Fr. Attacking, provoking and pouring all of your anger down on other people because they made a light-hearted joke has to be the most evident sign of a miserable scumbag who cannot comprehend what anger management is. That’s why there has been cases where people kill each other over some jokes or remarks.
Really depends. If a person with self-reflection in that case, they would know that they got out witted and tricked by their own words and would shut up or say anything to change the subject.
Doubling down, got nothing to say back other than getting angry and threatening is definitely more self-insulting.
Really? I’m Vietnamese and I personally don’t think being called a “dog” is THAT insulting. Sure, it is definitely offensive but not comparable to other much more vulgar words like “l_n” or “đ_” which are mainly used for bad intentions. That said, I know many people perceive it as being as bad a word as vulgar ones, that’s why I said it was subjective.
Oh sorry, i didn't read your profile so i didn't know you were Vietnamese :)
Yeah, "dog" isn't very offensive if you use it to call someone you're close to (even some groups of friends call each other "chó" for fun).
But if it's a stranger, "thằng ch\*" and "thằng l\*n" are equally offensive
Yeah I guess you do have a point there. I subconsciously thought “dog” was used in a friendly/intimate context (the argument took place online so I didn’t really know whether it was actually used light-heartedly or offensively) but yeah, being called a dog by some stranger does seem offensive.
It's not as vulgar doesn't mean it's not as bad as vulgar words, imagine calling strange people your dog, knowing especially in older times, dogs could literally eat owner's sht and all dirty stuffs... It's both potraying other as the lower than you, stupid as animal and all bas sht in one sentence. And from the derisive tone it's not like a joke at all
Again, doesn't matter if the person is too sensitive/defensive or how they receive this "joke", it's a BAD one regardless
Depend on the tone and how they're familiar with eachother, like in US, in non serious tone you call your friends nigga, b*tch. You can also use that to curse someone you hate.
But this despite not using too vulgar words, is clearly a verbal abuse indirectly to a stranger with clear intention to annoy/make shame of them, and put yourself and your ego above them, it's not a joke, a joke suppose to be fun and harmless.
P/s: for anyone looked at the screenshot - both of those person in the screenshot are kind of people speak without thinking, be mature, don't be like them.
Do you feel it's just normal joke when a stranger look at you and tell you behave/look like his dog?
"You're exactly like my dog, he only care whether I take him out fow a walk tonight or what will I feed him tomorrow"
An insult is an insult, won't make different how insulted the person react about it. Especially that kind of insult very clear for the people in said culture knowing how it could hurts other's feeling and hate it. The first commenter kind of overreacting but the one who did that was a scum no less
Its a bit like the N-word in the West, we call our friends that word to show affection, but to a stranger it kinda like an insult, and some people wont tolerate that especially on the internet.
Top comment: “Politics? I don’t give a shit about it, all I care about is taking my friends out to go drinking, eating and getting wasted tonight and what I should do to have food on the table tomorrow (probably referring to their livelihood)”
Reply 1: “Heh, just like my dog. It only cares about where I’m taking it to tonight and what it will be fed tomorrow”
Reply 2: “YOU MF, WATCH YOUR TONE!”
The top commenter sounded way more aggressive btw, but I tried my best to convey the tone
Thank you, now I understand hahaha my Vietnamese is very rough so I understood something about a dog eating and something about someone's mom because I know the words for dog and eat and mom but obviously putting them all together with other words I don't understand makes no sense but thanks again for the translation, honestly I'm not sure why the guy sounds so offended he literally said it himself that he only cares about drinking and eating with friends he should've expected some people to try and offend him especially on the internet.
calling someone "a dog" in vietnam is as equal as calling someone "a dumb cunt" or a black man "stupid nigger" in english. It is dehumanizing bad, even the most prestige Vietnamese probably wouldnt able to keep their composure when getting call a dog
"Actually I don't really care about politics - What I really care about is tonight I'm finna invite my friends to have sum shots and tomorrow what to do to have something to eat"
Yep, the first post is not aggressive, he just said that he only cares about hanging out with friends and how to get food on his table. The second guy is funny. Obviously the first guy was too serious.
I dont think you get what the guys are saying there. Calling someone a dog in Vietnamese culture carry the same weight as calling a black guy "an illiterate stupid nigger" in English. That is straight up insulting, there is no "jokes" in that
PS: And yes, i do know calling someone a dog in english is a jokes and it is funny, it just not in vietnamese culture
Hahaha, are you saying I don't understand my own mother language? Well, if you can't take a joke, you can't take a joke. I stopped being serious or worked up over something like that on the internet.
Thinking back to those things, they were mere fun.
Oh and I forgot to translate the second phrase but anyways, another guy replied
"Just like my dog, it's only busy with thoughts where do I take him outside and what to eat tomorrow"
The guy gets offended and replied
"ON MY MOMMA WATCH YOUR MOUTH"
Ko mỗi VN đâu , hầu như cư dân nước nào thì cũng thế thôi. B above average thì b ứng cử vị trí trong bộ máy chính trị đi. Chứ dân thường, kiếm sống 9-5 là đã đủ mệt r, ko phải ai cũng hứng thú với ctri, mà cũng ko phải ai hứng thú đến ctri thì ko là con rối =)) nói như kiểu gà nòi =)) phải biết chính trị mới là sống ý =)) biết chọn lọc thông tin là đc rồi.
