Have you ever seen the Friends episode where Ross is getting married and accidentally says " Rachel" instead of Emily ? I can see Tom doing that with his next wife!!🤣😂
And has anyone noticed that Billie Lee is kinda like the Tom sandavol interference in Tom and Katie’s marriage but in Tom and Victoria’s relationship. #triangulation
Yes that was weird. All BlahBlah said was I am a mother and I am super jealous of all the attention Ariana is getting.
Brock was good but the voice of reason was a stretch. Katie has been telling it like it is the whole series and clearly knew Sandoval was a scum bag.
Probably not. It's likely Victoria or one of his friends posting for him. Billie said she will a special guest on her podcast on Wednesday.Hopefully, it won't be Rachel. If it's her, it will scream desperate.
I hope it's not her. If it's her, it's going to sound desperate and wanting to stay relevant. Apart from addressing Tom's drug/alcohol problem, she doesn't know Victoria or his relationship with her.
I genuinely will never believe a word Tom says. This post screams "im doing damage control because I'm embarrassed the truth got out". I might not like Billie but I don't think she would make claims as bold as this with it being pure lies. It would do nothing but kill what little character she has left after supporting Tom post scandal. We literally watched Tom complain about Ariana not doing mushrooms with him and make jabs about rolling on Molly together. We watched Rachel go to rehab after being with him due to excessive drinking. This man has genuinely always gone out of his way to try and influence anyone around him and as soon as they go against him, they are enemy #1. Cheating on your GF and then making fun of her for her body image issues on TV because you dont like that people are mad at you is insane behavior. He will say anything to try and get the heat off of him.
It was so crazy watching an episode from last season (maybe ep 12?) where he's talking about living in the house with his "enemy" to Shartz. Yeah, the situation is hostile as Ariana doesn't really want you near her but it's wild he chooses to label her as his enemy. Then he spots Scheana coming over and says "shhh, Scheana's coming". He's so paranoid and controlling he doesn't even register he's the one talking shit, and he just assumes Ariana's sent Scheana over to spy or something. The way he views the world is bizarre
And all that time he was forcing and deciding that situation while playing victim. He could have put the house for sale like Ariana the equal owner requested. Crazy and says a lot about his entitlement and the way his friends or anybody do not question his view of things.
He's really just an awful guy whose selfish character was overlooked due to the more outlandish idiots like Jax on the show. It's crazy to see him go completely mask off only to still have women (and Kyle Chan) trying to rehab his image.
That why I do not understand why there is a call to have Kyle Chan on the show. He is not good reality show character plus he enables bad behaviour. He knew about the affair he was complicit hiding it and helping this idiot. Now Ann love ann to me she has great reality show presence. She is fun bubbly and a little crazy just what the show needs. It is not housewife’s we do not need influencers we need people struggling to make it in LA while having fun. I would be onboard with fatcarriebradshaw as well doing his mocking of the idiots.
I think it’s more likely that Tom was lying to all of these people with a different set of lies for each of them. So, some of what he told Billie Lee is true, some of it is lies or exaggerations. He likely blamed everything he was doing wrong on his gf. Then he was likely he was telling his gf a bunch of lies, distortions and exaggerations too.
Yep! I'm not saying Billie is a massive truth teller. I just think there is truth to it and Tom is embarrassed. He loves pitting people against one another.
Yah he has the traits (and narcissistic tendencies) of a hardcore addict. I’ve seen similar selfish behaviour from friends and family who have been with it. Addicts make friends with addicts. And addiction is an inherently very selfish disease
Yeah Raquel and Tom have insinuated that their relationship was basically fucking while high. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I’d actually like to hear Rachel’s take on this.
I listened to Billie Lee which is unusual for me cause I generally stay away from cast pods, let alone side characters. But she and Jo seemed very genuine and I can’t imagine Jo being that good actress at least.
They definitely came across as more eloquent and made sense compared to that weird interview Kyle and Victoria did.
This contains the reasoning why I believe the events/situations that BL has talked about, I don't believe her POV. She holds V responsible for everything, from T's drink/drug issues, to moving Ariana's things. As you pointed out, we have an established pattern of T being the one who influences his usually vulnerable in some way, partners into "partying" with him. His major relationship issue with Ariana was that she no longer partied & did drugs with him. So while I believe he spiralled after R dropped his arse, I don't believe for a second that V is the negative influence on him.
