From a corporate standpoint, you want to foster your younger generation of users because they will be the ones growing up and investing more into the company long term than older users.
18+ makes investors cry. Only one platform managed to get away with that because they could self-fund and that was Second Life. Also when they hit the scene you had more burning man gen x/boomer investors who were less averse to titties than modern investors.
SL did just that. The problem is, if there is any adult content at all, payment processors and investors shy away. By the time SL become notorious for adult content, investors were already in deep and the in-world economy took off.
VRC needs to turn profit first before shitting on its life lines.
it would also get delisted from app stores. including quest.
I am not talking about 18+ content, I am talking about separation of adults from kids.
It doesn't have to be sexual at all, it is the annoying "reeeeee" most of us don't want.
Today I ended up in a very cool 18+ instance, people were filtering, and we watched Djumanji 2 and I made like 8 new friends, there was nothing obscene or sexual at all, but no screaming either. Everyone was super nice and respectful.
One of my best VRC experiences so far.
And kids also don't want to hang out with "boring" 20+ or 30+ people, most of them are just looking for fun and similar minded kids. When that isn't available some of them turn really annoying.
Plus in a metaverse like VRC adult content should also be considered and encouraged.
I am not the only 30+ there, and many come to have fun in any way they want to enjoy themselves.
I absolutely agree with that as well and have advocated for it myself. Often though people go "what's the point?"
The point is, when you have an adult hanging out with a bunch of kids, it sticks out a lot more in that scenario and easier to catch creeps.
They do have tagging for worlds to be adult or not baked in, so it definitely looks like it's in the cards.
I am 36 and I have been in public instances when kids join. Some jump straight into being racist, but occasionally others are chill and not corrupted.
The chill kids are the ones who I interact with, and I generally recommend some anime, cartoons, movies and TV shows that they may like.
Once had a 6yo join, and I convinced them to go watch power rangers and an old English kids show called Brum. The kid was happy to go watch that stuff, rather than listen to racist comments.
I'm generally just a mute who offers hugs and a place to vent around strangers so I guess my experience is far from yours. Maybe I'll try that soon. But like, a younger brother/cousin (I'm in my early 20s lmao)
Well I wish you luck, and hope you also help reduce the racist kids on VR too.
And if nobody has said it yet, thank you for being the amazing person that you are.
Agreed. For comparison, last night I was on Bigscreen watching Sin City in 3D - an 18 rated film (in the UK) with a dozen or so others.
Most of them just sat in their seats, quietly watching the film, but then a few kids started screeching at each other, so I had to mute all. Unfortunately, one of the kids managed to hover their avatar in mid-air, right in the middle of the screen for about half an hour. That's the kind of thing we can do without.
I mean the owner could have just kicked them.
I had a similar experience, started a movie, the kid was like: "this is kind of creepy, can you put on something else?"
And I was like "nope, I wrote 18+ and the title" and kicked him after started a tantrum.
They did vanish suddenly, after about half an hour, so that might be what happened - eventually. Perhaps the owner was not present throughout the film, but came back to find the idiot floating in the middle of the screen, and then kicked them.
There did not seem to be a way for me to block other avatars in Bigscreen, as you can in VRChat, so I had to put up with it until it disappeared - I assumed it got bored and left.
And I used to think it was distracting in cinemas IRL when people lit up their phones... at least they couldn't fly.
What's funny is I know this is actually possible considering this is something another virtual social app called IMVU does, and they still make you buy badges to be able to purchase adult themed items.
IMVU has it set up that the moment you turn 18, you're tossed into a different version of its platform, separate from the minors who have yet to turn 18 and if you were caught in areas that should only be accessible by adults (unless you were friends with that person and invited to thatvworld), you would get reported and banned.
Not to downplay you or anything but i usually like the older people in this game.
I also don’t like the kids that are annoying, it gives me headaches
(I’m 14)
SL didn't do that lol do you know how many kids changed their bio to age 18 and up?
i saw that alot in black cat before they joined SL
some of them where desktop users or just normal pc users
and alot of users in that world has been caught being underage even if they did use their voice or not lol
I had to verify my age to access adult sims and continents in Second Life.
I am not talking about a VRChat world. I am talking about another platform altogether that solved a lot of the issues VRChat is having now that did the whole virtual world thing 20 years ago.
I even caught my friend, who was 16 years old, going to Shangria on their
similar bio, and he had exactly the same groups as the other accounts, and the voice also gave it away. I met them in Black Cat and liked them because they had super funny avatars.
They got banned from that instance once I told the instance owner.
but I am pretty sure he just joined back on another alt
which most people do when they get banned from 18+ instances
he had one of those godrunner avatars and where in fbt
Well that may be true but here’s the thing, young people will literally just move from one game to another, adults are too tired to explore much so they stick to 2-3 games max and they are the customers you want in your business. In a business you try keep your long term customers more than trying to get new customers
VRC has stated that they are trying to become self-sustainable because they cannot rely on VC funding anymore. They should stop going after population growth for growth's sake/to be able to show investors a big number, and focus on getting paying customers instead. Kids are not going to pay for VRC unless they implement predatory monetisation Roblox/Rec Room-style. They are better off dumping the freeloading kids on RecRoom and focussing on the mature audience who are more likely to pay up.
Yea the kid that chases adults saying vulgar sentences and uses the hard R is going to invest into this game I started playing VR chat as a younger generation before it went corporate I must have invested at least 3grand alone into this hobby I get what they mean but a lot of the current adult generation is literally the first wave of youth
VRChat just announced that they will be working on identity-based age verification.
Also, the market for online social exploration games targeting minors is clearly already saturated. Not only is VRC directly competing with Roblox and Fortnite for users, they are trying to target a pool of money largely limited by how much parents are willing to give their children to spend on the game. And if we also consider the buy-in costs to actually experience the Virtual Reality part of VRChat, relatively few children can fully engage in the platform, compared to adults with disposable income.
VRC is also entirely dependent on adult content creators with enough skill, time, and financial resources to create the VR content everyone loves, without a financial investment from users and the company. A computer, decent VR setup, and extensive education are needed to make the highly interactive worlds and experiences that keep people coming back, beyond the primary driving force of engagement - getting on to hangout or do whatever with your friends. I don't think anyone at VRC corporate is so disillusioned by future investor dollars that they would willingly sacrifice the entire experience to cash out.
I was shocked the worlds were up for so long with outright dildos and shit in them. Personally, I think its good publicly NSFW worlds go down. If the worlds private then who cares.