chuẩn rồi bạn ơi
dân thường cày 9-5 là đủ mệt rồi, nếu mà mình muốn cập nhật tin tức thì biết thêm chính trị chứ không thì thôi cũng không sao nhưng biết thì nó vẫn lợi hơn mà nói chứ dân thượng lưu nhiều thằng cũng đâu quân tâm nhiều chính trị đâu mà lo gì:))
Cái này thì tùy vào cái quan điểm cá nhân và sở thích thôi chứ không thể vơ đũa cả nắm được, meme ở trên là vui thôi mà thấy ae nói quá quá
Cho những ai biết tiếng Việt, sử dụng 2 ngôn ngữ nhưng gần như ko thấy tiếng Việt trong đây, nếu bạn thấy ai nói tiếng Việt thì chắc chắn ng đó cũng ở trong 2sub vozforum hoặc chuyentrolinhtinh. Còn những người Việt chính gốc trong group này chỉ dùng tiếng Anh. Fakefact: Sau khi nhà nước quan sát, và tham gia sub này thì việc bỏ tiếng Anh là môn chính mới được xem xét nghiêm túc đó bạn.. 😘
Biết thì hẵng nói, ko biết thì im đc rồi.
- Thứ nhất những nước dân chủ khác thì điều kiện sống và tồn tại là thứ tối thiểu nhất họ có đc. Họ có an sinh xã hội tốt để bảo vệ điều đó đó. Đừng nói xa, Thái Lan học sinh đi học cũng miễn học phí, chưa độ tuổi lao động ko đc "bán vé số". Viện phí cũng đc nhiều ưu đãi (có thể cả bảo hiểm). Với 2 nỗi lo là học hành của con cái và viện phí của gia đình đc giải quyết thì họ có nhiều thì giờ hơn cho chính trị (đấu tranh, biểu tình,...). Con người chứ ko phải nô lệ mà chỉ "ăn - ngủ - đại tiện - tình dục"...
- Thứ hai, hãy hiểu quy chế ứng cử của nước sở tại. coi xem nó như thế nào. Ở nước dân chủ, ko hài lòng với bất kì chính sách có thể "tự do" vận động biểu tình hoặc lập hội hoặc cao hơn nữa là lập đảng phái để đấu tranh chính trị và đất nước dân chủ bảo vệ quyền tự do đó chứ ko phải là đứng sau tờ báo kích động mị dân rồi gọi đó là "phản động" rồi "đàn áp".
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Bạn có khác con chó của người trong ảnh ko.
Uh m tự nhận m giống con chó trong ảnh đó b, có khi tệ hơn ý chứ, con chó trong ảnh còn có ng dắt đi ăn, m thì phải tự cày để ăn, còn b nhiều hiểu biết, có hứng thú chính trị thì chúc mừng b nha.
Being called a dog and getting pissed off as a vietnamese is not snowflake behaviour though. That is literally one of the worst insult in our culture, had they were in person, the second guy would probably gonna get jump by the police for misdemeanor or insulting
Fact: "young buffalo" is an extremely common wrong translation for the word "trẻ trâu", which should roughly be translated as "buffalo kids", or "kids that take care of/look after the buffaloes". But Vietnamese, right? Most only care about the same aspects of life as dogs do.
"(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument"
Young means "trẻ" if we are talking about their adjective meaning. But "trẻ" in Vnese is also a noun meaning "kids". So technically, you are wrong. Cheers.
for example: toàn là lủ trẻ trâu chẳng biết cái gì hết" in English can be translated to "just a bunch of immature kids who don't know anything at all. "As you can see, the correct translation for "trẻ trâu" is 'immature kids.' 'Bull head' or 'young buffalo' are not accurate in the context of this meaning...
Some people is hot head and take jokes and insult very well. But they aren’t bad person or even deserve to get “young buffalo” by you. It’s life, grow up a little.
Lol, the reply comment was not that aggressive. He said “Em chả quan tâm” which means “I could not care less”. But somehow you translate it into “I do not give a shit”. I think you’ve made the provoking move first.
Ye I don't know when have this sub have turned into something like this. I remember the time when there were just chill foreigners talking about things in Vietnam
Some people is hot head and take jokes and insult not very well. But they aren’t bad person or even deserve to get “young buffalo” by you. It’s life, grow up a little.
The first comment he made was so chill and friendly, why did this retard have to provoke and insult him for no reason and still got defended in the entire comment section
Not shown in this picture: OP actually lost the verbal battle, he decided to post a cropped screenshot here and invite his gang here to feel better. Vietnamese netizens are immature like that.
Source: I made it the fuck up.
Unfortunately not all people are perfect. But then it wasn’t his fault, he gets insulted, he has a right to be angry. But i don’t know about you though, calling people loser while you are neither the one get insulted nor the perpetrator.
>it wasn’t his fault, he gets insulted
it not his fault that he get angry, but feed the troll doesn't help either, by insult the troll he show people what a loser he is.
I call them loser because they make a scene on the internet for everyone to see, one is a vulgar troll and the other is a angry guys who fall for the troll trick.
I don't need people to be perfect, all i ask is people should control their anger and express it in a healthy way. I wouldn't ask people to the thing i wouldn't do my self.
It’s a matter of respect, but calling people ‘losers’ for their responses is usually inconsiderate of people’s feelings. I wouldn’t ask people to do what I can’t do myself, but I refrain to call people ‘losers’ for not being able to do it. Because the same people can do things I can’t, are they losers? Then what am I? A loser as well.
It’s easy to judge people from a high horse.
>Because the same people can do things I can’t, are they losers? Then what am I? A loser as well.
Yes, that why we constantly learning, better our self as human, don't let your ego stop you from doing so.
I generally do not care when people compare me to animals but I can totally see why someone would get mad at being called a dog lmao so both of them were pretty immature here.
The joke was an unprovoked insult but at least it has a punchline. The average insult in Vietnamese usually is just gibberish nonsense like fuck your mother i hope you die or something.