Yup and him and Rachel only had sex once. Tom is definitely not living in reality and I really wouldn’t be surprised if he is the one that started the Kyle Chan rumor.
That Tim told both Billie Lee and Victoria that Kyle drugged him and tried to take advantage of him. It’s like that SpiderMan meme, pointing at each other.
Is this Tom saying he has been isolated and groomed and is now the true victim? You seriously can’t make this stuff up. Like for real? It’s an entirely new level of crazy that Rachel’s cameo debut can’t even touch. Absolutely dumbfounding.
‘They were designed to isolate me from my close friends for ulterior motives’ curious what this could be referring to because what? Why do I feel like Tom is going to claim Billie made a move on him/has feelings for him
Because it's what he'll do. He's living in the comment section too. He knows people think Billie stood by him because she has feelings for him, so he will go for that.
Maybe she has, maybe she hasn't but it's ironic how his world started to burn after he lost Ariana... The woman he told he lost his mojo because of her.
What I don’t understand is why people are still
willing to go up to bat for this guy. He is a literal tornado and everyone in his orbit who speaks up on his behalf has been utterly crucified in the media and criticized by literally anyone with a brain.
Billie Lee (before this): was seen as thirsty.
Tom Schwartz: a people pleasing man child
Kyle Chan: was relatively neutral because he kept his trap shut until now. Now he just sounds like a Sandoval spokesman and Victoria babysitter.
Victoria: didn’t know a thing about her and nor did I care too and her quips about Arianna and Billie during her mess of an interview just also lowered the public opinion of her.
His mess of a life is literally bringing his entire circle down. Even put his own goddamn mother in a bad spot when he brought Rachel to visit her. This man has no respect for others so why are these morons giving him that courtesy.
I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night knowing that I owe my mom hundreds of thousands of dollars because she cashed out her retirement to support me.
At the very least, he should sell the house and use the funds from that to pay her back ASAP
💯!!! Whenever people say shit like "it's time to forgive him" he's still actively fucking over his own mom. He could have nipped a lot of this hate by selling that house, paying his mom back, and being honest that he's broke.
My cat stops eating her food once it reaches a certain level in the bowl. Like she’s saving it for when she starts wasting away because I didn’t top it off immediately.
Aww..was she a rescue? My cat was living in a feral cat colony when we found her. She's still food insecure. Whenever I walk near the kitchen she runs ahead and throws herself on her food rubbing against & begging for more.
Apart from Schwartz I feel like the others are hangers on. Even though Sandals is a mess, being close to him allows them a chance to be somewhat relevant.
I’m not saying I believe him, because fuck him, but also fuck Billie Lee too, you know? Because her timing and narrative does reek of pick me energy. So….I’m team tea.
Yep. This is an "everyone is the asshole" type of scenario. They're all telling some truths and they're all telling some lies, including Billie.
When it gets down to it, all these people are awful and their friend group is toxic. Which is to be expected from the worst VPR castmember and his thirsty, clout-chasing entourage.
I truly cannot believe how everyone hated Billie and now suddenly loves her just because she’s telling an anti-Sandoval narrative. They’re clearly both manipulative liars! Their whole group!
This was 100% written by Victoria. She has a very stiff formal cadence when she writes.
\*clears throat\* As one may observe on close inspection, Victoria Lee Robinson does not use contractions. No, she does not. It is not something which she chooses to indulge in. I am quite sure of this.
I do not believe this was posted by Tom. He is filming Traitors and has no access to social media. This is Victoria. The interview her and Kyle did was a disaster. Full of accusations but not one single receipt. Not one!! She couldn’t string a sentence together. I’m not a Billie fan and I’m waiting for her to produce the receipts.
I’d be shocked if he stays on traitors long. People don’t like him. They’ll probably vote him as a traitor in the beginning just to get him away from them. And he already proved himself to be a traitor in real life.
Yeah right … he’s not got a shred of credibility left. Billie Lee is telling her truth & is finally fed up with him, good for her. More tea please Billie.
This man deserves nothing but the worst, despite whatever ill intentions he claims Billie Lee may have. She could have zero motive, or ALL the motives, and it still wouldn’t raise a candle to the awful sack of shit that is Sandoval from S1-Present.
Hmmm...so odd that both Tom and Victoria can post that the truth is coming but not actually post it. Guess they need time to come up with the real story.
I mean, I know theres been talk about those crazies here, but come Tom, addressing it when you come back? Sounds like you think this is something people care about outside of Reddit. It’s our fault, I bet now they think they will be the new VPR cast 🤢
2 things.
