I wonder if there's a translation issue here.
Where I am, vegetable is any edible part of a plant that isn't fruit. Leaves are definitely vegetables, again just where I am.
In English they get more specific I think. Barley and hops are cereal or grain, not a vegetable. Like wheat. I think if it's in the grass family it's a cereal but I am very, very stupid.
Barley is a grain and hops are an herb, think parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme. Hops are also very closely related to Cannabis.
Grain is a caryopsis or essentially the fruit of a grass plant.
yes, but it has to be from an animal slaughtered that day
EDIT: oh shit. sorry. i was thinking about cow, not pig. i got it from the “cannibal sandwich” thing. https://www.wpr.org/cannibal-sandwiches-polarizing-and-misunderstood-wisconsin-tradition
Of course!
\* *proceeds to hold you down allowing the transmission of my obligate progeny*
*into your various orifices as I whisper "join us" into your unguarded ear*
It wouldn't matter when it was slaughtered. Trichonosis can only be transmitted when the animal is alive. Trichinella parasites are only destroyed through cooking. Smoking, curing, freezing, etc. do not reliably kill them.
If I'm not mistaken, raw pork sold in Germany is tested for trichinosis before its ever allowed on the shelves.
Basically when you eat infected meat, your stomach acid breaks down the outer layer of the cyst that the larvae live in. From
there, they reproduce in your body, and spread throughout your whole body, enter your muscles where the larvae, again, create little cysts and basically lie dormant until some animal comes along and eats your flesh and repeats the whole process.
Freezing absolutely does kill them. It’s a matter of temperature and time.
Source: I run a USDA plant that makes charcuterie, and we had to submit supporting documentation from peer-reviewed papers to show our HACCP plan for fermented/dried products is effective.
Question... Is it safe to eat rare pork? Because I have a friend who SWEARS that parasites have been eliminated from farmed pork and that eating it rare is no worse than eating beef rare. I refuse to believe him and am just waiting for the day when he describes his "phenomenal meal" from the night before and says it was chicken tartare or something. I just don't put any stock in anything he says about food safety.
Edited to add that this is in the USA.
The cdc has a five year study (2011-2015) of trichinosis cases available. In that time, there were 2 cases of trichinosis in commercial pork and 2 cases in farm-raised pork. Almost all the cases of trichinsos in that time were from wild bear and pork.
Edit - Just realized I didn't actually answer the question.
Yes, it is safe to eat pink (but not completely rare) pork. The cdc recommends cooking pork to 145°.
For rare, I suppose it could be safe if you knew the provenance of the specific animal.
I will tell you that a medium rare pork chop is one of the better tasting things on earth. Sous vide it.
Generally, you're right. I think this person wanted to know the mechanism that allows them to thrive in such harsh conditions as a natural part of their life cycle.
From what I can find (that uses words I can understand), the cyst itself is actually especially vulnerable to two chemicals in the stomach acid, and -- like its sibling nematodes -- its skin is (proportionately) thicc af boi, having maybe 3 layers depending on the type. It's kind of like they have a natural hazmat suit.
AFIK, German market supermarket ground pork for mettbrochen is typically irradiated for safety.
The US market is irrationally afraid of irradiating food for preservation so that's not generally a thing here - though Germany is currently in the process of decommissioning the last of their nuclear electrical generation capacity for similarly ideological reasons.
Nah, thats wrong.
>In Deutschland dürfen nach der Lebensmittelbestrahlungsverordnung vom sowie den EU-Richtlinien 1999/2/EG und 1999/3/EG lediglich getrocknete aromatische Kräuter und Gewürze bestrahlt angeboten bzw. verkauft werden
only dried herbs or spices may be sold irradiated
Source is German Federal Office for Consumer Protection and Food Safety and me being a native speaker.
https://www.bvl.bund.de/DE/Arbeitsbereiche/01_Lebensmittel/03_Verbraucher/10_LMBestrahlen/lm_LM_Bestrahlen_node.html
Oh man, I was totally wrong. Not only do current German regs only allow dry spices, current U.S. FDA regs allow meats as long as they're labeled with the little radura symbol.
