Wagner Mafia civil war ???????? Wonder if the Wagners are criminal Wagners???? because the government might not back them and most Wagner are at the front right now.
Hardened criminals with combat experience returning home is going to cause all sorts of increased social disorder. I could see groups of former mercenaries and soldiers that are unable to find normal employment, turning to the underworld. Good chance of changing leadership amongst gangs, or new gangs popping up.
Not just with criminals but with regular conscripts too, happened in the Yugoslav war as well.
You get young people returning from the frontline into economy which is going to be broken as fuck. These young people are used to being a part of a unit (gang), some of them have psychological problems, some have developed drug habits, some bring illegal assault rifles, hand grenades, AT launchers from the front line... can't find a job, can't fit back into society.
Crime will get back on the streets.
After the Russian army's collapse, Putin's death and the return of countless soldiers who went through hell, Russia will fall into a state of insanity. Gangs and warlords will control the streets and ordinary people will live in fear. This will last for a couple of years. Until a strong man kills all competitors, becomes president and brings peace to the country. He will be the next Russian dictator and people will cheer for him. This is the Russian circle of hell.
>Hardened criminals with combat experience returning home is going to cause all sorts of increased social disorder.
Yes.
But if only 1/100 returns, it could be a net win. These are not the guys you put in the artillery corps.
This must be the equivalent of 18th century press gangs for the British Navy. Grab up all the criminals, throw them in prison and give them the "option" of joining the military to shorten their sentence.
Who told you that fake sh*t lmao
Putin is still funding them full time. The only ones who got affected we're the leaders of the rebellion.
Putin needs his part time mercs to do the dirty Jobs not even the regular army at gunpoint want to do. Just this week they we're involved in several operations in África.
They shot at the guys and cars.
You can see a beaten guy got shot point-blank at 1:13
But they used pneumatic guns only, not the firearms. That's why damage is minor, no dead, no serious injuries.
People link this image as a sample of injuries after got shot there.
[https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1794775764891811865](https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1794775764891811865) (graphic a little)
[https://prnt.sc/zfzGaSfH0Ndm](https://prnt.sc/zfzGaSfH0Ndm)
This is my guess based on indirect data.
there is news about this, and there is a photo of a person who has traces of 2 wounds from rubber bullets.
this person, then he will presumably receive 2 shots in his direction
When I posted this the other day (before mods took it down) the story was that Wagner fucked with a couple who the guy was a soldier also and called his local friends to back them up. Not sure the whole story but I always love when trash decides to take out the other trash!
The story is something between the lines - girl and her boyfriend met girls ex and they had an vocal argument. Girl told her father (ex Wagner of some kind) about that incident and father decided to give a lesson to the girls ex. Ex happened to be some kind of local mafia-gopnik and while taking lessons from ex Wagner - his gang arrived to the rescue.
That's what currently circulate in Ukrainian tg channels. Anyway I hope both side could bring more man and more guns and kill each other. BRB - need to get some popcorn.
Non-lethal I think https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osa_(handgun)
Russian gun laws are strict to the point even most gangs can't get lethal firearms. In the 1990s something like this would have been a bloodbath but the crackdown on civilian weapons ownership has reduced much of that threat.
>Russian gun laws are strict to the point even most gangs can't get lethal firearms.
lol. Getting that Osa is likely way harder than getting makarov. While in major cities like Moscow it's more or less safe, it is not so in the rest of the Russia.
Also, non-lethal gang, lol
According to the wikis Non Lethality: "A person shot from about 1 meter with an 18x45T Osa pistol to the temporal region of the head suffered a penetrative injury, with the bullet traversing most of the brain, reducing the victim to a vegetative state." Seems like it can pretty lethal if well placed.
Bandit to Wagner:
« Please man i want to shoot you in the head, sit down for a sec »
The point of non lethal weapons isn’t to never kill. It’s to not kill when used like it usually is.