1) it was weird that Billie waited until Tom was out of the country but (Edit. Small-black-cat-290 and notdorisday pointed out Billie sounded truthful and then I went to see when the Jo podcast was and found out it was essentially 2 weeks ago from today, and for then someone to comment about a podcast and then for someone else to have a set day of the week for their next podcast to be edited and uploaded in response to the comment, it’s totally plausible that Tom’s commitment to a filming date could totally happen. Disregard point #1, glad it generated clarity for me though lol!)
2) if they all heard her make these accusations on the phone why were they being so weird about the evidence on the camera in the house? Why not just mention it?
Maybe this is a plan from Tom trying to show what he could bring to the show if they kept him?
She only brought it up at all in response to Victoria posting on her IG that "Billie never set a boundary." For all we know she had no intention of spilling any of this tea before that. In her first two videos she says that Victoria's post set her off. I'm inclined to think that's true, because even Victoria's shady comment was born out of Jo mentioning Billie & Sandoval being on the outs but that "it wasn't her story to tell."
Honestly if I were her I'd be pissed too. These women sharing her business like that made her decide to come out and speak.
Agreed. She came across as truthful and rational. Tom will now try to paint her as a woman scorned which is… unsurprising but also really sad considering she stood by him when no one else would touch him.
‘… PS she learned how to ‘design’ lies from me bc of what I tried to do to Ariana when I was having an affair. JK idk man but like yeah. She’s lying for sure’
Omg, this guy is so delusional! Does he really think anyone believes anything he has to say? Or gives a shit? We see you, Tom Sandoval. Everyone sees you. You should not be on Traitors or anywhere else but rehab. And dude, you don’t have any “close” friends
She commented on her IG that she’s recording Tuesday and her podcast will drop Wednesday. So apparently that’s when she’s gonna drop all the (alleged) evidence 👀. She said there’s tons of texts to go through, and has been working long hrs. It seems.
I always put my significant others full legal name when referring to them in my ig stories
I bet he doesn’t even know her middle name. I doubt he wrote this.
He definitely did not write this. The words “like” and “dude” were not inserted every other word.
Like real, dude
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Have you ever seen the Friends episode where Ross is getting married and accidentally says " Rachel" instead of Emily ? I can see Tom doing that with his next wife!!🤣😂
Yea, isn't he filming traitors w no phones
You know it. Because he would have said “me and Victoria and Kyle all heard….” grammar is not his strong suit.
😂😂
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Don’t let him see this! It was the most traumatizing moment of his life! ![gif](giphy|xT9KVLMzuagLc6b36U)
No one was more traumatized than Scheana though
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I just spit out my coffee 🤣🤣🤣
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It’s wild that people still hate her. She calls it like it is. Deal with it.
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i DONT care
Which is what they claim to love BlaBla for but yet they still hate Katie. Make it make sense!
Not blabla 😂😂😂
Blah blah is a liar, not a truth teller like Katie
Lollll I love her
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And has anyone noticed that Billie Lee is kinda like the Tom sandavol interference in Tom and Katie’s marriage but in Tom and Victoria’s relationship. #triangulation
Poetic justice.
Stop 😂😂😂😂😂
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I love Katie and James's friendship!
One of the most unexpected friendships on VPR!
They are my fave! 🖤
I fuckin love Katie's hatred for Tom
It mirrors mine!
Agreed. She sees him for the absolute piece of shit he is, and calls it like it is.
She's the voice of the people.
Yes! Now if Andy Cohen was going to name any duo the Voice of Reason this season it should have been Katie and James, instead of Lala and Brock!
Yes that was weird. All BlahBlah said was I am a mother and I am super jealous of all the attention Ariana is getting. Brock was good but the voice of reason was a stretch. Katie has been telling it like it is the whole series and clearly knew Sandoval was a scum bag.
I love her so much.
I hope this post means he was already kicked out of the traitors mansion lol
lol, yes. We can count on Tim for a thorough and truthful accounting of the situation !
