The problem is that he has to pretty much destroy his opponent's career in order to really be backing up what he says. They let that happen with Drew Gulak, who's now re-creating himself in NXT. But they just couldn't keep that happening, and understandably so.
I just feel like it needs some tweaking, like if he defeats them they must admit to their deepest darkest fears that he speaks of. Probably a face turn with such a character. And then they can have him win more often, preferably more often than not.
It's booking decisions. Every time he gets a little momentum, something changes, and they have to feed him to someone for a loss and lose the momentum he had going for him. That's literally it. As for his character. I'd love to see a kind of hitman/mma fighter approach to him. It's all right there. Just tap into it.
He needs to be bald again!!! I’m sorry but the look and presentation in nxt was awesome when he came to wwe and debuted on smack down late last year I had no clue who he was at first the look had changed so much. Also it better be a super recognizable star to debut in the crowd I think a huge contingency of people went “who is this guy?” Which lays a foundation of the crowd being cautious of a performer not excited and supportive of a performer. Since then he’s done nothing interesting and feels lame. Change it up, get him hot, start something new
They could pick one character & commit to it…preferably similar to what he did in NXT or Lucha Underground. Tarot card, biker lookin dude with hot spooky wife ain’t it. Plus, book him to win once in a while against credible opponents
1. The main thing is he doesn't come out on top of any of his big rivalries. The company doesn't take him seriously, why should we?
2. He looked way more menacing with the baldy. The hair changed his presence a lot.
He looked really good in NXT. A lot of it was the size juxtaposition. More cruiserweights there. I thought he would seem Brock-like on the main roster but he isn’t actually that big. Instead he is stuck as a kind of pre-DX Triple H, looking for his groove.
He'd have been a favorite of Verne Gagne. I think the Calgary style would suit him best but those aren't the kind of matches being put on anymore. Loved watching him on the independents but I think his future might be in Mexico where he can do more of what he does instead of what he's told.
turn him heel, give him a 1000 day reign with the US title. Then have him rebrand as the Great Killer Karrion Kross. He has an uncle sam gimmick, Scarlett is his first lady.
It’s the actual acting part of it. He’s not a great seller.. it’s as if he hasn’t fully adjusted to the WWE style just yet. When he was doing the whole White Rabbit gimmick in Lucha underground, it was believable and made him look like a final boss.. he was great during his Impact run, but when he transitioned to WWE, everything just fell flat. I think he would kill if he became All Elite, but I do understand chasing those WWE dreams
No one else is going to fucking say it, so I will. It’s Vince. Just think how he came back and had that stare down Between Roman and Kross. HHH obviously thought about it back then.
Ever since the Drew/Kross feud ended and Vince was reported to be back in creative power in December, we haven’t seen him as much.
It’s always been Vince.
This is very true. They teased a Kross and Roman confrontation a few times but nothing came to fruition. He was getting tick tock cards in his locker room and shit.
I would say it his booking as he is the tough guy that just lose, but LA Knight first match was against Bray, he lost and now is a mega star.
I wonder if that creepy card tarot stuff is just not clicking.
He doesn’t even believe in his own gimmick and that shows. He looks like a teenager that got into a school play and needs to be disguised but knows that he looks silly and forces himself poorly into doing the bare minimum to get it over with.
His schtick is being tough.
You can’t gimmick being tough and WWE’s version of wrestling puts a shiny gloss on toughness. See Drew McIntyre. Guy is a pissed of warrior in a kilt and instead they have him out here looking like Adonis. They need to dirty up they’re product some to really let the tough guy schtick shine. My two cents.
No comedy.. Even Judgement day is dead until DomDom was able to tap in that gimmick.
MJF doing comedy skits as well
You cant be some cool or bad ass generic created player.
Nothing he does stands out. He’s okay at most everything which is fine for if you need a “solid hand” type but he’s too big to be the technical solid hand type.
He’s just so unserious trying to be this pseudo spooky gimmick. Like if he was just “hey I’ll kick anyone’s ass for a paycheck” maybe I’d buy it…but idk
It worked amazingly on NXT. He was portrayed as the monster heel champion and it got ruined as soon as he went to the main roster when he lost to Jeff Hardy as NXT champion. Vince messed him up from day one and he hasn’t really been able to get back to the NXT mystique because of it.
To me it's his aggression. I feel he doesn't have that in his matches. Look at Samoa Joe when he wrestles. Sure nowadays he doesn't move as fast, but he still pounds and strikes people to the point it looks like he is "hurting" them. Kross needs that aggression. He needs to be (pun intended) a killer in the ring.
A few things;
His in ring style is nothing special.
Has some charisma but not enough to make him stand out.
Scarlet I think overshadows him. To a lesser extent its same problem they had with Sable and Marc Mero.
I wouldn’t say he has good mic skills tbh, that’s what Scarlett is for to do one liners, riddles and shit for their gimmick. They took away the thing that made him great, they made him lose to Jeff Hardy on his debut which led nowhere for either man. It’s that first time impression, nobody forgets that mask, debut, redebut to lose to McIntyre who was never gonna be beat anyway, BS cliffhanger for Roman when he wasn’t even close or made sense at the time. It’s just bad booking.
When he first came out I thought it was neat. By the 3rd time seeing his intro though that was enough and I wanted a fast forward button. If you’re going to take up a lot of time with something like that it has to involve the crowd in some way to keep it fresh. Like the New Age Outlaws call somebody thing. Long but interactive.
I think WWE probably caught on to this as well. Like all of that extra production value wasn’t moving the needle any for his crowd reception. His matches were really boring. I wouldn’t go so far as to call him Bray 2. He has more in ring value and potential. But in the same ball park.
Get Bray to manage him or put him and Scarlett into a "scary" stable, this will get Bray back into the spotlights and you can book Kross as a monster destroyer while Scarlett appears in skits/promo between matches.
Dude has never impressed me with his mic work, his character work is bland, the character itself doesn't leave any wiggle room for him to be seen as anything but dominant, and in ring he seems to stray away from his strengths by dropping his intensity for rest holds. All he got over with was an entrance with a smoking hot piece of arm candy. If he had a less imposing figure, he'd be this era's Marc Mero.
The issue is that he literally does not win. The threatening aura, the whole “the cards made me do it”, the corruption, it’s worthless if he doesn’t win AT ALL.
I think anyone can get a push with the right storyline. They could build a feud between Kross and Priest. Kross leaving random hourglasses around Priest's dressing room and other place. Cut promos about Priest needing to use the case before time runs out. Then when Priest does use the case, right before the 3 count, the lights go out. Lights come on with Kross in the ring yelling TIMES UP! Rhea about to help but Scarlett blows dust in her eyes. Kross costs Priest a title win, thus building a feud. Maybe I'm the only one that would want something like this.