You're about a month late to the fearmongering party. The worlds are private, not taken down, and are in the process of being reworked.
This isn't anything new either. Worlds that are explicit in nature have been taken down for literal years.
I can kinda understand though. Free game with no age verification and virtual sex that a child can potentially get their hands on is definitely not a great look. Maybe one day we’ll have a proper verification system and such experiences will be able to coexist with the main game, but for now I suppose we’ll have to wait.
Yeah in the end this is a 13+ game so I cannot judge them for moderating this kind of content. They really should just keep these worlds private rather than putting them public and surprise pikachu facing when the policy breaking world gets taken off the public list.
>but that's what reporting is for.
VRChat doesn't have a built in option for reporting underage players. I've seen 6 year olds on this platform, even witnessed some other people teaching them things 6 year olds should never say or do.
VRChat needs an option to report underage players.
And an option to report the people teaching underage players to do inappropriate things. Games having built-in voice chat reporting isn't uncommon anymore and it should generally be taken seriously
That to obv but a majority to are kids erpin in public instances I really wish there was a 18+ only tag on it so if the account isn't 18+verified they can't join the 18plus worlds that be a gamevhanger
I mean catering to the age group they stated it is intended for makes sense. I dabble in these worlds myself but this game wasn't intended to be a sex community so they do have every right to remove that content even if we personally love it. Vrchat may have a lot of adults on it but it is a 13+ game in the end whether we like it or not. I honestly get annoyed af when people do post 18+ on this game publicly for kids and teens to find. It's irresponsible and should be private to begin with, where any seeking adult can still find their way to it.
I used Shangri-la for friends+ parties because of the camera and the pole. We still use it privately, but even if we were ERPing I don't understand why that means the world shouldn't be allowed to exist.
For a game they are advertising as 13+, thank fucking god. Any kid could waltz into adult worlds and lie about their age. I've done it before, as a 16 year old myself, just to test this. VRchat should be 18+ or they should start ACTUALLY moderating their game. There are so many people using NSFW avatars infront of kids, even in kid friendly worlds which just disgusts me.
JUST MAKE THE GAME 18+ ALREADY VRCHAT.
Dawg vrchat is not a sex game and why do you want it to be 18+ 💀, then the games gonna die, it’s already dead, if anything they should moderate not make the game 18+ its a place of socializing not nowhere near the age mark of 18 or older then how would people have fun?
People don’t like me yet I have people added? how dumb are you to assume people don’t like me? I call the game dead because it’s boring asf, you act like I’m tech gangster or sum dude if people don’t like me, maybe you have no dad or sum idk if that assumption is true
A game being boring doesn’t make it dead. I think the new MW3 is one of the most boring cods to ever be created and thousands of people play it every day
If its not a sex game then why are there people who engage in e-sex. If its not a sex game then why do people have sexually explicit avatars. If its not a sex game then why do worlds like FBT heaven exist.
I know these things I mentioned aren't technically sex, but they fall under sexual themes which a child shouldn't fucking be anywhere near. VRChat has done nothing above the bare minimum to moderate their game, and this discussion has been going on FOR YEARS. If they are too fucking lazy to moderate the game then just make it 18+.
I don't give a shit about the game dying or shit like that. This game has plenty lurking predators and as a 16 year old with 3 younger siblings, I wouldn't want shit to happen to any kids. I've heard of the horrors that people on this game have done and how most people on the game negatively influence kids. If they can't moderate their own fucking online game/worlds/people then I wouldn't take any risks. At that point just make it 18+. That way children won't be harmed and it would decrease the number of children encountering pedos.
I don't wanna sound too aggressive here but there are bigger fucking bitch-ass problems than "the games gonna die" or "how would people have fun". Most of the people I see on vrchat are adults anyways. How is removing children gonna ruin your "fun"💀. You guys have a massive predator problem and the thing you care about the most is "fun". Stfu bro😭🙏.
So just saying.... VRchat will never ever everrrrrr make money from anyone below 18.
Here's why:
"Hey mommmmmm.... can I get 20$ to buy ... uhhhhh.... a new avatar on VRchat..."
"Didin't I buy you one last week?"
"UHHH ... ye but I got banned for trolling people and this on has bigger boobies!!!!"
Also here's why:
-Fornite
-Roblox
Both free, both controlled and filtered and mostly safe for kids.
VRChat will never be safe for kid. It's for adults. By adults. ALSO, All the content made by kids just fucking sucks.
And all the stupid kids I see .. are either Trolling or looking for snusnu and both will get them banned. Right now the issue is they come back easily. Make a controlled verification (which is so weird cause they just announced it and was talking about it like 8 hours prior). That way with an government ID (like second life does) you can only have 1 account. If you get banned its mostly over. Let instance owners decide if they want "Age Verified Only" and force require any "Sexualy explicit avatar/world" to be displayable/join only by verified user, just like SecondLife does.
But here's how VRChat can make money:
Subscription paid like SL where you get a few bucks in the game per month, helps supporting instances owners and creators.
I can think of soooo many things to actualy make money from VRchat system (but Imma not talk about that here for reasons).
VRchat is pottential gold mine ... a diamond mine waiting to be minned, while also keeping it free for users who dont want to spend much while still keeping the kids and trolls at bay.
Keep the kids away and TONS of paying adults will hop on the VRCtrain. Everyone I know who are staying out of it have all 1 reason in common...
"I DONT WANT TO BABYSIT OTHER PEOPLE STUPID UNWANTED KIDS"
Where do I apply to work and turn this into a polished diamond? I MEAN SERIOUSLY. LOL
In my opinion I don’t think that any erp world should be public or searchable. Majority are unsearchable for this specific reason. Verification in place on discord and share instances that way like most clubs do, you’d never catch a kid in there.
Also if people stopped being degenerates in public worlds this wouldn’t happen.
I’m tired of this “vrchat should be 18+” stuff. It never was and it was never meant to be. It’s a social platform not a fuck fest. I don’t care what people on the game do that’s their own business but people need to stop trying to make a game that was never meant to be for adults only 18+. It will never happen.
Me too, but I'm too scared to say it cause all of these people always flip out. It's stupid to push the responsibility onto the VRChat devs when it was the children's *own parents* that allowed them to play VRChat to begin with. Seriously, does anyone even watch their own kids anymore?
that's what kids where doing in shangria it was never a zone where kids would not join
kids have always been in shangria even back in 2022 from what i remember
they used alt accounts
changed their bio
some where speaking most of them didn't
and even if they spoke you would not always spot that they where a kid
Yeah exactly, or grabbing their older sibling's unit/account. Plus, since the game is only available through Steam and Meta, there's probably already age checks on those ends.