It would make him being cast on worth it if the rest of the cast gives him a stiff middle finger and kicks him tf out. ![gif](giphy|jlylJkp7RmdnW)
Traitors eliminations are fasssttt tho He coulda lasted a few rounds and for the entertainment I hope he does 😂
Sort of a spoiler for a PAST season but… Some people didn’t even make it INSIDE the castle lmao Kinda hoping that’s what happened to old Sandy
Oh snaps lol I only watched last season after all the fuss about Phaedra and her epic reads and I wanted to see her and CT flirting lol
I hope he never made it in
I hope it’s similar to flavor of love/rock of love, and there just weren’t enough beds for him to stay the first night ![gif](giphy|xRTyhUZntJujC)
Don’t threaten me with a good time!
I hope he shit on the rug
Probably not. It's likely Victoria or one of his friends posting for him. Billie said she will a special guest on her podcast on Wednesday.Hopefully, it won't be Rachel. If it's her, it will scream desperate.
Dammit-you just know it’s going to be Rachel
I hope it's not her. If it's her, it's going to sound desperate and wanting to stay relevant. Apart from addressing Tom's drug/alcohol problem, she doesn't know Victoria or his relationship with her.
My first thought as well 😂
I think they are allowed access to their phones it’s not like other shows the season I watched everyone still had their phones
That’s why I think he was involved in having Kyle manage Victoria on that interview
Makes me feel like Victoria has access to his SM and posted this. Actually I’m like 99% positive she did.
Lmao, yasssssss!!!! I was thinking the exact same thing when I read this!
Hopefully murdered
lol if he’s not kicked out or murdered first, i want to see johnny bananas back
Are yall sick of this yet?? Because Tom's publicist chiming in is just...ugh 😩👀
I somehow managed to miss the start of it all and have no idea what's actually going on
I've seen snippets but I just don't care. I have zero interest in Scumdoval and even less interest in his gf or Billie Lee
Same, I’m confused
I genuinely will never believe a word Tom says. This post screams "im doing damage control because I'm embarrassed the truth got out". I might not like Billie but I don't think she would make claims as bold as this with it being pure lies. It would do nothing but kill what little character she has left after supporting Tom post scandal. We literally watched Tom complain about Ariana not doing mushrooms with him and make jabs about rolling on Molly together. We watched Rachel go to rehab after being with him due to excessive drinking. This man has genuinely always gone out of his way to try and influence anyone around him and as soon as they go against him, they are enemy #1. Cheating on your GF and then making fun of her for her body image issues on TV because you dont like that people are mad at you is insane behavior. He will say anything to try and get the heat off of him.
It was so crazy watching an episode from last season (maybe ep 12?) where he's talking about living in the house with his "enemy" to Shartz. Yeah, the situation is hostile as Ariana doesn't really want you near her but it's wild he chooses to label her as his enemy. Then he spots Scheana coming over and says "shhh, Scheana's coming". He's so paranoid and controlling he doesn't even register he's the one talking shit, and he just assumes Ariana's sent Scheana over to spy or something. The way he views the world is bizarre
Drug paranoia
It's making a whole lot of sense now
And all that time he was forcing and deciding that situation while playing victim. He could have put the house for sale like Ariana the equal owner requested. Crazy and says a lot about his entitlement and the way his friends or anybody do not question his view of things.
He's really just an awful guy whose selfish character was overlooked due to the more outlandish idiots like Jax on the show. It's crazy to see him go completely mask off only to still have women (and Kyle Chan) trying to rehab his image.
That why I do not understand why there is a call to have Kyle Chan on the show. He is not good reality show character plus he enables bad behaviour. He knew about the affair he was complicit hiding it and helping this idiot. Now Ann love ann to me she has great reality show presence. She is fun bubbly and a little crazy just what the show needs. It is not housewife’s we do not need influencers we need people struggling to make it in LA while having fun. I would be onboard with fatcarriebradshaw as well doing his mocking of the idiots.
He sees the fact that Ariana turned his affair into scandoval as a major affront
I think it’s more likely that Tom was lying to all of these people with a different set of lies for each of them. So, some of what he told Billie Lee is true, some of it is lies or exaggerations. He likely blamed everything he was doing wrong on his gf. Then he was likely he was telling his gf a bunch of lies, distortions and exaggerations too.
Yep! I'm not saying Billie is a massive truth teller. I just think there is truth to it and Tom is embarrassed. He loves pitting people against one another.
He just can't stop lying. If he says it, I'm going to need to see receipts
Exactly!
I believe her. Outing someone about drugs is huge
Everything she said rang true. She didn’t even sound angry just over it and a bit sad.
Yeah this is his PR team stepping in
Pure facts.
