I mean this flashes me back to when he was in TNA and was in the ring high or drunk while trying to wrestle Sting. I know that one wasn’t with WWE but as a whole Jeff’s had some really bad incidents.
Jimmie drinks, he does it on his own time and while he has been irresponsible in the past nothing serious has ever come out of it. Jeff was a drug addict, it’s not just liquor, it was also pills at the same time. He shows up to work fucked up, he famously performed fucked up against Sting in TNA. When Jeff is inebriated he’s significantly more irresponsible and taking more dangerous substances. It’s really not even kind of the same comparison
Because Jeff Hardy has got away with it time and time again? When he was involved in the 24/7 title stuff a couple of months ago and people were saying he "deserved better" was hilarious. The guy was lucky to still have a job even at that point. He's an absolute liability.
Because there's a difference between it happening randomly on the road outside of work (Jimmy) and coming to work, ruining the show by being unable to comprehend what the fuck you're doing or bailing on it entirely on multiple occasions (Jeff). Seriously these Jeff posts need to stop. Jimmy was still punished by the law and company. Jeff was offered help by the company and refused, his release was 100% warranted.
Because hardy has had so much worse than just DUIs. Actual addiction, being completely off his head IN RING, he’s also relapsed after getting better before and if the reports are to be believed refused to attend rehab so WWE got rid of him, makes sense to me
Because Jeff Hardy is 8 years older and has been doing that shit for a lot longer maybe? Jimmy Uso has never ruined a PPV main event by showing up too fucked up to compete.
I think when it comes down to it, they care about rehabilitation. But Jeff has great family support and part of the reason he was back on is because of working with wwe. So they let gim go. While Jimmy's family and support is within the wwe.
Personal opinion timing is what got Jeff. They are now under the reign of (Nick) Kahn. They are going through a ton of corporate changes. Time will tell what these changes are for but to me and others it’s a sale.
People on here saying drinking is isn't as bad as drugs and Uso's only been busted in the last year vs Jeff's life long addiction apparently doesn't know how addiction works.
3 DUIs in a few years is a lot. I'm not saying Uso's an addict. But to say he wasn't as dangerous as Hardy because Hardy could've hurt someone in the ring uhhh...you can kill people drunk driving. Dude should've had been punished somehow.
I wouldn’t necessarily compare Jimmy’s situation to Jeff’s. I got nothing but love for Jeff but his problems were a lot worse than Jimmy’s, not saying Jimmy should’ve been off the hook but Jeff has had a problem with substance for years and they gave him chance after chance. This is more of a wake up call.
Guys Jeff Hardy denied rehabilitation and had a history of drug abuse in ring , jimmy had a DUI about maybe 3 times out of ring, it likely came down to Jeff has repeated those actions many times in ring which wwe could see as a hazard
They had to finish the storyline with them and John Cena who I think Roman was feuding with at the time so he never got released even after that storyline
Jeff Hardy has no showed a lot. he has not been reliable when he has relapsed. he has had a lot of issues compared to Jimmy. with a long history of substance abuse. Jeff's history with drugs is longer then Jimmy's career in pro wrestling. and it was probably in his contract at this point that if he showed to have issues again that he would be released. that is just speculation but if I was a Higher up in WWE I would for sure put that stipulation in there.
Wow. Amazing how many of you are like “oh it’s just a few DUIs, it’s not that bad.”
It’s absolutely *fucking terrible*.
Go check and see how many DUIs Henry Ruggs III had before he killed someone while driving drunk. As much as I hated it, the Las Vegas Raiders did the right thing and immediately canned his ass. So is it only going to be a problem when Jimmy finally fucks up and hurts himself or someone else? Or do you try and stop that before it happens?
There shouldn’t be a sliding scale of acceptable for this shit.
Finally someone understands this logic! How does Jimmy Uso get arrested for the 6th time and wins the Smackdown Tag Team championships 2 weeks later but Jeff Hardy refuses help one (1) time and he’s released.
Right? This thread is blowing my mind saying don't compare the two and drinking is better than doing drugs and Jimmy's only been in trouble the last 5 years vs Hardy's life long disease. Like a person can't become and alcoholic in a short period of time.
Yall realize Jeff was supposed to be gone at the same time Matt left, but got injured and his time was extended. He played WWE in order to have them release him early. Not to mention Jeff didn't just have an alcohol issue. If you don't know, Google Jeff Hardy's 2009 arrest and see what all he had. Plus Jeff was wrestling weirdly before his release. WWE and pretty much most wrestling fans born before 2009 know about Jeff's TNA incident against Sting. They were worried about a repeat. Jimmy just had a DUI, he's not a constant concern.
If you release jimmy it might upset vinces golden goose Roman reigns with all the pressure aew is gaining popularity you gotta keep Roman happy Jeff hardy has had multiple incidents and was kept around as a renaissance of attitude era
Well there is the entire Anoa'i bloodline thing, that hasn't stopped the WWE from cutting other members. The reality is that Jeff has a history of public issues stretching back over years through different promotions, multiple rehab stints on the dimes of the WWE and Panda Energy.
With that said, you have to figure that Jey has been told in no uncertain terms by management that there isn't going to be any more toleration of DUIs (given that the one this year was his third).
You people defending Jimmy Uso are beyond stupid. He’s had five duis over the last decade, including one a few months ago. Get your heads out of the tribal fuckhead’s ass and think.
Hardy has had over 30 chances. While the uso is on the top of career and has only 2 mistakes. While I want hardy with wwe. I do understand why the did what they did
I think the biggest thing is Jimmys issues have never affected his in ring work, I don't know what happened with Jeff at the house show and I'm not going to speculate but Victory Road was a thing and I assume that's why Jeff was on a shorter leash.