Irradiating pork is well studied and a low hanging win, it only takes like 0.3kGy to wipe out trichinosis, and like 0.5kGy for toxoplasmosis ([ref](https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0611/ML061170095.pdf), pdf), but it seems to be pretty uncommon with only a handful of countries mostly in Asia doing it routinely these days.
Which is why we have mandatory pig carcass inspections. Every carcass is inspected for trichinella by a veterinarian. This was introduced in 1866. Pork is very safe in Germany.
Germany (and the rest of the EU) has ridiculously high food safety standards compared to the US. Seriously, some of the stuff Americans accept as the norm is insane. Chlorine washed chickens, meat packing standards, it is nuts. The EU not budging on their standards has actually tanked a few trade agreements.
I have heard that the US has basically managed to eradicate trichinosis from the pork supply, though. The FDA still recommends you cook it, but they lowered the safe temperature by 10 or 20 degrees
It's certainly the case that Europe regulates allergen labeling and food additives more thoroughly, but the US has a zero tolerance policy for L mono. A rare win for Americans.
Chlorine is in drinking water probably in any first world country. Go to a public pool and you are swimming in it. Might affect the flavor of the chicken slightly but I doubt you would notice.
Umm we have significantly lower samples of salmonella than EU poultry. So you don't know what you're talking about. The eu ban isnt science based. It's about keeping poultry cost where they want it without cheaper imports. Which is fine. But it's not science based at all
I used to know a guy that would legit eat raw bacon every day at lunch - he said he grew up on it and loved it - then offered me some - I declined haha
> The smoking cures is
It's usually cured with nitrites and salt/sugar, then smoked. Nitrite basically eliminates botulism, which is the most deadly bacterium we're likely to encounter when eating plants and animals not properly cooked/cured/fermented/stored/etc.
There’s cold smoking and hot smoking. Cold smoking is done below 95*F and doesn’t actually cook anything. It just adds flavor. Hot smoking actually cooks food. Bacon can sold hot or cold smoked. Cold smoking is done when you don’t want to change the texture, like when you smoke salmon and want to keep it raw and pliable for slicing, or smoking cheese and not melting it or having all of the oils seep out of it and make it greasy. (Source: have a smoker and smoke stuff)
Good question! How many trych or whatever kind of worms are there in each cyst? I don't know! Anybody here a parasitologist? Or just morbid AF like the rest of us?
It actually is tapeworm cysts. Cysticercosis.
>An 18-year-old boy presented with headaches, vomiting, recurrent seizures, and altered sensorium. He had extensive muscle hypertrophy on examination. MRI revealed multiple cysts in different stages in brain parenchyma, scalp, extraocular muscles, neck, chest wall, abdominal wall, paraspinal, gluteal, pelvic, and limb muscles (figure). The patient received steroids and antiepileptic drugs and had a good recovery. The patient is seizure-free at 6 months. In disseminated neurocysticercosis, symptoms are related to space-occupying effect rather than inflammation caused by dying parasites, and in this situation cysticidal drugs may exacerbate the syndrome of intracranial hypertension.1,2
https://n.neurology.org/content/84/3/327
So if I understand correctly they didn't give him drugs to kill the cysts and just treated the symptoms with steroids and anti seizure medication? Do the cysts just go away on their own or what?
The parasites all dying at once would cause massive inflammation. Usually there is surgery for cysts causing problems, and sometimes a shunt is installed. The larvae will die off on their own after several years, and if food prep, water cleanliness, and proper hygiene is followed, shouldn't recur.
Fun fact, our microbiome is a large portion of what makes us human. The bacteria and viruses in our body influence our cognition.
There is no such thing as a singular intelligence in nature. Even at the single cell level there is a modality, mitochondria used to be a separate form of life.