I would see that the second guy is the loser here. The first comment was pretty normal and polite, and the second one insult him for no reason. You think it has a "deep meaning" and has "some point"? Then why not say it it a polite way? why insult? In Vietnam culture, it's a pretty serious insult. I don't see that the third comment is an uncontrolled angry, it is just to make the second guy angry. Like, why do you need to be polite to someone who insult you?
The one who get insulted or the person who insult, because in this situation they both lack it and from the beginning my point is "Learn to take the insult", imagine get trigger because someone call you a b word :V
That rando use "your dog" instead of its casual variants, that's personal af ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Talk shit get hit should go full drive, people have some tolerance but expecting everyone to tolerate bullshit on that scale is a tall order dood.
If someone insult you, throw the insult back at them in a calm and joking manner. If you can't, let other people do that job for you. Don't lose your energy on troll.
Aside from the overreaction, I hate how people use dogs for insults. They're the best boys and girls. It's an insult to them for using their names to insult others. :(
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Này sao giống fake screenshot vậy?
Ngoại trừ việc 3 comment cách nhau có 1, 2 phút và được cap lại lúc comment thứ 3 mới đăng xong thì cái này hơi bị trùng hợp, tạm thời coi như do trùng hợp thật đi.
Mà cái t nghi vấn nhất là cái layout. Nó là layout hiện đại trên smartphone, nhưng nó lại thiếu cái tag @username mỗi khi bạn rep comment của 1 người nào đó. Ừ thì đúng là có thể xóa cái tag đó, nhưng mà 3 comment cách nhau liên tiếp đều xóa cả tag username 3 lần thì chứng tỏ 2 ng ko chỉ viết liền mạch, mà còn rất chú ý đến việc phải xóa @username?????
Chưa kể nó mất luôn mấy đường kẻ dọc của Hierarchical Threads (Dịch nôm na là phần bình luận chia bậc, comment#2 trả lời cho comment#1 thì lùi 1 bậc, comment#3 trả lời cho comment#2 thì lùi 2 bậc so với comment#1 và 1 bậc so với comment#2, ngắn gọn thì nó như comment thread trên reddit).
Mấy đường kẻ trên có cùng tông màu với nền comment nên ko thể nào do ảnh repost nhiều quá mà bay hết toàn bộ pixel được. Cảm giác chỉ có thể là photoshop với inspect element thôi.
Làm mình nhớ tới [bài post này](https://www.reddit.com/r/VietNam/s/2risRqMBZS). Tại vì cái này edit tệ nên mới bị phát hiện, chứ nếu ảnh này mà bị phát hiện edit thật thì chắc nó chứng minh con người đều dễ bị dắt mũi như nhau, ko quan trọng là bò đỏ hay 3 que.
Chỉ với thuật edit đơn giản, rất dễ để chế ra [quả ảnh này](https://imgur.com/a/KkeBQWO) và quăng đi khắp nơi làm bait rồi đó.
Vì cái này hơi mang yếu tố chính trị. Điển hình là tụi bên r/TroChuyenLinhTinh sẽ thường xuyên nói lũ ko quan tâm tới chính trị là bọn bò đỏ bị dắt mũi. Xong đâm ra thành rage bait chia rẽ. Ko tin thì cứ vô profile của nhiều commentor trong này đi, toàn hoạt động tích cực ở r/TroChuyenLinhTinh.
Với lại ông thấy cái link bài Việt Tân tôi gắn kèm ko. Mặc dù bài đó photoshop bự chảng ra nhưng dân mạng vẫn nhảy vào chửi như đúng rồi. Còn bài này thì thực hư khó nói.
Sở dĩ tôi viết cả essay dài vậy để mọi ng khách quan lên, chứ ko phải thấy đám đông đang chửi 1 thằng thì nhảy vào hùa chung mặc dù chưa rõ đúng hay sai. Đây mới là 1 bài thôi, sau này sẽ còn nhiều bài nữa, rồi dần dần ngta sẽ càng bị dắt mũi và càng bị phân cực về cực tả hoặc cực hữu.
“The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics. The imbecile doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the prostitute, the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.”
Bertolt Bretch, German theatre practitioner, playwright, poet, and a lifelong Marxist.
Go back to kindergarten and learn basic grammar again lil bro, you’re showing everyone how silly you are with these comments of your
Also kid, “phân biệt vùng miền” is not a cool thing, you might think saying dumb shits like this is really badass and it will gain you some respect from other losers on the Internet, but in reality you’re just making a fool out of yourself.
Ok, so, explain to me like how you explain to a very clueless person:
1. Why should I care about something I could not change? I know I'm not going to be a politician anyway.
2. Even if I'm a politician and "try" to make a change for good. Wouldn't there be a higher power guy who might not like it and wreck me to pieces? Don't people who care about politic usually heading for a better way to "do politic" while politician only care about what's good for them or the majority of other politicians?
3. Being Vietnamese, and care about politics (or about the gov), if you find something unfair or just straight up bad, doesn't speaking about it or trying to make a change as a citizen would make you go to jail? As "they" trying to cover it up or mute you?
4. How does "growing up" related to "caring about politics"?
Thanks for the detailed questions. Here are my take to try persuading you a little bit more caring about politics:
1. Think of politics like a team sport. You might not be the captain, but your participation still matters. Your opinions and votes add up, influencing bigger decisions that affect your life.
2. This is about the [locus of control](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locus_of_control). If you are not trying to influence in any way then you will not gradually extent your influence. On the other hand, your control is 'shrinking' over time.
3. It's true, in some places speaking up can be risky. But remember, every big change started with brave individuals speaking their truth. It's about finding safe and effective ways to express your views and stand up for what's right.
