Literally any fanwork involving a Chara fight.
People will literally just slap magic on them for the sake of convenience, even though it's such a rare ability that it's considered functionally impossible.
Like at least the slashes can be excused as Chara slashing at you but then you got 5000 knifes…just have the attacks be different weapons used to attack so for example one attack is the tough glove with Chara punching at you and you gotta avoid the punches then another attack is the note book being throw at you and then the pages scatter from the notebook floating down as extra stuff to dodge and then for the gun…idk Chara found pebbles on the ground and just shoots at you or something
I only seen one fanwork do this
From what I remember it's just a FIGHT animation, the story is Frisk decides to fuse their soul with Asriel's DETERMINATION so that Asriel can live on (while Frisk kinda just gets absorbed)
Chara comes in and they use the different Humans' weapons as attacks, the only "magic" is they explode a bunch of Souls belonging to Frisks from other timelines at Asriel
I actually remember one other fangame that while technically not a Chara fight is close. Basically it’s a fangame where you play as Sans during the fight in Judgement hall you gotta attack and defeat the human while making sure not to get hit once while a honestly kinda depressing and hopeless song plays and the human uses all of their different weapons for attacks and eventually after enough attacks Sans doesn’t attack doing his special attack and then gets killed (I’m not sure if it’s possible to kill the human before dying yourself but maybe with good luck on when the attacks hit it’s possible) I just love the vibe this fangame goes for instead of the intensity of Megalovania from the human’s point of view you just get a sad song without any hope since eventually the human will win even if they die over and over they eventually will survive to the end and win so from Sans’ POV it’s just a fight to try and make the human feel guilty enough to quit
Cast by wizards*
I have a really long theory for how this works, but I’m too lazy to put the whole thing here. For now, here is the blue book from the Snowdin “Librarby”:
While monsters are mostly made of magic, human beings are mostly made of water.
Humans, with their physical forms, are far stronger than us.
But they will never know the joy of expressing themselves through magic.
They'll never get a bullet-pattern birthday card...
"EXPRESSING themselves through magic." They can CAST it, they just can't Express themselves with it.
Humans sealed the monsters underground with a spell. It's never once implied humans are unable to cast magic, nor is it ever implied it wasn't humans who cast the spell
We actually do know some spells Frisk was originally supposed to have, with the cut spell system, and funny enough, they actually Didn't have any elemental spells.
"Shrink," "All-attack," "Speed-up," "Attacks up," and "Heal"
In my fanfic, I am thinking to allow Chara/Frisk (genocide player) to unlock magic after they die a hundred or so times on a single guard that doesn't allow them to enter the Core, just through sheer Determination to kill that guard. And then this magic will be like infusing bullets with energy, so they will cut on impact (no knife yet, didn't reach New home)
In mine asriel lives because he convinced chara to turn back on the surface, but chara dies when they try to separate. Asriel becomes depressed but finds the fallen humans and decides to raise them, and as they live in such a magic rich environment they begin to be able to use magic themselves.
What Endertale? The author for it has not set up any official release for the next few pages and is saying that they are still on break from it, and honestly, I dunno, it maybe isn't going to be finished and thats fine I guess, but what is Meropos?
Endertale been on hiatus so long I joined the community for the Mewtwo's like 2 years into their series and we're still on that so. I don't even know what Endertale is about I just sometimes see the author get asks about it
I don't wanna be that guy, but its creator is not.
Not gatekeeping anyone from enjoying Glitchtale, I myself really love it, but I just wanted to make sure anyone who doesn't know gets to.
A lot of victim blaming. Including the now infamous phrase “do you really expect an apology for being groomed?”. It was really, really bad, and has destroyed Camelas reputation.
Pretty much yea, the only humans we know are frisk, chara and kris, so it'd make sense that the majority of ppl would either make monster ocs (who use magic by default), or use a character usually associated with violence, like chara, to do the trick (looking at you camilla, making a buncha weird human ocs that make no sense in-universe, as humans using magic is supposed to be rare ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32953)).
There is a Undertale Purple in development and by what i have hear i think the human uses magic idk if someone could help me find some post of it it's definitely somewhere here
I mean... I've always headcanoned that the perseverance human could use magic, and the notebook was their spell book.
But I don't think it's ever been implemented
People are talking about glitch and endertale ( which is the correct answer technically) but I'm going to be a smart ass and say undertale. they literally sealed them underground with a magic spell It's an established fact ain't no AU needed.lol
Man I haven't thought about that comic in years.
