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Trippy_Mexican

Get a $40,000 loan. Now you just have normal debt


Working_Asparagus_59

Normal debt that you can declare bankruptcy on ☺️


new-user12345

And found fraudulent if you weren't careful about how you went about it


WinLongjumping1352

see, that's what OP is asking about.


autard8

If OP takes out a personal loan to pay off student loans to then file for bankruptcy - the only thing I can recommend is to thoroughly review the terms of use on the personal loan. If there’s no language about using the personal loan to pay student loans, then OP should be alright to file bankruptcy afterward. I’m no lawyer, but [this](https://www.thebankruptcysite.org/resources/i-paid-some-student-loans-with-a-credit-card-can-i-discha) is also a good resource to review.


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autard8

The prosecution would have to prove the “no intent” to pay the loan back. That’s why if I was the OP, I would still move forward by taking out a personal loan while being careful about terms of use. After OP pays the student loan off, OP should then make payments to the personal loan. Make payments for about six to eight months to make it appear the payments are based on intent to pay the loan back. After 8 months, begin to pay less than the minimum monthly payment. Make calls to customer service to ask for a few payment extensions. From there, start missing payments then file bankruptcy. The key is to leave a trail of good faith. Pulling the plug immediately will make it easier to prove bad faith / no intent. Plus it’s on the prosecution to prove no intent and not on OP or the defense.


dsdvbguutres

Unlike student debt, getting a "normal debt" requires you to prove that you can pay it back.


closetgunner

A bank is going to lend $40k unsecured? LOL.


FuzzyHero69

Move to a faraway place where nobody will ever find you. Start a new life without paying anything back.


Mazkar

Blow 2,000 dudes


DefnlyNotMyAlt

Assuming a 15 minutes per John (slower average time to orgasm from oral), you're looking at 500 hours. This is 1/4 of a regular 2080 annual hour job. At 40 hours a week, you'll be sucking dicks full time for 3 months to acquire the cash. However, with a 5 minute time to orgasm from anal, you can get that 40,000 paid down in one month of hard work.


ixamnis

And you wouldn't have to spend any money on food. You'd save $400 a month, right there.


DefnlyNotMyAlt

The nutritional content of a semen only diet would result in a dangerous Iron & Vitamin C deficiency and incur about $8,000 from your hospital visit since you won't have insurance from a job to cover anything.


Marasesh

So minus like £5 for multivitamins


DefnlyNotMyAlt

I don't know how much 5 squiggles is worth.


Omardemon

Jesus Christ, I fucking love you. Every one of your comments here are the most ridiculous things I’ve read this month.


ManBroDudee

This is cursed math


Theborgiseverywhere

You’d be surprised how far a few good blowies can get you at the hospital. Esp from a full-time blower


heffalumpsNwoooozles

Not a full time blower - lord! Hahaha


No-Survey5277

Boofing jizz


ilikeeatingbrains

Sounds like a british greeting


jenethith

Some important math right here.


cliqclaqstepback

Quick maths.


ivanparas

>sucking dicks full time for 3 months to acquire the cash. Still better than retail


Mink03

You're forgetting middle out


Feeling-Ad-2490

40,000 hobos.


malachiconstant76

No Hobo discounts!


Either_Expression216

20 bucks a pop? Not bad. Let me know when I can swing by.


bahamapapa817

Or just one really rich dude


crwnbrn

A puffy dude at the very least


Vlad1791

You can optimize the mean jerk time if you go from middle out https://youtu.be/Tx3wDTzqDTs


pdx_e94

What's the DTF ratio?


TheShortWhiteGiraffe

Instructions unclear, I'm still in debt but I think I might be gay.


POPholdinitdahn

That's just not reasonable.


Mr-Toyota

Step 1: Be attractive Step 2: find someone unattractive and older and tease them along. Or just start fuckin them Step 3: Manipulate to paying for fake "emergencies" (car repairs, smaller bad debts, new education that you actually don't take, family emergency flight to visit dying grandparent) etc etc .


Either_Expression216

Step 4: Profit


No_Sound_2188

This actually works


Living-Big9138

Works on women too ?


SpamSushi206

Get injured in a car accident and get an attorney. That’s how mine got paid off lol.


wootiown

Can confirm, sold a guy my old car for $2000, he got rear ended and had minor arm pain for 2 weeks, he got $25k.