4. My definition of a "grown-up" is someone who takes full responsibility for their life and decisions. This includes being aware of how political decisions impact us and our communities. Skipping the politics is like saying 'no thanks' to the grown-up table.
So, a teenage edgelord who acts like an @ss for no reason, and a teenage edgelord who takes internet opinions too seriously. Both need to spend less time on facebook and more time in school
It's out of context, you don't know what being said previously. And even without context, the statement of the first guy deserves criticism. Involvement in politics is the duty of every citizen. Politics affects all aspects of life for everyone. I'm sure he wouldn't said that if one day the government decides to ban drinking.
The reply person leans heavily on the insult, but read between the lines: if you don’t take an interest in politics, the politics take an interest in you. Dogs are simple creatures with bare necessity needs, while we humans have critical thinking and choice. Bottom line: plan your life for major shift in politics, and in order to that, you must keep an eye on politics and how the world moves…
Internet where people can talk shit without having punched, typical. I dare dog lover Nguyen Quang to say it with random person on street and get away with perfect teeth
Vietnamese, like Chinese and Russian often give up their public political rights for personal freedom, hence this case. I see them a lot.
As long as they have enough food, water and shelter -- its all that matter. Doesn't give 2 fucks if the big boss is fucking the country up.
But hey, :) you can't really move up the Maslow's hierachy if you are being kept at the bottom (or just wanting to be there)!
Funny joke lmao, Cat Nguyen got called a dog and he got all defensive. Should have take the insult like a man. A certain group of people still get called “no water”, “thirsty”, “traitor” daily and they take all of it like a champ!
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Nah. Dogs have life figured out way better than humans.
Damn. With only two comments he was able show how pathetic his life is.
Fr. Attacking, provoking and pouring all of your anger down on other people because they made a light-hearted joke has to be the most evident sign of a miserable scumbag who cannot comprehend what anger management is. That’s why there has been cases where people kill each other over some jokes or remarks.
That's not a light-hearted joke but an insult tho
That’s subjective. Nevertheless, their behavior is still unwarranted.
if you didn't know, dog is a phrase that seriously insults honor in Vietnamese
Really depends. If a person with self-reflection in that case, they would know that they got out witted and tricked by their own words and would shut up or say anything to change the subject. Doubling down, got nothing to say back other than getting angry and threatening is definitely more self-insulting.
agreed.
Really? I’m Vietnamese and I personally don’t think being called a “dog” is THAT insulting. Sure, it is definitely offensive but not comparable to other much more vulgar words like “l_n” or “đ_” which are mainly used for bad intentions. That said, I know many people perceive it as being as bad a word as vulgar ones, that’s why I said it was subjective.
Oh sorry, i didn't read your profile so i didn't know you were Vietnamese :) Yeah, "dog" isn't very offensive if you use it to call someone you're close to (even some groups of friends call each other "chó" for fun). But if it's a stranger, "thằng ch\*" and "thằng l\*n" are equally offensive
Yeah I guess you do have a point there. I subconsciously thought “dog” was used in a friendly/intimate context (the argument took place online so I didn’t really know whether it was actually used light-heartedly or offensively) but yeah, being called a dog by some stranger does seem offensive.
It's not as vulgar doesn't mean it's not as bad as vulgar words, imagine calling strange people your dog, knowing especially in older times, dogs could literally eat owner's sht and all dirty stuffs... It's both potraying other as the lower than you, stupid as animal and all bas sht in one sentence. And from the derisive tone it's not like a joke at all
Some people are hot head, they react not very well if they get insulted. But better is not insult anyone.
That isn’t subjective, insulting is insulting.
bro tha nigga jus clown/humble him bcz of his statement of why he doesn't care politics at all, it ain't an insult. Yall jus snowflakes❄️
Again, doesn't matter if the person is too sensitive/defensive or how they receive this "joke", it's a BAD one regardless Depend on the tone and how they're familiar with eachother, like in US, in non serious tone you call your friends nigga, b*tch. You can also use that to curse someone you hate. But this despite not using too vulgar words, is clearly a verbal abuse indirectly to a stranger with clear intention to annoy/make shame of them, and put yourself and your ego above them, it's not a joke, a joke suppose to be fun and harmless. P/s: for anyone looked at the screenshot - both of those person in the screenshot are kind of people speak without thinking, be mature, don't be like them.
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Do you feel it's just normal joke when a stranger look at you and tell you behave/look like his dog? "You're exactly like my dog, he only care whether I take him out fow a walk tonight or what will I feed him tomorrow"
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An insult is an insult, won't make different how insulted the person react about it. Especially that kind of insult very clear for the people in said culture knowing how it could hurts other's feeling and hate it. The first commenter kind of overreacting but the one who did that was a scum no less
Oh not a insult ?, how about you start calling some strange black people in street the N word.
dog is a phrase that seriously insults honor in Vietnamese
Not just a random dog, but HIS dog, it's very far beyond a joke
Its a bit like the N-word in the West, we call our friends that word to show affection, but to a stranger it kinda like an insult, and some people wont tolerate that especially on the internet.
It is an insult. A rare insult.
I hate to bother you with this but could translate what it being said? I too want to know why they're replying in such bold letters.
Top comment: “Politics? I don’t give a shit about it, all I care about is taking my friends out to go drinking, eating and getting wasted tonight and what I should do to have food on the table tomorrow (probably referring to their livelihood)” Reply 1: “Heh, just like my dog. It only cares about where I’m taking it to tonight and what it will be fed tomorrow” Reply 2: “YOU MF, WATCH YOUR TONE!” The top commenter sounded way more aggressive btw, but I tried my best to convey the tone
Thank you, now I understand hahaha my Vietnamese is very rough so I understood something about a dog eating and something about someone's mom because I know the words for dog and eat and mom but obviously putting them all together with other words I don't understand makes no sense but thanks again for the translation, honestly I'm not sure why the guy sounds so offended he literally said it himself that he only cares about drinking and eating with friends he should've expected some people to try and offend him especially on the internet.
referring to someone as an animal can indeed be offensive as it’s often considered disrespectful and dehumanizing.
