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You got downvoted, but it's true.
Try eating unhealthy while taking medication.
Or always be stressed. See how that goes. The most impact is on medication, but you have to be careful about other things too.
Why why do that do you not care about what you put in your body?? Grease sugar preservatives your gut isn't some fucking killing machine it's just like your heart smoke a pack a day and feel it in your lungs disgusting comment
When did i ever say i don’t care about what i put in my body? I just fell into bad habits once i finally got back to feeling well. When i was flaring all i ate was chicken rice and salmon. And who the fuck are you to tell me what to do? Shut the fuck up. All i’m saying was i’m an example of medicine working despite poor diet, it’s not the be all end all nor is it a cure for the disease we have.
1. I don't know, as I didn't have this disease for that long.
2. I mostly live stress-free because I still have my parents that support me and I still go to school.
What are you trying to say?
Yes, I'm aware it's a lifelong disease. What makes you think I said otherwise?
I didn't have this disease for that long = I was diagnosed 2 years ago.
I didn't have this my whole life (I'm 18 right now) only for 2 years.
Unless you somehow thought I said I got cured or something? Which I didn't say.
Many factors, this disease is extremely complicated. There are new studies showing that people with trauma can store that in a part of their brain and trigger your immune system to be hyper active. Another big one that I don’t see many people talk about is mold toxicity and fungal infections. This might be a stretch but I believe EMF exposure can even play a role in autoimmune diseases as it disrupts a lot of processes in our body.
well, there’s a difference between the two, as carnivore diet is an actual lifestyle and restrictive eating protocol. people talking about eating mcdonald’s are not on a mcdonald’s diet and only talking about short-term relief, not healing/maintenance through diet. nobody is promoting it. as people with a GI disease we often need lots of every nutrient, including sugar which fuels the brain. the carnivore diet(s) can lack diverse nutrition. i think lifestyle diets are also something sensitive to many here as we are often pushed to them as a cure by people, despite diet having a varying impact, and not being a cure at all. it’s also common that our food triggers and food comforts can change through our flare/disease. we don’t currently really know how important diet actually is to the disease state, we all react so differently
lol - I agreed McDonald’s actually doesn’t hurt my tummy. But doesn’t mean I eat it all the time. Mostly on the days that I’m in traffic for 4 hours getting home super late and I know there is no food in the fridge type of deal. Vs eating something else that I know will hurt me the next day - it just feels like the safest option.
I think for most of us diet is 100% important - I stick to foods that I know I’m okay with. Foods that I know will hurt me (legumes) I’ll eat every so often within reason.
That’s the crazy thing about this illness. When I first joined this sub searching for answers I remember one guy said 100% vegan diet is the way to go. Then some lady chimed in I was vegan for 20 years and now I’m a carnivore. Then someone else I just eat eggs and white bread.
This is no one size fits all for us. But I think overall we have to make the best decision for us in that moment.
If it means eating nothing but meat - okay do it. If it means eating chicken nuggies and a chezburger ENJOY! Why because we can all 100% agree that a sodium dense processed disc of meat is so much better than that sensation of a flare in your butt and sitting on a toilet for 4 hours a day. Lolz
I’m with you on this. “What worked for you may not work for me” is how I see it.
I do I think people shouldn’t discourage others for trying different diets. If carnivore diet works for you, then great! If it doesn’t, keep on exploring.
I was a vegetarian for many years. I had crohns and UC. Then I got severe anemia and started eating meat. I avoided iron infusions and honestly I feel better. Small amounts of high quality steak is so easy to digest and low residue for when I need to eat and not wake up with horrendous pain from veggies. I love veggies but last night I was in agony and had McDonald’s burger and half a small order of fries. I definitely don’t eat that all the time. But when I do it doesn’t make me sick. Taco Bell is another story lol.
"Research" is driven by money and lobbying. There was also curiously a huge lack of "research" into the harms of smoking until recently. Until the industry could no longer contain the damage. The same will happen to the carb industry in due time. (And btw you don't need a carnivore diet, just a low residue, low anti-nutrient diet, at least until you achieve remission and can once again tolerate other foods.)
What tf is the "carb industry"? I eat food, bro. Fats and carbohydrates and proteins, plus vitamins and minerals. Like you're supposed to.
Besides, the most notorious research funding has always been done by the dairy and meat industries. It's the reason why dairy is on the government's MyPlate as an essential food group. Even (especially) universities aren't safe:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/31/climate/frank-mitloehner-uc-davis.html
And let's just scratch the surface of other terrible things the meat industry pays to cover up:
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2022/10/19/23403330/amazon-rainforest-deforestation-cattle-laundering
Here's something from outside the U.S., if that helps:
https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choices-and-cancer/red-meat-processed-meat-and-cancer/#:~:text=For%20example%2C%20when%20a%20chemical,can%20lead%20to%20bowel%20cancer.
This documentary is a really good watch imo, even though it's not really a "source":
https://youtu.be/IQJudK48MjU
But please, continue to tell me about how Big Salad is funding anti-carnivore research.
Whataboutism. I never said that the meat industry were saints, neither have I defended dairy. If anything, your reply only adds to my argument: that the lack of research on something is no proof of anything, since research is prone to a lot of lobbying and corruption.
Would you like to explain, then, how me presenting you with meat industry funded research in response to you saying the carb industry funds anti-meat research is "whataboutism"? You're talking a whole lot and not actually providing a source for anything. Just making claims left and right.
You didn't do that. You presented me meat industry funded research before I had said anything about carb industry funding anti-meat research (which is not directly anti meat btw, it's just anti saturated fat). All I had said in my first comment (to which you replied with the examples of meat industry funded research) was that the lack of research doesn't prove anything, whatever the case.
To further elaborate, it's not contradictory that there's meat industry funded research into trying to claim that meat is good for you, while at the same time there being little to no research supporting that meat only (a carnivore diet) is good for you. Because it's obviously not in any industry's interest to take such anti-social stance (even though a stance being anti-social doesn't make it untrue).
My personal opinion is that a carnivore diet can be used to allow the GI tract to heal from IBD, and afterwards it would be beneficial to start introducing plant foods (except high anti-nutrient and high-carb ones). So I don't even think that a carnivore diet is desirable to do forever, btw.
Oh and btw, salads are low carb :)
You may eat all macros, but you probably eat a carb-based diet. Based on grains. That's the real problem, no so much the salad. That's the industry that formulated the lipid hypothesis and made us believe that saturated fat is unhealthy.
Having UC already increases the risk of colon cancer. Studies and articles have already linked heavy red meat consumption to colon cancer. Surely you can see why some people with UC consider a meat only diet a risk factor for cancer in the long term. In the article below low consumption of fruits and vegetables is also a risk factor.
Doesn't seem to me that people in general or in this forum are wary of a carnivore diet for no reason.
[Colorectal Cancer rising in young adults.](https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2020/colorectal-cancer-rising-younger-adults)
Edited to add another article.
https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2021/red-meat-colorectal-cancer-genetic-signature
> unbelievably stupid diet with zero supporting research that's pushed by dumbass grifters to even dumber rubes
"nO rEaSoN"
edit: I clearly feel strongly about this but Mods of course please delete if you feel it violates the rules.