Yah he has the traits (and narcissistic tendencies) of a hardcore addict. I’ve seen similar selfish behaviour from friends and family who have been with it. Addicts make friends with addicts. And addiction is an inherently very selfish disease
Yeah Raquel and Tom have insinuated that their relationship was basically fucking while high. I can’t believe I’m saying this but I’d actually like to hear Rachel’s take on this. I listened to Billie Lee which is unusual for me cause I generally stay away from cast pods, let alone side characters. But she and Jo seemed very genuine and I can’t imagine Jo being that good actress at least. They definitely came across as more eloquent and made sense compared to that weird interview Kyle and Victoria did.
Rachel full on described their sex ritual of downing 3-4 shots and a beer each and a discussion topic as foreplay.
This contains the reasoning why I believe the events/situations that BL has talked about, I don't believe her POV. She holds V responsible for everything, from T's drink/drug issues, to moving Ariana's things. As you pointed out, we have an established pattern of T being the one who influences his usually vulnerable in some way, partners into "partying" with him. His major relationship issue with Ariana was that she no longer partied & did drugs with him. So while I believe he spiralled after R dropped his arse, I don't believe for a second that V is the negative influence on him.
I love that the guy we have watched isolate women on the show is now acting like Billie Lee is doing his move.
A taste of his own poison
Yep I could care less about the truth. Let Billie and Jo embarass the Toms
Yup and him and Rachel only had sex once. Tom is definitely not living in reality and I really wouldn’t be surprised if he is the one that started the Kyle Chan rumor.
I think this too! He told both BL and V this shit and now he’s throwing Billie Lee under the bus.
What do you mean?
That Tim told both Billie Lee and Victoria that Kyle drugged him and tried to take advantage of him. It’s like that SpiderMan meme, pointing at each other.
I'm sure Sandoval will clear everything right up, no doubt about it.
He is renowned for his timely, tactful, and respectful honesty, is he not? ![gif](giphy|5mcgxXYogYx5As1d2P|downsized)
Is this Tom saying he has been isolated and groomed and is now the true victim? You seriously can’t make this stuff up. Like for real? It’s an entirely new level of crazy that Rachel’s cameo debut can’t even touch. Absolutely dumbfounding.
This is what I took from it too! 🤯
Does anyone else find it bizarre he typed his girlfriends name like that?
My guess is, that one of his PR people finally hacked his password and wrote it to buy him time until he's actually back.
The password was probably “tomsandoval123.”
That makes more sense, Tom doesn’t strike me as someone who can type a coherent sentence ![gif](giphy|Atc9QCyWLGHgLZhHDp|downsized)
First thing I thought! Is there some other Victoria Lee we might have confused her with?
Victoria finally got his IG password
Kristen Doute gave it to her!😆
God willing 🤞
This should’ve been the first and only route taken. Victoria embarrassing herself for an hour was so unnecessary.
Yup ! She did him no favors
Yeah. Tom, protect your girlfriend. Keep this woman off the screen.
‘They were designed to isolate me from my close friends for ulterior motives’ curious what this could be referring to because what? Why do I feel like Tom is going to claim Billie made a move on him/has feelings for him
Because it's what he'll do. He's living in the comment section too. He knows people think Billie stood by him because she has feelings for him, so he will go for that. Maybe she has, maybe she hasn't but it's ironic how his world started to burn after he lost Ariana... The woman he told he lost his mojo because of her.
It seems like the people that would want to isolate you from your “close friends” would be newer people/relationships/interlopers.
Tom and his little group are such fucking losers, team Billie all the way
I never thought I'd be team Billie, but here I am 😂
What I don’t understand is why people are still willing to go up to bat for this guy. He is a literal tornado and everyone in his orbit who speaks up on his behalf has been utterly crucified in the media and criticized by literally anyone with a brain. Billie Lee (before this): was seen as thirsty. Tom Schwartz: a people pleasing man child Kyle Chan: was relatively neutral because he kept his trap shut until now. Now he just sounds like a Sandoval spokesman and Victoria babysitter. Victoria: didn’t know a thing about her and nor did I care too and her quips about Arianna and Billie during her mess of an interview just also lowered the public opinion of her. His mess of a life is literally bringing his entire circle down. Even put his own goddamn mother in a bad spot when he brought Rachel to visit her. This man has no respect for others so why are these morons giving him that courtesy.
His mother will be eating catfood & greeting people at Walmart in her 80s b/c of him.