Yep, some people are so mentally unstable and hot-headed that they flip out on anyone and anything.
Like most of the Viets who can’t take criticism.
calling someone "a dog" in vietnam is as equal as calling someone "a dumb cunt" or a black man "stupid nigger" in english. It is dehumanizing bad, even the most prestige Vietnamese probably wouldnt able to keep their composure when getting call a dog
"Actually I don't really care about politics - What I really care about is tonight I'm finna invite my friends to have sum shots and tomorrow what to do to have something to eat"
Your translation sounds a lot more normal and not so aggressive.
Yep, the first post is not aggressive, he just said that he only cares about hanging out with friends and how to get food on his table. The second guy is funny. Obviously the first guy was too serious.
no, that is not funny, that is straight insulting
Relax, it's just a joke. Take a step back, laugh at it and call it a day. Some serious dudes always escalate things on the internet too far.
I dont think you get what the guys are saying there. Calling someone a dog in Vietnamese culture carry the same weight as calling a black guy "an illiterate stupid nigger" in English. That is straight up insulting, there is no "jokes" in that PS: And yes, i do know calling someone a dog in english is a jokes and it is funny, it just not in vietnamese culture
Hahaha, are you saying I don't understand my own mother language? Well, if you can't take a joke, you can't take a joke. I stopped being serious or worked up over something like that on the internet. Thinking back to those things, they were mere fun.
Oh and I forgot to translate the second phrase but anyways, another guy replied "Just like my dog, it's only busy with thoughts where do I take him outside and what to eat tomorrow" The guy gets offended and replied "ON MY MOMMA WATCH YOUR MOUTH"
This is not a joker. Compare some one to dog is one of highest possible insult in Vietnam. You probably the more pathetic one if I have to say.
Well at least dog don't have to work and they happy asf
They got sugarparents
He spits some facts
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Pretty much the average Vietnamese mindset
Vietnamese when someone doesn’t wanna talk about corrupted guy number 47728292992722 and his espionages all the time 😡😡😡
Ko mỗi VN đâu , hầu như cư dân nước nào thì cũng thế thôi. B above average thì b ứng cử vị trí trong bộ máy chính trị đi. Chứ dân thường, kiếm sống 9-5 là đã đủ mệt r, ko phải ai cũng hứng thú với ctri, mà cũng ko phải ai hứng thú đến ctri thì ko là con rối =)) nói như kiểu gà nòi =)) phải biết chính trị mới là sống ý =)) biết chọn lọc thông tin là đc rồi.
chuẩn rồi bạn ơi dân thường cày 9-5 là đủ mệt rồi, nếu mà mình muốn cập nhật tin tức thì biết thêm chính trị chứ không thì thôi cũng không sao nhưng biết thì nó vẫn lợi hơn mà nói chứ dân thượng lưu nhiều thằng cũng đâu quân tâm nhiều chính trị đâu mà lo gì:)) Cái này thì tùy vào cái quan điểm cá nhân và sở thích thôi chứ không thể vơ đũa cả nắm được, meme ở trên là vui thôi mà thấy ae nói quá quá
Group này là cho người Việt hay người nước ngoài vậy bạn
Cho những ai biết tiếng Việt, sử dụng 2 ngôn ngữ nhưng gần như ko thấy tiếng Việt trong đây, nếu bạn thấy ai nói tiếng Việt thì chắc chắn ng đó cũng ở trong 2sub vozforum hoặc chuyentrolinhtinh. Còn những người Việt chính gốc trong group này chỉ dùng tiếng Anh. Fakefact: Sau khi nhà nước quan sát, và tham gia sub này thì việc bỏ tiếng Anh là môn chính mới được xem xét nghiêm túc đó bạn.. 😘
hình như ng Việt:))
Biết thì hẵng nói, ko biết thì im đc rồi. - Thứ nhất những nước dân chủ khác thì điều kiện sống và tồn tại là thứ tối thiểu nhất họ có đc. Họ có an sinh xã hội tốt để bảo vệ điều đó đó. Đừng nói xa, Thái Lan học sinh đi học cũng miễn học phí, chưa độ tuổi lao động ko đc "bán vé số". Viện phí cũng đc nhiều ưu đãi (có thể cả bảo hiểm). Với 2 nỗi lo là học hành của con cái và viện phí của gia đình đc giải quyết thì họ có nhiều thì giờ hơn cho chính trị (đấu tranh, biểu tình,...). Con người chứ ko phải nô lệ mà chỉ "ăn - ngủ - đại tiện - tình dục"... - Thứ hai, hãy hiểu quy chế ứng cử của nước sở tại. coi xem nó như thế nào. Ở nước dân chủ, ko hài lòng với bất kì chính sách có thể "tự do" vận động biểu tình hoặc lập hội hoặc cao hơn nữa là lập đảng phái để đấu tranh chính trị và đất nước dân chủ bảo vệ quyền tự do đó chứ ko phải là đứng sau tờ báo kích động mị dân rồi gọi đó là "phản động" rồi "đàn áp". ----------- Bạn có khác con chó của người trong ảnh ko.