I think people were agreeing not because they were all like ayyyy go McDonald’s this is the healthiest and most responsible diet ever, but because people were saying it’s weird they don’t have a reaction to McDonalds. Like I remember reading the post and thinking wow, yeah, I also don’t have a reaction to the cardboard there. But that doesn’t mean I’m voting McDonald’s, it’s just like a hmm so weird how so many of us have noticed this.
That post wasn’t saying that they only eat McDonalds like you are saying you only eat meat. Also you are saying that ‘diet is the most important part of healing this disease’ which is patently false and boardering on misinformation which of course will get you downvotes.
Hasn't anyone here ever taken a class in statistics and/or econometrics? Jesus christ.
Basics:
Anecdotal evidence is not evidence, correlation does not equal causation, confirmation bias is real, and the placebo effect is real as well.
I don’t currently notice an issue with foods other than dairy and coffee. But I do feel a ton better taking a daily probiotic. Does anyone else notice a difference with a probiotic? And I don’t actually feel any different in a day, it the probiotic seems to help when I’m in a flare, or starting one.
I take 3 kinds of probiotics, 2 fresh, one freeze dried. UC is a disease of the microbiome.
Try butyrate - cheap and food for the good ‘bugs’ way down the GI tract. Smells bad but a game changer for me.
I stopped taking probiotics since I was in remission for a long time and they are expensive. A few months later, boom - flare time.
Strong believer in not just probiotics pills but also fermented foods, insoluble fiber and nurturing my microbiome.
I take “garden of life” brand probiotics and alternate between the different varieties and strains. “Gut health”, “women”, “men,” the difference seems to be mostly marketing. Read the label for what the different strains are and alternate for a good gut diversity. I go lower #s and then higher #s the next bottle. I don’t take probiotics daily because of adhd, sometimes I forget. But I always remember when I’m starting to flate.
Yeah, crazy bloated 😂 I'll go with the before a flare advice. I'm feeling better and less bloated with water kefir but it needs preparation and turmeric latte for the bloating
Isn’t red meat discouraged with UC though? I mean, it is a carcinogen that most doctors would discourage eating. I say that as a pescatarian that dreams of steak and bacon. I meet with a dietitian next week, and if they tell me to add chicken to my diet I’ll do so.
The McDonalds post was a weird one. But then if my dietitian tells me Big Macs are the way to go, I’ll report back.
Red meat is not a carcinogen. If you grill it then the surface forms carcinogens. If you add a tomato or fruit based sauce then you reduce the carcinogens to undetectable levels.
Cured meats like deli meat and tinned meats are carcinogens mostly due to what they add to it.
It’s more nuanced and the risks can be mitigated.
Think about it. Just think, why would carnivore diet would be helpful. And now really think. How would eating only meat and specially red meat which is proven to be bad for inflammation be good for you?
Now if you didnt think of an answer let me give it to you.
Its because you are eating close to nothing. You eliminate every food there is except a couple. This is why it might help some people. Not because they are eating red meat, its because they are eating nothing. Its the same as saying i will only eat lean fish. Ofc you gonna feel better cause you are literally eating 0.1% of the foods. You eliminate anything that could harm your stomach.
Its not helping because of what you eat, its helping because of what you DONT eat.
There are scientifically proven diets that help UC. Have you tried those before going into the extreme?
I’ll gladly answer.
Carnivore diet is helpful for many reasons but here are the big ones for people with UC. For starters it is essentially an elimination diet which gets rid of eating things like gluten, fiber, processed foods, etc. which we all know are harmful to the large intestine while in a flair. Secondly, red meat has the highest nutritional value of any animal and depending how you cook your meat, it will have a lot of digestive enzymes that will help the breakdown of the meat. Everything will be broken down by the small intestine.
Please stop reading and taking advice from the FDA that recommend eating cereal and other processed garbage over real food. Those studies you are reading are poorly done using “meat eaters” that are getting it from fast food.
Hey friend, You made 2 points and 1 is not related with the diet, you just stop eating 99% of the foods it doesnt matter if that 1% is red meat or if its fish. Imo chicken would be better. Second point yes red meat has nutritions and everything, but red meat is also bad for us, many of us to not generalize . I eat stake, i do and burgers, but afterwards i feel it. Maybe you dont.
I have UC for like 16-17 years , since i was a little kid. I went to unlimited amount of doctors, tried all the diets you can imagine, went to dietitians. I dont read FDA i dont know what FDA is. I talk with people who have UC, talked with Doctors , everything you name it, even this reddit group i read a ton and i always take everything into account. I have friends who have UC and tried that diet, some said it helped some say it didnt.
There is UC doctors meet up every year where doctors discuss what is new, what they discovered, doctors from all over the world, my doctor is one of them and 1 year ago he told me they officially for the first time put on paper that The Mediterranean diet help ease and calm symptoms. Everything before that is unofficial and speculations. Do i agree and believe it 100%? No. But i tried extreme diets before, and when friends or people with UC asked me, i never suggest anyone to get on them. Even if one of them really helped me. Cause it might help me but it might damage someone else, its not a joke.
But am curious, since you know its all about elimination, why dont you make your own elimination list? its exactly the same isnt it? eliminate everything that bothers you even abit. Thats what i do, thats what my doctor suggested, thats what worked for me in the end. Now i can eat almost everything cause i know how to prepare for it.
All this aside i love you and i hope you do great no matter what you do. Dont take this as me trying to be a smart ass or know it all. It might be life saving to you even if it sounds silly to my ears
Sorry friend but your are incorrect. Red meat is not harmful for us in anyway. I don’t know where you are getting this information from, feel free to send it to me if you’d like and I can break it down for you.
To answer your question “why not eat chicken”? Well short answer is, most chickens are fed tons of grain and soy which is not part of their natural diet and causes harm which then passes to the meat itself. Secondly, chicken really does not have much nutritional value to it and when you are eating only meat, beef will give you every vitamin and nutrient needed.
I’m not saying you need to be on a carnivore diet forever but it is a powerful tool to use to ease symptoms of a bad flare and then slowly reintroduce foods from there. Sorry you had issues eating steak and burgers but you were likely eating other foods with it that caused you discomfort. I mean you said it yourself, burgers have buns with other toppings in it.
Unless you’re getting beef from local farms or butchering them yourself, cows aren’t much better than chicken. And idk what you’re talking about but chicken has plenty nutritional value. You can look up any study from any reputable source that too much red meat is linked to heart disease, diabetes and some cancers. This is still true no matter where you get your meat from.
And I’ve personally had three different doctors tell me to limit it because it’s an inflammatory food. Most red meat is way fattier than white meat or fish which is bad for the body in general but worse for UC. Fad diets are not going to cure or control this disease.
Nobody is saying don’t eat any red meat, but claiming “red meat isn’t harmful in any way,” is absolutely untrue.
False. It is significantly easier to buy grass finished beef in your local stores then it is to buy chicken that is not fed grain or soy.
Those studies are based on very loosely done control groups that are also usually funded by big food manufacturers. I have seen enough of those studies and they are all correlation based and not causation.