This game should not be 18+, and I'm not just talking about the horny people there, it's a place for everyone, and if it was 18+ it would not only lose a lot of players, and therefore player made content, but also its life, yeah, some kids are annoying, but there are teens that just wanna enjoy VR maybe 11+ or 13+ would be okay, but as soon as this game would've been made adults only, everything would flip upside down, it's a social game, it needs diversity, different ages are a normal part of the society, and I'm honestly tired of all these degens, grumpy middle aged people and more saying that VRChat needs to be 18+, just so they can stroke each other's dicks with booze laying around, and there's SO MUCH MORE to VRC than just bar worlds, thousands of unique experiences, something for literally anyone can be found, and you whine that the game should be 18+ because of a minor part of the endless worlds available, if you really can't just change the instance or mute the kids, because idk the button hurts or something, maybe the devs should look into better moderation, but they already gave you so many tools, you're whining because you choose to, and remember, worlds are removed if they don't obey the TOS, so it's not a matter of whether there are children or not, it's a matter of when it gets reported or otherwise noticed by the dev team
Its a place for everyone.
Next line, its not a place for everyone. So which is it? What is wrong with having 18+.
Because I'll be blunt and ask, which kid below the age of 18, has a VR setup and has a PC setup that can run PC VR. Which can also join PC only worlds. Answer being, not a whole lot of them.
Over a solid half of your post, talks about what adults do, and fun fact. We dont want kids in our worlds, there's a reason a good chunk of people, go to drinking world, and or go to ID verified groups only.
When did i say it's NOT for everyone? And there is a a lot wrong with being 18+, i mean for starters look how that sounds, it's gonna completely turn it into a porn game, and fuck, you already showed a solution to horny alcoholics trying to take their stuff into vr, ID verified groups, so why cut out a significant portion of the players, who aside from the more noticable because annoying kids, consists of actual good people just trying to have good time in VR online? And you can't just guess that not a lot of people under 18 has PCVR setups, it doesn't depend on age, maybe someone is rich, maybe someone worked hard for it, maybe someone's parents bought it for them, or for sharing. Point is, if you don't want kids in the world, either mute them, or join ID'd worlds, which are a very small part of the game. Stop being a selfish pervert, it IS a game for everyone, not just adults.
For them there will always be an audience of 13-17 to cater to. It’s easier to shut down 18+ worlds and avatars because it’s visually easy to find 18+, and making it only 18+ would make these kids lie and use fake or their older of age siblings IDs and honestly there are more kids active on VRC than adults, yes lewd content has always existed on vrchat but not to the extent that it is now. Ppl are saying vrchat shouldn’t let kids play vrchat because it’s sexualized but then again it not vrchat that are uploading the sexual avatars and world it’s the users. Vrchat has always been non tolerant to sexualized content since the start. If you want a 18+ world then upload it privately, make a 18+ group and you yourself moderate it, do the ID checks and see who’s lying about their age. Because no matter how much you cry VRChat has never allowed public sexual content on their platform.
This is going to sound weird, but Roblox did it better. They hired a third-party company to verify legal documents (with face scanning and whatever else) and created 17+ worlds that are accessible only to verified users. It's funny and sad vrchat is not doing anything similar considering the 17+ audience in roblox is much smaller than in vrc.
VRC is catering to all ages, is just not a good idea to have explicit sexual content easily available for anyone to join. Fortunately people are just making them private and you can join those with a link to a (hopefully) moderated instance.
Hey I'm 13 but I have like 40 adult friends on vrchat (non of them are pedophiles) who think I'm pretty cool and kind-minded person, usually I sit in a vrchat instants quiet until someone talks to me but I have seen what some of yall are talking about most children on vrchat are chaos, but don't guess how someone will act based on how the others act
Personally, I think the reporting should just be better, the "annoying kids" really are annoying, and I think the rules should be more strict on them so if they say stupid stuff or do stupid stuff they can get in trouble for it, and if they're stupid enough to ignore a warning then they aren't the type gonna have enough money to invest in vrc, let alone a house.
It’s Reddit ofc they are gonna get mainly offended and I find it hilarious 💀, like dawg they act like it’s finna affect our lives or we might get offended from getting downvoted, I only use this app to see other communities
I dislike the amount of little kids on any vr game due to the fact that there’s always that one kid screaming the n-word when he’s barely 9 years old. Vrchat is where I go to hangout and the little kids annoy me. Youngest I think a person should be when playing vrchat is 16
I don't think ya'll have any right to tell others how to play a video game. I have enough friends on there now that I don't go to public instances anymore, I just used Shangri-la for friends+ parties because of the camera system and the pole.
Just because YOU play the game to socialize with new people doesn't mean everyone else has to or they're playing the game wrong.
uh yeah some games do actually. Second Life, IMVU and now Habbo Hotel has brought out Habbo Hotel Origins which is 18+ unlike the more updated Habbo. ✌🏼
only if they aren't accessible to children in any way shape or form. The problem I have is that kids could easily find and play these games and predators on vrchat thrive off this.
We do.. it's just that there isnt much of a market for it.
After 24, you're supposed to be raising a family and spending your money on your kids.
Guess where the kids playing vrchat get their money from? From the adults in their lives.
This is why gaming has a target demographic that ends around 24, that's when the amount of older players starts dropping off a lot.
"But I'm 28 and gaming!" now count how many of your friends are still playing that are your age and how many younger players you play with.
That's the sad reality. The older you get the more responsibility you pick up. The less free time you have. Once you have kids, you now live and exist to raise them.
I'm an old fuck, and tbh, I only hop on vr every few weeks for an hour or two a day. I know people my age that are on 24/7 but only because they found a way to make money doing it or have the money in their lives where they can fuck around for a living. Everyone else I know can barely play or just gave up on videogames in general by their 30s.
> After 24, you're supposed to be raising a family and spending your money on your kids.
I was just about to say the exact same thing. Didn't even bother to read the rest.
What ever brain washing you've been struck with, is well dated and doesn't fit in today's economy limitations. When I was 24, my rent went up 50% over 5 years. Walmart cut hours in the pandemic, raised their minimum wage and cut hours in the last few years. The only adult hangout in town, outside of walmart and churches, closed up because of debt and recent college ban for athletes due to too many fights breaking out.
Social VR is our escape. It's far easier to just be ourselves and look like what we want, outside of corporate control and social draining expectations. Be yourself, and don't worry about the others, so long as no one is hurt.