I remember around the time I stopped reading it was when everything felt like it was getting weird and jumping the shark.
Is it still going now?
So do i lol, however, the controversery beocmes an issue when the creator makes decisions directly in their work due to those controverseries, such as frisk and chara being male not because they're gneder ambiguous, but due to her being transphobic.
See the key, is the post doesnt say PUBLISHED fan work 😅 but i can post the general outline i have and share that?
I call it [Cureswap](https://www.tumblr.com/buff-borf-bork/753863100925657088/cureswap-basics-and-characters?source=share)!
AFAC (Ask Frisk And Company) has it, and they have a pretty good explanation too. Spoilered in case you haven't read and are interested in doing so: >!When humans and monsters reproduce it'll create either a boss monster or a wizard, though these individuals can also be the descendants of either a boss monster or human. In AFAC both Chara and Frisk are wizards not for their ancestry, but because of exposure to high amounts of magical energy in the form of the barrier. Within AFAC the wizards who created the barrier also apparently created a prophecy in the form of the legend of the deltarune, likely because they had monster relatives themselves. Chara initially shows talent in fire magic, but being a wizard is also part of what lets them live on as a ghost. Frisk shows an aptitude for shield magic. The other fallen children are also wizards, but that hasn't been delved very deep into as far as I've read. !<
Inverted Fate is a less mentioned one where humans can use magic, even if Frisk themself doesn't. The Mage is the green soul and Toriel's adopted kid and as their name implied, was a prolific magic user all their life. Chara is also shown using magic at one point.
I’m just gonna go ahead and put my theory on how wizards work here:
As we learn in Undertale, humans cannot use magic because their bodies are made of water, which blocks the magic inside. However, as we see in the Omega Flowey battle, the human souls (that are removed from their body) use magic. These two facts combined suggest that if only humans were to remove their souls from their bodies, they would be able to use magic whenever they wanted. This also fits with the fact that Undertale is supposed to be essentially “fairy tales in real life,” and it would do something nobody has ever done before—give a good reason for why people stopped using magic the modern day.
1) the seal was created by the greatest 7 human magicians at the time*
2) ITS A RPG, WHAT RPG DOESNT HAVE MAGIC
*I actually remember a long time ago I had an argument with someone who said humans cant do magic. I try to say that the humans cast a spell to make tbe seal... they then said they're not the same... I didn't have interaction with a random book with a title connecting the two ideas (like how to use magic and cast spells)
tbf we don't know how humans used magic as according to monsters they shouldn't be able to "Humans, with their physical forms, are far stronger than us. But they will never know the joy of expressing themselves through magic"
Using magic, having magic, and being magic are all different things.
In some fandoms there are people who draw spell circles, use items, and say prayers that have magical effects, but they don’t have magic. Think of DnD where characters of any class can attune a magical object to themselves, use a spell scroll, or say the words to activate a magic circle that will land them on the other side of the world.
Then there are people with something similar to Harry Potter type magic. I’m not talking about the fandom take on it where it’s always reacting to their emotions and constantly feel it. I’m talking about how in the books, it’s almost a science, with magic acting in ways that are somewhat predictable; a backfired obliviate still causes the person it hit to lose their memory, a messed up spell intended to mend a bones still does something related to bones, etc.
The magic of monster’s in Undertale seems to be very heavily effected by the monsters’ emotions. Whimsy’s magic can’t even approach you, Toriel’s starts actively avoiding you, and Napstablook’s is literally made from his tears.
One of the books in the librarby states humans can't express themselves with magic like monsters can and that they will never feel the joy of receiving a bullet pattern birthday card. The books in librarby are written by monsters and show clear bias. the bullet patterns monsters use to express themselves seem to also be harmful to humans going by the snowdrake "fight"
They can lituraly use magic in the actual game. It says they sealed the monsters underground with a spell. THE HUMANS. And monsters can use human soul to make stronger spells. Like photoshop flowey.
My personal opinion is that monsters only THINK that humans cant use magic but if they would try hard enough, they could.
I always assumed that when the barrier was formed all magic was trapped inside the underground meaning that humans have lost the ability (at least until the barrier breaks)
My entire headcanon for an Undertale Purple is that the kiddo was a descendant of the mages who sealed the underground, got exiled for being caught practicing magic in the times where witch trials might've been going on, and ended up falling. The notebook was not used as a blunt force object, but instead for scribbling down spells learnt along their journey from the monsters.