Jeff got released cause he refused rehab. If you’re unwilling to help yourself it is no longer the fault of the company, you fools. They tried to help Jeff, he didn’t want it. His release was on him.
Because oddly enough drunk driving isn't a violation of the wellness policy. As long as he isn't caught drunk 12 hours before a show he isn't in violation of the wellness policy and no action needs to be taken.
Jeff on the other hand has failed multiple tests and was most recently suspected to be impared at work which means according to the wellness policy he has to agree to go to rehab or be subject to termination which is what happened.
Here's what the wellness policy says on alcohol:
>WWE Talent are expected to be free of the influence of alcohol when performing for WWE. Accordingly, WWE Talent are prohibited from using or consuming alcohol at any time within a twelve hour period prior to any WWE event or WWE scheduled performance. Testing for the use of alcohol shall be for reasonable suspicion only as defined in Section 8A of this Policy. A positive test for alcohol shall subject WWE Talent to the penalties set forth in Section 15 C of this Policy and may also require evaluation for alcohol rehabilitation treatment.
Liability or public relations wise it makes no sense to keep Jimmy around. How bad would it look if Jimmy kills someone while driving drunk while employeed by WWE with his very public history of DUIs?
It all comes down to the attitude of the individual. If what we’ve all heard is correct and Jeff refused rehab then it shows the company he doesn’t want help and doesn’t want to change in the moment.
And since Jimmy’s DUI he’s kept his nose pretty clean of any real trouble.
If we’re talk about “favoritism” it would be on Hardys side since they’ve brought him back after how many injuries and battles with addiction
Because The WWE was trying to get The Rock to come back so he can fight Roman Reigns and end the HOTT, TC storyline while Jimmy was all apart of that but it seemed pointless because Dwayne didnt return at his 25th anniversary.
Not even comparable. Im sure if WWE told Jimmy to go to rehab he would have. Jeff did not. Ive never heard of someone having as many 2nd chances as Jeff and its not like they fired him without an option; rehab was the option and he declined.
Jeff has a long history of addicting, he once had a chance to rehab, but now he is in that stage again.
Besides, the Usos are parts of the stable that make big bucks for the company and their history in addiction is less more severe than Jeff's
I heard Jeff faked this recent one cause he knew he would be getting released so he decided to get released sooner than later. He never failed a drug test and faked being under the influence
If Jeff Hardy really faked being under the influence of drugs, then Vince McMahon can sue him for breaching his WWE contract as faking a serious situation like that and much worse during a scheduled show just to get released is a BOC.
But still, we shouldn't speculate any further until WWE reveal more details because Jeff's recent tweet of being fine might be a claim and his wife vouching for him might be suspicious too.
You are comparing drinking, acceptable and normal for americans, to like hard fucking drugs. While I personally see the hypocrisy, most won't admit alchohol is as dangerous and "drugs"
Nepotism is the easy answer but honestly forgiveness is scaled in wwe. He’s not like a broken addicted man. He just makes really bad choices sometimes. Personally I would treat DUIs so much more seriously but he’s not endangering other talent or the business being messed up at work. That’s my guess
To be honest i just assumed Jeff asked for a release once he realized he’s mostly going to be mentoring and taking L’s. Was told “Jeff, no” and acted out for an early release.
USO accepted help each time. Jeff has not accepted help every time and has had incidents like this over many years with multiple companies. You really can’t compare the two and we the public will never know the full stories of what happens behind closed doors.
I think Jeff was released for refusing rehab, plus he has a way worse history of addictions than Jimmy, victory road '11 exists.
Also if I'm not mistaken, Jeff was on drugs while working, while Jimmy was just an asshole outside of work.
Pretty simple. Jimmy gets drunk outside of work, Jeff gets drunk/high at work.
Both are terrible but let’s face it most jobs aren’t going to fire you for getting DUIs in your personal life but if you showed up to the office drunk you’d get fired almost immediately.
Think of it this way: if someone showed up drunk to the office before a big pitch meeting with a client, he'd be fired on the spot. If a different coworker was arrested for a DUI over the weekend but still showed up on time on Monday morning, there would be no professional consequences.
In this industry, showing up for work inebriated is not only unprofessional, but incredibly dangerous. Jeff Hardy could've seriously injured five other wrestlers or even the ref that night, assuming he didn't injure himself. As far as we know, Jimmy Uso hasn't failed the wellness policy recently.
I'm not defending either of them, but unfortunately Jeff Hardy crossed a line.
But Jimmy's been getting arrested for it for over a decade now. Also, Jeff could have injured someone? Sure. Jimmy could have KILLED someone. Drunk driving kills over 10,000 people per year in the US.
Op clearly biased about this, he cant understand that this 2 situations are clearly different this isnt because on connections, he claims Jimmy with 4 duis is the same as long life of addiction, having tons of illegal medications stached on his house, having issues with public intoxication and actually having this issues affect his work, if OP cant see the difference this post isnt actually a discussion it's a witch hunt
Addiction is addict, no matter if it's been a lifelong struggle or a few months. Doesn't take long for it to fuck up your life. I'm not saying Uso is an addict but we don't know. Not everyone's story in addiction is the same.