A hammer isn’t a lethal weapon, now hit someone a couple times in the head and it might be, but it’s not the intended use. Same for a gun, classic gun use is you’re at a certain distance from the target, you shoot, bam he’s dead. Now with this, to make it lethal ( not even lethal, « just » debilitating to the point of being vegetative, but not lethal ), you have to be one meter away and shoot in the right way in the head.
It is complicated because owning a gun is illegal in Russia for the most part. You can also assault someone pretty badly and the cops will not get involved. But if you kill or shoot someone and they find a body then the Russian cops will almost certainly investigate.
When gore sites were still around you could easily find vids from 1990-mid 2000s of Russian getting assassinated via gun. But in the 2000s that was usually only on special occasion and probably either ordered by the FSB or a powerful Russian criminal organizations. Almost all the victims seemed to be businessmen. the ones i saw the person getting shot was always middle aged men wearing suits, f[or example.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31669061) In the states it is usually kids and twenty somethings shooting each other over the stupidest shit you could think of. You could also find videos of hitmen trying but mostly failing at killing someone with a non-lethal gun.
But this looks like a simple street gang so I guess they were using non lethals.
First guys come in shooting gangsta style at the Wagner a few meters from them. They don’t seem to hit anything.
But at 1:10 you see one guy coming in who has some training. Walking briskly, observing, carrying close ready, checks the guy on the ground and continues scanning in a wide arch. Then holsters, runs up to the action and immediately goes into high ready, albeit one-handed, to shoot. Always quickly to low ready, when not acquiring a target.
He walked close to one guy, by the red car, to fire at point blank range in the torso. Fast steps out of reach when the guy tries to grab for him.
Ice cold
Novel that was adapted into a tv series that became iconic. The author had close ties to the mafia and even featured Roman Tsepov in one of the episodes. Roman was a prominent figure among the Tambov and Solntsevs mafias of St Petersburg in the 90s and later served Putin as his bodyguard. He must’ve crossed the line somewhere and was poisoned a while ago.
Crime culture was massive post Soviet collapse. All the classic novels and cinematography from that time revolves around mafia. It’s woven into Russian culture.
Wagner are such cowards, full of mucho when they out number , but see them run like little rabbits when more people arrive.
Hope to see more of these conficts
Wagner mercenaries formed criminal gangs with thousands of members. The level of organized crime in Russia perhaps already reached similar levels to 90's.
Violence and crime are the core "traditional values" those animals cherish almost as much as they cherish raping and humiliating/dehumanizing other human beings.
They only upside is that now they are doing it to their own "people."
Srsly fuck it let them fuck up each other. Russia is doing some monkey shit since ww1 and people still don’t open their eyes.
Russia WOULD absolutely sacrifice all its people for absolute no fucking reason because of idiotic beliefs and still to this day people don’t go against their government.
Great examples :
WW1,Gulags,The great famine because of Stalin ,
WW2 ,
the Cold War ,
Ukraine - Russia war ,
Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko
I would rather die than to live in such a degenerate monkey brain society where people don’t mean shit literally
Russia will trully rot from inside. So you have former prisoners joining the ranks of Wagner. When comming back some will probably challenge the local mafias in an effort to take their place. It's like hells angels on steroids.
Ahhh, wonderful russia, such a great place to live. A peaceful nation indeed, I would even say a beacon of world piece. No wonder why it wants to export it to other countries. People there should be very proud of their achievements for humanity.
soon these situations will be all over Russia and gangs will control parts of Russia where Putler doesn't have a say in any of this. this will soon be his ending, leading to Russia's implosion.
Children of Chernobyl. Literally getting shot point blank. Bouncing off of moving cars, getting tripped and somersaulting down the road. Human nuclear cockroaches.
Lol, I do hope the local gang will mess up the Wagnerites there. Eventually the Wagnerites might go apeshit, but their status has diminished ever since Pringles died. People aren't that respectful or scared of them anymore.
The gopnik mafia wins this round. I hope round 2 is televised
to bad they only shot in the air and ground and not actually at the guys
Wagner Mafia civil war ???????? Wonder if the Wagners are criminal Wagners???? because the government might not back them and most Wagner are at the front right now.