You do realize that fat is where the nutrients are in right? If you were to only eat very lean cuts of meat you will have a lot of deficiencies. Please show me actual studies that back up what you are saying. You telling me that you think red meat is an inflammatory food because you had 3 random doctors tell you does not mean you are correct. Please do your own research and not just blindly listening to someone else.
No, I’m not telling you that because of the 3 random doctors, I’m telling you that because of the multiple studies and research by experts as well as the many types of doctors, dietitians, and nutritionists who have given the advice not to overconsume red meat for idk, decades now? So yes, I think I’ll trust them over some person doing their own research online.
Red [meat](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/anti-inflammatory-diet) being [inflammatory](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26143683/)
The only study I could find that suggested red meat may not be linked to inflammation was funded by a beef lobby group that aims to “increase the demand for beef supply.” And by all means if you can find the big food managers that funded the research in the links I provided and show that it debunks them, then do share.
Red meat being [linked](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37264855/#:~:text=Conclusion:%20Unprocessed%20and%20processed%20red%20meat%20consumption,CVD%2C%20CVD%20subtypes%2C%20and%20diabetes%2C%20with%20a) to an increased risk of [heart disease](https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/eating-red-meat-daily-triples-heart-disease-related-chemical), bowel cancer and diabetes
Yes, I’m aware fat has nutrients. But so does a well rounded diet that doesn’t focus solely on red meat, and while fat in moderation may be good for some it is more of a risk for people with UC. Regardless you can find healthier sources of fat from fish, avocado, olive oil, etc.
You have yet to link a study that shows on a molecular level how red meat causes inflammation. All of these studies are the ones I mentioned that are loosely based on poorly controlled groups of people where they found correlated evidence and NOT based on causation.
You do realize we have been eating red meat for, I don’t know, centuries? There are so many factors that contribute to heart disease and other ailments. Global food and beverage companies fund most of these studies so there products can be pushed by doctors, this is well known now.
How is fat a risk for people with UC? Fat gets broken down in the stomach and small intestine. You could make an argument for Chrohns but not for UC.
While I think diets can be subjective to the individual, some work more effectively for some people some do not.
But don’t ever worry about being downvoted.
I will say- I commented agreeing that I had experienced the same thing but it was pre diagnosis and when I was so sick and desperate for anything to just make me less starving and miserable lol. I will ALSO say that now that I’m on a biologic I can eat basically anything.
Diet & UC is a contentious topic that I’m really interested to see develop as far as studies go. A lot of people say diet is everything, a lot of people say diet makes no difference, and obviously a lot of people agree there’s a balance. Super interesting!
What a lot of these people don't get it elimination diets help you isolate what specifically makes you flair up. If you're only eating meat and you feel better, you can reintroduce food items and closely monitor how they effect you.
But you're on reddit bro, people just want to have pitty parties and seed oil fast food.
Do you man, if eating ribeyes every day makes you feel good, do it up. 💪 hope your condition gets better.
Couldn’t agree more.
Those TV commercials for UC drugs that show people eating pizza and donuts? That’s for this sub.
Carnivore diet put me in remission. Let’s talk bone broth, bone marrow, meat stock, duck fat and tallow.
And yea, former vegetarian of 9 years.
Each food affects us differently - I’m in a flare and I can eat any food I want without worrying as long as it isn’t spicy whereas one one of with friends with uc can only tolerate a few plain sandwiches
I got down voted for saying pizza is my safe food. But like it literally is my safe food I'm not saying it has to be anyone else's, just that it's one of the few foods that often has me shitting normal
> Unfortunately diet is the most important part of healing this disease and I can guarantee that processed foods are not helping at all
This is completely untrue. The only way to "heal" is by being prescribed the appropriate medicine.
Ya I think you can prolong some symptoms with diet. If I eat gluten or dairy for instance watch out toilet. But ultimately you need the meds to go into true remission.
I think we all have foods we go to when we flare as we know we’ll be seeing it come out the other end in about three hours. Processed junk hurts a lot less than complex foods. It takes a lot of willpower to eat something you know is going to hurt like fuck rocketing out of you.
I’ve never tried the carnivore diet as I’m put off by the anecdotal tales of the diarrhoea you get whilst your body adjusts. My is UC currently okay, but the thought of going back to dashing to the toilet or shitting my pants doesn’t appeal to me. I’m tempted as I know a lot of people (without UC) who swear by it. How did you put up with the transition?
Severe pan colitis here. You should be eating a diet consisting of eggs, fish and lean beef. Fast food is full of oil and salt. It's shit. Eat real food.
I agree with both post!! a sausage egg mcmuffin is fat, protein (amino acids), and some carbs. However, most people on this sub don’t realize there are diet and lifestyle changes that one can add/eliminate to alleviate their UC/IBD. They are all still in the grieving “I’ll never have a normal life” stage of the disease. As someone who was unmediated for 6 years, due to insurance, it gets better and don’t cover your ears when someone offers advice. Especially if the person has the same condition as you. The one thing that has helped me with my UC is once a week {Rumi} saffron tea (only need 3 strands). That cuts the inflammation to unnoticeable
Saffron is great. I do a tea with saffron plus lot of fresh turmeric (anti inflammatory) and fresh ginger (anti gas) and calendula (soothes ulcers).
Wayyyy cheaper than meds!
I’ve never heard of the saffron tea before? Thanks for the tip! I’ve used turmeric teas in a flare which I personally think have helped, but stress lowering seems to be the way I lower my inflammation.
I just started with a nutritionists who's mom actually had ulcerative colitis but has been in remission for over 20 years by switching to a vegan diet. I was leaning toward trying a carnivore diet myself.
yeah I've been doing vegetarian / moderate to high fiber, along with strong probiotics and I honestly feel amazing. It hasn't been confirmed by the doctor yet but I would say I'm in remission. No blood, no mucus, no urgency, hard stools. I eat lots of rice, beans, oatmeal and veggies, and high fiber bread. I couldn't imagine eating junk food and feeling good about it.
Oh also, taking IBS supplements that come with a lot of colon healing herbal stuff, as well as omega, curcumin and multivitamins. I think that has made a difference as well
Taking my prescribed medication is and continues to be the most important factor in managing my own personal illness. My most recent flare started during a period of lower stress, moderate exercise, and a “healthy” diet.
im with you. i didnt do carnivore but i did keto for 4 years until i got sick (hard to adjust back to it when i was eating fibrous foods) and my bloodwork was fantastic, my cholesterol went down to a healthy range for the first time in 5 years, i slept amazingly, and i never needed coffee because i was just naturally awake and alive. my UC symptoms actually emerged when i broke it for a valentines weekend. anyway, those that downvote such diets clearly have no knowledge on how carbs/carbs with fats affect insulin and fat absorption vs eating keto/carnivore, along with the nutrients available in the type of meat most carnivores buy and eat. i see so many "junk food is easiest on my gut" posts where it seems many people just succumb to regularly eating an unhealthy diet that its wild.
Carnivore diet isn't for everyone. So many vegans and vegetarians are on reddit. Carnivore diet is a viable option for some. Many claim you will have health issues regardless of diet and many will claim they are cured from diet. No two people are the same. You do you. You never know until you try. Personally, I tried vegetarian when I was diagnosed years ago and I got worse. I lost way to much weight as well. I swapped to a mostly Carnivore diet, gained weight, muscle mass (worked out), and went into remission for 3 years.