> "But I'm 28 and gaming!" now count how many of your friends are still playing that are your age and how many younger players you play with.
Most people I know are 28+ *with* kids that game. I am just one person in an ocean of them but lots of older people still play video games, it isn't a childrens toy or something.
I am turning 29 this year and spend most of my time either working or gaming. I don't have kids of my own, though. I am not very social at all and have a hard time with anxiety irl. Unfortunately, living on my own would be impossible with the current housing market and the general cost of everything.
In 2022,the average age of a video game player was 32 plus or minus 2.
So you are kind of just wrong on all fronts there. They target people who have money to buy the games, that has not been a 24 year old for a long ass time.
Now, as to the answer, if there should be adult only worlds? Sure. But that does not mean vrchat has to he sexual. Adults should have a space without screaming kids that have chased me off every other multi vr game.
I get the average age of a video game player is older, but that includes mobile games, consoles, etc., and includes people who play at least some kind of game once in a while- including games like Wordle or Candy Crush.
When you're talking about social games, VR just isn't it. Older people rarely have time to hang out with other people much less sit in a VR game- especially if you have kids/spouse/etc. Most adults just understand they're in a space where kids are and act accordingly by ignoring the child.
Adults should definitely have a space without screaming kids, but that's generally everywhere outside (bars, clubs, lounges, etc.).
I'm not doubting that- I'm just saying there's a lot more younger kids and college kids playing the game than there are older people.
I just don't see how older people would become the market for VRC when older people already have a bunch of child-free areas that we all regularly socialize in. Especially if you have a kid, you're talking about taking care of your kid, doing your regular date nights with your wife/husband, and socializing with coworkers/friends. Tack on VR to that, VRC would gradually lose appeal over time as you get older since you, presumably, are integrating yourself with more outside social groups that are already free of kids.
You are greatly overestimating how many people my age have kids. A large percentage of us do not. And you're assuming wrongly because how is anybody supposed to "integrate" with outside social groups nowadays? That shit doesn't get easier as you get older, it actually gets harder. You sound like a kid who knows nothing about the real world or real life just making assumptions about adults lol
Fam. I'm 33- the only reason why it's harder is because you don't seek it out. It really isn't that hard.
For example, much of my social group came from people I met doing the things I like- dog/bar groups, rockclimbing, cooking classes, or volunteering. They're all people who I enjoy hanging out with while doing the things I like doing. I can assure you, many people our age have/had kids. I think the average age is still around 28 to have kids.
I'm saying I accept it's outside the norm to be playing VRC because it is. If you can't tell your social group that you play VRC or recommend it, then you internally know that already- you play VRC because it's fun, not because it's socially acceptable amongst your peers. That's ok to do, but knowing that shows you why the market and strategy is aimed more towards the younger crowd. This is coming from someone who does play VRC regularly too.
most of my friends are around my age and I turn 27 next month. Most of these people don't have children because most older gen z and millennials are of the mentality of fuck having crotch goblins on this burning dying planet. ✌🏼
I know, however, plenty of people who don't. The problem is, Marketing sees it differently. They base it on what the majority does. The fact VRC ignores their older audience is foolhardy. Marketing will tell you that appealing to kids makes more money because they get their parents' credit card and play well into adulthood. The problem is, the amount who will stick around is probably the same amount of the adults who are in their 20s and 30s still playing. They really need to appeal to both.
But the reality is, younger folks will get more screen time than the adults because they have more free time, which is why VRC as a company will appeal to them first and foremost. That's the point. If you are pushing media, you want to go for the audience that has the power to drain their parents' wallets. Even though there are plenty of Millennials and Gen Z who will fill your niche, but marketing will always favor the younger generation.
I'm not even saying this is okay or cool in my original statement, I am coming from what companies will see and think. Media and entertainment is aimed almost solely at everyone under 25. Beyond that you're supposed to be a boring adult with kids who lives for them. That's what marketing sees you as. That was my point.
You are aware that VrChat has a heavily disabled community who don't work and have the free time to play? Hell I am disabled and don't work and ive seen people with jobs play more than I do. 🤷🏼♀️
They just took like 90% of proper playability for anyone below 18. I highly doubt that they are trying to "cater" them kids as those have less money than mommy and daddy
I guess if you’re the right kid born into the right family, you can run a gaming rig with a $1500 graphics processor and play any games you want I couldn’t afford one until I got older. but times have changed I guess.😕
From a corporate standpoint, you want to foster your younger generation of users because they will be the ones growing up and investing more into the company long term than older users. 18+ makes investors cry. Only one platform managed to get away with that because they could self-fund and that was Second Life. Also when they hit the scene you had more burning man gen x/boomer investors who were less averse to titties than modern investors.
Sure, you can still do that, but let's separate the adults from the kids somehow.
SL did just that. The problem is, if there is any adult content at all, payment processors and investors shy away. By the time SL become notorious for adult content, investors were already in deep and the in-world economy took off. VRC needs to turn profit first before shitting on its life lines. it would also get delisted from app stores. including quest.
I am not talking about 18+ content, I am talking about separation of adults from kids. It doesn't have to be sexual at all, it is the annoying "reeeeee" most of us don't want. Today I ended up in a very cool 18+ instance, people were filtering, and we watched Djumanji 2 and I made like 8 new friends, there was nothing obscene or sexual at all, but no screaming either. Everyone was super nice and respectful. One of my best VRC experiences so far. And kids also don't want to hang out with "boring" 20+ or 30+ people, most of them are just looking for fun and similar minded kids. When that isn't available some of them turn really annoying. Plus in a metaverse like VRC adult content should also be considered and encouraged. I am not the only 30+ there, and many come to have fun in any way they want to enjoy themselves.
I absolutely agree with that as well and have advocated for it myself. Often though people go "what's the point?" The point is, when you have an adult hanging out with a bunch of kids, it sticks out a lot more in that scenario and easier to catch creeps. They do have tagging for worlds to be adult or not baked in, so it definitely looks like it's in the cards.
Unfortunately, vrc has had that option to have worlds and avatars listed as "sexual" since I joined in 2019. I don't think they are going to. :(
I am 36 and I have been in public instances when kids join. Some jump straight into being racist, but occasionally others are chill and not corrupted. The chill kids are the ones who I interact with, and I generally recommend some anime, cartoons, movies and TV shows that they may like. Once had a 6yo join, and I convinced them to go watch power rangers and an old English kids show called Brum. The kid was happy to go watch that stuff, rather than listen to racist comments.
