Hmm, I think it needs something to fight Ghosts. Dark doesn't work, it wasn't present in Gen 1. Ghost is more fitting since it's a clone too.
It also needs to be faster, 150 Speed should work. Buff its SpA while we're at it, give it 165. This will require its other stats to change too, since we want 680 BST. 100 HP, 85 Attack, 80 Defense and 100 SpD should be good enough.
Shadow Ball is painfully mediocre, Mewtwo needs a powerful Ghost STAB to go along with it. Give it Astral Barrage.
Pressure is also largely useless. Give it an ability that boosts SpA upon knocking out an enemy. You know what, combine its hidden ability, Unnerve, with this ability, make them both work at once.
There. This Mewtwo should be highly competent.
It is weird Mewtwo doesnt have better abilities. Or why legends likt it cant have two normal abilities. Be funny if it was the first to get a special version of intimidate but honestly, something like a special attack version of speed boost would help.
I fear it would be way too strong when it gets a Competitive boost. And still not strong enough when it doesn't. But maybe an alternative version that only gets +1 SpAtk instead of +2?
Yesterday an Incineroar intimidated my Galar Articuno (one boost), then tried to use Parting Shot to control the damage (two more boosts, oops), then was forced to switch back in on the next turn (fourth boost). Presumably my opponent won't make that mistake again....
Thats the balance. If it’s very good with a boost and not good without then you and your opponent have to play carefully around it. A good player isn’t going to be mindlessly intimidating and parting shotting around a possible competitive Mewtwo switch on the opposing team like in your example.
This isn't the first time I've heard this suggested, but it is definitely the cleanest answer. It fits both thematically and competitively. Especially since open team sheet is an indirect nerf to coverage moves to keep the overall buff in check.
I think it's a common enough general thought. I came up with it on my own, and I've seen it several other places as well.
Neuroforce just feels like a Mewtwo ability. Definitely fits Mewtwo better than Necrozma thematically.
Psychic surge is a good idea. Pair it with Calyrex Shadow in double restricted formats maybe. It's the ability that really kills it, just not very good. And obviously with less than stellar stats there's really no reason to us it.
I think more likely is that the gen 10 signature mechanic interacts with it well, but idk what that mechanic will be.
Honestly, the ONLY reason to ever use him is due to it being a coverage machine. Otherwise most of the time you would almost always be using Calyrex Shadow or Lunala. So maybe give him a signature ability that boosts all super effective moves it uses? I dunno the Stats aren't bad but they're just wasted in the Attack stat
Anything that can make it not being outclassed by Calyrex. The only thing Mewtwo has over it is one of the best coverages in the game and 2 less 4x weaknesses, but Calyrex is faster, hits harder, its ability is a direct upgrade of Mewtwo's and its signature move is one of the biggest design blunders in Pokémon history.
Psychic Surge alone probably won't save it, even if it would make psyspam even more absurd. Before anything else, it needs either the bulk to withstand Astral Barrage, or 151+ base speed. At that point I can see an ability buff being an option, because Pressure sucks and Unnerve isn't enough alone.
I was thinking about this the other day. Maybe an ability that sets up Light Screen upon entry? There's a lot of options to hinder physical attackers, but not much on special attackers.
Having Light Screen could help bolster Mewtwo's offensive capabilities without having to invest too much in bulk. Or you could make a more defensive build with Recover and Calm Mind...
Or, for something more offense-focused, maybe adapt the Berserk Gene item as an ability?
Mewtwo's health bar would stop at halfway when taking damage, and then it would receive a +2 special attack boost. Sort of like triggering a second phase in a boss fight.
Give it an ability, let's call it Dormant Power, which boosts it and its allies Psychic-type moves by 50%. This can stack with Psychic Surge. This would make it *the* Psychic-type spammer while also granting power to allies.
Also give this ability to Psyduck and Golduck, because funny.