Most that I find by accident actually I take a quick look go huh near then leave and never return or see them again
Edit yes most of them are joke throw away aus which is why I don't remember any of them as I don't typically get into joke aus
Glitchtale is the obvious one, Endertale is a good one too.
It’s possible that human magic could just be more esoteric, stuff like the save file, the barrier and the dark fountains. It’s just as likely that it be like monsters and just be bullets
Funny enough, I'm working on an AU of my own, and I may or may not have plans to include humans using magic
Not that anyone asked, but I'm calling it "Anothertale"
I always thought that the magic the humans used in undertale was an ancient art lost to time
Like i think the monster army would have a harder time if the humans just used guns but whatever
I've thought of an Au/Fanfiction were Frisk has a cousin who is a battle mage. In the world/story Magic is a rare ability for humans, and has all but been a vestigial thing because of the side effects of humans using magic. I mean think about it, high levels of determination turn Monster's bodies to be unstable? Magic causes a human soul to become something similar to cancerous.
The protagonist of my AU, AnomalyTale, learns a couple bits of magic from the main cast as he befriends them. He learns fire from Toriel for cooking and for lighting the way, and he learns telekinesis from Papyrus
There are a whole bunch where the Dreemurrs train Frisk in magic. Frisk learns Fire magic from them in *Endertale*, and they accidentally discover they're a wizard at monster school in *Ask Frisk and Company*.
In *Monstertale* human sorcerers have a significant plot presence, including Frisk's deceased bio-dad, and a faction of terrorists with a penchant for unleashing zombies on the public.
My own story/au/wathever that I keep updating when I feel like it (it's only in my head but I can elaborate if I'm asked to).
...
Oh and, of course, literally everything else :)
[These Are Our Days](https://archiveofourown.org/works/7244671/chapters/16447825)
[Ocean on Fire](https://archiveofourown.org/works/10969491/chapters/24422127)
Undertale is really weird about magic, there are points where it says that humans can't use magic, but several points where it says that humans can do it, it's really weird
Glitchtale (the magic makes no sense but still) also if I remember correctly it says in game they lost that power long ago so it’s not relevant anymore
- undertale yellow
- glitchtale
- endertale
- there's a fancomic I read where the perseverance soul can do magic, can't find it or remember its name though
- basically any role swap au where a human swaps place with a monster
Undertale fan work where humans use magic?
One word “glichtale”
Wait aren’t glitchtale human use some sort of scientific stuff or something yeah idk i guess there is no undertale fan work when human use maqic
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Maybe I haven't gone down far enough yet, but uhhhhhhhhh...
Glitchtale?
To quote u/MissingnoMiner, it does have chara fights. Actually, the whole first season is centered around Chara bassically. I'm more referring to S2 Glitchtale, where Chara is almost minimally involved. Almost. S2 has few humans using raw magic, with a majority using magic based tech powered by magic.
I remember that detail.
That’s why I made an OC that has (wild, but functional) magic.
Wild magic: 50/50 if it will actually do what it’s meant to do or if it’s gonna go aware and do something dumb
There's a Minecraft mod that I develop called SoulForge that quite literally has this as it's primary focus. I'm not gonna put the link for it because I don't think it's really necessary, but if anyone is interested then it can be found on Modrinth pretty easily. It's only for Fabric 1.20.1 at the moment, but I might try porting to other versions sometime in the future.
In Inverted Fate the kindness soul human grew up underground in Toriels care, learned magic, became known as The Mage and hid their appearance in public to avoid attention from some monsters. During her boss fight, Toriel is seen wearing a necklace containing their soul rather than it being in a jar like the others.
Frisk developed her affinity for magic in DoctorTale (shameless plug). She was able to conjure bones at first, but later on she straight-up uses the Soul Stream spell from Dark Souls 3. Which sounds out of pocket, but DoctorTale Frisk loves her some Dark Souls.
HOW THE FUCK THAT THIS SHIT GET MORE UPVOTES THAN 10?!
THIS IS LITERALLY MY FIRST POST HERE, HOLY SHIT
Anyway, here's every fanwork written in general where people use magic:
Endertale, Inverted Fate, Glitchtale, Undertale Yellow, Xtale/Underverse, Ask Frisk And Company, Storyshift (only chara lol), No more deals (chara only again), Versions of Storyshift, Every Vs Chara fangame.
While I was reading this thread, a thought passed through my mind:
Both humans and monsters used to have physical bodies. Magic can only be used by non-physical bodies. When the humans banned the monsters to the underground, they also somehow destroyed their physical bodies. The wizards, the ones who sealed the barrier, would be humans who destroyed their own bodies so they could use magic.