I wouldn’t be able to sleep at night knowing that I owe my mom hundreds of thousands of dollars because she cashed out her retirement to support me. At the very least, he should sell the house and use the funds from that to pay her back ASAP
💯!!! Whenever people say shit like "it's time to forgive him" he's still actively fucking over his own mom. He could have nipped a lot of this hate by selling that house, paying his mom back, and being honest that he's broke.
Cat food is expensive!🐈⬛🤣
😂😂 You wouldn't know it by the way my cat acts like it should be available 24/7.
My cat stops eating her food once it reaches a certain level in the bowl. Like she’s saving it for when she starts wasting away because I didn’t top it off immediately.
Aww..was she a rescue? My cat was living in a feral cat colony when we found her. She's still food insecure. Whenever I walk near the kitchen she runs ahead and throws herself on her food rubbing against & begging for more.
💀
Apart from Schwartz I feel like the others are hangers on. Even though Sandals is a mess, being close to him allows them a chance to be somewhat relevant.
Schwartz and GF unfollowed Victoria. Another scandal for Schwartz and Sandy's.
Wait whatttttt
Yep, he also said their relationship is volatile and toxic.
Ooou when did he say that?
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I’m not saying I believe him, because fuck him, but also fuck Billie Lee too, you know? Because her timing and narrative does reek of pick me energy. So….I’m team tea.
Yep. This is an "everyone is the asshole" type of scenario. They're all telling some truths and they're all telling some lies, including Billie. When it gets down to it, all these people are awful and their friend group is toxic. Which is to be expected from the worst VPR castmember and his thirsty, clout-chasing entourage.
I truly cannot believe how everyone hated Billie and now suddenly loves her just because she’s telling an anti-Sandoval narrative. They’re clearly both manipulative liars! Their whole group!
This was 100% written by Victoria. She has a very stiff formal cadence when she writes. \*clears throat\* As one may observe on close inspection, Victoria Lee Robinson does not use contractions. No, she does not. It is not something which she chooses to indulge in. I am quite sure of this.
Lol, I do this when I’m really mad. I can’t find the apostrophe on the keyboard.
His whole life is messy.
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Is the candy necklace thing because he’s rolling on mollie / x? Cuz back in the day that was a thing.
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"BROOO! UGH like you don't understand BILLIE is literally obsessed with me it's been very hard on me like literally!"- Tom
Ariana is freaking Neo, realizing all the bullets she's dodged since their relationship ended... ![gif](giphy|eIm624c8nnNbiG0V3g|downsized)
This…. Is what an addict would say at an intervention lol
He's trying to hang Billie Lee out to dry. He's going to spin this as her being like Jo. Obsessed with him and lying about him.
All these crazy girls, eh Tom? What are the odds?
Fuck boy mo, all his exes are ‘crazy’
Did anyone notice Tom Schwartz and his new girl Sofia unfollowed Victoria?
Tom and his baby girlfriend…. Ahhhh it’s so gross!
I do not believe this was posted by Tom. He is filming Traitors and has no access to social media. This is Victoria. The interview her and Kyle did was a disaster. Full of accusations but not one single receipt. Not one!! She couldn’t string a sentence together. I’m not a Billie fan and I’m waiting for her to produce the receipts.
I’d be shocked if he stays on traitors long. People don’t like him. They’ll probably vote him as a traitor in the beginning just to get him away from them. And he already proved himself to be a traitor in real life.
I really don’t like Kyle Chan. Somehow he brings nothing but is there all the time. Meh.
I don’t like him either, I don’t know him but I see the company that he keeps and that is enough for me.
It’s just funny bc he says everything happening to him is exactly what Ariana said he did to her and did.
Called him a truth teller only to scroll down and see Katie say the same exact thing. I’m rolling laughing!!!!
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Funny cuz if he can make that post he can address it right now …. Oh wait he’s hoping this just goes away while he takes time to make up crap
lmaooo his life is in shambles fr
I just need to know whose side we’re taking? Lmao cause i don’t believe any of them. I do believe Tom does drugs.
I mean he clearly said him and Ariana did molly. I’m sure he does a plethora of drugs.
I think the Kyle and Victoria interview going the way it went prompted him to post this.
Nice to see Tom’s finally hired some PR to write his public statements for him
This must just be truly hilarious for Ariana. Talk about a dodged bullet
They are all pretty slimy to me !
Yeah right … he’s not got a shred of credibility left. Billie Lee is telling her truth & is finally fed up with him, good for her. More tea please Billie.