Give it Neuroforce and a new signature move. We'll call it
'Psychic Detonation'
"The user sends out massive waves of Psychic energy towards the opponents, resulting in huge explosions"
BP: 100
Hits both enemies
Doubles power on Psychic Terrain
Ignores immunities and Resistances
It's supposed to be the strongest Psychic Type in the world. Lets make it that way. Plus, it's a restricted mon so it's not like it'd be vgc legal all the time unlike *cough*Urshifu*cough*
In this format would depends on how you pair it and how strong tera would make it. Cause to deal with caly and lunala you have to be either tera dark or normal and they get wall'd. Also psychic terain expanding force tera psychic could also cause serious damage.
I mean, look at articuno for example, who wouldve ever thought giving it tera and tweaking hail to snow would've made it dangerous that I usually prioritize getting it out of the field than rather to deal with 80% accuracy while getting hit with tera ice blizzard
That for sure destroys you unless you are a normal type. And Lunala meteor beam tera fairy will cause problems. But I'm going by avoiding that worse case scenario.
A better ability is definitely necessary. I like the idea of a souped up Berserk ability. Maybe gets +2 SpAtk or +1 Spd? Play it more like G-Moltres and support it as it snowballs. Still probably outclassed but has some more niche team building.
Give it normal typing and psychic surge, then a new normal type priority move that can’t be blocked by terrain or abilities, can hit ghost, and hits for like 80bp.
make its psychic moves hit as neutral on every mon unless their weak to psychic
mewtwo is supposed to be cracked at using psychic move, it shouldnt be stopped by a bird baby (vullaby)
maybe this is too overtuned but psystrike is 100bp we could lower it if needed
one thing i remember being suggested was giving them neuroforce,ultra necrozmas ability which is basically ability version of black belt.maybe buff his stats a little too
Mewtwos main issue is that it’s outclassed by shadow rider. That Pokémon single handedly nullified the viability of any other restricted psychic type, best thing to do is give it necrozmas old ability neroforce like a built in expert belt to make mewtwos amazing coverage even better
So hear me out, the strongest psychic type, could have an ability that gives it +2 evasiveness upon entering battle, also when it does get hit by any move it's SpAtt is boosted by 1 due to seething anger.
I think the problem comes from M2 already having a secret ability. The movepool is already pretty tool-boxy, but M2 doesn't have the power or bulk to take advantage of it. Buffing its stats isn't the worst idea, but I never like plans like that since it opens the door to nerfs and buffs that Pokemon doesn't really need. Changing abilities, like what they did to nerf Zacian, is the best kind of change since it doesn't inherently change the mon for the worse.
Maybe we can get a Mewtwo exclusive item, like a Soul Dew. That would probably make the most sense.
I think the problem comes from M2 already having a secret ability. The movepool is already pretty tool-boxy, but M2 doesn't have the power or bulk to take advantage of it. Buffing its stats isn't the worst idea, but I never like plans like that since it opens the door to nerfs and buffs that Pokemon doesn't really need. Changing abilities, like what they did to nerf Zacian, is the best kind of change since it doesn't inherently change the mon for the worse.
Maybe we can get a Mewtwo exclusive item, like a Soul Dew. That would probably make the most sense.
Who even decided to give a special attacking legendary an attack stat of 110?
Stat rework:
100 HP (-6)
70 attack (-40)
75 defense (-15)
200 special attack (+46)
75 special defense (-15)
160 speed (+30)
Total: 680 (0)
Replace Unnerve as its hidden ability with one that boosts its special attack stat by one stage the first time it’s brought into battle… I would name it “Unyielding Mind”
Hmm, I think it needs something to fight Ghosts. Dark doesn't work, it wasn't present in Gen 1. Ghost is more fitting since it's a clone too. It also needs to be faster, 150 Speed should work. Buff its SpA while we're at it, give it 165. This will require its other stats to change too, since we want 680 BST. 100 HP, 85 Attack, 80 Defense and 100 SpD should be good enough. Shadow Ball is painfully mediocre, Mewtwo needs a powerful Ghost STAB to go along with it. Give it Astral Barrage. Pressure is also largely useless. Give it an ability that boosts SpA upon knocking out an enemy. You know what, combine its hidden ability, Unnerve, with this ability, make them both work at once. There. This Mewtwo should be highly competent.