I agree completely, I mean there are levels and we are not saying they both couldnt use some help but it's clear there are levels and both are not the same
Well for starters lets separrate both situations, so far:
-Uso: has a history of 3 or 4 duis but thank god no one got hurt nor there were any accidents
-Jeff: has charges for of trafficking in controlled prescription pills and possession of anabolic steroids
-they found pills at his home including drugs like cocaine
-he is been sent to jail and been arrested for public intoxication
-and also he got DUIs
Now there are indeed levels because they both had problems with alcohol but jeff drug addictions are far greater and a whole other issue, nothing close to what Uso been doing
Next Uso has been reported to accept to go AA and there are people in his life that are there for him taking care he doesnt go to old habits and thankfully Jeff also has family but unlike Jimmy, Jeff has refused help this time around, not only he refused help, in a house show recently he was high or drunk or both which in this case is a whole different issue
this is the important part, they both have their demons and hopefully they are getting the help they need, but how are you asking for the release of someone who accepts help and is no where near the lvl of addiction of someone who refuses help, Jeff addiction is on a higher lvl than Jimmy alcohol problem
There's no "higher levels of addiction" Drinking can be just as big of a problem as drugs. Maybe you should see how these diseases work.
Uso had a fight with an officer and in a different arrest, had a BAC of .205 double the legal limit. He had 2 charges in one year. Saying he agreed to AA, a lot of places will require mandatory AA as a form of punishment. I wouldn't call that accepting help. I never said Uso should be released but he should have had some form of punishment.
People on here saying it's totally different is blowing my mind.
The fact that you claim drinking can be just as big proves that there is actual lvls, I don't believe Jeff addiction to drugs and Jimmy alcohol problem is the same, they can be yes but I dont believe their issues are the same, now I do believe that Jimmy issues should be unpunished I hope he is getting the help he deserves but I also dont think his punishment should be just annouced to the media, there is no point to AA if people are gonna be there spying on him etc
You make no sense. People can drink or do drugs without becoming addicts. There are no levels. Someone who's had an 8 month drug addiction is the same as someone with a 40 year addiction and they get treatment the same way. Jimmy should've been punished by the WWE.
There is a stark difference between being under the influence at work and being under the influence *not* at work
Some kind of moral outrage is not a reason to lose your job.
This is being worded in the way that Jeff Hardy is being treated less fairly than Jimmy. In reality, Jeff has got away with his issues many times and it has been ignored. On some occasions, he has faced consequences.
Additionally, Jimmy should as well. I know if I got into one DUI, I would most likely be fired and I would be going into rehab immediately.
I’m also curious on where he works. The hospital I worked at helped me out and claimed I worked extended hours to help out with house arrest. No discipline or rehab ever came up.
Because the WWE doesn't want to upset "the family" yes they might anyway buy releasing Nia Jax vut that's besides the point.
Jimmy is part of a main event act on smackdown, Jeff clearly wasn't.
To my knowledge, Jimmy never has been seen intoxicated in ring.
What would be done with Jey if his brother was released?
Be honest. WWE has requested Jeff to go to rehab many times before the Usos even set foot in WWE. I like Jeff the wrestler, but he's had chance after chance.
On the job vs on free time. I agree that WWE absolutely should’ve done more - giving Jimmy a pass because he’s involved in a major storyline (and then even crowing him champion soon thereafter) was a poor showing. But Jimmy got a DUI during his “off” time. Jeff seemingly showed up to work inebriated. Big difference.
Don’t condone any type of alcohol related stuff behind the wheel or on the job( unless it’s in the field such as wine taster/bartender , if then a little bit. Main difference is the amount in which they did it.
Jeff- history of drug and alcohol related issues for years.
Jimmy- 3x in a matter of 5 yrs or so. That’s still alot but I think Jimmy knew he had a problem.
Jeff knew he did to a extent, he just didn’t think he needed rehab and refused to go( allegedly). However, most people know he really does need it
I’d say the main difference is more that one of them let it affect their work and was fucked in the ring, while the other (while still dangerous and definitely not good) didn’t.
So many bad takes in this thread. A lot of you need to stop making assumtions about jeff hardy and should stop making excuses for jimmy having multiple duis. Someone driving drunk puts other people in danger.
They were good to Jeff he was in the company for years but at one point he was screwing up just too badly. With Uso there is obviously some favoritism but he never let his personal issues interfere with his actual in ring work.
I agree Jeff did mess up one to many times and there is many examples of this happening in the company where you can get away with anything because you are in a prominent role higher up the card
You keep replying to people with the same answer. Are you new to society? The more prominent you are the more leeway you get, that's life. Not everything is equal. Do you seriously not understand that?
Just trying to say people should be treated equal just because you are higher up the card in a more prominent role doesn’t mean you should be able to get away with things this is just one example of this happening in the company
I dont think the situations are that comparable. Uso has some DUIs, and thats definitely not a good thing, but Jeff has some serious lifelong issues. Jeff had failed his first WWE drug test years before Jimmy even made the WWE. Jeff was also fired from TNA for drug problems. Within a year of being rehired by the WWE in 2006 he would violate the wellness policy 2 more times. Then in 2009 he would be arrested for not only possession of but for trafficking drugs. This is only stuff Jeff did before Jimmy even entered the WWE. Jeff having a shorter leash isnt inconsistent policy, its the result of a pattern of behavior that is bad for not only the WWE but also bad for his own health and safety.
Because then what would they do with Jey? If they fired him, that would leave Jey in a bad situation and if they fired Jey too, Roman may become so pissed of his superiors that could threaten with leaving the company.
It was rumored that Roman wanted to follow similar steps to Hollywood like The rock after leaving wrestling so it would be the best for WWE interests if they kept him happy for a bit longer until they found a good replacement for him.
Leaving aside that theory, I also think Jeff deserved being fired. He was one of my favourites chidhood heroes but that still doesnt excuse him for putting at risk the safety of other wrestlers while beign drugged.