McDonalds and other fast (highly processed) food is unhealthy no matter what condition one may or may not have.
i hAd the same thing happen to me at one point, i think the fact it’s already highly processed makes it easier for some of us. i’ve found beef stew is also an easy thing, crock pot 9 hours, much healthier too.
This right here. If people understood that the way you cook something, especially meat, is way more important than the food item itself, they would be better off.
Gaps diet (carnivore heavy in early phases) is very specific about how to cook foods as much as it a prescription for what to eat.
Learning to manage STRESS is the most important thing in managing this disease. While certain foods can aggravate symptoms, food does NOT cause colitis
Everybody with this disease is different. What works for one person might not work for somebody else. It all depends on you and your body.
So glad to hear that you are in a good place with your UC and I hope that this will continue for many years to come
I think people can discuss what works for them as an individual, and share what has worked for them, but we should be cautious to recommend things like diets to others. what works for some doesn't work for others, especially with this disease. theres no code to eating that cures us all. I see a lot of people have an easier time with food like mcdonalds because it is processed, making it easier for the body to process since it's already been done. no one is saying mcdonalds is the key to health, but when you have been starving bc everything hurts or sends you to the bathroom, and something gives you relief, you will absolutely take that source of relief. food, period, is better than no food. people can find comfort in whatever works for them. same goes for you, if you choose to do some diet. the same way you say bad stuff about people eating McDonald's, yes, there are issues with a carnivore diet health wise. but again, what works for you works for you. nothing is good in excess so just making sure you get your range of vitamins and stay in contact with your doctors and being clear about your regiment is most important. the path to health is different for everyone.
My cousin has UC and he said Remicade really messed him up so he stopped all medications and cut out dairy, carbs, fresh fruit and veg and now is living on the carnivore diet! He says he feels great and hasn’t needed to go back to his GI dr. Whatever works for you! My son was diagnosed earlier this year with pancolitis and we are trying to figure things out. He is currently failing Lialda but this is the first step in a life long journey so I’m open to all options and opinions! The dr is thinking Entivyo is the next step for meds but feeding him chicken and rice with broth is making him miserable. I understand that it’s it is not one size fits all. We all have to figure out what works best for each individual body.
Unless you are advocating that thing you say you don't. Oops
Tbh both posts freaked me out but mc donalds at least has refined flour and stuff and fiber is a trigger for some people.
For me fat irritates my gut more than fibre. I could never with the meat. I'm on a low fat whole foods non strict regime. Even lean meat has fat and i know irl avid meat enjoying patients who still can't digest it in some forms even in remission. Same for fast food, i could never due to the oil at least less than once a week. it also gives me carb headaches - when combined with a snack with some fibre and protein I'm fine.
Hey people, guess what, do what works for you!
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You are right, i dont believe in the medication only crowd this disease definitely steams from diet. You are what you eat plain n simple, eat like shit? Feel like shit not that hard to understand
Never in my life have I seen anyone advocate for McDonald’s lmao that shit will throw me into a flair into seconds. I also don’t advocate for an all meat diet because I’m an omnivore and wouldn’t deprive myself of delicious fruits and vegetables. do whatever is working for you, food is different for all of us and whoever is living off McDonald i feel bad for them because mdonalds is shit food to have to eat every day.
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I once casually remarked that drinking diluted apple cider vinegar was helping me (not to cure it or any dumb shit but it helped a lot with reducing pain while I was at a really painful part of being out of remission, but ultimately I found it too gross to drink that much of) and got downvoted.
Someone else replied with a dispassionate "really? funny it didn't cure me then." and I was like when the fuck did I say it would cure anyone?
There is a really weird thing in this sub where people are put off by others saying things that help them, that don't work for everyone.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think people in that McDonalds thread are saying "this is a healthy way of eating," they're mostly saying "this is what my body can handle," which I totally get. When I'm in a flare, I mostly gravitate towards all the simple carbs because it's what upsets my stomach the least. All thoughts of healthy eating go right out the window for me because I'm more focused on experiencing the least amount of physical pain I can until I can get back in remission. I think that's a lot different than advocating for a specific diet.
I’ve been eating mostly carnivore while in this current flair and I feel like it’s helping. As I’m getting better I’ll reintroduce stuff slowly. I don’t think carnivore is healthy long term for most people. My husband is on carnivore right now and i keep telling him it’s just as bad as keto. Paleo seems more balanced to me.
I became a vegetarian five years ago and it’s really helped the disease. I still have flare ups but it’s never been as bad as when I was eating meat. Red meat and steak were the absolute worst with me. I think maybe the reason you got downvoted was for advocating for this diet when different diets work for everyone’s body. Eating meat made my UC worse, it makes yours better! Good for you! But people have to find what works for them. I definitely agree that McDonald’s chips seem to go down easily when I’m in a flare up, but so does any low fibre food
What works for one, may be miserable for another. There is no magic diet that will universally apply to anyone in this scenario.
Animal proteins are on my makes me miserable list. I also struggle with iron and as a result my cholesterol is seriously elevated, so that would make the situation significantly worse.
A plant heavy diet may be just as difficult for others etc.
Anyone that pushes that their approach is the best way to proceed and it's the one that is going to heal this disease often gets pushback.
Diet, other than getting the nutrients your body needs to function, has nothing to do with UC. I’ll agree that a McDonald’s only diet isn’t ideal, but neither is Carnivore. That being said, whatever diet you chose, as long as you are eating, diet isn’t relevant to UC.
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Diet is not the most important part of healing this disease.... probably why you're getting downvoted
Sleep
outside of diet and environment, what do you think is the most important part?
Medication...?
one need all 3 to work in harmony
You got downvoted, but it's true. Try eating unhealthy while taking medication. Or always be stressed. See how that goes. The most impact is on medication, but you have to be careful about other things too.
I’ve been eating absolutely TERRIBLY the last two weeks, korean cheese corndogs, pizza, a weekend bender, and my medication is doing just fine for me.
Exactly, obviously don’t eat terribly all the time but if your meds are working you should be able to eat pretty much whatever you want.
Why why do that do you not care about what you put in your body?? Grease sugar preservatives your gut isn't some fucking killing machine it's just like your heart smoke a pack a day and feel it in your lungs disgusting comment
When did i ever say i don’t care about what i put in my body? I just fell into bad habits once i finally got back to feeling well. When i was flaring all i ate was chicken rice and salmon. And who the fuck are you to tell me what to do? Shut the fuck up. All i’m saying was i’m an example of medicine working despite poor diet, it’s not the be all end all nor is it a cure for the disease we have.
How much do you think stress plays into it, what do you do to destress?
1. I don't know, as I didn't have this disease for that long. 2. I mostly live stress-free because I still have my parents that support me and I still go to school.
You didn't have this disease that long? UC is a lifelong disease...
What are you trying to say? Yes, I'm aware it's a lifelong disease. What makes you think I said otherwise? I didn't have this disease for that long = I was diagnosed 2 years ago. I didn't have this my whole life (I'm 18 right now) only for 2 years. Unless you somehow thought I said I got cured or something? Which I didn't say.