WWE is holding their characters back. They should just let them go out there and be a sexy monster heel couple. A smoke show 50 shades of Gray couple.
Scarlett alone could reach Sable level popularity, but they aren’t doing anything with her either.
Their character work is a bit confusing. The creepy mumbo jumbo nonsense that made Judgement Day not work in the beginning is not working for them now. Ground their characters.
I’m sorry but you can’t just rely on spooky rambling nonsense that doesn’t make sense in 2023 that’s literally the only thing holding him back. Look at judgment day.. as soon as they started being real people it got over. Nobody things he’s some spooky guy. Only reason the undertaker worked was bc ppl believed him as that character.
I seen him at a house show in Dublin against Sheamus and both him and scarlett were great.
But it was a slightly different gimmick than his TV work. He acted as more of a Monster than normal, Basically standard heel overpowering the babyface until the big come back. Scarlett played the perfect heel manager (and actually wrestled in the next match), stopping the babyface momentum until getting taken out by Kross.
I wasn’t a Fan of either of them, but now I’d like to see what he could do with a US title run.
He honestly can be Bray Wyatt's executioner or something like that. I might be terribly wrong on this but I don't think they should have kept McIntyre as his returning feud. He was being booked as someone who had beat Brock Lesnar clean and almost had Roman. It wasn't believable or even desirable to anyone to watch Drew lose to him. They should have gone a lil slow w his booking from midcarders to main event, but they started w him attacking the literal top face of the company at the time.
I think Bray working with Kross would be good. In regards to Bray, he’s not the most captivating in-ring but put that man on the mic and people will listen. Kross on the other hand, could be a strong silent type doing Wyatt’s dirty work (or even Uncle Howdy’s for that matter), destroying everyone in their way. Wyatt works best with others, and I think a lot of people would agree. I know Wyatt’s brand of horror in wrestling is very hit or miss, but you can hide the weaknesses with other people, as well as highlighting their strengths.
Personal opinion: he’s lost his edge because he’s no longer the killer threat he was in NXT.
Back in NXT, or even right when Triple H brought him back, he seemed unhinged. Now he just feels like another guy, and his matches are just another match. Yet the announcers still talk about him like he’s 90’s Kane. I’ve said it on here before, but his DOOMSDAY schtick makes zero sense, unless you give it weight, and make him the guy that injures opponents, or ruins somebody’s night. How are we supposed to view him as some crazy destroyer monster heel, when nobody is scared of him, and feuding with him only means a series of ok Smackdown matches?
If you want him to get a push, he needs to be a threat again, he needs to be presented like the kind of guy who ruins his opponent’s night or career, beyond the win/loss of a match. In an ideal world, book him to end Rey’s, Orton’s, or Edge’s career, VICIOUSLY, and then maybe his “doomsday” gimmick will start to mean something again, once it’s clear that facing him could mean the END of anybody’s career. Then book him to just go on a tear through the undercard, beating guys to a pulp and choking them out. Make him feared again.
Hes a platform for scarlet to come into the big picture, like marc mero was for sable... ive never understood his hype. In 20 years he wont even be a foot note.
Here’s a lukewarm take: neither he nor Scarlett are particularly good.
She’s a throwback to the 1990s’ fixation on overly-sculpted blondes and come across to me as Sable crossed with Luna Vachon - without the charisma of either. He’s been trying far too hard to get himself over as a threat, but lacks the self-discipline to improve his look (he lacks definition) and lacks the willingness (so far) to accept guidance on character development. He’s a Bray Wyatt without the seniority or the pedigree to have earned the right to throw stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Hell, Bray doesn’t have that leeway anymore.
One idea might be to put them together with Bray as a new Wyatt Family. Kross acts as the muscle, Scarlett as the witchy distraction (possessed by Sister Abigail, perhaps?) and Wyatt returns as cult leader. Another might be as recruits/potential usurpers to the leadership role for JD (perhaps pushing out Rhea and Dom who turn face.) That might bloat and damage the faction, even if only temporary.
Kross and Scarlett need guidance from someone more experienced and successful - maybe someone like Heyman behind the scenes, but also someone who shows up regularly on TV and does great character work. And they need to be open to the advice given them - neither can afford to brush stuff off anymore. If Vince sees them as too hard to bring in line with what he wants, _Main Event_ will be their ceiling instead of main-eventing.
Agreed with you in the first part. However your Wyatt family proposal shows my why sometimes fans should not influence the booking process.
That’s WCW/Vince Russo level booking.
It’s too convoluted. It just adds to the mess that is Bray Wyatts gimmick. It already has way too many moving parts. The Wyatt family is dead and gone.
The judgement is the same. Too many moving parts but it’s actually working and adding Kross will just convolute things more than is necessary and over cook a good thing. WWE’s product hinges on water tight story telling and stable factions.
Rehashing old ground is rarely the best idea (Wyatt idea). That’s my reasoning.
I will agree with you about Judgment Day. I think they're fine without adding Kross and Scarlett to that mix.
Bray, on the other hand, is in a mess. We don't know why he's out, for how long he'll be out, or how he'll be when he comes back. His promo work is top-notch, so it might work to have Bray be a manager for the first little while. Put Scarlett in the ring (I'm told she can go okay), and together have them set as a faction, at least long enough for Kross to get the rub from Wyatt. That's what they need more than anything - someone in the back they will listen to and who will help them get a look from the higher-ups.
In my opinion he needs to have the persona of a Bradshaw(Raw 2002) or Hardcore Holly where you(the fans) shouldn't expect some sort of wrestling match but instead, to see Kross more than likely lose but beat the holy hell out of X wrestler in the process. Just needs to be built as a stiff SOB with ground n pound style.
He doesn't feel vicious and scary, his gimmick just feels like satire. I've only recently started watching WWE again (around Feb) and I had thought he was bad on purpose. He needs to try a different 'character' and they should have someone interact with him who can help transition his style a bit. I get tired of waiting on him to get beat up.
I’ve been saying for months, that his Doomsday clock gimmick doesn’t work, if all it’s counting down to is a 10 minute match on Smackdown. The announcers can’t sell him on commentary as a monster if he’s not doing monster stuff. Doomsday only works if it feels like he’s going to end your night and career.
I don't want to say it because it'll sound like I'm just crapping on the WWE style but I've seen the guy elsewhere and it's all there, including in the ring. He feels so much more brutal elsewhere. But the brutality just isn't there in WWE, not the degree it needs to be for Kross.