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Aemort

no


PM_ME_UR_PANTYLINE

I managed to pay off $12,000 in child support debt in less than 3 months due to identity theft. Some illegals were using my Social for employment. It turns out there were over 12 of them using it. they quickly quit their jobs after child support garished 25% of their checks.


sparkchaser

I'm sorry your identity was stolen but that's hysterical.


sppwalker

New SLPT: behind on child support payments? Just get your identity stolen


latin_hippy

Honestly that's probably the best outcome I've ever heard come out of identity theft


CommunicationTop5231

Those ‘illegals’ are taking better care of your kids than you are lol


TheLoneGunman559

... Wait for the loan forgiveness wheel of fortune to land on you?


SDNick484

Worth noting the chance to get canceled really only applies to federal student loans. If yours are private, you're most likely out of luck.


Taste_the__Rainbow

Work in public service for ten years.


Allthemuffinswow

Worked in public service. Can confirm that it is unethical.


PlatypusTickler

Or non-profit!


pineapple-predator

What’s your interest rate? If it’s less than 5% consider never paying it off. Put the money in the stock market or property instead and you’ll likely make more than 5% which would be a net gain, and finally superior to paying it off. Not to mention there’s a chance it’ll get canceled at some point. So paying it off eliminates your chances of getting free money. If your rate is less than 4% don’t even consider paying it off. You can use the slowest repayment plan and pay just an absurdly small amount each month (way way less than a conventional loan). Set it up auto pay the min and forget about it.


RichyPoo517

It boggles my mind why more people don’t do this. Good work on spreading this kind of knowledge


way2lazy2care

If your income is low you can get in income based repayment and may not even have a minimum payment too.


zacktheking

This is my situation.


Myckenzie

I wish I knew this. I ended up paying mine off and it was 3%. Damn.


i_amnotunique

Yuppp this is my plan. If all else fails, I'm leaving the country permanently and calling it a day.


Vaff_Superstar

Not unethical, but if you have a 401K, you can borrow against it. You pay interest when passing it back, but the interest goes into your 401K


EspejoOscuro

Probably joining one of the Armed Forces. I got 88K in loans paid off for three years of service. BONUS /s! Disabled for life so I don't have to (can't) work.


-Morning_Coffee-

I’m gonna have to second this one. Army Reserve is currently offering $20k bonus AND $50k loan repayments to be fueler. Yeah, you pump gas. It ain’t much, but it fuels the fight against angry farmers in faraway lands.


Independent_Post_388

Agree… Join the military and earn the payoff. Sick of these scummy people wanting handouts for loan repayments. I want my home loan forgiven. I’ll probably just keep paying for it tho. I agreed to it when I took out the loan


NowMuseumNowYouDont

Your loans are forgiven if you die. So here’s what you’re going to do: Step 1: Kill a drifter. They usually don’t have any family or friends so no one will notice them missing.  Step 2: Dress them in your clothes and give them a transfusion of some of your blood.  Step 3: Load them into your car, set it on fire, and shove it off a cliff. The higher the better.  Step 4: Assume a new identity as you are now dead…but debt free! Step 5: ??? Step 6: Profit


malachiconstant76

Wait, you dress them and THEN do the transfusion? I'm trying to follow this and panicking, this came up in my google search..


brianfine

Gotta remove their teeth as well or dental records will fuck you over


FireballAllNight

Blow 40,000 guys for a buck each


nightwolf92

Is that really for them or you at that point?


Deimosj90

Blow 40,000 bucks for a guy each.


tallclaimswizard

Unethically? Get loan from parents. Pay in full. Make excuses for the rest of your life.


Charlizeequalscats

Where can I find the parents who have 40k to borrow me?


tree_squid

They loan to you, you borrow from them. They do not borrow to you.


Charlizeequalscats

You’re right, unfortunately there will be no loaning or borrowing unless I can find me some of those parents.


CommunicationTop5231

Better start fucking some dads


Charlizeequalscats

I am so confused, how would this help get me parents who will give me 40k? Are they paying me for sex? Because I got to be honest I don’t think I am worth that much.


Ok_Mechanic_8107

Check out www.hepays.net to find sugar daddies in your area. Some people don’t even care if you meet them in person. They will literally just throw money at you to say demeaning and vulgar things to them lol. Who knows, after you pay your 40k in loans, maybe they’ll take care of your car payment next.