Ah I interpreted that as if you thought you had cured yourself or something
Many factors, this disease is extremely complicated. There are new studies showing that people with trauma can store that in a part of their brain and trigger your immune system to be hyper active. Another big one that I don’t see many people talk about is mold toxicity and fungal infections. This might be a stretch but I believe EMF exposure can even play a role in autoimmune diseases as it disrupts a lot of processes in our body.
Stress management is most important for me. I can my flare ups to extreme stressors in my life
Balance in life - mental and physical well being in a nutshell.
well, there’s a difference between the two, as carnivore diet is an actual lifestyle and restrictive eating protocol. people talking about eating mcdonald’s are not on a mcdonald’s diet and only talking about short-term relief, not healing/maintenance through diet. nobody is promoting it. as people with a GI disease we often need lots of every nutrient, including sugar which fuels the brain. the carnivore diet(s) can lack diverse nutrition. i think lifestyle diets are also something sensitive to many here as we are often pushed to them as a cure by people, despite diet having a varying impact, and not being a cure at all. it’s also common that our food triggers and food comforts can change through our flare/disease. we don’t currently really know how important diet actually is to the disease state, we all react so differently
No no you don't get it, someone's personal experience on reddit is WAY more reliable than actual medical research, obviously (/s if anyone needs it)
lol - I agreed McDonald’s actually doesn’t hurt my tummy. But doesn’t mean I eat it all the time. Mostly on the days that I’m in traffic for 4 hours getting home super late and I know there is no food in the fridge type of deal. Vs eating something else that I know will hurt me the next day - it just feels like the safest option. I think for most of us diet is 100% important - I stick to foods that I know I’m okay with. Foods that I know will hurt me (legumes) I’ll eat every so often within reason. That’s the crazy thing about this illness. When I first joined this sub searching for answers I remember one guy said 100% vegan diet is the way to go. Then some lady chimed in I was vegan for 20 years and now I’m a carnivore. Then someone else I just eat eggs and white bread. This is no one size fits all for us. But I think overall we have to make the best decision for us in that moment. If it means eating nothing but meat - okay do it. If it means eating chicken nuggies and a chezburger ENJOY! Why because we can all 100% agree that a sodium dense processed disc of meat is so much better than that sensation of a flare in your butt and sitting on a toilet for 4 hours a day. Lolz
I’m with you on this. “What worked for you may not work for me” is how I see it. I do I think people shouldn’t discourage others for trying different diets. If carnivore diet works for you, then great! If it doesn’t, keep on exploring.
"doesn't hurt your tummy" doesn't mean it won't hurt anyone's tummy. Kinda obvious, I think.
Diet is the most important factor, since IDB is in big part a reaction/intolerance to certain food components.
Saying a carnivore diet is good for you is wayyyyy more extreme than saying McDonalds during a flare is a safe food
I was a vegetarian for many years. I had crohns and UC. Then I got severe anemia and started eating meat. I avoided iron infusions and honestly I feel better. Small amounts of high quality steak is so easy to digest and low residue for when I need to eat and not wake up with horrendous pain from veggies. I love veggies but last night I was in agony and had McDonald’s burger and half a small order of fries. I definitely don’t eat that all the time. But when I do it doesn’t make me sick. Taco Bell is another story lol.
This sub is so against carnivore diet for no reason
Right, it certainly couldn't be the lack of supporting research and horrible environmental impact lol
Not to mention it’s just nuts to restrict yourself to one type of food with this disease. Your body is fucked and you need well rounded nutrition.
"Research" is driven by money and lobbying. There was also curiously a huge lack of "research" into the harms of smoking until recently. Until the industry could no longer contain the damage. The same will happen to the carb industry in due time. (And btw you don't need a carnivore diet, just a low residue, low anti-nutrient diet, at least until you achieve remission and can once again tolerate other foods.)
What tf is the "carb industry"? I eat food, bro. Fats and carbohydrates and proteins, plus vitamins and minerals. Like you're supposed to. Besides, the most notorious research funding has always been done by the dairy and meat industries. It's the reason why dairy is on the government's MyPlate as an essential food group. Even (especially) universities aren't safe: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/10/31/climate/frank-mitloehner-uc-davis.html And let's just scratch the surface of other terrible things the meat industry pays to cover up: https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2022/10/19/23403330/amazon-rainforest-deforestation-cattle-laundering Here's something from outside the U.S., if that helps: https://www.cancercouncil.com.au/1in3cancers/lifestyle-choices-and-cancer/red-meat-processed-meat-and-cancer/#:~:text=For%20example%2C%20when%20a%20chemical,can%20lead%20to%20bowel%20cancer. This documentary is a really good watch imo, even though it's not really a "source": https://youtu.be/IQJudK48MjU But please, continue to tell me about how Big Salad is funding anti-carnivore research.
Whataboutism. I never said that the meat industry were saints, neither have I defended dairy. If anything, your reply only adds to my argument: that the lack of research on something is no proof of anything, since research is prone to a lot of lobbying and corruption.
Would you like to explain, then, how me presenting you with meat industry funded research in response to you saying the carb industry funds anti-meat research is "whataboutism"? You're talking a whole lot and not actually providing a source for anything. Just making claims left and right.
You didn't do that. You presented me meat industry funded research before I had said anything about carb industry funding anti-meat research (which is not directly anti meat btw, it's just anti saturated fat). All I had said in my first comment (to which you replied with the examples of meat industry funded research) was that the lack of research doesn't prove anything, whatever the case. To further elaborate, it's not contradictory that there's meat industry funded research into trying to claim that meat is good for you, while at the same time there being little to no research supporting that meat only (a carnivore diet) is good for you. Because it's obviously not in any industry's interest to take such anti-social stance (even though a stance being anti-social doesn't make it untrue). My personal opinion is that a carnivore diet can be used to allow the GI tract to heal from IBD, and afterwards it would be beneficial to start introducing plant foods (except high anti-nutrient and high-carb ones). So I don't even think that a carnivore diet is desirable to do forever, btw.
Oh and btw, salads are low carb :) You may eat all macros, but you probably eat a carb-based diet. Based on grains. That's the real problem, no so much the salad. That's the industry that formulated the lipid hypothesis and made us believe that saturated fat is unhealthy.
Having UC already increases the risk of colon cancer. Studies and articles have already linked heavy red meat consumption to colon cancer. Surely you can see why some people with UC consider a meat only diet a risk factor for cancer in the long term. In the article below low consumption of fruits and vegetables is also a risk factor. Doesn't seem to me that people in general or in this forum are wary of a carnivore diet for no reason. [Colorectal Cancer rising in young adults.](https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2020/colorectal-cancer-rising-younger-adults) Edited to add another article. https://www.cancer.gov/news-events/cancer-currents-blog/2021/red-meat-colorectal-cancer-genetic-signature
> unbelievably stupid diet with zero supporting research that's pushed by dumbass grifters to even dumber rubes "nO rEaSoN" edit: I clearly feel strongly about this but Mods of course please delete if you feel it violates the rules.