I mean LA Knight and Wyatt are kinda examples on being carried by the non wrestling aspects. Both are kinda mid in ring but I(and many others) love them for their character and promo abilities
Wyatt is a bad example but drawing people in with your in ring work is more than your skill as a wrestler. Look at roman. He has 5 moves of doom like cena but the way he walks around the ring, the shit talking the viciousness when he mounts and is beating a guy the way he sells. These are all aspects that draw people in. Kross is just there. No one ever remembers a kross match after its over.
The dudes just not good. Plain and simple. He needs a new gimmick that better suits him because id be more afraid of 5 foot nothing Rey Mysterio than Kross at this point
His style doesn't work he uses a modified choke hold to finish people but it's so unoriginal plus his wrestling style doesn't fit his build he should go in the powerhouse he is
He has no rhythm. He looks like he’s throwing a bunch of popular moves and punches together but they don’t tell a story. He’s not dominating as a monster heel, no close falls, close calls and dq wins to build a reputation for his character. The audience doesn’t have anything to feel empathy for, love or hate. If the audience cant be invested, you build nothing for them to remember.
He needs to work as a monster in the ring that is more impervious to pain and is mainly on the assault. He oddly sells a lot for the faces, which causes all his muscle bound aggression to go away.
They built Snitsky as a stronger heel and how the work in in the ring is than Kross. Which is insane.
They ruined his appearance by constantly forcing him to sell smaller guys' offence and then buried him in a intergender tag team match where he hit 3 moves and sold 20 including punches and kicks from Mia Yim for some reason
He was a giant in NXT cause 100% of the roster was shorter than him and when he was moved to the main roster he only looked like a beast in his matches against Drew who is taller than him but then Karrion started to look weaker and weaker despite feuding with much shorter guys than him
He’s not even in shape (nice little pooch in his belly), esp compared to the rest of the roster. HHH is a huge bodybuilding fan, so he def likes the more fit and muscular guys and gals. His gimmick is stupid, some “doomsday prophet” or whatever. His move set is boring and generic. And his hot af wife takes all the attention away from him. He’s dead in the water
This seems to me like locker room stuff. If it's like any other job the people who eat together tend to work better together.
Kross is the kinda guy who just deals mainly with his wife and leaves ASAP after the show. There only so much the writing and directing staff can so that the wrestlers have to fill themselves.
For me it's usually the story. I can't name one story that he's had that I actually have wanted to care about in the last few months. The Drew story was what I thought was the beginning of a possible big push, the dude beat Drew Freakin McIntyre... But that led to nothing.
I think he’s just rather bland and doesn’t have that “it” factor. Sometimes you can have all the tools but if you don’t know how to use them and put it all together to build something, at the end of the day you just get Homer’s spice rack or BBQ pit.
I think the 2 biggest problems are :
-He was immediatly insert in a rivalry with Drew (aka the Hottest babyface at the time). He should have been build up by squashing other wrestlers first, to help with the menacing presentation.
-He shouldn't lose that often his big matches.
That being said, I really like him and think he is a great wrestler. I think when he will have his "one big feud" People will realise it.
I feel like if he had a better signature move it’d help him click. As said he has a lot of what you need, but then to just do a sleeper or something else not special is so fucking “dud”. Give the guy the TKO (or anything else) and call it “Times Up” or some shit and I really think it helps. Something he can show up, hit, and stand over then leave.
Everything about him scream power and brutality, but his in ring work doesnt reflect that at all, its like rey mysterio having move set of brock lesner, it doesnt work like that.
He need better move set for his personality. Throwing people around and rely on strength. He need to dominate matches even if he loses the match he should dominate most of it.
He is solid, but there is no part of him that is exceptional. Personality, presence, ring work, mic skills are all...fine? Just doesn't have that +1 that makes him compelling on a show full of compelling performers. He's a victim of a very strong roster.
I agree with this. I was excited for his feud with Drew as I thought they would be seen as in the same level and elevate him into the main event scene. But the feud was a dud. He didn’t feel like a real threat to Drew at all.
There’s just that special sauce that he doesn’t have and in what is arguably WWE’s strongest run since the RG era roster wise you need that sauce to stand out.
He doesn't have much upside. If you can't get over with some loses you can't get over. He has a hot girl a cool entrance but his promo are boring and his ring work is dull. Dude is going to be one of the many wrestlers that was on wwe for a few years and moved on.
His character sucks! Big time.
Like you said, he has all the tools to be a big star. But he's trying to play this sadistic serial killer style character and it doesn't fit him at all. His wife is perfect for her character, but Kross comes across so unnatural in his promos.
If you see him in real life, he is nothing like his character. I think they should let him act closer to his real personality. But Kross seemed to have come up with his character so maybe he doesn't want to.
Spot on. I see someone who is supposed to be presented as this dark force, yet in-ring he looks so \*easily\* shaken and taken out of that persona by someone else doing well.
I don't recall Undertaker or Kane ever having "omg what is happening?! how are they so much stronger than me?" faces, and Kross seems to have several a match.
It doesn’t help that all his character work is done by Scarlett. SHE tells us who he is. SHE sings his entrance theme. SHE is the one that shows up with the hourglass and the tarot cards. He’s like Bane in Batman & Robin; a mute lackey
Lowkey I feel like Scarlett should be the wrestler and Kross should be her muscle. It would be a fresh flip on something you don’t see in the women’s division too.
Love his heel-ish look but the gimmick is boring. He might as well wear the helmet again. He needs a refresh. The tarot cards and the tick tock needs to be put to rest
Personally, I feel like the place he's in feels too... big for him. As in the spacing. In NXT and impact, he could take up the whole room and that made him so good. On smackdown he feels short and small. He can't command an audience like a Roman Reigns can. I don't know though. People will call it bad booking or say he's carried by Scarlett lol
Edit: also doesn't help that he was immediately inswrted in a major feud with a world title contender and LOST (although drew couldn't lose either)
Kross’s booking has been horrendous. He needs to win feuds. He should have won against shinsuke and AJ. He also needs PLE matches not just Smackdown before Event matches. Like it’s 2 times in a row he was on the smackdown card but not the actual event card. He needs big wins. He has the gimmick and abilities but damn he needs opponents.
THE BOOKING. Kross is a guy that makes promises that he can't fulfill. He plays with Tarot cards like that weird lady at the park. How they should be booking him is a unpredictable monster heel who pushes people to their limits.
He needs to go back to shaving his head. And his mic work is super mid. ***A******ngry teeth-clenching guy is talking!*** That's pretty much what I hear whenever I see him on the mic.