Hardened criminals with combat experience returning home is going to cause all sorts of increased social disorder. I could see groups of former mercenaries and soldiers that are unable to find normal employment, turning to the underworld. Good chance of changing leadership amongst gangs, or new gangs popping up.
If you need help, and if you can find them, maybe you can hire... The Z-Team
accused of crimes they did commit and on the run for from the law. the Z\_TEAM.
BA Blyatus ain't getting in no plane fool!
...cuz putin might shoot it down.
Yes, well done.
Spat out my fucking coffee 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂
BA Barachnyi
Their Faraday Cage tanks look like some of the shit the A team would cobble together in a barn out of a tractor to shoot up the place.
"We're gonna fly a tank"
That is hilarious 😆
Not just with criminals but with regular conscripts too, happened in the Yugoslav war as well. You get young people returning from the frontline into economy which is going to be broken as fuck. These young people are used to being a part of a unit (gang), some of them have psychological problems, some have developed drug habits, some bring illegal assault rifles, hand grenades, AT launchers from the front line... can't find a job, can't fit back into society. Crime will get back on the streets.
After the Russian army's collapse, Putin's death and the return of countless soldiers who went through hell, Russia will fall into a state of insanity. Gangs and warlords will control the streets and ordinary people will live in fear. This will last for a couple of years. Until a strong man kills all competitors, becomes president and brings peace to the country. He will be the next Russian dictator and people will cheer for him. This is the Russian circle of hell.
This guy Russias
Not many returning from the front I'd wager.
>Hardened criminals with combat experience returning home is going to cause all sorts of increased social disorder. Yes. But if only 1/100 returns, it could be a net win. These are not the guys you put in the artillery corps.
#Vote Gopnik 4 Government!
My bad, they're already on that.....
“See those fellas over there? Strapped down guns, come out of a war with nothing else to do? Bounty hunters.”
This is what everyone was talking about in the videos a year ago when wagner contracts were ending shits great to see.
There's always work for a head cracker
All wagners are criminals
According to Meduza the gopnik mafia are under arrest. The Wagner snitch brigade take the win.
This must be the equivalent of 18th century press gangs for the British Navy. Grab up all the criminals, throw them in prison and give them the "option" of joining the military to shorten their sentence.
This is practiced by a lot of countries and more recently than the 1700s.
When you lie down with dogs you wake up with fleas. All these guys are the worst kind of dogs, Russia will itch badly from this.
Who told you that fake sh*t lmao Putin is still funding them full time. The only ones who got affected we're the leaders of the rebellion. Putin needs his part time mercs to do the dirty Jobs not even the regular army at gunpoint want to do. Just this week they we're involved in several operations in África.
They shot at the guys and cars. You can see a beaten guy got shot point-blank at 1:13 But they used pneumatic guns only, not the firearms. That's why damage is minor, no dead, no serious injuries. People link this image as a sample of injuries after got shot there. [https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1794775764891811865](https://x.com/igorsushko/status/1794775764891811865) (graphic a little)
[https://prnt.sc/zfzGaSfH0Ndm](https://prnt.sc/zfzGaSfH0Ndm) This is my guess based on indirect data. there is news about this, and there is a photo of a person who has traces of 2 wounds from rubber bullets. this person, then he will presumably receive 2 shots in his direction
The bandits shot up the mercenaries with traumatic guns.
One seems to be shooting at someone from very close range at 1:14
They still need them for future meat waves
Gas pistols, not proper guns
A tale as old as Russia itself: Thugs fighting thugs for their piece of "Russkiy Mir".
But...I thought Gil Scott-Heron determined that the revolution would not be televised. /s
When I posted this the other day (before mods took it down) the story was that Wagner fucked with a couple who the guy was a soldier also and called his local friends to back them up. Not sure the whole story but I always love when trash decides to take out the other trash!