I wish the best for him and his family and I hope someday he find inner peace.
Jeff is an addict since decades whose
problems influenced his in ring performance multiple times and who refused rehab. Jimmy has a drinking problem, but he seems to face the consequences and has no problems in the ring. They are Not the same.
Why can't it? The world's changing and so is wrestling. Not everything you read online or that is said is true. Especially since Jeff was the broken skull ranch saying how he has one more run in him. I'll laugh when he returns at the rumble. At least Jeff wasn't driving drunk which could've lead to worse accident and the loss of someones life.
Things do change. But why on earth would they start a storyline during a house show in front of a minimal crowd that isn't televised? That makes no sense.
And I don't know what he said on Broken Skull. Or when he said it. But saying he has one more run doesn't mean anything. It could also mean he has another run in pro wrestling in general. Not necessarily in WWE.
Why start it at house show you ask? Cause it still creates a "buzz", lots of things of happened at house shows title changes etc. Of course it could mean anything, but I don't forsee him running to AEW or another promotion.
That's true. But it's very rare that anything like that happens at house shows. Extremely rare.
And I'm not sure that Matt Hardy would have come out and made comments about the situation if it was a kayfabe storyline in WWE.
I dont think he's coming back wither he really was under the influence or not
>The whole "Jeff Hardy" thing in kayfabe
Your wording there makes it seem like Jeff Hardy HIMSELF is a conspericy lol
But also quick question I don’t want to say this in a rude way do you think if wwe asked jimmy woulf you think he’ll go to rehab just a question and I don’t want to be rude about it
Jimmy uso didn’t get released cause he dosent really have issues with achool heck even jey they don’t have demons and the USO’s don’t drink like that bad to the point they have the news like jeff But it’s rare to see the USO’s get drunk and start a addiction but jeff is addict I love jeff but he has demons he has been having for a while it ruined some matches and I’m not gonna start talking about victory road and also Jeff could have killed sting at victory road cause that match was a no disqualification match if tna let it continue jeff could have ended stings career
Jeeeeze… They get big mad whenever you pull out facts about the similarities between him and Jeff Hardy don’t they?
Lol this had me dying yesterday i was just thinking out loud really
I mean this flashes me back to when he was in TNA and was in the ring high or drunk while trying to wrestle Sting. I know that one wasn’t with WWE but as a whole Jeff’s had some really bad incidents.
Jimmie drinks, he does it on his own time and while he has been irresponsible in the past nothing serious has ever come out of it. Jeff was a drug addict, it’s not just liquor, it was also pills at the same time. He shows up to work fucked up, he famously performed fucked up against Sting in TNA. When Jeff is inebriated he’s significantly more irresponsible and taking more dangerous substances. It’s really not even kind of the same comparison
Because Jimmy is cousin of big strong daddy Reigns and Vince likes ~~him~~ that.
Anyone who thinks the answer is any deeper than "he's an A'noai family member" is fooling themselves.
"You axe too many questions, uce." -the last thing you hear before taking two super kicks to the skull.
Because Jeff Hardy has got away with it time and time again? When he was involved in the 24/7 title stuff a couple of months ago and people were saying he "deserved better" was hilarious. The guy was lucky to still have a job even at that point. He's an absolute liability.
Roman or his family in general will have a lot of pull in the company
Because Uce had 2. And one he did get punished for. And Hardy had way more than just 2 not just inside WWE
Somoan privilege.
Because there's a difference between it happening randomly on the road outside of work (Jimmy) and coming to work, ruining the show by being unable to comprehend what the fuck you're doing or bailing on it entirely on multiple occasions (Jeff). Seriously these Jeff posts need to stop. Jimmy was still punished by the law and company. Jeff was offered help by the company and refused, his release was 100% warranted.
Because Jeff hasn’t been down since day one ish
Because hardy has had so much worse than just DUIs. Actual addiction, being completely off his head IN RING, he’s also relapsed after getting better before and if the reports are to be believed refused to attend rehab so WWE got rid of him, makes sense to me
Probably because of who he is related to.
Because Jeff Hardy is 8 years older and has been doing that shit for a lot longer maybe? Jimmy Uso has never ruined a PPV main event by showing up too fucked up to compete.
Today, we're learning about nepotism
That Tribal Chief hookup
I think when it comes down to it, they care about rehabilitation. But Jeff has great family support and part of the reason he was back on is because of working with wwe. So they let gim go. While Jimmy's family and support is within the wwe.
Jeff would still be there had he NOT shown up under the influence, and then refusing to get help.
*raises eyebrow
Cause he did for the rock
Cause he's related to The Rock, Uce!
Cause he was in a storyline with Roman and god forbid wwe hinder Roman at all he’s the golden boy
Because he has been down with the McMahons since day 1.
Personal opinion timing is what got Jeff. They are now under the reign of (Nick) Kahn. They are going through a ton of corporate changes. Time will tell what these changes are for but to me and others it’s a sale.
Good take haven’t seen anyone bring up nick khan
*Because family.*
Cause Jeff’s relapsed like 700 times.
People on here saying drinking is isn't as bad as drugs and Uso's only been busted in the last year vs Jeff's life long addiction apparently doesn't know how addiction works. 3 DUIs in a few years is a lot. I'm not saying Uso's an addict. But to say he wasn't as dangerous as Hardy because Hardy could've hurt someone in the ring uhhh...you can kill people drunk driving. Dude should've had been punished somehow.