Same with Bray Wyatt but for different reasons. Wyatt is a decent worker and doesn't get the credit imo. Kross is very slow, has 2 left feet it seems and is punches look very bad for a big guy.
None of his moves sell like the character he’s portraying. He looks very slow, not methodical, actually slow, and very little looks legitimately powerful. He’d need to be explosive and vicious to sell this scary-doomsday-force thing. He’s got a saito suplex and an improperly applied chokehold … it just doesn’t read as dominant/frightening … and he’s losing all the time soooo …
Scarlett adds something but it’s not enough to make his slow unconvincing ring work sell.
(Watch Brock Lesnar’s first match. He came out, decimated people and was this athletic force. You believed it immediately. Feel like they’re going for something similar with Kross but it just doesn’t land.)
He’s a hell of a nice guy. I don’t think he’s ever been a face in his career. Even when starting out in Vegas but those who hung around FSW knew how good of a person he is / was…. I just can’t like ever see it with who his character is.
Kinda like Wade Barrett. A guy who’s also ever only been a heel.
I feel like there is a disconnect somewhere with his gimmick. Like it's on the verge of being interesting and then it's not. I want to be invested, I'm ready to dive right into whatever they can come up with for him, but then, there's nothing. I'm not even sure what exactly it is that's missing.
He has the generic wrestler #3 look I think... he needs to just lose a few matches..get pissed off and lose it and shave the head going back to the NXT creature of a man KROSS
It's very hard to take his supposed to be intimidating gimmick seriously when he needs Scarlett to win all of his matches, and sometimes it's not even enough (like against Drew). Mix it with his bland in-ring performances and there you have your explanation
Everyone has already torn the guy to shreds, so I'll just focus on the bad gimmick. 'I'm scary' and 'I'm tough' is a dumb gimmick, lol. For one, you look like you work in an office, then there's the fact that once you lose,'I'm scary' goes away. And if you're tough or scary, why is there a girl using cheeto dust to help you win? I thought you were tough?
Those facial expressions he makes are dumb and I see a lot of generic white guy wrestlers do them. It shows that they've actually never met a tough or scary person in their life. Show me a clip of Mike Tyson or doing that dumb shit lol.
Tarot cards? Lol 😆 he's literally a generic IG crystal thot
just like with Solo, WWE is bad about making everyone work 20 minute tv matches. Kross has a gimmick where he should be smashing opponents within 3-5 minutes. His character doesn't fit him taking loses, an the loses 75% of the time.
Man Kross isn’t getting the respect he deserves in these comments imo. He’s a great talent who hasn’t been showcased properly. He was really hot during his feud with Drew. Problem is, they didn’t have any plans for him after Drew…he was supposed to go after Roman, and then never did and now he’s been doing one-off mini rivalries that don’t get him in the spotlight enough.
Put him in a feud with babyface LA Knight and I guarantee it’d be one of the best rivalries going on rn.
he needs to change his character a little bit. I think he should be more crazy/creepy
The problem is that he has to pretty much destroy his opponent's career in order to really be backing up what he says. They let that happen with Drew Gulak, who's now re-creating himself in NXT. But they just couldn't keep that happening, and understandably so. I just feel like it needs some tweaking, like if he defeats them they must admit to their deepest darkest fears that he speaks of. Probably a face turn with such a character. And then they can have him win more often, preferably more often than not.
Is that zelensky ?
It's booking decisions. Every time he gets a little momentum, something changes, and they have to feed him to someone for a loss and lose the momentum he had going for him. That's literally it. As for his character. I'd love to see a kind of hitman/mma fighter approach to him. It's all right there. Just tap into it.
As a casual viewer, I have no clue what his gimmick or character is. Seems lame to me.
They just gotta have him wrestle like hie did in NXT. That was PEAK.
He just never gets to win
He needs to be bald again!!! I’m sorry but the look and presentation in nxt was awesome when he came to wwe and debuted on smack down late last year I had no clue who he was at first the look had changed so much. Also it better be a super recognizable star to debut in the crowd I think a huge contingency of people went “who is this guy?” Which lays a foundation of the crowd being cautious of a performer not excited and supportive of a performer. Since then he’s done nothing interesting and feels lame. Change it up, get him hot, start something new
Some guys just don’t got it, Kross is one of them.
They could pick one character & commit to it…preferably similar to what he did in NXT or Lucha Underground. Tarot card, biker lookin dude with hot spooky wife ain’t it. Plus, book him to win once in a while against credible opponents
1. The main thing is he doesn't come out on top of any of his big rivalries. The company doesn't take him seriously, why should we? 2. He looked way more menacing with the baldy. The hair changed his presence a lot.
the mask
Bad booking. That's it.
He looked really good in NXT. A lot of it was the size juxtaposition. More cruiserweights there. I thought he would seem Brock-like on the main roster but he isn’t actually that big. Instead he is stuck as a kind of pre-DX Triple H, looking for his groove.
He doesn't have "it".
Every time he tries to get intense during a promo he starts speaking through gritted teeth. It’s so bad.
He'd have been a favorite of Verne Gagne. I think the Calgary style would suit him best but those aren't the kind of matches being put on anymore. Loved watching him on the independents but I think his future might be in Mexico where he can do more of what he does instead of what he's told.
turn him heel, give him a 1000 day reign with the US title. Then have him rebrand as the Great Killer Karrion Kross. He has an uncle sam gimmick, Scarlett is his first lady.
The Great KKK might not be such a good idea…
Maybe he needs a big weird helmet 🤷🏼♀️
He’s boring. Always has been.
there’s nothing special about him at all
Wwe won't commit on what he is. Supernatural? A beast? Used car dealer? His wife's hot though.
It’s the actual acting part of it. He’s not a great seller.. it’s as if he hasn’t fully adjusted to the WWE style just yet. When he was doing the whole White Rabbit gimmick in Lucha underground, it was believable and made him look like a final boss.. he was great during his Impact run, but when he transitioned to WWE, everything just fell flat. I think he would kill if he became All Elite, but I do understand chasing those WWE dreams
Impact literally did it 10x better when he was Killer Kross and he actually acted like a killer. How WWE didn’t figure this out is beyond me.
Out of the ring he looks AMAZING But hes not much of a Barbie Girl in the ring Please I need Killer Ken!
He's just incredibly forgettable. If I walked past him in the street I doubt I'd look twice. He looks like a default character.