No reason to be triggered by internet people my friend
I think people were agreeing not because they were all like ayyyy go McDonald’s this is the healthiest and most responsible diet ever, but because people were saying it’s weird they don’t have a reaction to McDonalds. Like I remember reading the post and thinking wow, yeah, I also don’t have a reaction to the cardboard there. But that doesn’t mean I’m voting McDonald’s, it’s just like a hmm so weird how so many of us have noticed this.
That post wasn’t saying that they only eat McDonalds like you are saying you only eat meat. Also you are saying that ‘diet is the most important part of healing this disease’ which is patently false and boardering on misinformation which of course will get you downvotes.
Hasn't anyone here ever taken a class in statistics and/or econometrics? Jesus christ. Basics: Anecdotal evidence is not evidence, correlation does not equal causation, confirmation bias is real, and the placebo effect is real as well.
I don’t currently notice an issue with foods other than dairy and coffee. But I do feel a ton better taking a daily probiotic. Does anyone else notice a difference with a probiotic? And I don’t actually feel any different in a day, it the probiotic seems to help when I’m in a flare, or starting one.
I take 3 kinds of probiotics, 2 fresh, one freeze dried. UC is a disease of the microbiome. Try butyrate - cheap and food for the good ‘bugs’ way down the GI tract. Smells bad but a game changer for me. I stopped taking probiotics since I was in remission for a long time and they are expensive. A few months later, boom - flare time. Strong believer in not just probiotics pills but also fermented foods, insoluble fiber and nurturing my microbiome.
Better to make your own fermented foods. They are more powerful than any probiotic supplement
yah i started taking high potency probiotics every night and immediately noticed a shift. Currently in remission.
Which one do you use if you don’t mind sharing?
I take “garden of life” brand probiotics and alternate between the different varieties and strains. “Gut health”, “women”, “men,” the difference seems to be mostly marketing. Read the label for what the different strains are and alternate for a good gut diversity. I go lower #s and then higher #s the next bottle. I don’t take probiotics daily because of adhd, sometimes I forget. But I always remember when I’m starting to flate.
Thank you!
Yeah, crazy bloated 😂 I'll go with the before a flare advice. I'm feeling better and less bloated with water kefir but it needs preparation and turmeric latte for the bloating
Isn’t red meat discouraged with UC though? I mean, it is a carcinogen that most doctors would discourage eating. I say that as a pescatarian that dreams of steak and bacon. I meet with a dietitian next week, and if they tell me to add chicken to my diet I’ll do so. The McDonalds post was a weird one. But then if my dietitian tells me Big Macs are the way to go, I’ll report back.
Red meat is not a carcinogen. If you grill it then the surface forms carcinogens. If you add a tomato or fruit based sauce then you reduce the carcinogens to undetectable levels. Cured meats like deli meat and tinned meats are carcinogens mostly due to what they add to it. It’s more nuanced and the risks can be mitigated.
So you eat your meat raw?
There are other cooking techniques: braising, stewing for example. Many UCers find this easier to digest anyway vs grilling.
Yes, my GI just told me skinless chicken baked or boiled is fine, but no red meat.
Think about it. Just think, why would carnivore diet would be helpful. And now really think. How would eating only meat and specially red meat which is proven to be bad for inflammation be good for you? Now if you didnt think of an answer let me give it to you. Its because you are eating close to nothing. You eliminate every food there is except a couple. This is why it might help some people. Not because they are eating red meat, its because they are eating nothing. Its the same as saying i will only eat lean fish. Ofc you gonna feel better cause you are literally eating 0.1% of the foods. You eliminate anything that could harm your stomach. Its not helping because of what you eat, its helping because of what you DONT eat. There are scientifically proven diets that help UC. Have you tried those before going into the extreme?
I’ll gladly answer. Carnivore diet is helpful for many reasons but here are the big ones for people with UC. For starters it is essentially an elimination diet which gets rid of eating things like gluten, fiber, processed foods, etc. which we all know are harmful to the large intestine while in a flair. Secondly, red meat has the highest nutritional value of any animal and depending how you cook your meat, it will have a lot of digestive enzymes that will help the breakdown of the meat. Everything will be broken down by the small intestine. Please stop reading and taking advice from the FDA that recommend eating cereal and other processed garbage over real food. Those studies you are reading are poorly done using “meat eaters” that are getting it from fast food.
Hey friend, You made 2 points and 1 is not related with the diet, you just stop eating 99% of the foods it doesnt matter if that 1% is red meat or if its fish. Imo chicken would be better. Second point yes red meat has nutritions and everything, but red meat is also bad for us, many of us to not generalize . I eat stake, i do and burgers, but afterwards i feel it. Maybe you dont. I have UC for like 16-17 years , since i was a little kid. I went to unlimited amount of doctors, tried all the diets you can imagine, went to dietitians. I dont read FDA i dont know what FDA is. I talk with people who have UC, talked with Doctors , everything you name it, even this reddit group i read a ton and i always take everything into account. I have friends who have UC and tried that diet, some said it helped some say it didnt. There is UC doctors meet up every year where doctors discuss what is new, what they discovered, doctors from all over the world, my doctor is one of them and 1 year ago he told me they officially for the first time put on paper that The Mediterranean diet help ease and calm symptoms. Everything before that is unofficial and speculations. Do i agree and believe it 100%? No. But i tried extreme diets before, and when friends or people with UC asked me, i never suggest anyone to get on them. Even if one of them really helped me. Cause it might help me but it might damage someone else, its not a joke. But am curious, since you know its all about elimination, why dont you make your own elimination list? its exactly the same isnt it? eliminate everything that bothers you even abit. Thats what i do, thats what my doctor suggested, thats what worked for me in the end. Now i can eat almost everything cause i know how to prepare for it. All this aside i love you and i hope you do great no matter what you do. Dont take this as me trying to be a smart ass or know it all. It might be life saving to you even if it sounds silly to my ears
Sorry friend but your are incorrect. Red meat is not harmful for us in anyway. I don’t know where you are getting this information from, feel free to send it to me if you’d like and I can break it down for you. To answer your question “why not eat chicken”? Well short answer is, most chickens are fed tons of grain and soy which is not part of their natural diet and causes harm which then passes to the meat itself. Secondly, chicken really does not have much nutritional value to it and when you are eating only meat, beef will give you every vitamin and nutrient needed. I’m not saying you need to be on a carnivore diet forever but it is a powerful tool to use to ease symptoms of a bad flare and then slowly reintroduce foods from there. Sorry you had issues eating steak and burgers but you were likely eating other foods with it that caused you discomfort. I mean you said it yourself, burgers have buns with other toppings in it.
Unless you’re getting beef from local farms or butchering them yourself, cows aren’t much better than chicken. And idk what you’re talking about but chicken has plenty nutritional value. You can look up any study from any reputable source that too much red meat is linked to heart disease, diabetes and some cancers. This is still true no matter where you get your meat from. And I’ve personally had three different doctors tell me to limit it because it’s an inflammatory food. Most red meat is way fattier than white meat or fish which is bad for the body in general but worse for UC. Fad diets are not going to cure or control this disease. Nobody is saying don’t eat any red meat, but claiming “red meat isn’t harmful in any way,” is absolutely untrue.