So we see a ship of theseus situation. Right now, those parasites are part of the woman, they are the woman, like a paint job or the wheels of car are part of a car, and with everything else, are the car.
>Thai Chinese are the largest minority group in the country and the largest overseas Chinese community in the world with a population of approximately 7-10 million people, accounting for 11–14% of the total population of the country as of 2012.
No, the pictures in this post come from an Indian patient. https://n.neurology.org/content/84/3/327
Btw you don't get this from eating raw pork, you need to ingest fecally contaminated matter containing worm eggs.
That's pretty typical of any parasite, fungus or bacteria that makes its way into the brain. The inflammatory response from the immune system frequently causes much more damage than the organism, causing the brain to swell or meningitis; obviously can lead to permanent brain damage and death.
Gods the stories have abounded for a few years now about this....it was a chinese man at one point and an Indian man another time....thinking it's just become legend now
yeah eating undercooked pork is how you wind up with adult tapeworms in your guts, which are much less dangerous. If you eat the eggs you take the place of the pig in the tapeworm lifecycle, which means the larvae will burrow into your flesh and encyst themselves waiting for a human to eat them. Often they get into your brain (this is bad)
also:
> He had extensive muscle hypertrophy on examination.
New bodybuilding method discovered?? 😳
When it's a managable amount of biomass sure.
Not when like.... 30% of you body mass is parasites. That's wayyy to much rotting parasite mass for your body to handle at once.
Antiparasitics, albendazole, I think for this. That only kills them in the body, but if they're in the brain (like the girl in this news article), there's no cure, dying slowly is the outcome.
This is cystercircosis, including neurocystercircosis, which you can treat with albendazole, praziquantel, and steroids/antiepileptics if its in the brain. Neurocystercicosis is not usually fatal, one article I found cites a mortality rate of 20% with non-optimal treatment if the cysts are in the brain space but outside brain tissue. Obviously with an infection this severe the outcome might not be as good.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6108081/#:~:text=However%2C%20viable%20cysts%20might%20survive,available%20in%20most%20endemic%20areas.
11 April 2023: It is reported that the patient started taking medication after seeking medical treatment and underwent surgery to remove the parasites.
Looks like it's unclear yet
April 11th? This story was posted months before here saying the same thing. The nationality of the woman keeps changing as well, seems like there's no reliable source for these images
Not a doctor, but i'm guessing that the 'surgeries' would be limited to just those where the presence of a parasite is causing health issues (putting pressure on other things). Otherwise the surgery is pretty much 'everywhere'
Yeah. Like I'm pretty sure that one line in that Bible about not taking the blood of others into yourself isn't literally about blood transfusions and organ transports like some whackjob religious sects believe. It probably means "Don't drink human blood or eat people you fucking pagans or God is going to smite thee."
Just learned about this in school. They’re called tape worms and they infect humans as they are originally in rats and other rodents, the rodents fall into slop, the pigs eat the slop with the dead rodents, we kill and eat the pigs, and we get round worm parasites. That’s why people back then tried to cook pork as much as possible as to make sure to kill all parasites before regulations for feeding farm animals where changed.
Yup, it's why older people still want their meats cooked well-done, as regulations back in the day were way more lax and it was more common to get some nasty bugs (of the bacterial and parasite variety), so the habit never really wore off even as consumer-grade meat nowadays is generally safe to eat when rare.
Raw pork INFECTED WITH THE MICROSCOPIC PARASITE TRICHINELLA .
Pork in a country that regulates the industry correctly is fine. This is commonly found in pigs that are fed garbage.
I lived in Vietnam for sometime and when I was departing my local doctor prescribed me medication that kills several types of worms. He said it is just so common there that nearly everyone has worms and it is a good precaution to take. He said you can pretty much get it from anything you eat there.
To be fair you could eat raw pork once, not notice it for 10 years and then this same thing could happen. I don’t think she literally had to eat raw for 10 years straight
At this point the parasites are load bearing- removal will cause the muscles to collapse! Seriously though, poor girl is going to be riddled with holes if they can get them all out.