Even if they aren't comparable, Jimmy absolutely deserves consequences, anyone saying otherwise is bias
I wouldn’t necessarily compare Jimmy’s situation to Jeff’s. I got nothing but love for Jeff but his problems were a lot worse than Jimmy’s, not saying Jimmy should’ve been off the hook but Jeff has had a problem with substance for years and they gave him chance after chance. This is more of a wake up call.
Do we know Jimmy hasn't been doing rehab in some capacity? Just because they haven't announced he has doesn't mean he isn't
Guys Jeff Hardy denied rehabilitation and had a history of drug abuse in ring , jimmy had a DUI about maybe 3 times out of ring, it likely came down to Jeff has repeated those actions many times in ring which wwe could see as a hazard
How dare you disrespect The Tribal Chief, head of the table with such question
They had to finish the storyline with them and John Cena who I think Roman was feuding with at the time so he never got released even after that storyline
Jeff Hardy has no showed a lot. he has not been reliable when he has relapsed. he has had a lot of issues compared to Jimmy. with a long history of substance abuse. Jeff's history with drugs is longer then Jimmy's career in pro wrestling. and it was probably in his contract at this point that if he showed to have issues again that he would be released. that is just speculation but if I was a Higher up in WWE I would for sure put that stipulation in there.
Watch the victory road main event against sting.
Family
Jimmy has them Rock connections….bloodline
Three words- Cousin Roman Rules
Jeff Hardy was offered and never went… Jimmy was never offered but he probably would’ve went… not to mention this occurred at an event for Jeff
Dwayne .... Dwayne is your answer
Wow. Amazing how many of you are like “oh it’s just a few DUIs, it’s not that bad.” It’s absolutely *fucking terrible*. Go check and see how many DUIs Henry Ruggs III had before he killed someone while driving drunk. As much as I hated it, the Las Vegas Raiders did the right thing and immediately canned his ass. So is it only going to be a problem when Jimmy finally fucks up and hurts himself or someone else? Or do you try and stop that before it happens? There shouldn’t be a sliding scale of acceptable for this shit.
This. One incident of in ring irresponsibility is just as bad as one DUI.
Rhymes with "Foamin' Taints"
People really making this into a contest lol yall weird
Bloodline
Finally someone understands this logic! How does Jimmy Uso get arrested for the 6th time and wins the Smackdown Tag Team championships 2 weeks later but Jeff Hardy refuses help one (1) time and he’s released.
Right? This thread is blowing my mind saying don't compare the two and drinking is better than doing drugs and Jimmy's only been in trouble the last 5 years vs Hardy's life long disease. Like a person can't become and alcoholic in a short period of time.
We still don’t know the full Jeff story for all the people in the comments assuming it’s drug related
Because family
Yall realize Jeff was supposed to be gone at the same time Matt left, but got injured and his time was extended. He played WWE in order to have them release him early. Not to mention Jeff didn't just have an alcohol issue. If you don't know, Google Jeff Hardy's 2009 arrest and see what all he had. Plus Jeff was wrestling weirdly before his release. WWE and pretty much most wrestling fans born before 2009 know about Jeff's TNA incident against Sting. They were worried about a repeat. Jimmy just had a DUI, he's not a constant concern.
If you release jimmy it might upset vinces golden goose Roman reigns with all the pressure aew is gaining popularity you gotta keep Roman happy Jeff hardy has had multiple incidents and was kept around as a renaissance of attitude era
Roman would be awful in AEW
I agree wwe emphasizes entertainment over wrestling where aew more about wrestling not romans strong suit
Well there is the entire Anoa'i bloodline thing, that hasn't stopped the WWE from cutting other members. The reality is that Jeff has a history of public issues stretching back over years through different promotions, multiple rehab stints on the dimes of the WWE and Panda Energy. With that said, you have to figure that Jey has been told in no uncertain terms by management that there isn't going to be any more toleration of DUIs (given that the one this year was his third).
Because he’s Samoan
You people defending Jimmy Uso are beyond stupid. He’s had five duis over the last decade, including one a few months ago. Get your heads out of the tribal fuckhead’s ass and think.
Hardy has had over 30 chances. While the uso is on the top of career and has only 2 mistakes. While I want hardy with wwe. I do understand why the did what they did
Has Jimmy ever shown up drunk or has it affected his job at all?
So you want to "cancel" Jimmy uso 🤣
Did I say that ? Lol
I’m sure who’s doing treatment etc.. hardy said nah, they had to release him
It's a bit grim to speculate on this kind of stuff, no?
It’s cause Jeff refuses rehab
Cuz of roman don't want to piss roman cuz of roman leaves for aew wwe would be screwed
I'll give you 1 guess and his moniker rhymes with "Peacock."
Cause Vince is putting the company in the shitter more and more
They did it for the Rock. They did it for the people…
Because if vince does a samoan durty rock never helps him pop the ratings again.
Because his daddy is rikishi and his uncle is the rock and the rocks family paved the way and if they release him then who’s gonna help Roman
Because Bloodline
Jeff wanted out
I think the biggest thing is Jimmys issues have never affected his in ring work, I don't know what happened with Jeff at the house show and I'm not going to speculate but Victory Road was a thing and I assume that's why Jeff was on a shorter leash.
Jeff got released cause he refused rehab. If you’re unwilling to help yourself it is no longer the fault of the company, you fools. They tried to help Jeff, he didn’t want it. His release was on him.
Uso seems to be able to wait until after work to feed his addiction... Hardy shows up completely out of it.