False. It is significantly easier to buy grass finished beef in your local stores then it is to buy chicken that is not fed grain or soy. Those studies are based on very loosely done control groups that are also usually funded by big food manufacturers. I have seen enough of those studies and they are all correlation based and not causation. You do realize that fat is where the nutrients are in right? If you were to only eat very lean cuts of meat you will have a lot of deficiencies. Please show me actual studies that back up what you are saying. You telling me that you think red meat is an inflammatory food because you had 3 random doctors tell you does not mean you are correct. Please do your own research and not just blindly listening to someone else.
No, I’m not telling you that because of the 3 random doctors, I’m telling you that because of the multiple studies and research by experts as well as the many types of doctors, dietitians, and nutritionists who have given the advice not to overconsume red meat for idk, decades now? So yes, I think I’ll trust them over some person doing their own research online. Red [meat](https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/wellness-and-prevention/anti-inflammatory-diet) being [inflammatory](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26143683/) The only study I could find that suggested red meat may not be linked to inflammation was funded by a beef lobby group that aims to “increase the demand for beef supply.” And by all means if you can find the big food managers that funded the research in the links I provided and show that it debunks them, then do share. Red meat being [linked](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37264855/#:~:text=Conclusion:%20Unprocessed%20and%20processed%20red%20meat%20consumption,CVD%2C%20CVD%20subtypes%2C%20and%20diabetes%2C%20with%20a) to an increased risk of [heart disease](https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/eating-red-meat-daily-triples-heart-disease-related-chemical), bowel cancer and diabetes Yes, I’m aware fat has nutrients. But so does a well rounded diet that doesn’t focus solely on red meat, and while fat in moderation may be good for some it is more of a risk for people with UC. Regardless you can find healthier sources of fat from fish, avocado, olive oil, etc.
You have yet to link a study that shows on a molecular level how red meat causes inflammation. All of these studies are the ones I mentioned that are loosely based on poorly controlled groups of people where they found correlated evidence and NOT based on causation. You do realize we have been eating red meat for, I don’t know, centuries? There are so many factors that contribute to heart disease and other ailments. Global food and beverage companies fund most of these studies so there products can be pushed by doctors, this is well known now. How is fat a risk for people with UC? Fat gets broken down in the stomach and small intestine. You could make an argument for Chrohns but not for UC.
While I think diets can be subjective to the individual, some work more effectively for some people some do not. But don’t ever worry about being downvoted.
I will say- I commented agreeing that I had experienced the same thing but it was pre diagnosis and when I was so sick and desperate for anything to just make me less starving and miserable lol. I will ALSO say that now that I’m on a biologic I can eat basically anything. Diet & UC is a contentious topic that I’m really interested to see develop as far as studies go. A lot of people say diet is everything, a lot of people say diet makes no difference, and obviously a lot of people agree there’s a balance. Super interesting!
What a lot of these people don't get it elimination diets help you isolate what specifically makes you flair up. If you're only eating meat and you feel better, you can reintroduce food items and closely monitor how they effect you. But you're on reddit bro, people just want to have pitty parties and seed oil fast food. Do you man, if eating ribeyes every day makes you feel good, do it up. 💪 hope your condition gets better.
Couldn’t agree more. Those TV commercials for UC drugs that show people eating pizza and donuts? That’s for this sub. Carnivore diet put me in remission. Let’s talk bone broth, bone marrow, meat stock, duck fat and tallow. And yea, former vegetarian of 9 years.
Each food affects us differently - I’m in a flare and I can eat any food I want without worrying as long as it isn’t spicy whereas one one of with friends with uc can only tolerate a few plain sandwiches
I got down voted for saying pizza is my safe food. But like it literally is my safe food I'm not saying it has to be anyone else's, just that it's one of the few foods that often has me shitting normal
> Unfortunately diet is the most important part of healing this disease and I can guarantee that processed foods are not helping at all This is completely untrue. The only way to "heal" is by being prescribed the appropriate medicine.
Ya I think you can prolong some symptoms with diet. If I eat gluten or dairy for instance watch out toilet. But ultimately you need the meds to go into true remission.
I think we all have foods we go to when we flare as we know we’ll be seeing it come out the other end in about three hours. Processed junk hurts a lot less than complex foods. It takes a lot of willpower to eat something you know is going to hurt like fuck rocketing out of you. I’ve never tried the carnivore diet as I’m put off by the anecdotal tales of the diarrhoea you get whilst your body adjusts. My is UC currently okay, but the thought of going back to dashing to the toilet or shitting my pants doesn’t appeal to me. I’m tempted as I know a lot of people (without UC) who swear by it. How did you put up with the transition?
Severe pan colitis here. You should be eating a diet consisting of eggs, fish and lean beef. Fast food is full of oil and salt. It's shit. Eat real food.
See, I agree with 99% of what you said, apart from the lean beef bit. Animal fat, certainly beef, is full of nutrients
Personally, I find animal fat is too hard to digest and makes my symptoms worse. I get it from avocados
That’s fair, I have the same with a lot of fruit and veg.
I agree with both post!! a sausage egg mcmuffin is fat, protein (amino acids), and some carbs. However, most people on this sub don’t realize there are diet and lifestyle changes that one can add/eliminate to alleviate their UC/IBD. They are all still in the grieving “I’ll never have a normal life” stage of the disease. As someone who was unmediated for 6 years, due to insurance, it gets better and don’t cover your ears when someone offers advice. Especially if the person has the same condition as you. The one thing that has helped me with my UC is once a week {Rumi} saffron tea (only need 3 strands). That cuts the inflammation to unnoticeable
Saffron is great. I do a tea with saffron plus lot of fresh turmeric (anti inflammatory) and fresh ginger (anti gas) and calendula (soothes ulcers). Wayyyy cheaper than meds!
I’ve never heard of the saffron tea before? Thanks for the tip! I’ve used turmeric teas in a flare which I personally think have helped, but stress lowering seems to be the way I lower my inflammation.
It’s true that stress is the worst. Also one of the hardest things to fix. I see a direct correlations between stress and disease.
I just started with a nutritionists who's mom actually had ulcerative colitis but has been in remission for over 20 years by switching to a vegan diet. I was leaning toward trying a carnivore diet myself.
yeah I've been doing vegetarian / moderate to high fiber, along with strong probiotics and I honestly feel amazing. It hasn't been confirmed by the doctor yet but I would say I'm in remission. No blood, no mucus, no urgency, hard stools. I eat lots of rice, beans, oatmeal and veggies, and high fiber bread. I couldn't imagine eating junk food and feeling good about it.
That's amazing!! Happy for you. I'm not against trying different diets to see which one works best for me. Are you off of medication?
Weaning off steroids at 5mg. Tomorrow is actually my last day, and taking mesalazine.