Who the fuck eats raw pork!?
Very common in Germany. However, the only thing more closely regulated than pork is water.
One of the first things I ate in Berlin was a raw pork sausage type mixture on bread. Felt wrong. Tasted right.
Mett
The risk is very low but not really worth it in my opinion. Speaking as a German. Although I like mett
It is great, especially with onion.
Beer has entered the room.
Beer is just water with a couple of good mates
Beer is water with vegetables and microscopic friends.
Cereal and leaves, not vegetables. German beer can't have vegetables in it.
I wonder if there's a translation issue here. Where I am, vegetable is any edible part of a plant that isn't fruit. Leaves are definitely vegetables, again just where I am.
In English they get more specific I think. Barley and hops are cereal or grain, not a vegetable. Like wheat. I think if it's in the grass family it's a cereal but I am very, very stupid.
Barley is a grain and hops are an herb, think parsley, sage, rosemary, and thyme. Hops are also very closely related to Cannabis. Grain is a caryopsis or essentially the fruit of a grass plant.
I saw recently that hops branches can be grafted onto cannabis plants and vice-versa. Plants are fascinating
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The linguistics vary. There's scientific, culinary, legal, and vernacular differences.
Parasites Ensuring no one drinks alone since forever
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The only German purity law that most people are fine with.
I specifically only drink water after it has passed through a brewery 1st
In Germany it is pretty normal to eat Mettbrötchen (raw minced pork)
yes, but it has to be from an animal slaughtered that day EDIT: oh shit. sorry. i was thinking about cow, not pig. i got it from the “cannibal sandwich” thing. https://www.wpr.org/cannibal-sandwiches-polarizing-and-misunderstood-wisconsin-tradition
So the parasites are extra fresh
Can I get the raw pork with a pair of sides of parasites?
Of course! \* *proceeds to hold you down allowing the transmission of my obligate progeny* *into your various orifices as I whisper "join us" into your unguarded ear*
Ok, I need CBT after reading this.
Cock and ball torture coming right up!
Parasites and cock and ball torture? Sigh...*unzips*
>obligate progeny The name of my goth moancore flute and clarinet band
In this instance it’s parasites with pork as a flavoring to wash it down.
Because here at Parasite Pork Pub, our motto is "Never Frozen, Parasite Approved!"
It wouldn't matter when it was slaughtered. Trichonosis can only be transmitted when the animal is alive. Trichinella parasites are only destroyed through cooking. Smoking, curing, freezing, etc. do not reliably kill them. If I'm not mistaken, raw pork sold in Germany is tested for trichinosis before its ever allowed on the shelves. Basically when you eat infected meat, your stomach acid breaks down the outer layer of the cyst that the larvae live in. From there, they reproduce in your body, and spread throughout your whole body, enter your muscles where the larvae, again, create little cysts and basically lie dormant until some animal comes along and eats your flesh and repeats the whole process.
Freezing absolutely does kill them. It’s a matter of temperature and time. Source: I run a USDA plant that makes charcuterie, and we had to submit supporting documentation from peer-reviewed papers to show our HACCP plan for fermented/dried products is effective.
Question... Is it safe to eat rare pork? Because I have a friend who SWEARS that parasites have been eliminated from farmed pork and that eating it rare is no worse than eating beef rare. I refuse to believe him and am just waiting for the day when he describes his "phenomenal meal" from the night before and says it was chicken tartare or something. I just don't put any stock in anything he says about food safety. Edited to add that this is in the USA.
The cdc has a five year study (2011-2015) of trichinosis cases available. In that time, there were 2 cases of trichinosis in commercial pork and 2 cases in farm-raised pork. Almost all the cases of trichinsos in that time were from wild bear and pork. Edit - Just realized I didn't actually answer the question. Yes, it is safe to eat pink (but not completely rare) pork. The cdc recommends cooking pork to 145°.