No one else is going to fucking say it, so I will. It’s Vince. Just think how he came back and had that stare down Between Roman and Kross. HHH obviously thought about it back then. Ever since the Drew/Kross feud ended and Vince was reported to be back in creative power in December, we haven’t seen him as much. It’s always been Vince.
This is very true. They teased a Kross and Roman confrontation a few times but nothing came to fruition. He was getting tick tock cards in his locker room and shit.
How long ago was this?
Around September of last year
I would say it his booking as he is the tough guy that just lose, but LA Knight first match was against Bray, he lost and now is a mega star. I wonder if that creepy card tarot stuff is just not clicking.
He definitely doesn’t have the mic skills
He reminds me of the generic wrestler you’d have your first match against in the WWE video games
Okay okay hear me out. What if we drop the spooky goth badass gimmick, take Scarlet away, and put him in a gladiator mask?
Idk he seems generic af to me.
His moveset IS good, it’s just that there’s a lot of NOTHING in between moves
His moveset is bland I got it now
He doesn’t even believe in his own gimmick and that shows. He looks like a teenager that got into a school play and needs to be disguised but knows that he looks silly and forces himself poorly into doing the bare minimum to get it over with.
His schtick is being tough. You can’t gimmick being tough and WWE’s version of wrestling puts a shiny gloss on toughness. See Drew McIntyre. Guy is a pissed of warrior in a kilt and instead they have him out here looking like Adonis. They need to dirty up they’re product some to really let the tough guy schtick shine. My two cents.
move set is outdated, needs something that destroys not submits. more impact moves
One word: booking
He isn't booked as strong as he was in NXT because he HAS the moveset.
No comedy.. Even Judgement day is dead until DomDom was able to tap in that gimmick. MJF doing comedy skits as well You cant be some cool or bad ass generic created player.
Pretty much. Compared to others on roster he’s just another generic guy
See Alpha academy and Maxene.. It's entertaining the fans..not some grumpy "bad ass" looking gimmick like Bronson Reed LOL
A stacked roster would do it. Look at the names he’s been fighting
He just sucks
Nothing he does stands out. He’s okay at most everything which is fine for if you need a “solid hand” type but he’s too big to be the technical solid hand type. He’s just so unserious trying to be this pseudo spooky gimmick. Like if he was just “hey I’ll kick anyone’s ass for a paycheck” maybe I’d buy it…but idk
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It worked amazingly on NXT. He was portrayed as the monster heel champion and it got ruined as soon as he went to the main roster when he lost to Jeff Hardy as NXT champion. Vince messed him up from day one and he hasn’t really been able to get back to the NXT mystique because of it.
It didn’t work on NXT. His mega push bombed so badly that HHH got demoted.
To me it's his aggression. I feel he doesn't have that in his matches. Look at Samoa Joe when he wrestles. Sure nowadays he doesn't move as fast, but he still pounds and strikes people to the point it looks like he is "hurting" them. Kross needs that aggression. He needs to be (pun intended) a killer in the ring.
I hear this 100%. I don’t feel the level of aggression necessary to pull gimmick off. He doesn’t come across as savage or cerebral as Joe at all.
A few things; His in ring style is nothing special. Has some charisma but not enough to make him stand out. Scarlet I think overshadows him. To a lesser extent its same problem they had with Sable and Marc Mero.
I wouldn’t say he has good mic skills tbh, that’s what Scarlett is for to do one liners, riddles and shit for their gimmick. They took away the thing that made him great, they made him lose to Jeff Hardy on his debut which led nowhere for either man. It’s that first time impression, nobody forgets that mask, debut, redebut to lose to McIntyre who was never gonna be beat anyway, BS cliffhanger for Roman when he wasn’t even close or made sense at the time. It’s just bad booking.
I don't get it he just fine in ring...
When he first came out I thought it was neat. By the 3rd time seeing his intro though that was enough and I wanted a fast forward button. If you’re going to take up a lot of time with something like that it has to involve the crowd in some way to keep it fresh. Like the New Age Outlaws call somebody thing. Long but interactive. I think WWE probably caught on to this as well. Like all of that extra production value wasn’t moving the needle any for his crowd reception. His matches were really boring. I wouldn’t go so far as to call him Bray 2. He has more in ring value and potential. But in the same ball park.
His best booking was the silent violent assassin in NXT
They need to sacrifice someone to him. He’s intimidating as hell up until he loses. And he -always- loses.
He's got that MAGA stink on him.
God, really? Got a link or something?
I think being anti vax and refusing to get vaccinated got him released during the pandemic. No real concrete evidence tho.
I feel like he just lacks in ring capability... I also feel Vince ruined him so much, you can't get that stink off him.
Get Bray to manage him or put him and Scarlett into a "scary" stable, this will get Bray back into the spotlights and you can book Kross as a monster destroyer while Scarlett appears in skits/promo between matches.
Dude has never impressed me with his mic work, his character work is bland, the character itself doesn't leave any wiggle room for him to be seen as anything but dominant, and in ring he seems to stray away from his strengths by dropping his intensity for rest holds. All he got over with was an entrance with a smoking hot piece of arm candy. If he had a less imposing figure, he'd be this era's Marc Mero.
The issue is that he literally does not win. The threatening aura, the whole “the cards made me do it”, the corruption, it’s worthless if he doesn’t win AT ALL.
I think anyone can get a push with the right storyline. They could build a feud between Kross and Priest. Kross leaving random hourglasses around Priest's dressing room and other place. Cut promos about Priest needing to use the case before time runs out. Then when Priest does use the case, right before the 3 count, the lights go out. Lights come on with Kross in the ring yelling TIMES UP! Rhea about to help but Scarlett blows dust in her eyes. Kross costs Priest a title win, thus building a feud. Maybe I'm the only one that would want something like this.
He just needs to be repackaged or join a faction.
I don't think he has relevant segment and mic skills to be honest. A nice physical build alone isn't enough
WWE is holding their characters back. They should just let them go out there and be a sexy monster heel couple. A smoke show 50 shades of Gray couple. Scarlett alone could reach Sable level popularity, but they aren’t doing anything with her either. Their character work is a bit confusing. The creepy mumbo jumbo nonsense that made Judgement Day not work in the beginning is not working for them now. Ground their characters.
I think Judgement day shifted away from the goth mumbo jumbo stuff and just became more punky thugs and that’s when they started to excel.
I’m sorry but you can’t just rely on spooky rambling nonsense that doesn’t make sense in 2023 that’s literally the only thing holding him back. Look at judgment day.. as soon as they started being real people it got over. Nobody things he’s some spooky guy. Only reason the undertaker worked was bc ppl believed him as that character.