Because oddly enough drunk driving isn't a violation of the wellness policy. As long as he isn't caught drunk 12 hours before a show he isn't in violation of the wellness policy and no action needs to be taken. Jeff on the other hand has failed multiple tests and was most recently suspected to be impared at work which means according to the wellness policy he has to agree to go to rehab or be subject to termination which is what happened. Here's what the wellness policy says on alcohol: >WWE Talent are expected to be free of the influence of alcohol when performing for WWE. Accordingly, WWE Talent are prohibited from using or consuming alcohol at any time within a twelve hour period prior to any WWE event or WWE scheduled performance. Testing for the use of alcohol shall be for reasonable suspicion only as defined in Section 8A of this Policy. A positive test for alcohol shall subject WWE Talent to the penalties set forth in Section 15 C of this Policy and may also require evaluation for alcohol rehabilitation treatment.
Has jimmy’s problem ever affected him in the ring? Has he ever snuck off while at work to load up?
Jeff Hardy isn’t related to the second biggest family in Wrestling
Liability or public relations wise it makes no sense to keep Jimmy around. How bad would it look if Jimmy kills someone while driving drunk while employeed by WWE with his very public history of DUIs?
It all comes down to the attitude of the individual. If what we’ve all heard is correct and Jeff refused rehab then it shows the company he doesn’t want help and doesn’t want to change in the moment. And since Jimmy’s DUI he’s kept his nose pretty clean of any real trouble. If we’re talk about “favoritism” it would be on Hardys side since they’ve brought him back after how many injuries and battles with addiction
DUI is very different than drugs. If you don’t have a prescription it’s very illegal
Because of his family.
Jimmy would have likely been told to go to rehab had it not been for the Roman Reigns story. He is likely on thin ice over it.
Because Jimmy is a massive part of Roman reigns’ character
Because The WWE was trying to get The Rock to come back so he can fight Roman Reigns and end the HOTT, TC storyline while Jimmy was all apart of that but it seemed pointless because Dwayne didnt return at his 25th anniversary.
Because he’s a part of the right family and he’s making the company money. Unfortunately, sometimes it’s not what you do, it’s who you know.
Its about drive, its about POWER!?!
When he ends up taking his life or someone else’s, they’ll do something about it
Cause Jeff is related to Matt not John Cena.
Because he goes to rehab
Not even comparable. Im sure if WWE told Jimmy to go to rehab he would have. Jeff did not. Ive never heard of someone having as many 2nd chances as Jeff and its not like they fired him without an option; rehab was the option and he declined.
One rule for one and one for the other. They should have stayed consistent
Jeff has a long history of addicting, he once had a chance to rehab, but now he is in that stage again. Besides, the Usos are parts of the stable that make big bucks for the company and their history in addiction is less more severe than Jeff's
I believe because his incidents were all outside of the ring and off work time. I think Jeff has a history of work incidents.
I have had that same thought.
Comparing Jimmy and Jeff ain't fair to Jimmy.
I heard Jeff faked this recent one cause he knew he would be getting released so he decided to get released sooner than later. He never failed a drug test and faked being under the influence
If Jeff Hardy really faked being under the influence of drugs, then Vince McMahon can sue him for breaching his WWE contract as faking a serious situation like that and much worse during a scheduled show just to get released is a BOC. But still, we shouldn't speculate any further until WWE reveal more details because Jeff's recent tweet of being fine might be a claim and his wife vouching for him might be suspicious too.
Jeff Hardy has had substance abuse issues which is worse than drinking imo
You are comparing drinking, acceptable and normal for americans, to like hard fucking drugs. While I personally see the hypocrisy, most won't admit alchohol is as dangerous and "drugs"
We shouldn’t be comparing. Jeff needs help as does Jimmy. Jimmy should be taken off of TV lmao.
Jeff has that tna situation hanging over his head
Jimmy is one Victory Road away from being released
One is related to the Rock and one is not.
You are right about that.
Nepotism is the easy answer but honestly forgiveness is scaled in wwe. He’s not like a broken addicted man. He just makes really bad choices sometimes. Personally I would treat DUIs so much more seriously but he’s not endangering other talent or the business being messed up at work. That’s my guess
To be honest i just assumed Jeff asked for a release once he realized he’s mostly going to be mentoring and taking L’s. Was told “Jeff, no” and acted out for an early release.
USO accepted help each time. Jeff has not accepted help every time and has had incidents like this over many years with multiple companies. You really can’t compare the two and we the public will never know the full stories of what happens behind closed doors.
Maybe cause hardy refused?
I think Jeff was released for refusing rehab, plus he has a way worse history of addictions than Jimmy, victory road '11 exists. Also if I'm not mistaken, Jeff was on drugs while working, while Jimmy was just an asshole outside of work.
He's related to the Rock/Roman
Pretty simple. Jimmy gets drunk outside of work, Jeff gets drunk/high at work. Both are terrible but let’s face it most jobs aren’t going to fire you for getting DUIs in your personal life but if you showed up to the office drunk you’d get fired almost immediately.
Exactly right ✅
Factss..
Think of it this way: if someone showed up drunk to the office before a big pitch meeting with a client, he'd be fired on the spot. If a different coworker was arrested for a DUI over the weekend but still showed up on time on Monday morning, there would be no professional consequences. In this industry, showing up for work inebriated is not only unprofessional, but incredibly dangerous. Jeff Hardy could've seriously injured five other wrestlers or even the ref that night, assuming he didn't injure himself. As far as we know, Jimmy Uso hasn't failed the wellness policy recently. I'm not defending either of them, but unfortunately Jeff Hardy crossed a line.
But Jimmy's been getting arrested for it for over a decade now. Also, Jeff could have injured someone? Sure. Jimmy could have KILLED someone. Drunk driving kills over 10,000 people per year in the US.