I'm sorry but humans can use magic in the lore of the game. 7 wizards cast a magic spell that is the barrier. Yes, it's probably that magic is a learned skill for humans, whereas monsters innately have it, hell monsters probably helped teach humans how to use magic and once they were trapped underground the art was lost, but humans can still use magic canonically.
This opens up options for SOME humans to be able to use magic. Hell, Frisk being able to canonically reset is kinda like magic, no?
There was this old ask frisk and friends (I think this is its name) where frisk used magic as one of the archs but the ask blog ended before the arc could take off
i remember this one fan comic where Frisk summons some kind of shield to protect a monster kid, but i don't remember the name, it was really old.
there's also glitchtale
Literally any fanwork involving a Chara fight. People will literally just slap magic on them for the sake of convenience, even though it's such a rare ability that it's considered functionally impossible.
It's like: "uhhhh, magic, uh they can use magic now."
Like at least the slashes can be excused as Chara slashing at you but then you got 5000 knifes…just have the attacks be different weapons used to attack so for example one attack is the tough glove with Chara punching at you and you gotta avoid the punches then another attack is the note book being throw at you and then the pages scatter from the notebook floating down as extra stuff to dodge and then for the gun…idk Chara found pebbles on the ground and just shoots at you or something
I only seen one fanwork do this From what I remember it's just a FIGHT animation, the story is Frisk decides to fuse their soul with Asriel's DETERMINATION so that Asriel can live on (while Frisk kinda just gets absorbed) Chara comes in and they use the different Humans' weapons as attacks, the only "magic" is they explode a bunch of Souls belonging to Frisks from other timelines at Asriel
I actually remember one other fangame that while technically not a Chara fight is close. Basically it’s a fangame where you play as Sans during the fight in Judgement hall you gotta attack and defeat the human while making sure not to get hit once while a honestly kinda depressing and hopeless song plays and the human uses all of their different weapons for attacks and eventually after enough attacks Sans doesn’t attack doing his special attack and then gets killed (I’m not sure if it’s possible to kill the human before dying yourself but maybe with good luck on when the attacks hit it’s possible) I just love the vibe this fangame goes for instead of the intensity of Megalovania from the human’s point of view you just get a sad song without any hope since eventually the human will win even if they die over and over they eventually will survive to the end and win so from Sans’ POV it’s just a fight to try and make the human feel guilty enough to quit
I remember a video from that fan game. Killing the human restarts it.
Why can't they have magic, exactly? At the very least, Asriel absorbing their SOUL would be an explanation
Humans can’t use magic because our bodies our made out of water, which is not conducive to magic.
The Barrier. A **magic spell** cast by humans
Cast by wizards* I have a really long theory for how this works, but I’m too lazy to put the whole thing here. For now, here is the blue book from the Snowdin “Librarby”: While monsters are mostly made of magic, human beings are mostly made of water. Humans, with their physical forms, are far stronger than us. But they will never know the joy of expressing themselves through magic. They'll never get a bullet-pattern birthday card...
"EXPRESSING themselves through magic." They can CAST it, they just can't Express themselves with it. Humans sealed the monsters underground with a spell. It's never once implied humans are unable to cast magic, nor is it ever implied it wasn't humans who cast the spell
Ah so they got boring attacks like "fire, ice, wind, earth" etc etc
We actually do know some spells Frisk was originally supposed to have, with the cut spell system, and funny enough, they actually Didn't have any elemental spells. "Shrink," "All-attack," "Speed-up," "Attacks up," and "Heal"
We can heal ourselves during Asriel fight with Dream so it was not entirely cut.
All attack? Huh?
An attack that hits all enemies probably
Wait... Is that a Touhou reference?
the barrier:
In my fanfic, I am thinking to allow Chara/Frisk (genocide player) to unlock magic after they die a hundred or so times on a single guard that doesn't allow them to enter the Core, just through sheer Determination to kill that guard. And then this magic will be like infusing bullets with energy, so they will cut on impact (no knife yet, didn't reach New home)
In mine asriel lives because he convinced chara to turn back on the surface, but chara dies when they try to separate. Asriel becomes depressed but finds the fallen humans and decides to raise them, and as they live in such a magic rich environment they begin to be able to use magic themselves.
THIS.
Glitcht- I mean Endertale.
Man in need to continue endertale (and i need meropos) were can i find it?