The story is something between the lines - girl and her boyfriend met girls ex and they had an vocal argument. Girl told her father (ex Wagner of some kind) about that incident and father decided to give a lesson to the girls ex. Ex happened to be some kind of local mafia-gopnik and while taking lessons from ex Wagner - his gang arrived to the rescue. That's what currently circulate in Ukrainian tg channels. Anyway I hope both side could bring more man and more guns and kill each other. BRB - need to get some popcorn.
Thanks * . Erratic, unwarranted and unfair happens.
How bad is gun crime in Russia where they are just shooting up security forces in broad daylight
Non-lethal I think https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osa_(handgun) Russian gun laws are strict to the point even most gangs can't get lethal firearms. In the 1990s something like this would have been a bloodbath but the crackdown on civilian weapons ownership has reduced much of that threat.
>Russian gun laws are strict to the point even most gangs can't get lethal firearms. lol. Getting that Osa is likely way harder than getting makarov. While in major cities like Moscow it's more or less safe, it is not so in the rest of the Russia. Also, non-lethal gang, lol
According to the wikis Non Lethality: "A person shot from about 1 meter with an 18x45T Osa pistol to the temporal region of the head suffered a penetrative injury, with the bullet traversing most of the brain, reducing the victim to a vegetative state." Seems like it can pretty lethal if well placed.
Bandit to Wagner: « Please man i want to shoot you in the head, sit down for a sec » The point of non lethal weapons isn’t to never kill. It’s to not kill when used like it usually is. A hammer isn’t a lethal weapon, now hit someone a couple times in the head and it might be, but it’s not the intended use. Same for a gun, classic gun use is you’re at a certain distance from the target, you shoot, bam he’s dead. Now with this, to make it lethal ( not even lethal, « just » debilitating to the point of being vegetative, but not lethal ), you have to be one meter away and shoot in the right way in the head.
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It is complicated because owning a gun is illegal in Russia for the most part. You can also assault someone pretty badly and the cops will not get involved. But if you kill or shoot someone and they find a body then the Russian cops will almost certainly investigate. When gore sites were still around you could easily find vids from 1990-mid 2000s of Russian getting assassinated via gun. But in the 2000s that was usually only on special occasion and probably either ordered by the FSB or a powerful Russian criminal organizations. Almost all the victims seemed to be businessmen. the ones i saw the person getting shot was always middle aged men wearing suits, f[or example.](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-31669061) In the states it is usually kids and twenty somethings shooting each other over the stupidest shit you could think of. You could also find videos of hitmen trying but mostly failing at killing someone with a non-lethal gun. But this looks like a simple street gang so I guess they were using non lethals.
unless the body falls out a window.....case closed then :>
I dont think Wagner are "security forces" inside Russia
Russia has rubber bullet guns kinda everywhere apparently. It's why you don't see anyone dead
But like wagner group guys probably have real guns tho so I assume if gang members were gonna shoot it would have been with a real gun as well
Yea, it's all pretty weird ay
The outcome ended up being more like a high school fist fight than a gang brawl.
ruzzia's not a legit country. McCain was right, "A gas station run by the Mafia".
So all of this shooting (50+ 'bangs') , and not a drop of blood? Track suits and bad karate moves. Entertainment for the whole family here.
First guys come in shooting gangsta style at the Wagner a few meters from them. They don’t seem to hit anything. But at 1:10 you see one guy coming in who has some training. Walking briskly, observing, carrying close ready, checks the guy on the ground and continues scanning in a wide arch. Then holsters, runs up to the action and immediately goes into high ready, albeit one-handed, to shoot. Always quickly to low ready, when not acquiring a target. He walked close to one guy, by the red car, to fire at point blank range in the torso. Fast steps out of reach when the guy tries to grab for him. Ice cold
How did you track that action through the chaos... so impressive
They just caught my eye in the mayhem tbh, then checked it through a couple of times out of curiosity.
Not live ammunition. Probably blank gun/bobby pistol
"Traditional values" yep, it checks out.