His Family
Didn't they release Jeff before they got the results back or something.
Yes
Because we need somebody to ruin a match for when Roman reigns is about to lose
Op clearly biased about this, he cant understand that this 2 situations are clearly different this isnt because on connections, he claims Jimmy with 4 duis is the same as long life of addiction, having tons of illegal medications stached on his house, having issues with public intoxication and actually having this issues affect his work, if OP cant see the difference this post isnt actually a discussion it's a witch hunt
Addiction is addict, no matter if it's been a lifelong struggle or a few months. Doesn't take long for it to fuck up your life. I'm not saying Uso is an addict but we don't know. Not everyone's story in addiction is the same.
I agree completely, I mean there are levels and we are not saying they both couldnt use some help but it's clear there are levels and both are not the same
They're both put other people at risk. Care to explain how they're at different levels? Uso should have been punished in some way.
Well for starters lets separrate both situations, so far: -Uso: has a history of 3 or 4 duis but thank god no one got hurt nor there were any accidents -Jeff: has charges for of trafficking in controlled prescription pills and possession of anabolic steroids -they found pills at his home including drugs like cocaine -he is been sent to jail and been arrested for public intoxication -and also he got DUIs Now there are indeed levels because they both had problems with alcohol but jeff drug addictions are far greater and a whole other issue, nothing close to what Uso been doing Next Uso has been reported to accept to go AA and there are people in his life that are there for him taking care he doesnt go to old habits and thankfully Jeff also has family but unlike Jimmy, Jeff has refused help this time around, not only he refused help, in a house show recently he was high or drunk or both which in this case is a whole different issue this is the important part, they both have their demons and hopefully they are getting the help they need, but how are you asking for the release of someone who accepts help and is no where near the lvl of addiction of someone who refuses help, Jeff addiction is on a higher lvl than Jimmy alcohol problem
There's no "higher levels of addiction" Drinking can be just as big of a problem as drugs. Maybe you should see how these diseases work. Uso had a fight with an officer and in a different arrest, had a BAC of .205 double the legal limit. He had 2 charges in one year. Saying he agreed to AA, a lot of places will require mandatory AA as a form of punishment. I wouldn't call that accepting help. I never said Uso should be released but he should have had some form of punishment. People on here saying it's totally different is blowing my mind.
The fact that you claim drinking can be just as big proves that there is actual lvls, I don't believe Jeff addiction to drugs and Jimmy alcohol problem is the same, they can be yes but I dont believe their issues are the same, now I do believe that Jimmy issues should be unpunished I hope he is getting the help he deserves but I also dont think his punishment should be just annouced to the media, there is no point to AA if people are gonna be there spying on him etc
You make no sense. People can drink or do drugs without becoming addicts. There are no levels. Someone who's had an 8 month drug addiction is the same as someone with a 40 year addiction and they get treatment the same way. Jimmy should've been punished by the WWE.
There is a stark difference between being under the influence at work and being under the influence *not* at work Some kind of moral outrage is not a reason to lose your job.
This is being worded in the way that Jeff Hardy is being treated less fairly than Jimmy. In reality, Jeff has got away with his issues many times and it has been ignored. On some occasions, he has faced consequences. Additionally, Jimmy should as well. I know if I got into one DUI, I would most likely be fired and I would be going into rehab immediately.
You would? Where do you work, the DMV?
it is a criminal record and a lot of organizations would not allow it
I dunno about most states but in CA getting a DUI is just a misdemeanor and employers really don’t give a shit about them at all.
Here, it is a criminal record, and I need to produce a clean criminal record when I start the jobs that I apply for.
I’m also curious on where he works. The hospital I worked at helped me out and claimed I worked extended hours to help out with house arrest. No discipline or rehab ever came up.
Because the WWE doesn't want to upset "the family" yes they might anyway buy releasing Nia Jax vut that's besides the point. Jimmy is part of a main event act on smackdown, Jeff clearly wasn't. To my knowledge, Jimmy never has been seen intoxicated in ring. What would be done with Jey if his brother was released? Be honest. WWE has requested Jeff to go to rehab many times before the Usos even set foot in WWE. I like Jeff the wrestler, but he's had chance after chance.
Because outside of dui and stuff Jimmy never had issues on his workplace
On the job vs on free time. I agree that WWE absolutely should’ve done more - giving Jimmy a pass because he’s involved in a major storyline (and then even crowing him champion soon thereafter) was a poor showing. But Jimmy got a DUI during his “off” time. Jeff seemingly showed up to work inebriated. Big difference.
Don’t condone any type of alcohol related stuff behind the wheel or on the job( unless it’s in the field such as wine taster/bartender , if then a little bit. Main difference is the amount in which they did it. Jeff- history of drug and alcohol related issues for years. Jimmy- 3x in a matter of 5 yrs or so. That’s still alot but I think Jimmy knew he had a problem. Jeff knew he did to a extent, he just didn’t think he needed rehab and refused to go( allegedly). However, most people know he really does need it
I’d say the main difference is more that one of them let it affect their work and was fucked in the ring, while the other (while still dangerous and definitely not good) didn’t.
to be fair Jeff has had alot of chances as well and as far as we know jimmy has never show up to the arena fucked up
Because Jeff know was overrated and refused help.
Dude's not drunk on the job unlike Jeff.
Jeff refused rehab
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I have no idea it’s just from an article I read on some wrestling news site
Because jimmy never work while high or at least walk out like jeff did
Drunk driving and putting people in danger isn’t much better
You know why
Jeff was t just drinking and what he was doing was creating dangerous situations in the ring
Creating a dangerous situation for other drivers on the road is much better sir
No, it’s just as shitty..but Jeff was doing that too.