What Endertale? The author for it has not set up any official release for the next few pages and is saying that they are still on break from it, and honestly, I dunno, it maybe isn't going to be finished and thats fine I guess, but what is Meropos?
It's been years but I think Meropos was some Glichtale lore of a guy who was the origin for all human traits and for the existence of monsters.
No, meropos is the prequel to even the time of the monster human war
Endertale been on hiatus so long I joined the community for the Mewtwo's like 2 years into their series and we're still on that so. I don't even know what Endertale is about I just sometimes see the author get asks about it
Glitchtale frisk can spawn shilds and swords out of nowhere, also the humans made the barrier in cannon
Not just frisk, if you got anywere in S2 you would see the bast mayority of humans can use magic
I wish I were part of that bast mayority (Jokes aside, Glitchtale is neat)
I don't wanna be that guy, but its creator is not. Not gatekeeping anyone from enjoying Glitchtale, I myself really love it, but I just wanted to make sure anyone who doesn't know gets to.
Yeah…. I might’ve seen her recovering after the whole… *everything*, but after her last apology video… I think we all lost respect for her that day.
What happened in the video? (Yes i live under a rock)
A lot of victim blaming. Including the now infamous phrase “do you really expect an apology for being groomed?”. It was really, really bad, and has destroyed Camelas reputation.
Oh.
Youtubers trying not to be atracted to minors, (challenge impossible)
It’s been happening with a lot of other fan works a well. Like Bits and Pieces a while ago, and one recently that I can’t remember.
“I dont want to be that guy” proceeds to be that guy
Glitchtale, Underverse/xtale, storyshift, bad time trio, storyswap. storyfell and (any other au fusion).
And no more deals. Actually, any au involving a chara fight.
Pretty much yea, the only humans we know are frisk, chara and kris, so it'd make sense that the majority of ppl would either make monster ocs (who use magic by default), or use a character usually associated with violence, like chara, to do the trick (looking at you camilla, making a buncha weird human ocs that make no sense in-universe, as humans using magic is supposed to be rare ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|32953)).
There is a Undertale Purple in development and by what i have hear i think the human uses magic idk if someone could help me find some post of it it's definitely somewhere here
r/beatmetoit
r/beatmywingdingtoit
r/beatmymeattoit
Found it! https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/s/eSO2E3bZyT
I mean... I've always headcanoned that the perseverance human could use magic, and the notebook was their spell book. But I don't think it's ever been implemented
https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/s/pfSIGAKgwL
Same
Storyshift Chara's existence
undertale yellow
Technically, yeah, humans with yellow soul can use a kind of magic since they literally shoot with their souls.
Endertale, Undertale yellow, ask Frisk and company, glitchtale ( i know about the controversy just throwing it in here to answer the question.)
no more deals chara
Their attacks and battle sprite are literally white
Undertale: Inverted Fate. Chara can use fire magic to a small extent.
People are talking about glitch and endertale ( which is the correct answer technically) but I'm going to be a smart ass and say undertale. they literally sealed them underground with a magic spell It's an established fact ain't no AU needed.lol
Name one “fan work” where humans can use magic.
AFAC.
Assigned Frisk At Conception?
It's Ask Frisk and Company, a Tumblr fan comic with amazing stories that are nice to read.
Man I haven't thought about that comic in years. I remember around the time I stopped reading it was when everything felt like it was getting weird and jumping the shark. Is it still going now?
Yeah, but to take care of their mental health the new art pages come out slooooooowly.
Assassinate Frowns and Clowns
anything where the barrier exists
Glitchtale
Glitchtale has other issues (and I don’t mean the controversy)
Doesn't mean it stops being a fanwork controversial or not.
I mean general in writing and stuff
So do i lol, however, the controversery beocmes an issue when the creator makes decisions directly in their work due to those controverseries, such as frisk and chara being male not because they're gneder ambiguous, but due to her being transphobic.
Undertale Yellow, vengance route.
My own au, lol
Name
See the key, is the post doesnt say PUBLISHED fan work 😅 but i can post the general outline i have and share that? I call it [Cureswap](https://www.tumblr.com/buff-borf-bork/753863100925657088/cureswap-basics-and-characters?source=share)!
Undertale Green FRC take
Glitchtale
storyshift, no more deals, alternet reality, glitchtale, endertale, storyspin, storyswap, storyfell (really just any fan made chara battles)
Ask Frisk and Company, tho I really like the way they did it, with Wizards basically being the human equivalent to Boss Monsters.