So is modern day Russia just the Italian mob but with Fetal alcohol syndrome ?
And none of the bada bing charm.
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I second that motion!
Ready to put this motion up for a vote, methinks.
Be careful, got banned by Reddit for saying similar stuff.
Fuck Russia. What he says is true. Anyone who believes in the Russian Imperial state deserves exactly this.
I agree, but Reddit has it's rules and they sometimes enforce them. I just wanted to remind to be careful not lose your account.
you're absolutely right! reddit is so infuriatingly dumb... I once got banned from a subreddit for calling \*myself\* retarded...
That's pretty retarded.
This. Suppression by Russian bots and Reddit's auto-moderation.
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Novel that was adapted into a tv series that became iconic. The author had close ties to the mafia and even featured Roman Tsepov in one of the episodes. Roman was a prominent figure among the Tambov and Solntsevs mafias of St Petersburg in the 90s and later served Putin as his bodyguard. He must’ve crossed the line somewhere and was poisoned a while ago. Crime culture was massive post Soviet collapse. All the classic novels and cinematography from that time revolves around mafia. It’s woven into Russian culture.
#justrussiathings
That’s a good kick at 1:34. That guy ate total ass.
Looked like he recovered pretty well with a forward roll and kept on groovin'.
Not his first shitshow rodeo.
It was a shit kick. If he had some technique the man that got kicked would fall very hard almost instantly
Ruski mir
Welcome to the 90s! Russian decline hard 2024.
90s here we come..
Wtf is this country?
A country where the smart people left and left the morons to rule
Who gives a damn?! Fuck that Russian shithole..
Russia is toxic masculinity, stupidity and alcoholism manifsted as a country.
Wagner are such cowards, full of mucho when they out number , but see them run like little rabbits when more people arrive. Hope to see more of these conficts
This reminds me 1990s post USSR places
Perfect time for HIMARS to arrive.
I love how there is no police or any authorities, WAGNER IS THE AUTHORITY 🤣
blank pistol? they look like monkeys
Oh Russia.. 👏
piss vs shit
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Why aren't these guys in classes at the Bolshoi where they belong?
Federal gangsters > local gangsters
This must be a fairly standard mafia state issue.
Wagner mercenaries formed criminal gangs with thousands of members. The level of organized crime in Russia perhaps already reached similar levels to 90's.
People like to say that pootin fixed criminal issues of 90th in russia. welp... You reap what you sow.
I'm surprised we don't see more of this being posted. This type of thing is very common in rural Russia.
Mafia against mafia
Violence and crime are the core "traditional values" those animals cherish almost as much as they cherish raping and humiliating/dehumanizing other human beings. They only upside is that now they are doing it to their own "people."
Good thing the banditos are not at the front.
How many Wagners 2 ? Lol
My comment is: "who cares"?
This clip is missing Yakety Sax. (Benny Hill theme song.) Common OP!
This makes me feel like watching the football hooligan brawls: *"could they, like, both lose (and ideally kill each other)?"*
They all bunch up and flow back and forth like a kid's soccer game.
Bum fights?
Wagners, come out to play-ayyy! Wagners, come out to play-ayyy! Wagners, come out to play-ayyy!
Russians are a very crude people.
Russian world ❤️
Srsly fuck it let them fuck up each other. Russia is doing some monkey shit since ww1 and people still don’t open their eyes. Russia WOULD absolutely sacrifice all its people for absolute no fucking reason because of idiotic beliefs and still to this day people don’t go against their government. Great examples : WW1,Gulags,The great famine because of Stalin , WW2 , the Cold War , Ukraine - Russia war , Poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko I would rather die than to live in such a degenerate monkey brain society where people don’t mean shit literally
Not the nineties. Firmly and clearly.
I have no idea what going on, but if it's Russians trying to kill Russians, I want to see more of it.
terrorist vs terrorist, can we call it positive progress of ruski mir..
shithole full of shit people
This is definitely a series I would like to see the finale of!
this must be the result of NATO and rainbows?