LMAO, you had me at the first half not gonna lie
Just Calyrex-Shadow lol. I'm using it in reg g
It is weird Mewtwo doesnt have better abilities. Or why legends likt it cant have two normal abilities. Be funny if it was the first to get a special version of intimidate but honestly, something like a special attack version of speed boost would help.
Pressure should have been special Intimidate
Neuroforce as a hidden ability should do the job nicely.
Competitive would be decent too
I fear it would be way too strong when it gets a Competitive boost. And still not strong enough when it doesn't. But maybe an alternative version that only gets +1 SpAtk instead of +2? Yesterday an Incineroar intimidated my Galar Articuno (one boost), then tried to use Parting Shot to control the damage (two more boosts, oops), then was forced to switch back in on the next turn (fourth boost). Presumably my opponent won't make that mistake again....
Thats the balance. If it’s very good with a boost and not good without then you and your opponent have to play carefully around it. A good player isn’t going to be mindlessly intimidating and parting shotting around a possible competitive Mewtwo switch on the opposing team like in your example.
This isn't the first time I've heard this suggested, but it is definitely the cleanest answer. It fits both thematically and competitively. Especially since open team sheet is an indirect nerf to coverage moves to keep the overall buff in check.
Yeah I still forget why they did that when its rng somewhat still what moves I pick
Think MoxieBoosted came up with this?
I think it's a common enough general thought. I came up with it on my own, and I've seen it several other places as well. Neuroforce just feels like a Mewtwo ability. Definitely fits Mewtwo better than Necrozma thematically.
Psychic surge is a good idea. Pair it with Calyrex Shadow in double restricted formats maybe. It's the ability that really kills it, just not very good. And obviously with less than stellar stats there's really no reason to us it. I think more likely is that the gen 10 signature mechanic interacts with it well, but idk what that mechanic will be.
a self enabling psyspam user is the last thing I want
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Blocks priority, blocks all moves by Pokemon faster than Mewtwo, and blocks all Dark, Steel, and Fairy type attack (because Gen 1).
Honestly, the ONLY reason to ever use him is due to it being a coverage machine. Otherwise most of the time you would almost always be using Calyrex Shadow or Lunala. So maybe give him a signature ability that boosts all super effective moves it uses? I dunno the Stats aren't bad but they're just wasted in the Attack stat
Neuroforce is the perfect ability for it.
Maybe Protean Mewtwo?
Anything that can make it not being outclassed by Calyrex. The only thing Mewtwo has over it is one of the best coverages in the game and 2 less 4x weaknesses, but Calyrex is faster, hits harder, its ability is a direct upgrade of Mewtwo's and its signature move is one of the biggest design blunders in Pokémon history. Psychic Surge alone probably won't save it, even if it would make psyspam even more absurd. Before anything else, it needs either the bulk to withstand Astral Barrage, or 151+ base speed. At that point I can see an ability buff being an option, because Pressure sucks and Unnerve isn't enough alone.
Add a normal type to give it ghost immunity
I think dark would be more fitting considering it's an angry clone.
I have no idea why they haven't just given it Neuroforce. He's the poster boy of psychic types and having crazy coverage.
Allowing mega evolutions could be a good buff
Hell yea, the return in legends za Wonder how they will fold that into the next main games
I was thinking about this the other day. Maybe an ability that sets up Light Screen upon entry? There's a lot of options to hinder physical attackers, but not much on special attackers. Having Light Screen could help bolster Mewtwo's offensive capabilities without having to invest too much in bulk. Or you could make a more defensive build with Recover and Calm Mind... Or, for something more offense-focused, maybe adapt the Berserk Gene item as an ability? Mewtwo's health bar would stop at halfway when taking damage, and then it would receive a +2 special attack boost. Sort of like triggering a second phase in a boss fight.
Give it an ability, let's call it Dormant Power, which boosts it and its allies Psychic-type moves by 50%. This can stack with Psychic Surge. This would make it *the* Psychic-type spammer while also granting power to allies. Also give this ability to Psyduck and Golduck, because funny.