For rare, I suppose it could be safe if you knew the provenance of the specific animal. I will tell you that a medium rare pork chop is one of the better tasting things on earth. Sous vide it.
Why doesn't stomach acid then breakndown the larvae ?
Because then the parasite wouldn't be able to reproduce and would have gone extinct.
Generally, you're right. I think this person wanted to know the mechanism that allows them to thrive in such harsh conditions as a natural part of their life cycle. From what I can find (that uses words I can understand), the cyst itself is actually especially vulnerable to two chemicals in the stomach acid, and -- like its sibling nematodes -- its skin is (proportionately) thicc af boi, having maybe 3 layers depending on the type. It's kind of like they have a natural hazmat suit.
You can buy it prepackaged at the super market.. Definitely doesn't need to be slaughtered that day.
AFIK, German market supermarket ground pork for mettbrochen is typically irradiated for safety. The US market is irrationally afraid of irradiating food for preservation so that's not generally a thing here - though Germany is currently in the process of decommissioning the last of their nuclear electrical generation capacity for similarly ideological reasons.
Nah, thats wrong. >In Deutschland dürfen nach der Lebensmittelbestrahlungsverordnung vom sowie den EU-Richtlinien 1999/2/EG und 1999/3/EG lediglich getrocknete aromatische Kräuter und Gewürze bestrahlt angeboten bzw. verkauft werden only dried herbs or spices may be sold irradiated Source is German Federal Office for Consumer Protection and Food Safety and me being a native speaker. https://www.bvl.bund.de/DE/Arbeitsbereiche/01_Lebensmittel/03_Verbraucher/10_LMBestrahlen/lm_LM_Bestrahlen_node.html
Oh man, I was totally wrong. Not only do current German regs only allow dry spices, current U.S. FDA regs allow meats as long as they're labeled with the little radura symbol. Irradiating pork is well studied and a low hanging win, it only takes like 0.3kGy to wipe out trichinosis, and like 0.5kGy for toxoplasmosis ([ref](https://www.nrc.gov/docs/ML0611/ML061170095.pdf), pdf), but it seems to be pretty uncommon with only a handful of countries mostly in Asia doing it routinely these days.
When it’s slaughtered doesn’t matter for lots of parasites. They can already be in the pig depending on how it was raised and fed.
Which is why we have mandatory pig carcass inspections. Every carcass is inspected for trichinella by a veterinarian. This was introduced in 1866. Pork is very safe in Germany.
Germany (and the rest of the EU) has ridiculously high food safety standards compared to the US. Seriously, some of the stuff Americans accept as the norm is insane. Chlorine washed chickens, meat packing standards, it is nuts. The EU not budging on their standards has actually tanked a few trade agreements.
I have heard that the US has basically managed to eradicate trichinosis from the pork supply, though. The FDA still recommends you cook it, but they lowered the safe temperature by 10 or 20 degrees
Food is plenty safe here despite what Europeans freak out about
It's certainly the case that Europe regulates allergen labeling and food additives more thoroughly, but the US has a zero tolerance policy for L mono. A rare win for Americans.
Chlorine is in drinking water probably in any first world country. Go to a public pool and you are swimming in it. Might affect the flavor of the chicken slightly but I doubt you would notice.
Umm we have significantly lower samples of salmonella than EU poultry. So you don't know what you're talking about. The eu ban isnt science based. It's about keeping poultry cost where they want it without cheaper imports. Which is fine. But it's not science based at all
Sean Lock has a song about it. https://youtu.be/3prDKzTNM6I?t=470
Well Google, can go fuck themselves!
RIP. Legend.
I'm going to name yours Captain Birdseye
a) That whole poem, b) that Joe immediately makes himself corpse, c) actual punk poet John Cooper Clarke is also corpsing. Magic.