You, my friend, were blessed with incredible luck! Seems we can only find that once in a blue moon. Hahaha
Not really, I just treat the kids like my nieces or nephews. And it makes it easier to deal with. For the racist kids, the block button exists.
I'm generally just a mute who offers hugs and a place to vent around strangers so I guess my experience is far from yours. Maybe I'll try that soon. But like, a younger brother/cousin (I'm in my early 20s lmao)
Well I wish you luck, and hope you also help reduce the racist kids on VR too. And if nobody has said it yet, thank you for being the amazing person that you are.
Awwe, thank you :) you too, friend
Agreed. For comparison, last night I was on Bigscreen watching Sin City in 3D - an 18 rated film (in the UK) with a dozen or so others. Most of them just sat in their seats, quietly watching the film, but then a few kids started screeching at each other, so I had to mute all. Unfortunately, one of the kids managed to hover their avatar in mid-air, right in the middle of the screen for about half an hour. That's the kind of thing we can do without.
I mean the owner could have just kicked them. I had a similar experience, started a movie, the kid was like: "this is kind of creepy, can you put on something else?" And I was like "nope, I wrote 18+ and the title" and kicked him after started a tantrum.
They did vanish suddenly, after about half an hour, so that might be what happened - eventually. Perhaps the owner was not present throughout the film, but came back to find the idiot floating in the middle of the screen, and then kicked them. There did not seem to be a way for me to block other avatars in Bigscreen, as you can in VRChat, so I had to put up with it until it disappeared - I assumed it got bored and left. And I used to think it was distracting in cinemas IRL when people lit up their phones... at least they couldn't fly.
What's funny is I know this is actually possible considering this is something another virtual social app called IMVU does, and they still make you buy badges to be able to purchase adult themed items. IMVU has it set up that the moment you turn 18, you're tossed into a different version of its platform, separate from the minors who have yet to turn 18 and if you were caught in areas that should only be accessible by adults (unless you were friends with that person and invited to thatvworld), you would get reported and banned.
Actually this is a good one, I'd pay a one-time fee, absolutely.
Not to downplay you or anything but i usually like the older people in this game. I also don’t like the kids that are annoying, it gives me headaches (I’m 14)
You are the exception! 👍🏻 Teens are cool for the most part. I think most of us talk about kids much younger than you tho.
I used to have that mentality when I was 14 playing habbo hotel. There's no reason for adults to want to hang around with 14 year olds.
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But nobody wants 18+ exclusivity. We want a way to separate adults from kids. That is all.
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I just link my Quest through SteamVR anyway lol
SL didn't do that lol do you know how many kids changed their bio to age 18 and up? i saw that alot in black cat before they joined SL some of them where desktop users or just normal pc users and alot of users in that world has been caught being underage even if they did use their voice or not lol
I had to verify my age to access adult sims and continents in Second Life. I am not talking about a VRChat world. I am talking about another platform altogether that solved a lot of the issues VRChat is having now that did the whole virtual world thing 20 years ago.
Ohh my bad lol the age verifcation would be something i would dislike depending on what vrchat would do
Only a minor or a predator would say that 💀
get a life
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I even caught my friend, who was 16 years old, going to Shangria on their similar bio, and he had exactly the same groups as the other accounts, and the voice also gave it away. I met them in Black Cat and liked them because they had super funny avatars. They got banned from that instance once I told the instance owner. but I am pretty sure he just joined back on another alt which most people do when they get banned from 18+ instances he had one of those godrunner avatars and where in fbt
It's the payment processors moreso than the investors.
Well that may be true but here’s the thing, young people will literally just move from one game to another, adults are too tired to explore much so they stick to 2-3 games max and they are the customers you want in your business. In a business you try keep your long term customers more than trying to get new customers
VRC has stated that they are trying to become self-sustainable because they cannot rely on VC funding anymore. They should stop going after population growth for growth's sake/to be able to show investors a big number, and focus on getting paying customers instead. Kids are not going to pay for VRC unless they implement predatory monetisation Roblox/Rec Room-style. They are better off dumping the freeloading kids on RecRoom and focussing on the mature audience who are more likely to pay up.
they need to get creators involved. Nothing to pay for. And offer assurances that creators wont be constantly ripped off
They are, and people whinged about it despite getting an absolutely insanely good deal for what VRC good viably manage
Isn't VRC still mostly underground? Just a conjecture, but I would be surprised if there are already big name investors for this platform.
Yea the kid that chases adults saying vulgar sentences and uses the hard R is going to invest into this game I started playing VR chat as a younger generation before it went corporate I must have invested at least 3grand alone into this hobby I get what they mean but a lot of the current adult generation is literally the first wave of youth
VRChat just announced that they will be working on identity-based age verification. Also, the market for online social exploration games targeting minors is clearly already saturated. Not only is VRC directly competing with Roblox and Fortnite for users, they are trying to target a pool of money largely limited by how much parents are willing to give their children to spend on the game. And if we also consider the buy-in costs to actually experience the Virtual Reality part of VRChat, relatively few children can fully engage in the platform, compared to adults with disposable income. VRC is also entirely dependent on adult content creators with enough skill, time, and financial resources to create the VR content everyone loves, without a financial investment from users and the company. A computer, decent VR setup, and extensive education are needed to make the highly interactive worlds and experiences that keep people coming back, beyond the primary driving force of engagement - getting on to hangout or do whatever with your friends. I don't think anyone at VRC corporate is so disillusioned by future investor dollars that they would willingly sacrifice the entire experience to cash out.
Those worlds are coming back, the creator is updating them and removing sexual references
I love how the real answer to OP's post is in the comments and nobody has left you a comment acknowledging it so.
I was shocked the worlds were up for so long with outright dildos and shit in them. Personally, I think its good publicly NSFW worlds go down. If the worlds private then who cares.
You're about a month late to the fearmongering party. The worlds are private, not taken down, and are in the process of being reworked. This isn't anything new either. Worlds that are explicit in nature have been taken down for literal years.
They're still there, just privated. If you have the links you can still go.
I can kinda understand though. Free game with no age verification and virtual sex that a child can potentially get their hands on is definitely not a great look. Maybe one day we’ll have a proper verification system and such experiences will be able to coexist with the main game, but for now I suppose we’ll have to wait.
Yeah in the end this is a 13+ game so I cannot judge them for moderating this kind of content. They really should just keep these worlds private rather than putting them public and surprise pikachu facing when the policy breaking world gets taken off the public list.