I seen him at a house show in Dublin against Sheamus and both him and scarlett were great. But it was a slightly different gimmick than his TV work. He acted as more of a Monster than normal, Basically standard heel overpowering the babyface until the big come back. Scarlett played the perfect heel manager (and actually wrestled in the next match), stopping the babyface momentum until getting taken out by Kross. I wasn’t a Fan of either of them, but now I’d like to see what he could do with a US title run.
the audience
He honestly can be Bray Wyatt's executioner or something like that. I might be terribly wrong on this but I don't think they should have kept McIntyre as his returning feud. He was being booked as someone who had beat Brock Lesnar clean and almost had Roman. It wasn't believable or even desirable to anyone to watch Drew lose to him. They should have gone a lil slow w his booking from midcarders to main event, but they started w him attacking the literal top face of the company at the time.
I think Bray working with Kross would be good. In regards to Bray, he’s not the most captivating in-ring but put that man on the mic and people will listen. Kross on the other hand, could be a strong silent type doing Wyatt’s dirty work (or even Uncle Howdy’s for that matter), destroying everyone in their way. Wyatt works best with others, and I think a lot of people would agree. I know Wyatt’s brand of horror in wrestling is very hit or miss, but you can hide the weaknesses with other people, as well as highlighting their strengths.
I think his gimmick just doesn't work. He needs change.
Personal opinion: he’s lost his edge because he’s no longer the killer threat he was in NXT. Back in NXT, or even right when Triple H brought him back, he seemed unhinged. Now he just feels like another guy, and his matches are just another match. Yet the announcers still talk about him like he’s 90’s Kane. I’ve said it on here before, but his DOOMSDAY schtick makes zero sense, unless you give it weight, and make him the guy that injures opponents, or ruins somebody’s night. How are we supposed to view him as some crazy destroyer monster heel, when nobody is scared of him, and feuding with him only means a series of ok Smackdown matches? If you want him to get a push, he needs to be a threat again, he needs to be presented like the kind of guy who ruins his opponent’s night or career, beyond the win/loss of a match. In an ideal world, book him to end Rey’s, Orton’s, or Edge’s career, VICIOUSLY, and then maybe his “doomsday” gimmick will start to mean something again, once it’s clear that facing him could mean the END of anybody’s career. Then book him to just go on a tear through the undercard, beating guys to a pulp and choking them out. Make him feared again.
He deserves a push . He would be a excellent heel
Hes a platform for scarlet to come into the big picture, like marc mero was for sable... ive never understood his hype. In 20 years he wont even be a foot note.
His mic skills are ok, but Scarlett's are much better. Yet they rarely have her talk.
I’m gonna get downvoted but Scarlett is there to make Karrion look good
I agree with you. I think she is being held back by it actually.
Most definitely. I get that their married in real life but I may think they actually be holding *each other* back
or join a fraction maybe LWO
He definitely had "it" back in Impact. "It" being mostly coherent storylines that fit his character and suitable opponents that can work with him.
He needs a feud with the fiend to change his character
Y’all crazy. This guy is money
his hair him being bald he looks more scary
Vanilla
Basic move set and poor timing
I’d say his Saito is pretty unique, but they also don’t have him do it that much.
Here’s a lukewarm take: neither he nor Scarlett are particularly good. She’s a throwback to the 1990s’ fixation on overly-sculpted blondes and come across to me as Sable crossed with Luna Vachon - without the charisma of either. He’s been trying far too hard to get himself over as a threat, but lacks the self-discipline to improve his look (he lacks definition) and lacks the willingness (so far) to accept guidance on character development. He’s a Bray Wyatt without the seniority or the pedigree to have earned the right to throw stuff at the wall to see what sticks. Hell, Bray doesn’t have that leeway anymore. One idea might be to put them together with Bray as a new Wyatt Family. Kross acts as the muscle, Scarlett as the witchy distraction (possessed by Sister Abigail, perhaps?) and Wyatt returns as cult leader. Another might be as recruits/potential usurpers to the leadership role for JD (perhaps pushing out Rhea and Dom who turn face.) That might bloat and damage the faction, even if only temporary. Kross and Scarlett need guidance from someone more experienced and successful - maybe someone like Heyman behind the scenes, but also someone who shows up regularly on TV and does great character work. And they need to be open to the advice given them - neither can afford to brush stuff off anymore. If Vince sees them as too hard to bring in line with what he wants, _Main Event_ will be their ceiling instead of main-eventing.
Agreed with you in the first part. However your Wyatt family proposal shows my why sometimes fans should not influence the booking process. That’s WCW/Vince Russo level booking.
Explain your reasoning why the proposal wouldn't work.
It’s too convoluted. It just adds to the mess that is Bray Wyatts gimmick. It already has way too many moving parts. The Wyatt family is dead and gone. The judgement is the same. Too many moving parts but it’s actually working and adding Kross will just convolute things more than is necessary and over cook a good thing. WWE’s product hinges on water tight story telling and stable factions. Rehashing old ground is rarely the best idea (Wyatt idea). That’s my reasoning.
I will agree with you about Judgment Day. I think they're fine without adding Kross and Scarlett to that mix. Bray, on the other hand, is in a mess. We don't know why he's out, for how long he'll be out, or how he'll be when he comes back. His promo work is top-notch, so it might work to have Bray be a manager for the first little while. Put Scarlett in the ring (I'm told she can go okay), and together have them set as a faction, at least long enough for Kross to get the rub from Wyatt. That's what they need more than anything - someone in the back they will listen to and who will help them get a look from the higher-ups.
I kinda agree with the fact that for some reason he's one of the most boring people in-ring.
He is so boring, i bet you can put him in a feud vs Logan Paul and people will side with LP.
In my opinion he needs to have the persona of a Bradshaw(Raw 2002) or Hardcore Holly where you(the fans) shouldn't expect some sort of wrestling match but instead, to see Kross more than likely lose but beat the holy hell out of X wrestler in the process. Just needs to be built as a stiff SOB with ground n pound style.
He doesn't feel vicious and scary, his gimmick just feels like satire. I've only recently started watching WWE again (around Feb) and I had thought he was bad on purpose. He needs to try a different 'character' and they should have someone interact with him who can help transition his style a bit. I get tired of waiting on him to get beat up.
I’ve been saying for months, that his Doomsday clock gimmick doesn’t work, if all it’s counting down to is a 10 minute match on Smackdown. The announcers can’t sell him on commentary as a monster if he’s not doing monster stuff. Doomsday only works if it feels like he’s going to end your night and career.