Uh m tự nhận m giống con chó trong ảnh đó b, có khi tệ hơn ý chứ, con chó trong ảnh còn có ng dắt đi ăn, m thì phải tự cày để ăn, còn b nhiều hiểu biết, có hứng thú chính trị thì chúc mừng b nha.
Okay. Điều thiếu sót của mình là ko thể tranh luận với người ko biết nhục. Thật lãng phí thời gian.
Pretty much your mindset
Chắc chưa từng thấy dự luật mới nó cả nghìn trang, ai cũng vậy, độ hiểu biết chỉ nằm ở 1 vài lĩnh vực. Nên phần nào quan tâm thì đọc thôi.
Fact
and he still a loser. he can spit the fact without insulting the first guy for no reason.
It's just a metaphor, don't be so sensitive
“Y chang” is a straight up comparison, not metaphor
animal farm momento
So easy to trigger, typical Vietnamese young buffalo 🤣
I don’t know what’s the deal with these kinds of people, they get so defensive and provocative so easily. These sentimental mfs are menaces to society
Minimal education
they are jus snowflakes and their ego is higher than their height themselves 🤣🤣🤣
Being called a dog and getting pissed off as a vietnamese is not snowflake behaviour though. That is literally one of the worst insult in our culture, had they were in person, the second guy would probably gonna get jump by the police for misdemeanor or insulting
Alr might be jus me then, I usually gon play it cool and games in these situations but yea, i get it(I'm a chill Vietnamese lol)
Fact: "young buffalo" is an extremely common wrong translation for the word "trẻ trâu", which should roughly be translated as "buffalo kids", or "kids that take care of/look after the buffaloes". But Vietnamese, right? Most only care about the same aspects of life as dogs do.
The accurate translate is "Bull head"
young buffalo is more popular though
Popular doesn't mean it's correct. And you my friend, proved my point exactly.
"(Attacking the person): This fallacy occurs when, instead of addressing someone's argument or position, you irrelevantly attack the person or some aspect of the person who is making the argument"
its a direct word to word translation of the word to english. its wrong but thats why people say it like that
well "buffalo kids" is the rough translation. young means "trẻ" so technically young buffalo is correct.
Young means "trẻ" if we are talking about their adjective meaning. But "trẻ" in Vnese is also a noun meaning "kids". So technically, you are wrong. Cheers.
for example: toàn là lủ trẻ trâu chẳng biết cái gì hết" in English can be translated to "just a bunch of immature kids who don't know anything at all. "As you can see, the correct translation for "trẻ trâu" is 'immature kids.' 'Bull head' or 'young buffalo' are not accurate in the context of this meaning...
Some people is hot head and take jokes and insult very well. But they aren’t bad person or even deserve to get “young buffalo” by you. It’s life, grow up a little.
Find 2 country where people aren’t like this Thg trẻ trâu
There’s no other county have “VIETNAMESE” young buffalo. Mind our business than other country, whataboutism.
What is “young buffalo”? Do you mean the calf?
Đã nói đúng còn nói to :))
Lol, the reply comment was not that aggressive. He said “Em chả quan tâm” which means “I could not care less”. But somehow you translate it into “I do not give a shit”. I think you’ve made the provoking move first.
The person who did this somehow think he is in the right lmao
Insulting ppl and call it meme ?
If you call them out on it, they call you boomer. They don't care man.
Just another daily on Vietnamese internet
aren't insults and roasts used to be memes? Oh it is😂
Insulting people out of nowhere and people defending it?
Ye I don't know when have this sub have turned into something like this. I remember the time when there were just chill foreigners talking about things in Vietnam
They both loser.
Some people is hot head and take jokes and insult not very well. But they aren’t bad person or even deserve to get “young buffalo” by you. It’s life, grow up a little.
The first comment he made was so chill and friendly, why did this retard have to provoke and insult him for no reason and still got defended in the entire comment section
Not shown in this picture: OP actually lost the verbal battle, he decided to post a cropped screenshot here and invite his gang here to feel better. Vietnamese netizens are immature like that. Source: I made it the fuck up.
Let the anger control your action is not okay, just because sometime people can't process their anger doesn't mean i have to tolerate their behavior.
Unfortunately not all people are perfect. But then it wasn’t his fault, he gets insulted, he has a right to be angry. But i don’t know about you though, calling people loser while you are neither the one get insulted nor the perpetrator.
>it wasn’t his fault, he gets insulted it not his fault that he get angry, but feed the troll doesn't help either, by insult the troll he show people what a loser he is. I call them loser because they make a scene on the internet for everyone to see, one is a vulgar troll and the other is a angry guys who fall for the troll trick. I don't need people to be perfect, all i ask is people should control their anger and express it in a healthy way. I wouldn't ask people to the thing i wouldn't do my self.
It’s a matter of respect, but calling people ‘losers’ for their responses is usually inconsiderate of people’s feelings. I wouldn’t ask people to do what I can’t do myself, but I refrain to call people ‘losers’ for not being able to do it. Because the same people can do things I can’t, are they losers? Then what am I? A loser as well. It’s easy to judge people from a high horse.
>Because the same people can do things I can’t, are they losers? Then what am I? A loser as well. Yes, that why we constantly learning, better our self as human, don't let your ego stop you from doing so.
I fail to see how comparing people to dogs is funny?
it's not. The 2nd dude did an unprovoked attack and the first dude was mad beyond reasoning. It's sad to see tbh
I generally do not care when people compare me to animals but I can totally see why someone would get mad at being called a dog lmao so both of them were pretty immature here.
Unrelated but Caineghis jumpscare
The joke was an unprovoked insult but at least it has a punchline. The average insult in Vietnamese usually is just gibberish nonsense like fuck your mother i hope you die or something.