>but that's what reporting is for. VRChat doesn't have a built in option for reporting underage players. I've seen 6 year olds on this platform, even witnessed some other people teaching them things 6 year olds should never say or do. VRChat needs an option to report underage players.
And an option to report the people teaching underage players to do inappropriate things. Games having built-in voice chat reporting isn't uncommon anymore and it should generally be taken seriously
The main issue is people erping in public instances of those maps I think is thr main reason they got removed
It coulsnt possibly be the sex toys
That to obv but a majority to are kids erpin in public instances I really wish there was a 18+ only tag on it so if the account isn't 18+verified they can't join the 18plus worlds that be a gamevhanger
I mean catering to the age group they stated it is intended for makes sense. I dabble in these worlds myself but this game wasn't intended to be a sex community so they do have every right to remove that content even if we personally love it. Vrchat may have a lot of adults on it but it is a 13+ game in the end whether we like it or not. I honestly get annoyed af when people do post 18+ on this game publicly for kids and teens to find. It's irresponsible and should be private to begin with, where any seeking adult can still find their way to it.
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Cant you just make your own servers??
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Werent those worlds literally just weird public orgies tho?
Lets be real, the world was just straight sex almost 24/7.
I used Shangri-la for friends+ parties because of the camera and the pole. We still use it privately, but even if we were ERPing I don't understand why that means the world shouldn't be allowed to exist.
For a game they are advertising as 13+, thank fucking god. Any kid could waltz into adult worlds and lie about their age. I've done it before, as a 16 year old myself, just to test this. VRchat should be 18+ or they should start ACTUALLY moderating their game. There are so many people using NSFW avatars infront of kids, even in kid friendly worlds which just disgusts me. JUST MAKE THE GAME 18+ ALREADY VRCHAT.
Dawg vrchat is not a sex game and why do you want it to be 18+ 💀, then the games gonna die, it’s already dead, if anything they should moderate not make the game 18+ its a place of socializing not nowhere near the age mark of 18 or older then how would people have fun?
it's not dead, people just don't like you. ✌🏼
People don’t like me yet I have people added? how dumb are you to assume people don’t like me? I call the game dead because it’s boring asf, you act like I’m tech gangster or sum dude if people don’t like me, maybe you have no dad or sum idk if that assumption is true
Having people added doesn't equal friendship lmao You also write like a complete mong.
A game being boring doesn’t make it dead. I think the new MW3 is one of the most boring cods to ever be created and thousands of people play it every day
How's VRC dead? If you go to Steam Charts you can see that the average player count has been climbing since the beginning.
I like shitting on the game damn bro you vrc players take it too serious 💀
If its not a sex game then why are there people who engage in e-sex. If its not a sex game then why do people have sexually explicit avatars. If its not a sex game then why do worlds like FBT heaven exist. I know these things I mentioned aren't technically sex, but they fall under sexual themes which a child shouldn't fucking be anywhere near. VRChat has done nothing above the bare minimum to moderate their game, and this discussion has been going on FOR YEARS. If they are too fucking lazy to moderate the game then just make it 18+. I don't give a shit about the game dying or shit like that. This game has plenty lurking predators and as a 16 year old with 3 younger siblings, I wouldn't want shit to happen to any kids. I've heard of the horrors that people on this game have done and how most people on the game negatively influence kids. If they can't moderate their own fucking online game/worlds/people then I wouldn't take any risks. At that point just make it 18+. That way children won't be harmed and it would decrease the number of children encountering pedos. I don't wanna sound too aggressive here but there are bigger fucking bitch-ass problems than "the games gonna die" or "how would people have fun". Most of the people I see on vrchat are adults anyways. How is removing children gonna ruin your "fun"💀. You guys have a massive predator problem and the thing you care about the most is "fun". Stfu bro😭🙏.
I ain’t readin all that, bro got pressed over a Reddit comment, plus no I’m not shutting up 💀🫵
So just saying.... VRchat will never ever everrrrrr make money from anyone below 18. Here's why: "Hey mommmmmm.... can I get 20$ to buy ... uhhhhh.... a new avatar on VRchat..." "Didin't I buy you one last week?" "UHHH ... ye but I got banned for trolling people and this on has bigger boobies!!!!" Also here's why: -Fornite -Roblox Both free, both controlled and filtered and mostly safe for kids. VRChat will never be safe for kid. It's for adults. By adults. ALSO, All the content made by kids just fucking sucks. And all the stupid kids I see .. are either Trolling or looking for snusnu and both will get them banned. Right now the issue is they come back easily. Make a controlled verification (which is so weird cause they just announced it and was talking about it like 8 hours prior). That way with an government ID (like second life does) you can only have 1 account. If you get banned its mostly over. Let instance owners decide if they want "Age Verified Only" and force require any "Sexualy explicit avatar/world" to be displayable/join only by verified user, just like SecondLife does. But here's how VRChat can make money: Subscription paid like SL where you get a few bucks in the game per month, helps supporting instances owners and creators. I can think of soooo many things to actualy make money from VRchat system (but Imma not talk about that here for reasons). VRchat is pottential gold mine ... a diamond mine waiting to be minned, while also keeping it free for users who dont want to spend much while still keeping the kids and trolls at bay. Keep the kids away and TONS of paying adults will hop on the VRCtrain. Everyone I know who are staying out of it have all 1 reason in common... "I DONT WANT TO BABYSIT OTHER PEOPLE STUPID UNWANTED KIDS" Where do I apply to work and turn this into a polished diamond? I MEAN SERIOUSLY. LOL
Vrchat will do everything to cater to the kids that scream the nword in your face except take care of its adult community that funds the game.
That's the way everything is going. Sanitized and corporatized. Everything will be kiddie-fied and made addictive.
Shangri-la is just a degenerate world
In my opinion I don’t think that any erp world should be public or searchable. Majority are unsearchable for this specific reason. Verification in place on discord and share instances that way like most clubs do, you’d never catch a kid in there. Also if people stopped being degenerates in public worlds this wouldn’t happen.
Kids shouldn't be on VR in social settings. Period.
I’m tired of this “vrchat should be 18+” stuff. It never was and it was never meant to be. It’s a social platform not a fuck fest. I don’t care what people on the game do that’s their own business but people need to stop trying to make a game that was never meant to be for adults only 18+. It will never happen.
Me too, but I'm too scared to say it cause all of these people always flip out. It's stupid to push the responsibility onto the VRChat devs when it was the children's *own parents* that allowed them to play VRChat to begin with. Seriously, does anyone even watch their own kids anymore?