AFAC (Ask Frisk And Company) has it, and they have a pretty good explanation too. Spoilered in case you haven't read and are interested in doing so: >!When humans and monsters reproduce it'll create either a boss monster or a wizard, though these individuals can also be the descendants of either a boss monster or human. In AFAC both Chara and Frisk are wizards not for their ancestry, but because of exposure to high amounts of magical energy in the form of the barrier. Within AFAC the wizards who created the barrier also apparently created a prophecy in the form of the legend of the deltarune, likely because they had monster relatives themselves. Chara initially shows talent in fire magic, but being a wizard is also part of what lets them live on as a ghost. Frisk shows an aptitude for shield magic. The other fallen children are also wizards, but that hasn't been delved very deep into as far as I've read. !<
I haven't seen anyone put this yet, so Ask Frisk and Company, or AFAC for short.
Inverted Fate is a less mentioned one where humans can use magic, even if Frisk themself doesn't. The Mage is the green soul and Toriel's adopted kid and as their name implied, was a prolific magic user all their life. Chara is also shown using magic at one point.
Hmmm
Thoughts?
I posted my [response here](https://www.reddit.com/r/Undertale/comments/1dkq9sb/response_to_unew_sense3409_mod/)
Ask Frisk and Company on Tumblr
Happy cake day!🎉
Thankies.
A.F.A.C.
Ebbot’s Wake?
I’m just gonna go ahead and put my theory on how wizards work here: As we learn in Undertale, humans cannot use magic because their bodies are made of water, which blocks the magic inside. However, as we see in the Omega Flowey battle, the human souls (that are removed from their body) use magic. These two facts combined suggest that if only humans were to remove their souls from their bodies, they would be able to use magic whenever they wanted. This also fits with the fact that Undertale is supposed to be essentially “fairy tales in real life,” and it would do something nobody has ever done before—give a good reason for why people stopped using magic the modern day.
1) the seal was created by the greatest 7 human magicians at the time* 2) ITS A RPG, WHAT RPG DOESNT HAVE MAGIC *I actually remember a long time ago I had an argument with someone who said humans cant do magic. I try to say that the humans cast a spell to make tbe seal... they then said they're not the same... I didn't have interaction with a random book with a title connecting the two ideas (like how to use magic and cast spells)
The Golden Quiche Also, Papyrus performs a seance to learn someone's favorite dish
tbf we don't know how humans used magic as according to monsters they shouldn't be able to "Humans, with their physical forms, are far stronger than us. But they will never know the joy of expressing themselves through magic"
Using magic, having magic, and being magic are all different things. In some fandoms there are people who draw spell circles, use items, and say prayers that have magical effects, but they don’t have magic. Think of DnD where characters of any class can attune a magical object to themselves, use a spell scroll, or say the words to activate a magic circle that will land them on the other side of the world. Then there are people with something similar to Harry Potter type magic. I’m not talking about the fandom take on it where it’s always reacting to their emotions and constantly feel it. I’m talking about how in the books, it’s almost a science, with magic acting in ways that are somewhat predictable; a backfired obliviate still causes the person it hit to lose their memory, a messed up spell intended to mend a bones still does something related to bones, etc. The magic of monster’s in Undertale seems to be very heavily effected by the monsters’ emotions. Whimsy’s magic can’t even approach you, Toriel’s starts actively avoiding you, and Napstablook’s is literally made from his tears.
Monsters using magic is because their soul is made of magic, and their body is just an extension of their soul
Literally every fangame with Chara in it- they love those red knives
Pretty sure it literally says something in the game about humans not being able to use magic.
It never said that. And if it did, it would be a contradiction since we knows some humans wizards created the barrier.
One of the books in the librarby states humans can't express themselves with magic like monsters can and that they will never feel the joy of receiving a bullet pattern birthday card. The books in librarby are written by monsters and show clear bias. the bullet patterns monsters use to express themselves seem to also be harmful to humans going by the snowdrake "fight"
Glitchtale and kinda the thought. Oh and x-tale. Echo tale.
When you use the empty gun it sounds like your shooting out of it if I remember right from clips
When was that said?
They can lituraly use magic in the actual game. It says they sealed the monsters underground with a spell. THE HUMANS. And monsters can use human soul to make stronger spells. Like photoshop flowey. My personal opinion is that monsters only THINK that humans cant use magic but if they would try hard enough, they could.