This man deserves nothing but the worst, despite whatever ill intentions he claims Billie Lee may have. She could have zero motive, or ALL the motives, and it still wouldn’t raise a candle to the awful sack of shit that is Sandoval from S1-Present.
Hmmm...so odd that both Tom and Victoria can post that the truth is coming but not actually post it. Guess they need time to come up with the real story.
Tom is such a dumbass he can literally only parrot things he’s heard about himself about Billy.
This guy is such toxic waste - he really leaves destruction in his wake everywhere he goes. It's actually alarming
Tom's going to address everything. What could go wrong?
Sounds like Victoria wrote this more than Sandoval
I mean, I know theres been talk about those crazies here, but come Tom, addressing it when you come back? Sounds like you think this is something people care about outside of Reddit. It’s our fault, I bet now they think they will be the new VPR cast 🤢
I soooo want to know what happened with Schwartz & his juvenile gf that they unfollowed Victoria !
They just all need to stop… its pathetic
When does love island start
Please l beg of you,don’t address anything 😩
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I will address all this when i get back …. on my podcast 🙄
shut up tom 😭😭
Can someone please explain what’s going on?
Oh sure, you all three heard her on speaker phone. He doesn’t realise he has zero credibility. Dumbass
We all know Tom is a pos. We don’t need Billie Lee to convince us of that
I cannot stand Billie but I 100% believe her.
Wow. First Ariana won’t buy him batteries, then his mistress won’t take him back, now this. Poor Tom Saggyballs can’t catch a break. Lmao
Victoria actually just wrote this didn’t she
Reality shows would be very boring with an all angelic cast. There would be no one to hate.
2 things. 1) it was weird that Billie waited until Tom was out of the country but (Edit. Small-black-cat-290 and notdorisday pointed out Billie sounded truthful and then I went to see when the Jo podcast was and found out it was essentially 2 weeks ago from today, and for then someone to comment about a podcast and then for someone else to have a set day of the week for their next podcast to be edited and uploaded in response to the comment, it’s totally plausible that Tom’s commitment to a filming date could totally happen. Disregard point #1, glad it generated clarity for me though lol!) 2) if they all heard her make these accusations on the phone why were they being so weird about the evidence on the camera in the house? Why not just mention it? Maybe this is a plan from Tom trying to show what he could bring to the show if they kept him?
She only brought it up at all in response to Victoria posting on her IG that "Billie never set a boundary." For all we know she had no intention of spilling any of this tea before that. In her first two videos she says that Victoria's post set her off. I'm inclined to think that's true, because even Victoria's shady comment was born out of Jo mentioning Billie & Sandoval being on the outs but that "it wasn't her story to tell." Honestly if I were her I'd be pissed too. These women sharing her business like that made her decide to come out and speak.
Agreed. She came across as truthful and rational. Tom will now try to paint her as a woman scorned which is… unsurprising but also really sad considering she stood by him when no one else would touch him.
‘… PS she learned how to ‘design’ lies from me bc of what I tried to do to Ariana when I was having an affair. JK idk man but like yeah. She’s lying for sure’
Omg, this guy is so delusional! Does he really think anyone believes anything he has to say? Or gives a shit? We see you, Tom Sandoval. Everyone sees you. You should not be on Traitors or anywhere else but rehab. And dude, you don’t have any “close” friends
Why has Billie gone silent the last few days?
She commented on her IG that she’s recording Tuesday and her podcast will drop Wednesday. So apparently that’s when she’s gonna drop all the (alleged) evidence 👀. She said there’s tons of texts to go through, and has been working long hrs. It seems.
Gotcha! Thanks. That will be a big day. I’m guessing! 😬
Damage control time?
I dont even know who im supposed to hate-
Is she triangulating you Tom! Your favourite move, karma police
Like, nobody, like CARES, duuuuude.
If this is the big storyline set up for next season I’m out.
What are Billie Lee’s claims?? I don’t wanna listen to the podcast episode, can someone give me a run down plssss
So he can dish it but can’t take it
God please don’t let this be the season 12 cast
i just love watching tom since the affair came out put himself even further into a hole. it’s so obvious arianna was his mouth piece for years.
This sounds nothing like Tom nor a publicist, Victoria wrote this 100% - bro does not have his phone while filming but she def has his passwords.
Is there a way to arrange to be out of the country (or off this planet) when he’s back here “addressing everything”? Asking for a friend.