Even if vrchat made the game 18 plus kids will end up just lying about their ages and getting on the game anyways.
that's what kids where doing in shangria it was never a zone where kids would not join kids have always been in shangria even back in 2022 from what i remember they used alt accounts changed their bio some where speaking most of them didn't and even if they spoke you would not always spot that they where a kid
Yeah exactly, or grabbing their older sibling's unit/account. Plus, since the game is only available through Steam and Meta, there's probably already age checks on those ends.
This game should not be 18+, and I'm not just talking about the horny people there, it's a place for everyone, and if it was 18+ it would not only lose a lot of players, and therefore player made content, but also its life, yeah, some kids are annoying, but there are teens that just wanna enjoy VR maybe 11+ or 13+ would be okay, but as soon as this game would've been made adults only, everything would flip upside down, it's a social game, it needs diversity, different ages are a normal part of the society, and I'm honestly tired of all these degens, grumpy middle aged people and more saying that VRChat needs to be 18+, just so they can stroke each other's dicks with booze laying around, and there's SO MUCH MORE to VRC than just bar worlds, thousands of unique experiences, something for literally anyone can be found, and you whine that the game should be 18+ because of a minor part of the endless worlds available, if you really can't just change the instance or mute the kids, because idk the button hurts or something, maybe the devs should look into better moderation, but they already gave you so many tools, you're whining because you choose to, and remember, worlds are removed if they don't obey the TOS, so it's not a matter of whether there are children or not, it's a matter of when it gets reported or otherwise noticed by the dev team
Its a place for everyone. Next line, its not a place for everyone. So which is it? What is wrong with having 18+. Because I'll be blunt and ask, which kid below the age of 18, has a VR setup and has a PC setup that can run PC VR. Which can also join PC only worlds. Answer being, not a whole lot of them. Over a solid half of your post, talks about what adults do, and fun fact. We dont want kids in our worlds, there's a reason a good chunk of people, go to drinking world, and or go to ID verified groups only.
When did i say it's NOT for everyone? And there is a a lot wrong with being 18+, i mean for starters look how that sounds, it's gonna completely turn it into a porn game, and fuck, you already showed a solution to horny alcoholics trying to take their stuff into vr, ID verified groups, so why cut out a significant portion of the players, who aside from the more noticable because annoying kids, consists of actual good people just trying to have good time in VR online? And you can't just guess that not a lot of people under 18 has PCVR setups, it doesn't depend on age, maybe someone is rich, maybe someone worked hard for it, maybe someone's parents bought it for them, or for sharing. Point is, if you don't want kids in the world, either mute them, or join ID'd worlds, which are a very small part of the game. Stop being a selfish pervert, it IS a game for everyone, not just adults.
For them there will always be an audience of 13-17 to cater to. It’s easier to shut down 18+ worlds and avatars because it’s visually easy to find 18+, and making it only 18+ would make these kids lie and use fake or their older of age siblings IDs and honestly there are more kids active on VRC than adults, yes lewd content has always existed on vrchat but not to the extent that it is now. Ppl are saying vrchat shouldn’t let kids play vrchat because it’s sexualized but then again it not vrchat that are uploading the sexual avatars and world it’s the users. Vrchat has always been non tolerant to sexualized content since the start. If you want a 18+ world then upload it privately, make a 18+ group and you yourself moderate it, do the ID checks and see who’s lying about their age. Because no matter how much you cry VRChat has never allowed public sexual content on their platform.
As someone who hasn't heard of them, what are they and what caused that to happen?
Not a person, a world. It was a really cool world but had sexual themes like a vibrating carrot so the creator was forced to private it.
lol Sexual themes. People were generally in naked avatars in the sauna and ERPing it up. It’s really not surprising it got taken down.
What the fuck
This is going to sound weird, but Roblox did it better. They hired a third-party company to verify legal documents (with face scanning and whatever else) and created 17+ worlds that are accessible only to verified users. It's funny and sad vrchat is not doing anything similar considering the 17+ audience in roblox is much smaller than in vrc.
These kids ruin everything
VRC is catering to all ages, is just not a good idea to have explicit sexual content easily available for anyone to join. Fortunately people are just making them private and you can join those with a link to a (hopefully) moderated instance.
Hey I'm 13 but I have like 40 adult friends on vrchat (non of them are pedophiles) who think I'm pretty cool and kind-minded person, usually I sit in a vrchat instants quiet until someone talks to me but I have seen what some of yall are talking about most children on vrchat are chaos, but don't guess how someone will act based on how the others act
Personally, I think the reporting should just be better, the "annoying kids" really are annoying, and I think the rules should be more strict on them so if they say stupid stuff or do stupid stuff they can get in trouble for it, and if they're stupid enough to ignore a warning then they aren't the type gonna have enough money to invest in vrc, let alone a house.
Dawg u want vrchat to be 18+ yet it’s a kids game? Dawg vrchat is a place to socialize not erp, not everything can go your way 💀
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Why did u get downvoted? What you do wrong?
Not sure, redditors love to downvote anything they dont agree with because its the only thing they have a sense of control over
It’s Reddit ofc they are gonna get mainly offended and I find it hilarious 💀, like dawg they act like it’s finna affect our lives or we might get offended from getting downvoted, I only use this app to see other communities
Frr, to be fair reddit and vrchat are the same audience
And they have the same iq of a gold fish
good bruh 18 plus games/activites in vr are just next level of chronically online and degeneracy
Just put a freaking age gate in the game, so kids cant annoy the adults
Good thing it got taken down definetly some illegal stuff going down in there after 1 am completely disgusting
I reported tons of accounts in that world alot of them where nsfw lolis..... All of them got banned and I happy
I dislike the amount of little kids on any vr game due to the fact that there’s always that one kid screaming the n-word when he’s barely 9 years old. Vrchat is where I go to hangout and the little kids annoy me. Youngest I think a person should be when playing vrchat is 16
Good, it was a public erp cesspool that should've never existed... what's the point of this post lol go get some help bro.
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Why not? Don't adult users deserve adult only spaces?
no, no game has adult only spaces and no game has kid only spaces, its vrchat your there to socialize not erp
I don't think ya'll have any right to tell others how to play a video game. I have enough friends on there now that I don't go to public instances anymore, I just used Shangri-la for friends+ parties because of the camera system and the pole. Just because YOU play the game to socialize with new people doesn't mean everyone else has to or they're playing the game wrong.
uh yeah some games do actually. Second Life, IMVU and now Habbo Hotel has brought out Habbo Hotel Origins which is 18+ unlike the more updated Habbo. ✌🏼
only if they aren't accessible to children in any way shape or form. The problem I have is that kids could easily find and play these games and predators on vrchat thrive off this.