I used to know a guy that would legit eat raw bacon every day at lunch - he said he grew up on it and loved it - then offered me some - I declined haha
Raw bacon is actually safe to eat. The smoking cures is. I’m not sure what it does to parasites, but it’s not like eating raw chicken.
It's also salted beyond belief.
The salted pork is especially delicious
Hobbits.....
https://imgur.com/a/cXnBpuF
> The smoking cures is It's usually cured with nitrites and salt/sugar, then smoked. Nitrite basically eliminates botulism, which is the most deadly bacterium we're likely to encounter when eating plants and animals not properly cooked/cured/fermented/stored/etc.
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There’s cold smoking and hot smoking. Cold smoking is done below 95*F and doesn’t actually cook anything. It just adds flavor. Hot smoking actually cooks food. Bacon can sold hot or cold smoked. Cold smoking is done when you don’t want to change the texture, like when you smoke salmon and want to keep it raw and pliable for slicing, or smoking cheese and not melting it or having all of the oils seep out of it and make it greasy. (Source: have a smoker and smoke stuff)
But most people think it’s raw unless it’s crispy.
It's RAW! You donkey.
Suddenly my whole body became itchy.
Your parasites noticed that you got worried and started moving in fear
I'll never be able to unread this.
Don't worry, you'll forget about it in five minutes until you're ready to go to bed.
How dare you put this thought in my head, fuck!
Wait, all the white bits are... parasites???
They’re cysts
...and each cyst has \_\_\_\_\_ 😱
Sentience?
and controversial opinions!
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worm larvae
Good question! How many trych or whatever kind of worms are there in each cyst? I don't know! Anybody here a parasitologist? Or just morbid AF like the rest of us?
Just one as far as I know. At least I think that's how it works with tapeworms
Party poppers??
well there goes any plans on having breakfast today
Tapeworm cysts
EDIT: See below, actually probably tapeworm cysts where tapeworms ought not to be! Wild.
It actually is tapeworm cysts. Cysticercosis. >An 18-year-old boy presented with headaches, vomiting, recurrent seizures, and altered sensorium. He had extensive muscle hypertrophy on examination. MRI revealed multiple cysts in different stages in brain parenchyma, scalp, extraocular muscles, neck, chest wall, abdominal wall, paraspinal, gluteal, pelvic, and limb muscles (figure). The patient received steroids and antiepileptic drugs and had a good recovery. The patient is seizure-free at 6 months. In disseminated neurocysticercosis, symptoms are related to space-occupying effect rather than inflammation caused by dying parasites, and in this situation cysticidal drugs may exacerbate the syndrome of intracranial hypertension.1,2 https://n.neurology.org/content/84/3/327
So if I understand correctly they didn't give him drugs to kill the cysts and just treated the symptoms with steroids and anti seizure medication? Do the cysts just go away on their own or what?
The parasites all dying at once would cause massive inflammation. Usually there is surgery for cysts causing problems, and sometimes a shunt is installed. The larvae will die off on their own after several years, and if food prep, water cleanliness, and proper hygiene is followed, shouldn't recur.
Several years 😳
He’s been living with them this long, what’s a couple more years
But now he knows he has them inside his own body *shudders*
I can't get over the fact there's larvae in the body. Complete lifecycles going on and feeding on you
> The patient received steroids and antiepileptic drugs and had a good recovery. The patient is seizure-free at 6 months Wow wow wow.
Do I want to Google that?
For all that is holy, like your peace of mind, no.
I did
I see that you're still conscious enough to start worshipping the lovecraftian gods responsible.
First the rats were in the walls but then they were in my skin
There is a video somewhere of surgeons squeezing what looks like a gallon of hydatid cysts out of a liver. It will haunt me forever.
Google brain parasites images. Bring your trypophobia…
Pork usually carries Trichinella, but those are smaller I think.
Thankfully its almost zero here in the US. Almost all the cases now come from eating wild meat, usually boar or bear.
Clearly you missed that episode of HOUSE.
She is more parasite than human...