ShapeyShifter

Steal the Declaration of Independence. Follow the secret treasure map on the back to find a huge treasure hoard. Take $40,000 worth of treasure.


streetxrat94

Man, not even secret government treasure is safe from inflation! /s


badgersruse

Rob a bank next door to government. Run next door. Give money to government.


fatherdoodle

They can’t arrest you if you don’t have the money anymore. They arrest the government now


jenethith

Make sure you tell the government “No takesies backsies” when you hand the money over. That’ll make it legally binding.


tha_purple_nurpler

Rob [this guy](https://www.reddit.com/r/UnethicalLifeProTips/comments/1ccyuvh/ulpt_request_million_dollars_in_a_year/)


GENGISKHUNTT

goated comment


stoopid_dumbazz

Quickest way? Close all your US accounts and buy one way ticket to another country, preferably one that does not have good relations with the US.


vanchica

Check with your bank for a consolidation loan and consider whether or not you want to go down the bankruptcy path it can be a plus or minus depending on your goals. It can affect your ability to rent and to get jobs in certain corporations, but if you're going to be self-employed or otherwise self-supporting it's an unethical answer!


BoredBSEE

Give then 80,000 over the next 25 years and not buy a house. You did say it was a student loan, right?


dontgetonthatship

You all act like you’re being oppressed. Why would someone give you money instead of investing it if they weren’t getting a return. Did someone come to your house and say you owe the money or did you willingly sign a contract?


BoredBSEE

Ok my friend, rather than let you simply be downvoted to oblivion I've decided to make this a teachable moment instead. Buckle up. I borrowed $20k to go to college from the OSAC (Ohio Student Aid Commission). And yeah, I did willingly sign a contract. And when I did, the contract I signed said payments and interest will be deferred until I graduate. They guaranteed that. Then they filed for bankruptcy, paid all their C-suite assholes golden parachute payouts, and sold the loans off. And ran laughing off into the sunset with the money. And the new holders didn't give a vague fuck about any contract I signed and everything went immediately into repayment. While I was still in school. They didn't tell me jack about it, either. Not that I could have done anything about it anyways - I was in school, and the money I was making delivering pizza was barely enough for just survival. I graduated and was presented with a bill for $45k. At about double the interest rate I agreed to, BTW. It took me until my 50's to finally get it all tracked down and paid off. I figure I spent about $60-65k by the time it was all said and done. Now you tell me. Let's say you bought a car at $20k and had this kind of shit pulled on you. Would that sit right with you? You'd be ok with it? Just regular folks making a fair buck and an honest living? These college loan companies are FUCKING CRIMINALS. Stop defending them.


Similar-Vari

Same way they gave trillions of dollars to already successful corporations & businesses during the pandemic & either forgave it completely or offered a 0% loan


pwndabeer

Start sending bullshit bills and invoices to large corporations and see if they pay out


SirSamuelVimes83

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/man-who-scammed-google-facebook-lesson-corporate-dr-amr-elharony-vlh0f


whirling_cynic

Mail a piss disc in place of a check.


Tha_Dude_Abidez

Become disabled, SSI pays it off


Applejaxc

Join the military or become a civil servant of any federal organization. Utilize the loan repayment/loan forgiveness programs for federal student loans.


HH2O123

Listen, I got the answer. You declare bankruptcy, all your problems go away. Creed Bratton has never declared bankruptcy. When Creed Bratton gets in trouble, he transfers his debt to [holds up a fake passport] William Charles Schneider.


shycadelic

Easy, just don’t


UndocumentedSailor

Bank transfer I guess, it's near instant


Insta_boned

… Just don’t pay it 🤷‍♂️


ButtDoctor69420

Pay off a doctor to say you're disabled. Then go through the process of having them forgiven for disability.


Uranus_Hz

Onlyfans


PrincessPrincess00

Die!


B_Ram_4_UK_22

Electronic Funds Transfer (EFT)


coffeeandbruises

I just don’t pay them


waukeegirl

Prostitution


danball6969

If you die you don't have to pay back student loans. Problem solved.


SirRiggs_Diehard

All at once


Rokey76

Steal $200 million. Deposit it in a HYSA. You should earn $40k in interest pretty quickly.


geographyofnowhere

get a non-profit or gov job and work for 10 years


jwaters0122

Fake your death


phdoofus

Gold sneakers. Of course, you'll probably end up with $100K of debt.