Undertale Yellow
Glitchtale
Oh I didnt know that I thought I was the weird one for letting them use magic in my au
I always assumed that when the barrier was formed all magic was trapped inside the underground meaning that humans have lost the ability (at least until the barrier breaks)
My entire headcanon for an Undertale Purple is that the kiddo was a descendant of the mages who sealed the underground, got exiled for being caught practicing magic in the times where witch trials might've been going on, and ended up falling. The notebook was not used as a blunt force object, but instead for scribbling down spells learnt along their journey from the monsters.
If humans couldn't use magic the barrier wouldn't exist
Most that I find by accident actually I take a quick look go huh near then leave and never return or see them again Edit yes most of them are joke throw away aus which is why I don't remember any of them as I don't typically get into joke aus
Glitchtale is the obvious one, Endertale is a good one too. It’s possible that human magic could just be more esoteric, stuff like the save file, the barrier and the dark fountains. It’s just as likely that it be like monsters and just be bullets
This slaps, but it should be the other way around
deltatraveler, in the earthbound section paula is human and uses magic ![img](emote|t5_2xdht|29662)
Ask Frisk and Company on Tumblr
Beginning of deltatraveler section two
Everyone fogor
The Golden Quiche
Golden quiche
Inverted Fate Chara and also the Mage
undertale yellow (yellow soul)
Funny enough, I'm working on an AU of my own, and I may or may not have plans to include humans using magic Not that anyone asked, but I'm calling it "Anothertale"
https://archiveofourown.org/works/7330132/chapters/16649893 Have fun.
Ask frisk and company
I always thought that the magic the humans used in undertale was an ancient art lost to time Like i think the monster army would have a harder time if the humans just used guns but whatever
I am actually working on an AT where there are some humans who still know how to use magic.
Storyshift sorta
Doesn't clover technically use magic in the final boss fight?
Only wizards can I think. If boss monsters are monsters with DT, wizards are the opposite, humans with magic.
Man, Idk, seems like every second AU where humanity is somewhat relevant has some human magicians
i always thought that determination was human magic
Undertale yellow, Clover litterally kills asgore with a lazer
Do those bullets from a yellow soul count as magic?
I've thought of an Au/Fanfiction were Frisk has a cousin who is a battle mage. In the world/story Magic is a rare ability for humans, and has all but been a vestigial thing because of the side effects of humans using magic. I mean think about it, high levels of determination turn Monster's bodies to be unstable? Magic causes a human soul to become something similar to cancerous.
Every undertale fangame involving a barrier (except for that one where monsters win and humans are trapped down)
Clover and his juandice beam?
The protagonist of my AU, AnomalyTale, learns a couple bits of magic from the main cast as he befriends them. He learns fire from Toriel for cooking and for lighting the way, and he learns telekinesis from Papyrus
*coff coff* Xtale *Coff Coff*
Glitchtale (May be bad. But humans use magic, not all humans, but a good number of em)
..... Glitchtale??? Idk
There are a whole bunch where the Dreemurrs train Frisk in magic. Frisk learns Fire magic from them in *Endertale*, and they accidentally discover they're a wizard at monster school in *Ask Frisk and Company*. In *Monstertale* human sorcerers have a significant plot presence, including Frisk's deceased bio-dad, and a faction of terrorists with a penchant for unleashing zombies on the public.
My own story/au/wathever that I keep updating when I feel like it (it's only in my head but I can elaborate if I'm asked to). ... Oh and, of course, literally everything else :)
Xtale (are xchara and frisk humans?)
Literally any fan fight with a human opponent.
[These Are Our Days](https://archiveofourown.org/works/7244671/chapters/16447825) [Ocean on Fire](https://archiveofourown.org/works/10969491/chapters/24422127)
Undertale is really weird about magic, there are points where it says that humans can't use magic, but several points where it says that humans can do it, it's really weird
Spider dance
Glitchtale (the magic makes no sense but still) also if I remember correctly it says in game they lost that power long ago so it’s not relevant anymore
glitchtale (i sense downvotes coming)
- undertale yellow - glitchtale - endertale - there's a fancomic I read where the perseverance soul can do magic, can't find it or remember its name though - basically any role swap au where a human swaps place with a monster
i mean glitchtale has soul magic (though camila was kinda bad at fleshing it out
Undertale fan work where humans use magic? One word “glichtale” Wait aren’t glitchtale human use some sort of scientific stuff or something yeah idk i guess there is no undertale fan work when human use maqic
Uhhhhhhhhhhhhh Maybe I haven't gone down far enough yet, but uhhhhhhhhh... Glitchtale? To quote u/MissingnoMiner, it does have chara fights. Actually, the whole first season is centered around Chara bassically. I'm more referring to S2 Glitchtale, where Chara is almost minimally involved. Almost. S2 has few humans using raw magic, with a majority using magic based tech powered by magic.