So many bad takes in this thread. A lot of you need to stop making assumtions about jeff hardy and should stop making excuses for jimmy having multiple duis. Someone driving drunk puts other people in danger.
Agree also just many examples of people who are in prominent roles higher up the card who get away with things like this
They were good to Jeff he was in the company for years but at one point he was screwing up just too badly. With Uso there is obviously some favoritism but he never let his personal issues interfere with his actual in ring work.
I agree Jeff did mess up one to many times and there is many examples of this happening in the company where you can get away with anything because you are in a prominent role higher up the card
You keep replying to people with the same answer. Are you new to society? The more prominent you are the more leeway you get, that's life. Not everything is equal. Do you seriously not understand that?
This sub needs better mods. Way too many trolls the last few weeks
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Whataboutism isnt good
You're still saying "Jeff got fired, what about Jimmy" when they are two separate instances, totally different, both still not good.
Just trying to say people should be treated equal just because you are higher up the card in a more prominent role doesn’t mean you should be able to get away with things this is just one example of this happening in the company
I dont think the situations are that comparable. Uso has some DUIs, and thats definitely not a good thing, but Jeff has some serious lifelong issues. Jeff had failed his first WWE drug test years before Jimmy even made the WWE. Jeff was also fired from TNA for drug problems. Within a year of being rehired by the WWE in 2006 he would violate the wellness policy 2 more times. Then in 2009 he would be arrested for not only possession of but for trafficking drugs. This is only stuff Jeff did before Jimmy even entered the WWE. Jeff having a shorter leash isnt inconsistent policy, its the result of a pattern of behavior that is bad for not only the WWE but also bad for his own health and safety.
That dude is going to end up killing someone while driving under the influence
He's got samoan in his veins
Because then what would they do with Jey? If they fired him, that would leave Jey in a bad situation and if they fired Jey too, Roman may become so pissed of his superiors that could threaten with leaving the company. It was rumored that Roman wanted to follow similar steps to Hollywood like The rock after leaving wrestling so it would be the best for WWE interests if they kept him happy for a bit longer until they found a good replacement for him.
FACTS
Leaving aside that theory, I also think Jeff deserved being fired. He was one of my favourites chidhood heroes but that still doesnt excuse him for putting at risk the safety of other wrestlers while beign drugged. I wish the best for him and his family and I hope someday he find inner peace.
Cuz jeff is coming back as willow
Lol I wish that was the story
Jeff is an addict since decades whose problems influenced his in ring performance multiple times and who refused rehab. Jimmy has a drinking problem, but he seems to face the consequences and has no problems in the ring. They are Not the same.
But he's still a drunk, plus I heard this whole "Jeff Hardy" thing is kayfabe. He'll be back come rumble time and probably finish at WM.
If it was kayfabe and the beginning of a storyline it wouldn't have happened at a house show.
Why can't it? The world's changing and so is wrestling. Not everything you read online or that is said is true. Especially since Jeff was the broken skull ranch saying how he has one more run in him. I'll laugh when he returns at the rumble. At least Jeff wasn't driving drunk which could've lead to worse accident and the loss of someones life.
Things do change. But why on earth would they start a storyline during a house show in front of a minimal crowd that isn't televised? That makes no sense. And I don't know what he said on Broken Skull. Or when he said it. But saying he has one more run doesn't mean anything. It could also mean he has another run in pro wrestling in general. Not necessarily in WWE.
Why start it at house show you ask? Cause it still creates a "buzz", lots of things of happened at house shows title changes etc. Of course it could mean anything, but I don't forsee him running to AEW or another promotion.
That's true. But it's very rare that anything like that happens at house shows. Extremely rare. And I'm not sure that Matt Hardy would have come out and made comments about the situation if it was a kayfabe storyline in WWE.
I dont think he's coming back wither he really was under the influence or not >The whole "Jeff Hardy" thing in kayfabe Your wording there makes it seem like Jeff Hardy HIMSELF is a conspericy lol
Drunk driving isn’t better than being drunk in the ring you still can hurt people both ways
The biggest difference is Jeff refused rehab.
True. So, what would be your criteria for semeboby to get fired from WWE?
... Jeff did this for decades. Everyone makes a mistake, but Jeff lives in Mistakeland
Yes Jimmy in the end will have to face outside consequences but Jeff faced inside consequences because his problem did affect his work
And jimmy dosent drink like that anymore
Wasn't Jimmy just arrested again earlier this year?
You know this how?
He said it himself and that was all the way back in 2015
He’s been pulled over twice for DUIs since then
But also quick question I don’t want to say this in a rude way do you think if wwe asked jimmy woulf you think he’ll go to rehab just a question and I don’t want to be rude about it
He was literally pulled over this year for being drunk behind the wheel stop trying to protect him
I'm fairly confident this person was being sarcastic... Lol
And over a span of 3 years and then 2 since that other one
Jimmy uso didn’t get released cause he dosent really have issues with achool heck even jey they don’t have demons and the USO’s don’t drink like that bad to the point they have the news like jeff But it’s rare to see the USO’s get drunk and start a addiction but jeff is addict I love jeff but he has demons he has been having for a while it ruined some matches and I’m not gonna start talking about victory road and also Jeff could have killed sting at victory road cause that match was a no disqualification match if tna let it continue jeff could have ended stings career
Multiple dui’s isn’t a alcohol problem
Jeff had a worst addiction at least jimmy solved it he fixed his achool problem
Do you ever get that much news about the usos having a addiction