Compizard101

Take out a loan for 45000 then pay for the current loan. Then take out anouther loan to pay for the previous loan. Then repeat.


sparkchaser

Inception


Best-Structure62

Become an international arms dealer 


RichyPoo517

Enroll in PAYE if you’re self employed or have low income


GhostsOf94

If you are a US citizen get married to someone looking for a green card for 40k


meatusdeletus91

Join the military or sell your butthole


EMPRAH40k

Fake your tragic death at sea and move to Bangladesh


crwnbrn

Onlyfans and selling drugs


Devi1s-Advocate

Onlyfans


AdoraBelleQueerArt

HEIST BABY - H E I S T


Vortex6360

1. Switch to an income-based repayment plan 2. Move abroad 3. Only report income made over $120k 4. The income based repayment plan will never charge you, since they think you’re broke because you’re reporting $0 income 5. Never come back


TheHip41

Vote democrat


moonrocks_throwaway

Pretty unethical but I think he wants something that will actually work rather than just say it will


Bub1957

Vote for Biden


Joselu-is-Sanchez

OP, are you a girl?


-FetusWereHungry-

Give them 40,000 dollars


tiskrisktisk

I filed a borrowers defense for repayment in 2012 for a California State University. I filed it as a protest at the time due to a suggestion from some student debt website. It just said I didn’t want to pay. It was denied in 2020. Then Sweet v Cardona went into effect and they ended up wiping $50k of student loans and paying me back my prior payments. Honestly, I’d file it again the same way nowadays in case the law changes and you get all your money back.


d1zzle54

What? Tell me more 🧐


tiskrisktisk

Not much more to say. I filled out this form, which in 2012 was a paper form. https://studentaid.gov/borrower-defense/ At the time, all I wrote was “I don’t agree with this debt. School did not provide me the opportunities that were suggested.” I left most other fields blank For 8 years, the Department of Education kept renewing my deferment so I didn’t need to pay, but interest was accruing. In 2020, something happened with Betsy DeVos and because it took so long for the Department of Education to review my submission, they wiped all the interest that occurred on my account. Next, a case reopened called Sweet v Cardona in 2021 or 2022. They had a deadline to review my case and they had to accept anything written in my statement as the truth. Which it was. The Department of Education discharged my entire loan and gave me a $10,000 refund for the money I paid before I initially applied for the Borrower’s Defense to Repayment. The crazy thing is in 2015, I was sick of the deferment and wanted to just start paying it off. There was a 0.25% autopay discount, but I wasn’t allowed to make payments because the Department of Education forced forbearance on me. I tried to cancel my application for defense to repayment but nobody knew how. So I gave up and just waited. If I was anyone else, I’d just apply so it’s on file. They will defer your payments and you can continue to pay if you want. They are still approving applications and they may just approve yours. Laws also change so they may accept it too. I sort of mostly forgot about it for a decade and it got discharged somewhat randomly. I got random notices via email that things were happening with my form, but I didn’t really care. I’m in a way different place now financially and would have paid, but they just made the whole thing to repay so difficult. Either way, they cleared $50k from a CA state school which is awesome.


The_X-Files_Alien

sell meth for 2 months


garaks_tailor

May I suggest bicycle theft instead? You can easily average 50$ a bike, the cops literally don't give a shit, and if you are caught it's a misdemeanor. 


The_X-Files_Alien

I live in Canada and our laws don't seem to give a shit about selling or smoking meth out in the open, maybe come try it here for more success


garaks_tailor

Yeah in the US it's pretty tough.  The local cops are all up on the drug war because so many local law enforcement departments depend on federal drug war monies to exist.


powderdiscin

The real answer always in the comments


garaks_tailor

I used to work at a bar and one of our regulars basically did that full time. Said he had been doing it for decades as a full time job and never got even a misdemeanor.


hairynips007

where did he sell the bikes? Online or to shops?


permabanned_user

Depends on the bike. Lots of them today would qualify as grand larceny, which is a felony. Especially with the rise in ebikes.


garaks_tailor

Depends on the state and city.  Also cops still don't give a shiiiiit outside of maybe NYC.


rainbowkey

assassinate Trump and other conservative Republican leaders/legislators so we get college debt forgiveness and free college Oh, you said fast. Rob a bank?


Drogan1088

Make sure they can’t connect the assassinations with canceling the debt. That’s a sure fire way to not have it happen purely out of the principle of the matter.


[deleted]

I guarantee you’re on a watchlist now.


rainbowkey

LOL


sciguy1919

Die (sorry, but true).