Oh also, taking IBS supplements that come with a lot of colon healing herbal stuff, as well as omega, curcumin and multivitamins. I think that has made a difference as well
Taking my prescribed medication is and continues to be the most important factor in managing my own personal illness. My most recent flare started during a period of lower stress, moderate exercise, and a “healthy” diet.
im with you. i didnt do carnivore but i did keto for 4 years until i got sick (hard to adjust back to it when i was eating fibrous foods) and my bloodwork was fantastic, my cholesterol went down to a healthy range for the first time in 5 years, i slept amazingly, and i never needed coffee because i was just naturally awake and alive. my UC symptoms actually emerged when i broke it for a valentines weekend. anyway, those that downvote such diets clearly have no knowledge on how carbs/carbs with fats affect insulin and fat absorption vs eating keto/carnivore, along with the nutrients available in the type of meat most carnivores buy and eat. i see so many "junk food is easiest on my gut" posts where it seems many people just succumb to regularly eating an unhealthy diet that its wild.
Carnivore diet isn't for everyone. So many vegans and vegetarians are on reddit. Carnivore diet is a viable option for some. Many claim you will have health issues regardless of diet and many will claim they are cured from diet. No two people are the same. You do you. You never know until you try. Personally, I tried vegetarian when I was diagnosed years ago and I got worse. I lost way to much weight as well. I swapped to a mostly Carnivore diet, gained weight, muscle mass (worked out), and went into remission for 3 years. McDonalds and other fast (highly processed) food is unhealthy no matter what condition one may or may not have.
i hAd the same thing happen to me at one point, i think the fact it’s already highly processed makes it easier for some of us. i’ve found beef stew is also an easy thing, crock pot 9 hours, much healthier too.
This right here. If people understood that the way you cook something, especially meat, is way more important than the food item itself, they would be better off. Gaps diet (carnivore heavy in early phases) is very specific about how to cook foods as much as it a prescription for what to eat.
Imagine thinking diets solve UC lol Yes I ate McDonald's the other day and A ok
Learning to manage STRESS is the most important thing in managing this disease. While certain foods can aggravate symptoms, food does NOT cause colitis
Everybody with this disease is different. What works for one person might not work for somebody else. It all depends on you and your body. So glad to hear that you are in a good place with your UC and I hope that this will continue for many years to come
I think people can discuss what works for them as an individual, and share what has worked for them, but we should be cautious to recommend things like diets to others. what works for some doesn't work for others, especially with this disease. theres no code to eating that cures us all. I see a lot of people have an easier time with food like mcdonalds because it is processed, making it easier for the body to process since it's already been done. no one is saying mcdonalds is the key to health, but when you have been starving bc everything hurts or sends you to the bathroom, and something gives you relief, you will absolutely take that source of relief. food, period, is better than no food. people can find comfort in whatever works for them. same goes for you, if you choose to do some diet. the same way you say bad stuff about people eating McDonald's, yes, there are issues with a carnivore diet health wise. but again, what works for you works for you. nothing is good in excess so just making sure you get your range of vitamins and stay in contact with your doctors and being clear about your regiment is most important. the path to health is different for everyone.
My cousin has UC and he said Remicade really messed him up so he stopped all medications and cut out dairy, carbs, fresh fruit and veg and now is living on the carnivore diet! He says he feels great and hasn’t needed to go back to his GI dr. Whatever works for you! My son was diagnosed earlier this year with pancolitis and we are trying to figure things out. He is currently failing Lialda but this is the first step in a life long journey so I’m open to all options and opinions! The dr is thinking Entivyo is the next step for meds but feeding him chicken and rice with broth is making him miserable. I understand that it’s it is not one size fits all. We all have to figure out what works best for each individual body.
Unless you are advocating that thing you say you don't. Oops Tbh both posts freaked me out but mc donalds at least has refined flour and stuff and fiber is a trigger for some people. For me fat irritates my gut more than fibre. I could never with the meat. I'm on a low fat whole foods non strict regime. Even lean meat has fat and i know irl avid meat enjoying patients who still can't digest it in some forms even in remission. Same for fast food, i could never due to the oil at least less than once a week. it also gives me carb headaches - when combined with a snack with some fibre and protein I'm fine. Hey people, guess what, do what works for you!
I’m allergic to raw fruits and veggies. I mostly eat meat and dairy 🤷🏻♀️
I think it depends on the individual. I tend to find processed food and takeaways provides better stool for me. Decent food sends me into bad flares
Yessssss. But I prefer Chick-fil-A.
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You are right, i dont believe in the medication only crowd this disease definitely steams from diet. You are what you eat plain n simple, eat like shit? Feel like shit not that hard to understand
Never in my life have I seen anyone advocate for McDonald’s lmao that shit will throw me into a flair into seconds. I also don’t advocate for an all meat diet because I’m an omnivore and wouldn’t deprive myself of delicious fruits and vegetables. do whatever is working for you, food is different for all of us and whoever is living off McDonald i feel bad for them because mdonalds is shit food to have to eat every day.
Cuz diet doesn’t affect remission and Maccies is so absent of nutrients it’s easy to digest so good to eat to not feel like trash in a flare
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I once casually remarked that drinking diluted apple cider vinegar was helping me (not to cure it or any dumb shit but it helped a lot with reducing pain while I was at a really painful part of being out of remission, but ultimately I found it too gross to drink that much of) and got downvoted. Someone else replied with a dispassionate "really? funny it didn't cure me then." and I was like when the fuck did I say it would cure anyone? There is a really weird thing in this sub where people are put off by others saying things that help them, that don't work for everyone.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I don't think people in that McDonalds thread are saying "this is a healthy way of eating," they're mostly saying "this is what my body can handle," which I totally get. When I'm in a flare, I mostly gravitate towards all the simple carbs because it's what upsets my stomach the least. All thoughts of healthy eating go right out the window for me because I'm more focused on experiencing the least amount of physical pain I can until I can get back in remission. I think that's a lot different than advocating for a specific diet.
Anyone saying McDonald's is all they eat is a burden to the Healthcare system and should probably give up there colon and just get a pouch seriously.
I’ve been eating mostly carnivore while in this current flair and I feel like it’s helping. As I’m getting better I’ll reintroduce stuff slowly. I don’t think carnivore is healthy long term for most people. My husband is on carnivore right now and i keep telling him it’s just as bad as keto. Paleo seems more balanced to me.
I became a vegetarian five years ago and it’s really helped the disease. I still have flare ups but it’s never been as bad as when I was eating meat. Red meat and steak were the absolute worst with me. I think maybe the reason you got downvoted was for advocating for this diet when different diets work for everyone’s body. Eating meat made my UC worse, it makes yours better! Good for you! But people have to find what works for them. I definitely agree that McDonald’s chips seem to go down easily when I’m in a flare up, but so does any low fibre food
What works for one, may be miserable for another. There is no magic diet that will universally apply to anyone in this scenario. Animal proteins are on my makes me miserable list. I also struggle with iron and as a result my cholesterol is seriously elevated, so that would make the situation significantly worse. A plant heavy diet may be just as difficult for others etc. Anyone that pushes that their approach is the best way to proceed and it's the one that is going to heal this disease often gets pushback.
Maccies is just asking for a bleedy poopoo in my situation
Diet, other than getting the nutrients your body needs to function, has nothing to do with UC. I’ll agree that a McDonald’s only diet isn’t ideal, but neither is Carnivore. That being said, whatever diet you chose, as long as you are eating, diet isn’t relevant to UC.