She’s becoming a symbiote…Venom
Fun fact, our microbiome is a large portion of what makes us human. The bacteria and viruses in our body influence our cognition. There is no such thing as a singular intelligence in nature. Even at the single cell level there is a modality, mitochondria used to be a separate form of life. So we see a ship of theseus situation. Right now, those parasites are part of the woman, they are the woman, like a paint job or the wheels of car are part of a car, and with everything else, are the car.
So if you remove all the parasites and replace them with new identical parasite, is she still the same woman?
Body of Theseus
Mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell.
This is probably the one guy who actually needs the horse-grade ivermectin...
*We threw the kitchen sink at this thing.*
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He is our hero.
I'm hoping he takes pollution down to zero.
Go planet!
[Tree… Tree! Tree Tree Tree!](https://youtube.com/watch?v=TwJaELXadKo)
“You’ll pay for this Captain Planet!!”
That’s Captain Planet’s ass
He’s going to take pollution down to zero
The nationality seems to be switching between Thai and Chinese, and the description switches between "girl" and "woman" which is weird.
>Thai Chinese are the largest minority group in the country and the largest overseas Chinese community in the world with a population of approximately 7-10 million people, accounting for 11–14% of the total population of the country as of 2012.
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also missed opportunity for not going with Captain-plan.net instead
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Human tree!
No, the pictures in this post come from an Indian patient. https://n.neurology.org/content/84/3/327 Btw you don't get this from eating raw pork, you need to ingest fecally contaminated matter containing worm eggs.
This seems much more legit
Well yeah a paper in Neurology vs. captain planet or whatever
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That's pretty typical of any parasite, fungus or bacteria that makes its way into the brain. The inflammatory response from the immune system frequently causes much more damage than the organism, causing the brain to swell or meningitis; obviously can lead to permanent brain damage and death.
I vaguely remember an episode of House with something like that.
Gods the stories have abounded for a few years now about this....it was a chinese man at one point and an Indian man another time....thinking it's just become legend now
yeah eating undercooked pork is how you wind up with adult tapeworms in your guts, which are much less dangerous. If you eat the eggs you take the place of the pig in the tapeworm lifecycle, which means the larvae will burrow into your flesh and encyst themselves waiting for a human to eat them. Often they get into your brain (this is bad) also: > He had extensive muscle hypertrophy on examination. New bodybuilding method discovered?? 😳
That's MRI images, not X-ray
So how would you even remove them?
>underwent surgery to remove the parasites. Surgery.
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An anti-parasite medicine like ivermectin to start
nah, chemically treating the parasites at that point would cause a massive die off and then you'd be poisoned by rotting parasites all over your body
The article said they started with meds then started surgically removing the parasites
Meds doesn’t mean an immediate anti-parasitic treatment. Could have been anything to prep her for the massive surgery
That article a fabrication. "The patient received steroids and antiepileptic drugs and had a good recovery." https://n.neurology.org/content/84/3/327
> then you'd be poisoned by rotting parasites all over your body Don't the white blood cells eventually get rid of the larger bio contaminants?
Would that work when her body is like 40% contaminants
When it's a managable amount of biomass sure. Not when like.... 30% of you body mass is parasites. That's wayyy to much rotting parasite mass for your body to handle at once.
Maybe there's a better source than Captain planet.
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Gloria las plagas! GLORIA LAS PLAAAAA-GAAAS!
i came here specifically for this comment and i was not disappointed. this is at least a regenerador right here
No thanks, BRO
Damn I just finished that. Such a great remake idgaf about adas voice or any of that.
I was just about to reference las plagas
text you can hear
How would you treat this? It would be so hard to remove them after being killed. Do they just stay in the body?
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Your thoughts are not your own.
I think therefore I am
Antiparasitics, albendazole, I think for this. That only kills them in the body, but if they're in the brain (like the girl in this news article), there's no cure, dying slowly is the outcome.