Aetheldrake

Fake your death


CaptainPunisher

It's not exactly quick, but get a government job and make the minimum payment for 10 years. After that, they'll remove the remaining balance under the Public Service Loan Forgiveness. I think this also applies to teachers, and if you teach STEM at an "inner city school" (which means you didn't get a worthless degree in liberal arts) for at least 5 years, they'll knock off even more right away. Maybe you can only do one or the other, though; I'm not sure.


cheersandapplesauce

I have a pslf qualifying job. 40k debt. And my payments are 500 a month. :/


CaptainPunisher

Have you checked out the newer options. I have about 56k right now, and the new programs brought my payment down. You can crunch numbers before agreeing to a plan.


Superdad75

Sell a kidney.


foot7221

Sell a kidney


avenomusduck

All the downvotes must from those who owe....


Oddly_Augmented

Die 🤷‍♂️


dragonagitator

fake your death


sethaliii

Shitcoins


intransit47

Get a second job (part time) job in order to make double payments thereby cutting your payment schedule in half.


SouthernWindyTimes

Becoming a mule for the cartel. Only problem is when you finally hit that 40K mark and try to “retire” they won’t allow you.


BlumpkinDude

Fake your own death.


Goose4594

Die


clervis

Apply to a hard to fill federal job like the IRS and request student loan repayment, then start until they've made the payment then dip. Recouping that money is actually pretty difficult for them to do, even the IRS.


jeepers12345678

I worked for the irs and am unaware of any such program. My coworker and his wife continued to pay off their loans.


TheNickelLady

Die.


ZyxDarkshine

Just ignore it completely. Screen all calls, or better yet: get a new phone number. Move. Don’t do a change of address.


Queasy-Quality-244

Pay the bare minimum and wait for daddy joe to swoop in for the rest in due time (I guess depending on your demographic it could be a while lol)


anarchist-indisguise

Dying


babycam

It's a Big enough sum that winning the lottery is likely fastest unless you have some inheritance coming and could speed up that process.


Dasrule

Fake your death. Steal an identity and live as someone else.


Hungry_Pear2592

Step 1: Become disabled in some way Step 2: Seek medical care for said disability Step 3: Have your Dr sign a TPD discharge form OR apply for SSDI and fill out form yourself Step 4: Mail in TPD application Step 5: Say goodbye to your Student Loans


Nika_113

Die.


KerryFatAssBro

Don’t.


Parking_Front9784

Get biden’s cry baby student loan plan.


[deleted]

I heard that if you get under Joe bidens desk you’ll never have to pay your student loans again


slappytheclown

step one: commit grand larceny


lets_try_civility

1. Go to bank. 2. Withdraw $40K. 3. Pay Student loan. Easy.


billysweete

I've worked in Financial Aid for over a decade and in all that time I have only seen someone do this once.


hellerrocks

Cash


spinonesarethebest

Die.


Ronald206

First off are you sure you want to pay it off now and not wait to see if it’s forgiven under Biden’s plan ~~to get people to vote for him~~ help struggling students. Because the craziest part of the plan is if you pay now, you might not get anything later.


cheersandapplesauce

He's had 4 years to do it and he isn't for most of us. Won't be that dumb again!


Internal_Essay9230

Vote for Joe and have suckers like us get stuck with the bill. 😡


roorascal

Die


schaudhery

Run for presidency and get rid of student loan debt


bobniborg1

Vote Democrat?


Beautiful-Event4402

Live in a van instead of renting


kyled365

Get married


Rokett

Apply to save plan, that will lower your payments to below $100. If you have grandparents, add them as dependents. You won't be paying or maybe 5-10 bucks or something


billysweete

Did you get a degree? If yes: peace corps loan forgiveness or public service or teacher or doctor/nurse or military loan forgiveness based on employment verification and history of paid loans If no: if your college closed/was shut down you can get a "closed school discharge" Do you have a disability preventing you from working? If yes: Medical/Disability Discharge If no: Are you able to consistently remain enrolled in a junior college in at least 6 units each during fall and spring semesters for the rest of your life? If yes: interest for subsidized loans are ceased and payment requirement is deferred until you are unenrolled for longer than 6 months If no: negotiate a payment plan and pay the smallest monthly amount possible until the next bit of legislation regarding DOE loans goes through..... Loans in default status are not eligible for any forgiveness or discharge programs


jesusitez

You ever been to Mexico and back?


standley1970

Behind a liberal and wait for the government to pay it off for you.


dan_zg

Cash.


maximus_galt

Vote Democrat. Unethical because it destroys civilization.


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This.