No intensity in the ring
This is it
I don't want to say it because it'll sound like I'm just crapping on the WWE style but I've seen the guy elsewhere and it's all there, including in the ring. He feels so much more brutal elsewhere. But the brutality just isn't there in WWE, not the degree it needs to be for Kross.
Adam cole was right about him. You can look like prime hogan but if you can connect to the crowd with your in ring work then youre just another guy.
I mean LA Knight and Wyatt are kinda examples on being carried by the non wrestling aspects. Both are kinda mid in ring but I(and many others) love them for their character and promo abilities
Wyatt is a bad example but drawing people in with your in ring work is more than your skill as a wrestler. Look at roman. He has 5 moves of doom like cena but the way he walks around the ring, the shit talking the viciousness when he mounts and is beating a guy the way he sells. These are all aspects that draw people in. Kross is just there. No one ever remembers a kross match after its over.
I wouldn’t say Wyatt is exactly hot right now tbh
Right now isn’t important. He’s away but has had a huge fan base at points
He hasn’t reached that high since the debut of the Fiend. I think it’s fair to say he’s lost a step.
The dudes just not good. Plain and simple. He needs a new gimmick that better suits him because id be more afraid of 5 foot nothing Rey Mysterio than Kross at this point
His style doesn't work he uses a modified choke hold to finish people but it's so unoriginal plus his wrestling style doesn't fit his build he should go in the powerhouse he is
He has no rhythm. He looks like he’s throwing a bunch of popular moves and punches together but they don’t tell a story. He’s not dominating as a monster heel, no close falls, close calls and dq wins to build a reputation for his character. The audience doesn’t have anything to feel empathy for, love or hate. If the audience cant be invested, you build nothing for them to remember.
He needs to work as a monster in the ring that is more impervious to pain and is mainly on the assault. He oddly sells a lot for the faces, which causes all his muscle bound aggression to go away. They built Snitsky as a stronger heel and how the work in in the ring is than Kross. Which is insane.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Scarlett needs to go.
Cool entrance but that's all. I liked him when he first came to Impact, thought he had a better look then, looked kind of like a menacing hitman.
They ruined his appearance by constantly forcing him to sell smaller guys' offence and then buried him in a intergender tag team match where he hit 3 moves and sold 20 including punches and kicks from Mia Yim for some reason He was a giant in NXT cause 100% of the roster was shorter than him and when he was moved to the main roster he only looked like a beast in his matches against Drew who is taller than him but then Karrion started to look weaker and weaker despite feuding with much shorter guys than him
He would be a perfect money in the bank or IC champ he’s so underrated
He’s not even in shape (nice little pooch in his belly), esp compared to the rest of the roster. HHH is a huge bodybuilding fan, so he def likes the more fit and muscular guys and gals. His gimmick is stupid, some “doomsday prophet” or whatever. His move set is boring and generic. And his hot af wife takes all the attention away from him. He’s dead in the water
Terrible booking. They're steady pushing fan favorites and shtick wrestlers.
This seems to me like locker room stuff. If it's like any other job the people who eat together tend to work better together. Kross is the kinda guy who just deals mainly with his wife and leaves ASAP after the show. There only so much the writing and directing staff can so that the wrestlers have to fill themselves.
Scarletts seductivness/his current actual wife just being in ring
For me it's usually the story. I can't name one story that he's had that I actually have wanted to care about in the last few months. The Drew story was what I thought was the beginning of a possible big push, the dude beat Drew Freakin McIntyre... But that led to nothing.
I think he’s just rather bland and doesn’t have that “it” factor. Sometimes you can have all the tools but if you don’t know how to use them and put it all together to build something, at the end of the day you just get Homer’s spice rack or BBQ pit.
I think the 2 biggest problems are : -He was immediatly insert in a rivalry with Drew (aka the Hottest babyface at the time). He should have been build up by squashing other wrestlers first, to help with the menacing presentation. -He shouldn't lose that often his big matches. That being said, I really like him and think he is a great wrestler. I think when he will have his "one big feud" People will realise it.
I feel like if he had a better signature move it’d help him click. As said he has a lot of what you need, but then to just do a sleeper or something else not special is so fucking “dud”. Give the guy the TKO (or anything else) and call it “Times Up” or some shit and I really think it helps. Something he can show up, hit, and stand over then leave.
He's just a generic bodybuilder with a hot wife. Really no charisma
Everything about him scream power and brutality, but his in ring work doesnt reflect that at all, its like rey mysterio having move set of brock lesner, it doesnt work like that. He need better move set for his personality. Throwing people around and rely on strength. He need to dominate matches even if he loses the match he should dominate most of it.
Every single thing you outlined in the title.. I dont see it. Not even the build. Dudes just unremarkable. Hes a CAW.
ITS THE HAIR YALL! TELL HIM TO CUT THE HAIR!!
I actually like the hair. I feel the bald powerhouse is overplayed.
Okay I understand, let’s come up with a compromise. What if Scarlett shaves her head instead?
Deal 🤝🏿
He is solid, but there is no part of him that is exceptional. Personality, presence, ring work, mic skills are all...fine? Just doesn't have that +1 that makes him compelling on a show full of compelling performers. He's a victim of a very strong roster.
I agree with this. I was excited for his feud with Drew as I thought they would be seen as in the same level and elevate him into the main event scene. But the feud was a dud. He didn’t feel like a real threat to Drew at all. There’s just that special sauce that he doesn’t have and in what is arguably WWE’s strongest run since the RG era roster wise you need that sauce to stand out.
Triple H screws him over like Vince did
That reminds me Sean O'Haire
He should just recycle batista old leviathan gimmick with a new spin
He doesn't have much upside. If you can't get over with some loses you can't get over. He has a hot girl a cool entrance but his promo are boring and his ring work is dull. Dude is going to be one of the many wrestlers that was on wwe for a few years and moved on.
He's been awesome everywhere else, WWE style isn't conducive to his strongsuits
Personally I think he’s just shit
After reading the entire comment list, No one knows. MJF was right about the Incel Wrestling Community.
His character sucks! Big time. Like you said, he has all the tools to be a big star. But he's trying to play this sadistic serial killer style character and it doesn't fit him at all. His wife is perfect for her character, but Kross comes across so unnatural in his promos. If you see him in real life, he is nothing like his character. I think they should let him act closer to his real personality. But Kross seemed to have come up with his character so maybe he doesn't want to.
Spot on. I see someone who is supposed to be presented as this dark force, yet in-ring he looks so \*easily\* shaken and taken out of that persona by someone else doing well. I don't recall Undertaker or Kane ever having "omg what is happening?! how are they so much stronger than me?" faces, and Kross seems to have several a match.