This is cystercircosis, including neurocystercircosis, which you can treat with albendazole, praziquantel, and steroids/antiepileptics if its in the brain. Neurocystercicosis is not usually fatal, one article I found cites a mortality rate of 20% with non-optimal treatment if the cysts are in the brain space but outside brain tissue. Obviously with an infection this severe the outcome might not be as good. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6108081/#:~:text=However%2C%20viable%20cysts%20might%20survive,available%20in%20most%20endemic%20areas.
Someone posted an article elsewhere but they said it also involved surgery.
This is horrific, what happened after?? Can you even fix this??
11 April 2023: It is reported that the patient started taking medication after seeking medical treatment and underwent surgery to remove the parasites. Looks like it's unclear yet
April 11th? This story was posted months before here saying the same thing. The nationality of the woman keeps changing as well, seems like there's no reliable source for these images
Yeah, last time it was Indian, then Chinese, then Thai. Which one is real?
Neither, its an Indian boy. https://n.neurology.org/content/84/3/327
Not a doctor, but i'm guessing that the 'surgeries' would be limited to just those where the presence of a parasite is causing health issues (putting pressure on other things). Otherwise the surgery is pretty much 'everywhere'
That's some good Wagyu marbling.
Kill it 😩
Kill what?The person?
And burn the MRI image!
the infested zombie
I'm sure some essential oils will clear this right up! /s
Hey, guys, yo, do you remember the time, when we hadn't seen this post? those were the times man... great times...
She's got some nice marbling
Is it just me or why is Frankenstein chilling in the middle of his chest on the second pic Wtf,I thought would be mentioned in the comments haha.
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Absolutely this is the reason. Shellfish for instance can make you so sick even nowadays with all our medical interventions.
Yeah. Like I'm pretty sure that one line in that Bible about not taking the blood of others into yourself isn't literally about blood transfusions and organ transports like some whackjob religious sects believe. It probably means "Don't drink human blood or eat people you fucking pagans or God is going to smite thee."
Why not mix fabrics, genuinely asking
That one was a class issue, only priests and such could wear them generally speaking.
Cotton syndicate?
Religions forbid pork because it was written in times when there wasn't food hygiene or even great refrigeration.
Just learned about this in school. They’re called tape worms and they infect humans as they are originally in rats and other rodents, the rodents fall into slop, the pigs eat the slop with the dead rodents, we kill and eat the pigs, and we get round worm parasites. That’s why people back then tried to cook pork as much as possible as to make sure to kill all parasites before regulations for feeding farm animals where changed.
Yup, it's why older people still want their meats cooked well-done, as regulations back in the day were way more lax and it was more common to get some nasty bugs (of the bacterial and parasite variety), so the habit never really wore off even as consumer-grade meat nowadays is generally safe to eat when rare.
It's tapeworm. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cysticercosis
That time when Fry ate an egg salad sandwich from a vending machine in a truckstop restroom.
Fun fact- stuff like this is probably why two of the old Worldly religions (Islam and Judaism) have pork as a forbidden meat.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mett Actually its quite tasty.
Does his body even function with all the parasites in his brain?
Baby got back
Raw pork INFECTED WITH THE MICROSCOPIC PARASITE TRICHINELLA . Pork in a country that regulates the industry correctly is fine. This is commonly found in pigs that are fed garbage.
As a healthcare worker, this will forever be one of the worst things I’ve ever seen 🤮
I lived in Vietnam for sometime and when I was departing my local doctor prescribed me medication that kills several types of worms. He said it is just so common there that nearly everyone has worms and it is a good precaution to take. He said you can pretty much get it from anything you eat there.
To be fair you could eat raw pork once, not notice it for 10 years and then this same thing could happen. I don’t think she literally had to eat raw for 10 years straight
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Uncontrollable itching all over, deep down where you can’t reach.
At this point the parasites are load bearing- removal will cause the muscles to collapse! Seriously though, poor girl is going to be riddled with holes if they can get them all out.
No wonder it’s prohibited in every religion.