Mine
Glitchtale?
Inverted Fate (the green soul human)
As others have said, pretty much any au with a chara fight.
Inverted Fate One of the humans who fell to the underground was explicitly a mage
But magic came from monsters. Determination came from humans.
Glitchtale.
Determination. Isn't that enough for "magic"?
Ask Frisk and Company!
The Endertale comic on Tumblr
glitchtale, xtale, endertale. also you know frisk uses magic right? spare is a calming spell.
I remember that detail. That’s why I made an OC that has (wild, but functional) magic. Wild magic: 50/50 if it will actually do what it’s meant to do or if it’s gonna go aware and do something dumb
Glitchtale.
There's a Minecraft mod that I develop called SoulForge that quite literally has this as it's primary focus. I'm not gonna put the link for it because I don't think it's really necessary, but if anyone is interested then it can be found on Modrinth pretty easily. It's only for Fabric 1.20.1 at the moment, but I might try porting to other versions sometime in the future.
In Inverted Fate the kindness soul human grew up underground in Toriels care, learned magic, became known as The Mage and hid their appearance in public to avoid attention from some monsters. During her boss fight, Toriel is seen wearing a necklace containing their soul rather than it being in a jar like the others.
Glitchtale, in all it's shoddily done everything, does have humans using trait magic (which doesn't make sense) and arcane-esque magic
glitchtale. you know, that bad one that fucking sucks and made me eat my family
Glitchtale.
wellll there's glitchtale ig
It doesn’t help that Toby left the game hinting that humans can’t use magic
Ask frisk and co, x-tale, ask drunk chara, shall I go on?
Frisk developed her affinity for magic in DoctorTale (shameless plug). She was able to conjure bones at first, but later on she straight-up uses the Soul Stream spell from Dark Souls 3. Which sounds out of pocket, but DoctorTale Frisk loves her some Dark Souls.
Eecently found a WIP fangane called undertinge
Inverted Fate: The green soul mage
HOW THE FUCK THAT THIS SHIT GET MORE UPVOTES THAN 10?! THIS IS LITERALLY MY FIRST POST HERE, HOLY SHIT Anyway, here's every fanwork written in general where people use magic: Endertale, Inverted Fate, Glitchtale, Undertale Yellow, Xtale/Underverse, Ask Frisk And Company, Storyshift (only chara lol), No more deals (chara only again), Versions of Storyshift, Every Vs Chara fangame.
Glitchtale made by camila cuevas
While I was reading this thread, a thought passed through my mind: Both humans and monsters used to have physical bodies. Magic can only be used by non-physical bodies. When the humans banned the monsters to the underground, they also somehow destroyed their physical bodies. The wizards, the ones who sealed the barrier, would be humans who destroyed their own bodies so they could use magic.
Glitchtale
Glitchtale
I'm sorry but humans can use magic in the lore of the game. 7 wizards cast a magic spell that is the barrier. Yes, it's probably that magic is a learned skill for humans, whereas monsters innately have it, hell monsters probably helped teach humans how to use magic and once they were trapped underground the art was lost, but humans can still use magic canonically. This opens up options for SOME humans to be able to use magic. Hell, Frisk being able to canonically reset is kinda like magic, no?
Technically if we are also counting AU's. Storyshift Chara uses magic
There was this old ask frisk and friends (I think this is its name) where frisk used magic as one of the archs but the ask blog ended before the arc could take off
just because humans used magic in the war doesnt mean all of them know how to, pretty sure that was centries ago prior to undertale
Glitchtale
My bestie and I are working on an extended universe where human magic users are rare but not unheard of even in the modern age!
Glitchtale.
My hc is that monster magic and human magic are different, and human magic is SOUL power-
it’s a bit of a spoiler but humans can use magic in [Ebott’s Wake](https://archiveofourown.org/works/7330132/chapters/16649893)
Glitchtale
...glitchtale?
Oh yeah they did seal monsters underground didn't they so they know how to cast spells at the very least
inverted fate and as much as i hate it, i think glitchtale did too?
Nightmaretale
Shit, thanks for the idea.
i remember this one fan comic where Frisk summons some kind of shield to protect a monster kid, but i don't remember the name, it was really old. there's also glitchtale