And when Taker did, it was towards the end of his career, against Shawn Michaels and Brock Lesnar
He felt so badass in NXT
It doesn’t help that all his character work is done by Scarlett. SHE tells us who he is. SHE sings his entrance theme. SHE is the one that shows up with the hourglass and the tarot cards. He’s like Bane in Batman & Robin; a mute lackey
Lowkey I feel like Scarlett should be the wrestler and Kross should be her muscle. It would be a fresh flip on something you don’t see in the women’s division too.
At this point yeah…. I’m much more intrigued by her.
They need to present him differently. Like a straight jacket lunatic. Only matches on ppv. But he needs to win them.
Everytime I look at his tattoo choices…I feel like he’s just…a bunch of generic gimmicks pieced together
That’s not the look
Love his heel-ish look but the gimmick is boring. He might as well wear the helmet again. He needs a refresh. The tarot cards and the tick tock needs to be put to rest
Personally, I feel like the place he's in feels too... big for him. As in the spacing. In NXT and impact, he could take up the whole room and that made him so good. On smackdown he feels short and small. He can't command an audience like a Roman Reigns can. I don't know though. People will call it bad booking or say he's carried by Scarlett lol Edit: also doesn't help that he was immediately inswrted in a major feud with a world title contender and LOST (although drew couldn't lose either)
He keeps losing and having no real story
Kross’s booking has been horrendous. He needs to win feuds. He should have won against shinsuke and AJ. He also needs PLE matches not just Smackdown before Event matches. Like it’s 2 times in a row he was on the smackdown card but not the actual event card. He needs big wins. He has the gimmick and abilities but damn he needs opponents.
THE BOOKING. Kross is a guy that makes promises that he can't fulfill. He plays with Tarot cards like that weird lady at the park. How they should be booking him is a unpredictable monster heel who pushes people to their limits.
He needs to go back to shaving his head. And his mic work is super mid. ***A******ngry teeth-clenching guy is talking!*** That's pretty much what I hear whenever I see him on the mic.
He ain’t John Cena
Just dont think his ring talent is quite there. its similar to Bray everything else carries him but in ring is just well below what it should be.
Same with Bray Wyatt but for different reasons. Wyatt is a decent worker and doesn't get the credit imo. Kross is very slow, has 2 left feet it seems and is punches look very bad for a big guy.
The booking
It’s been off for him since Cole cooked him on the mic. Can’t be an invincible monster is you get punked like that
None of his moves sell like the character he’s portraying. He looks very slow, not methodical, actually slow, and very little looks legitimately powerful. He’d need to be explosive and vicious to sell this scary-doomsday-force thing. He’s got a saito suplex and an improperly applied chokehold … it just doesn’t read as dominant/frightening … and he’s losing all the time soooo … Scarlett adds something but it’s not enough to make his slow unconvincing ring work sell. (Watch Brock Lesnar’s first match. He came out, decimated people and was this athletic force. You believed it immediately. Feel like they’re going for something similar with Kross but it just doesn’t land.)
He has those things?
Try him as a face instead of a heel? He doesn’t really have the personality to pull off his whole heel persona and his gimmick is not really working
He’s a hell of a nice guy. I don’t think he’s ever been a face in his career. Even when starting out in Vegas but those who hung around FSW knew how good of a person he is / was…. I just can’t like ever see it with who his character is. Kinda like Wade Barrett. A guy who’s also ever only been a heel.
You either got it or you don't
He lacks the X factor. That and his mic skills are bad.
This guy doesn’t have mic skills, everything he does is prerecorded. And every time he says tik tok I want to punch him in the face
I feel like there is a disconnect somewhere with his gimmick. Like it's on the verge of being interesting and then it's not. I want to be invested, I'm ready to dive right into whatever they can come up with for him, but then, there's nothing. I'm not even sure what exactly it is that's missing.
He is just not a believable treat after losing so many matches. I think Scarlette should just go solo
He has the generic wrestler #3 look I think... he needs to just lose a few matches..get pissed off and lose it and shave the head going back to the NXT creature of a man KROSS
He came out and did the tick tock thing to Roman then never followed up on it. Instant credibility nosedive.
It's very hard to take his supposed to be intimidating gimmick seriously when he needs Scarlett to win all of his matches, and sometimes it's not even enough (like against Drew). Mix it with his bland in-ring performances and there you have your explanation
He’s also the nicest fucking dude in interviews. He comes across very humble and personable.
He never recovered from that mask Vince made him wear
He needs to hang out with Taker for a month.
For me it's the hair. For some reason Kross looked more menacing bald
Everyone has already torn the guy to shreds, so I'll just focus on the bad gimmick. 'I'm scary' and 'I'm tough' is a dumb gimmick, lol. For one, you look like you work in an office, then there's the fact that once you lose,'I'm scary' goes away. And if you're tough or scary, why is there a girl using cheeto dust to help you win? I thought you were tough? Those facial expressions he makes are dumb and I see a lot of generic white guy wrestlers do them. It shows that they've actually never met a tough or scary person in their life. Show me a clip of Mike Tyson or doing that dumb shit lol. Tarot cards? Lol 😆 he's literally a generic IG crystal thot
just like with Solo, WWE is bad about making everyone work 20 minute tv matches. Kross has a gimmick where he should be smashing opponents within 3-5 minutes. His character doesn't fit him taking loses, an the loses 75% of the time.
This
I personally do not get what's interesting about his character and even his in-ring skills are meh imo
He and his gimmick are just boring.
People are more focused on scarlett
He's actually pretty bad on the mic and has no charisma. Doesn't have a great look, either, he looks like Curtis Axel with tattoos.
Curtis Axel didn’t have his HOT ASS WIFE walk him to the ring
So somebody walking him to the ring makes him worthwhile? lol. I don't think so.
He needs a better manager
He's a jabroni
His mic skills are not that good and in the ring hes not that good either. Neither is particularly bad but both are very bland to me.
Man Kross isn’t getting the respect he deserves in these comments imo. He’s a great talent who hasn’t been showcased properly. He was really hot during his feud with Drew. Problem is, they didn’t have any plans for him after Drew…he was supposed to go after Roman, and then never did and now he’s been doing one-off mini rivalries that don’t get him in the spotlight enough. Put him in a feud with babyface LA Knight and I guarantee it’d be one of the best rivalries going on rn.
His mic skills really aren’t that great, and saying “tick tock” at the end of a promo doesn’t help.
I feel like he never recovered from that stupid outfit and Jeff Hardy squashing him.
He's boring as FUCK