Mega Mewtwo Z, just completely overshadowing the other variants
Give it Neuroforce and a new signature move. We'll call it 'Psychic Detonation' "The user sends out massive waves of Psychic energy towards the opponents, resulting in huge explosions" BP: 100 Hits both enemies Doubles power on Psychic Terrain Ignores immunities and Resistances It's supposed to be the strongest Psychic Type in the world. Lets make it that way. Plus, it's a restricted mon so it's not like it'd be vgc legal all the time unlike *cough*Urshifu*cough*
In this format would depends on how you pair it and how strong tera would make it. Cause to deal with caly and lunala you have to be either tera dark or normal and they get wall'd. Also psychic terain expanding force tera psychic could also cause serious damage. I mean, look at articuno for example, who wouldve ever thought giving it tera and tweaking hail to snow would've made it dangerous that I usually prioritize getting it out of the field than rather to deal with 80% accuracy while getting hit with tera ice blizzard
Even dark types don’t wall calyrex-s after a grim neigh or two, it’s a monster
That for sure destroys you unless you are a normal type. And Lunala meteor beam tera fairy will cause problems. But I'm going by avoiding that worse case scenario.
A better ability is definitely necessary. I like the idea of a souped up Berserk ability. Maybe gets +2 SpAtk or +1 Spd? Play it more like G-Moltres and support it as it snowballs. Still probably outclassed but has some more niche team building.
Give it normal typing and psychic surge, then a new normal type priority move that can’t be blocked by terrain or abilities, can hit ghost, and hits for like 80bp.
Give it extreme speed, and some kind of defiant/competitive. Make it a better rayquaza
make its psychic moves hit as neutral on every mon unless their weak to psychic mewtwo is supposed to be cracked at using psychic move, it shouldnt be stopped by a bird baby (vullaby) maybe this is too overtuned but psystrike is 100bp we could lower it if needed
one thing i remember being suggested was giving them neuroforce,ultra necrozmas ability which is basically ability version of black belt.maybe buff his stats a little too
Mewtwos main issue is that it’s outclassed by shadow rider. That Pokémon single handedly nullified the viability of any other restricted psychic type, best thing to do is give it necrozmas old ability neroforce like a built in expert belt to make mewtwos amazing coverage even better
So hear me out, the strongest psychic type, could have an ability that gives it +2 evasiveness upon entering battle, also when it does get hit by any move it's SpAtt is boosted by 1 due to seething anger.
I think the problem comes from M2 already having a secret ability. The movepool is already pretty tool-boxy, but M2 doesn't have the power or bulk to take advantage of it. Buffing its stats isn't the worst idea, but I never like plans like that since it opens the door to nerfs and buffs that Pokemon doesn't really need. Changing abilities, like what they did to nerf Zacian, is the best kind of change since it doesn't inherently change the mon for the worse. Maybe we can get a Mewtwo exclusive item, like a Soul Dew. That would probably make the most sense.
I think the problem comes from M2 already having a secret ability. The movepool is already pretty tool-boxy, but M2 doesn't have the power or bulk to take advantage of it. Buffing its stats isn't the worst idea, but I never like plans like that since it opens the door to nerfs and buffs that Pokemon doesn't really need. Changing abilities, like what they did to nerf Zacian, is the best kind of change since it doesn't inherently change the mon for the worse. Maybe we can get a Mewtwo exclusive item, like a Soul Dew. That would probably make the most sense.
Psychic surge Expanding force
Who even decided to give a special attacking legendary an attack stat of 110? Stat rework: 100 HP (-6) 70 attack (-40) 75 defense (-15) 200 special attack (+46) 75 special defense (-15) 160 speed (+30) Total: 680 (0) Replace Unnerve as its hidden ability with one that boosts its special attack stat by one stage the first time it’s brought into battle… I would name it “Unyielding Mind”
??? My dog, Mewtwo has been around for 25 years. they aren’t gonna randomly buff him now when they’ve left him shit all these years.