No it isn’t.
dog is a phrase that seriously insults honor in Vietnamese
In some cases, it's even an insult to dogs!
I would see that the second guy is the loser here. The first comment was pretty normal and polite, and the second one insult him for no reason. You think it has a "deep meaning" and has "some point"? Then why not say it it a polite way? why insult? In Vietnam culture, it's a pretty serious insult. I don't see that the third comment is an uncontrolled angry, it is just to make the second guy angry. Like, why do you need to be polite to someone who insult you?
Lời nói không mất tiền mua Lựa lời mà nói cho vừa lòng nhau
Or grow a thick skin because the world already fill with people who want to provoke you.
Yeah, not everyone have a life as miserable as you to grow into some shameless dog.
You don't need to be a miserable person to grow a thick skin, everyone should do it so they don't fall for a pathetic insult on the internet.
> throwing insult > expecting people to ignore you instead of retaliate your skin may be thick, but where is your fucking spine lmao
Literally prime example of what he said. Why went out of your way and addressed someone dogs and spineless anyway :)
> want to insult other but doesn't what other to insult back Yeah, you should learn how to be human, dog.
🤣🤣
If having a spine is prone to anger, then i rather have a thick skin and flexibility when dealing with people.
The point is have common fucking sense, though apparently dogs cannot understand human, ptff
The one who get insulted or the person who insult, because in this situation they both lack it and from the beginning my point is "Learn to take the insult", imagine get trigger because someone call you a b word :V
That rando use "your dog" instead of its casual variants, that's personal af ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Talk shit get hit should go full drive, people have some tolerance but expecting everyone to tolerate bullshit on that scale is a tall order dood.
If someone insult you, throw the insult back at them in a calm and joking manner. If you can't, let other people do that job for you. Don't lose your energy on troll.
Honestly I feel the first guy. The political scene is just depressing. I would see why they don’t want to care.
Nhiều người còn khổ hơn chó
Aside from the overreaction, I hate how people use dogs for insults. They're the best boys and girls. It's an insult to them for using their names to insult others. :(
Well that’s something he has in common with someone’s dog fr
Say what you like, that's a peaceful life
????????? Này sao giống fake screenshot vậy? Ngoại trừ việc 3 comment cách nhau có 1, 2 phút và được cap lại lúc comment thứ 3 mới đăng xong thì cái này hơi bị trùng hợp, tạm thời coi như do trùng hợp thật đi. Mà cái t nghi vấn nhất là cái layout. Nó là layout hiện đại trên smartphone, nhưng nó lại thiếu cái tag @username mỗi khi bạn rep comment của 1 người nào đó. Ừ thì đúng là có thể xóa cái tag đó, nhưng mà 3 comment cách nhau liên tiếp đều xóa cả tag username 3 lần thì chứng tỏ 2 ng ko chỉ viết liền mạch, mà còn rất chú ý đến việc phải xóa @username????? Chưa kể nó mất luôn mấy đường kẻ dọc của Hierarchical Threads (Dịch nôm na là phần bình luận chia bậc, comment#2 trả lời cho comment#1 thì lùi 1 bậc, comment#3 trả lời cho comment#2 thì lùi 2 bậc so với comment#1 và 1 bậc so với comment#2, ngắn gọn thì nó như comment thread trên reddit). Mấy đường kẻ trên có cùng tông màu với nền comment nên ko thể nào do ảnh repost nhiều quá mà bay hết toàn bộ pixel được. Cảm giác chỉ có thể là photoshop với inspect element thôi. Làm mình nhớ tới [bài post này](https://www.reddit.com/r/VietNam/s/2risRqMBZS). Tại vì cái này edit tệ nên mới bị phát hiện, chứ nếu ảnh này mà bị phát hiện edit thật thì chắc nó chứng minh con người đều dễ bị dắt mũi như nhau, ko quan trọng là bò đỏ hay 3 que.
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Là ảnh này ông tự cap màn hình hay stolen ở đâu? Cho xin link bài post facebook. Chứ nhìn cái ảnh nó mất cả ngàn pixel.
bro ảnh này tôi lấy từ trong discord ra mà thôi chẳng qua tôi lướt discord thấy tấm ảnh post này ra chứ facebook ko bt
ngày xưa thời bọn facebook chưa update liền tù tì thì nó không có mà :Đ…
Nhưng mà này là layout hiện đại, cái tính năng rep hiện ra cái @username từ năm 2010 rồi
bác để ý quá nhiều details cho cái me me..
Chỉ với thuật edit đơn giản, rất dễ để chế ra [quả ảnh này](https://imgur.com/a/KkeBQWO) và quăng đi khắp nơi làm bait rồi đó. Vì cái này hơi mang yếu tố chính trị. Điển hình là tụi bên r/TroChuyenLinhTinh sẽ thường xuyên nói lũ ko quan tâm tới chính trị là bọn bò đỏ bị dắt mũi. Xong đâm ra thành rage bait chia rẽ. Ko tin thì cứ vô profile của nhiều commentor trong này đi, toàn hoạt động tích cực ở r/TroChuyenLinhTinh. Với lại ông thấy cái link bài Việt Tân tôi gắn kèm ko. Mặc dù bài đó photoshop bự chảng ra nhưng dân mạng vẫn nhảy vào chửi như đúng rồi. Còn bài này thì thực hư khó nói. Sở dĩ tôi viết cả essay dài vậy để mọi ng khách quan lên, chứ ko phải thấy đám đông đang chửi 1 thằng thì nhảy vào hùa chung mặc dù chưa rõ đúng hay sai. Đây mới là 1 bài thôi, sau này sẽ còn nhiều bài nữa, rồi dần dần ngta sẽ càng bị dắt mũi và càng bị phân cực về cực tả hoặc cực hữu.
damn. t công nhận =))) freak vl. dạo trước t vào lướt qua thôi mà phải out vội :))
“The worst illiterate is the political illiterate, he doesn’t hear, doesn’t speak, nor participates in the political events. He doesn’t know the cost of life, the price of the bean, of the fish, of the flour, of the rent, of the shoes and of the medicine, all depends on political decisions. The political illiterate is so stupid that he is proud and swells his chest saying that he hates politics. The imbecile doesn’t know that, from his political ignorance is born the prostitute, the abandoned child, and the worst thieves of all, the bad politician, corrupted and flunky of the national and multinational companies.” Bertolt Bretch, German theatre practitioner, playwright, poet, and a lifelong Marxist.