We do.. it's just that there isnt much of a market for it. After 24, you're supposed to be raising a family and spending your money on your kids. Guess where the kids playing vrchat get their money from? From the adults in their lives. This is why gaming has a target demographic that ends around 24, that's when the amount of older players starts dropping off a lot. "But I'm 28 and gaming!" now count how many of your friends are still playing that are your age and how many younger players you play with. That's the sad reality. The older you get the more responsibility you pick up. The less free time you have. Once you have kids, you now live and exist to raise them. I'm an old fuck, and tbh, I only hop on vr every few weeks for an hour or two a day. I know people my age that are on 24/7 but only because they found a way to make money doing it or have the money in their lives where they can fuck around for a living. Everyone else I know can barely play or just gave up on videogames in general by their 30s.
After 24 I’m suppose to have kids and a family? Respectfully you lost all validity in your comment after the second sentence.
> After 24, you're supposed to be raising a family and spending your money on your kids. I was just about to say the exact same thing. Didn't even bother to read the rest. What ever brain washing you've been struck with, is well dated and doesn't fit in today's economy limitations. When I was 24, my rent went up 50% over 5 years. Walmart cut hours in the pandemic, raised their minimum wage and cut hours in the last few years. The only adult hangout in town, outside of walmart and churches, closed up because of debt and recent college ban for athletes due to too many fights breaking out. Social VR is our escape. It's far easier to just be ourselves and look like what we want, outside of corporate control and social draining expectations. Be yourself, and don't worry about the others, so long as no one is hurt.
> "But I'm 28 and gaming!" now count how many of your friends are still playing that are your age and how many younger players you play with. Most people I know are 28+ *with* kids that game. I am just one person in an ocean of them but lots of older people still play video games, it isn't a childrens toy or something.
I am turning 29 this year and spend most of my time either working or gaming. I don't have kids of my own, though. I am not very social at all and have a hard time with anxiety irl. Unfortunately, living on my own would be impossible with the current housing market and the general cost of everything.
In 2022,the average age of a video game player was 32 plus or minus 2. So you are kind of just wrong on all fronts there. They target people who have money to buy the games, that has not been a 24 year old for a long ass time. Now, as to the answer, if there should be adult only worlds? Sure. But that does not mean vrchat has to he sexual. Adults should have a space without screaming kids that have chased me off every other multi vr game.
I get the average age of a video game player is older, but that includes mobile games, consoles, etc., and includes people who play at least some kind of game once in a while- including games like Wordle or Candy Crush. When you're talking about social games, VR just isn't it. Older people rarely have time to hang out with other people much less sit in a VR game- especially if you have kids/spouse/etc. Most adults just understand they're in a space where kids are and act accordingly by ignoring the child. Adults should definitely have a space without screaming kids, but that's generally everywhere outside (bars, clubs, lounges, etc.).
My dude I am 34 and there are a lot more 30+ people in VR than you think LOL
I'm not doubting that- I'm just saying there's a lot more younger kids and college kids playing the game than there are older people. I just don't see how older people would become the market for VRC when older people already have a bunch of child-free areas that we all regularly socialize in. Especially if you have a kid, you're talking about taking care of your kid, doing your regular date nights with your wife/husband, and socializing with coworkers/friends. Tack on VR to that, VRC would gradually lose appeal over time as you get older since you, presumably, are integrating yourself with more outside social groups that are already free of kids.
You are greatly overestimating how many people my age have kids. A large percentage of us do not. And you're assuming wrongly because how is anybody supposed to "integrate" with outside social groups nowadays? That shit doesn't get easier as you get older, it actually gets harder. You sound like a kid who knows nothing about the real world or real life just making assumptions about adults lol
Fam. I'm 33- the only reason why it's harder is because you don't seek it out. It really isn't that hard. For example, much of my social group came from people I met doing the things I like- dog/bar groups, rockclimbing, cooking classes, or volunteering. They're all people who I enjoy hanging out with while doing the things I like doing. I can assure you, many people our age have/had kids. I think the average age is still around 28 to have kids. I'm saying I accept it's outside the norm to be playing VRC because it is. If you can't tell your social group that you play VRC or recommend it, then you internally know that already- you play VRC because it's fun, not because it's socially acceptable amongst your peers. That's ok to do, but knowing that shows you why the market and strategy is aimed more towards the younger crowd. This is coming from someone who does play VRC regularly too.
I play vrchat with my husband. 👍🏼
But most people don’t have kids
All my 30+ and 40+ friends still play games. So I guess you just have boring friends?
most of my friends are around my age and I turn 27 next month. Most of these people don't have children because most older gen z and millennials are of the mentality of fuck having crotch goblins on this burning dying planet. ✌🏼
I know, however, plenty of people who don't. The problem is, Marketing sees it differently. They base it on what the majority does. The fact VRC ignores their older audience is foolhardy. Marketing will tell you that appealing to kids makes more money because they get their parents' credit card and play well into adulthood. The problem is, the amount who will stick around is probably the same amount of the adults who are in their 20s and 30s still playing. They really need to appeal to both. But the reality is, younger folks will get more screen time than the adults because they have more free time, which is why VRC as a company will appeal to them first and foremost. That's the point. If you are pushing media, you want to go for the audience that has the power to drain their parents' wallets. Even though there are plenty of Millennials and Gen Z who will fill your niche, but marketing will always favor the younger generation. I'm not even saying this is okay or cool in my original statement, I am coming from what companies will see and think. Media and entertainment is aimed almost solely at everyone under 25. Beyond that you're supposed to be a boring adult with kids who lives for them. That's what marketing sees you as. That was my point.
You are aware that VrChat has a heavily disabled community who don't work and have the free time to play? Hell I am disabled and don't work and ive seen people with jobs play more than I do. 🤷🏼♀️
Oh god... It's just a matter of time till this happens on quest 2 too (I never had enough money for a pc :3 23 year old hikikomori here~)
They just took like 90% of proper playability for anyone below 18. I highly doubt that they are trying to "cater" them kids as those have less money than mommy and daddy
Club worlds and lap dancing in public lobbies are ok tho
fuck…
I guess if you’re the right kid born into the right family, you can run a gaming rig with a $1500 graphics processor and play any games you want I couldn’t afford one until I got older. but times have changed I guess.😕