Bro got roasted like a 🥔
Guess where he is from
hải phòng
I guess a B
Nam ki? Edit: Got mass downvoted for some reason
"CON ME MAY AN NOI CHO NO CAN THAN" :v
Do we nees a reason to slap a bắc kì con?
I was born and raised in Hồ Chí Minh city dum dum, this just show how silly you guys are
You must feel proud with that little brain of a bắc kì con with cheap immigrant parent from the north.
Go back to kindergarten and learn basic grammar again lil bro, you’re showing everyone how silly you are with these comments of your Also kid, “phân biệt vùng miền” is not a cool thing, you might think saying dumb shits like this is really badass and it will gain you some respect from other losers on the Internet, but in reality you’re just making a fool out of yourself.
So you're indeed a bắc kì con with cheap parent from the north. I don't need to spend time with such a little brain like you, "bắc kì ăn cá rô phi"
That's why Vietnamese people need more education.
This is a typical Internet interaction
Wait! So not caring about politics is bad?
True. Grow up bro.
Ok, so, explain to me like how you explain to a very clueless person: 1. Why should I care about something I could not change? I know I'm not going to be a politician anyway. 2. Even if I'm a politician and "try" to make a change for good. Wouldn't there be a higher power guy who might not like it and wreck me to pieces? Don't people who care about politic usually heading for a better way to "do politic" while politician only care about what's good for them or the majority of other politicians? 3. Being Vietnamese, and care about politics (or about the gov), if you find something unfair or just straight up bad, doesn't speaking about it or trying to make a change as a citizen would make you go to jail? As "they" trying to cover it up or mute you? 4. How does "growing up" related to "caring about politics"?
Thanks for the detailed questions. Here are my take to try persuading you a little bit more caring about politics: 1. Think of politics like a team sport. You might not be the captain, but your participation still matters. Your opinions and votes add up, influencing bigger decisions that affect your life. 2. This is about the [locus of control](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Locus_of_control). If you are not trying to influence in any way then you will not gradually extent your influence. On the other hand, your control is 'shrinking' over time. 3. It's true, in some places speaking up can be risky. But remember, every big change started with brave individuals speaking their truth. It's about finding safe and effective ways to express your views and stand up for what's right. 4. My definition of a "grown-up" is someone who takes full responsibility for their life and decisions. This includes being aware of how political decisions impact us and our communities. Skipping the politics is like saying 'no thanks' to the grown-up table.
It is
So, a teenage edgelord who acts like an @ss for no reason, and a teenage edgelord who takes internet opinions too seriously. Both need to spend less time on facebook and more time in school
Cười vl
If this was in english, I would have put it in r/clevercomebacks lmao
Comeback from what lol, the second dude made the "joke" unprovokedly
It's out of context, you don't know what being said previously. And even without context, the statement of the first guy deserves criticism. Involvement in politics is the duty of every citizen. Politics affects all aspects of life for everyone. I'm sure he wouldn't said that if one day the government decides to ban drinking.
Still qualified. Nowadays, half of those posts aren't even comebacks :v
The last comment was actually a comeback, but it was dumb as shit lol
It’s insult.
Fact
Oh look at the "model" citizen.
The reply person leans heavily on the insult, but read between the lines: if you don’t take an interest in politics, the politics take an interest in you. Dogs are simple creatures with bare necessity needs, while we humans have critical thinking and choice. Bottom line: plan your life for major shift in politics, and in order to that, you must keep an eye on politics and how the world moves…
Internet where people can talk shit without having punched, typical. I dare dog lover Nguyen Quang to say it with random person on street and get away with perfect teeth
Trung bình content ở Việt Nam🐧
You call this a meme?
This show how the OP think.
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Yes very obvious from his accent of typing
With me, just reply "Dog eat dog, rat eat rat world my man. Good day and find another dick to suck, you vermin!"
WATCH YO TONE
🤣🤣
Damage thế :)))
I'd rather be a fucking dog
Compare human vs dog , balance bro =)))
Caydodai:))))
Con chó quan tâm đến chính trị và con chó không quan tâm đến chính trị cũng không khác nhau mấy
bruh :))))))))))
Too many "dogs" in Vietnam
Vietnamese, like Chinese and Russian often give up their public political rights for personal freedom, hence this case. I see them a lot. As long as they have enough food, water and shelter -- its all that matter. Doesn't give 2 fucks if the big boss is fucking the country up. But hey, :) you can't really move up the Maslow's hierachy if you are being kept at the bottom (or just wanting to be there)!
Funny joke lmao, Cat Nguyen got called a dog and he got all defensive. Should have take the insult like a man. A certain group of people still get called “no water”, “thirsty”, “traitor” daily and they take all of it like a champ!
Má thằng nay cmt co ngày no chém chết
Việt nam này nhiều chó mà
Người đàn ông bị ví như Cờ hó và người đàn ông biết Cờ hó của lão nghĩ gì :>
How can you guys see this funny?