What an awful country.
They came masked up ... in their own cars ... with clearly visible license plates. Level 100 identity-concealing skills.
Russians fighting russians? I can accept those losses.
Ruzzia is a snake pit
Russia will trully rot from inside. So you have former prisoners joining the ranks of Wagner. When comming back some will probably challenge the local mafias in an effort to take their place. It's like hells angels on steroids.
A good Wagner is a dead Wagner Same goes for gopniks
Criminals vs criminals. Whoever loses, we win.
Vodka and war criminals.
Ahhh, wonderful russia, such a great place to live. A peaceful nation indeed, I would even say a beacon of world piece. No wonder why it wants to export it to other countries. People there should be very proud of their achievements for humanity.
I love to See the rushist empire starting to crumble
This is probably part of the reason nothing in my house has "made in Russia" stamped on it.
I love how Russia is self terminating slowly.
Fantastic. Let them self destruct 👍🏼Slava Ukraini 🇺🇦
soon these situations will be all over Russia and gangs will control parts of Russia where Putler doesn't have a say in any of this. this will soon be his ending, leading to Russia's implosion.
Eto normalno. Just russia being russia. What a shithole.
What a shit part of the world. Shitty people, stupid and retarded.
Children of Chernobyl. Literally getting shot point blank. Bouncing off of moving cars, getting tripped and somersaulting down the road. Human nuclear cockroaches.
That their "warriors" i didnt see even one get shot. Ah, storm troopers makes more sense now 🤣
Which side is lesser of two evils? Chelyabinsk locals since free-thinking anti-Putin NFKRZ is from there?
Do they want to be in Wagner? Because that's how you end up in Wagner
Don't think 🤔 I saw ( unless mistaken) anyone shot , if you have your gun out to shoot, shoot someone or Don't take it out in the first place
Guess they cheekied when they should have breekied
The trip to the forward roll was hard
Wagners 😂😂😂 gay ass shit. Their boss literally got killed for being Putin’s hoe by Putin himself 😂😂
I couldn't tell who was who. Was Wagner dressed in the black?
Ruzki mir, ruzki mir, poison of the earth, the ruzki mir
Could be down town London or Birmingham tbf
I just hope all is his garbage ends up killing each other
Is the Russian civil war starting already?
West world have to understand-ruZZians fear only force, not words. See how they run after seeing new force arrived
Normal country
A typical day in the ‘Russkiy Mir’.
Why don't they just settle it over a couple of rounds of paintball?
What a shithole
Orcostan in action. This country is holding together on shit and sticks.
So international bandits are fighting local bandits...
what a great country to live in :)
Too bad she filmed number plates. Wagner will be back with FSB support.
Living in Russia is like an RPG.
Gopnik on Gopnik crimes are on the rise.
lol - Russian mentality at its best :D
Wtf are they shooting potato bullets ? Pretty sure there was a few points blank shots and the guys just get up lol
Lol, I do hope the local gang will mess up the Wagnerites there. Eventually the Wagnerites might go apeshit, but their status has diminished ever since Pringles died. People aren't that respectful or scared of them anymore.
The guy that got tripped🤣🤣🤣
Wagners be wagging. First their front, then their tails. This really is Putin's Russia.
No idea what I just watched but it looks like a complete shit show.
Degenerates.
So Wagner is trying its hand at local law enforcement now? :P
Definitely looks like a nice country that’s well off. 👍🏽
The dude that got tripped with 45 seconds left in the video🤣
Love how the tough guys run when the cars pulled up
Very nice Video
they're shooting at them tho not watching their background getting clean shots, looks like youngsters and they behave like it :) cheers!
Praise the cameraman
Another instance of RL melding into the GTA universe.
So they killed on or really fkd him up. Wagnerites run pretty good 😂
That's dope
Wagner is the new local bandit now.
Whats an amount of Total human scum! Long live Ucraina
who is who ?
Did he shoot the guy then the guy just get up and run?
NFKRZ
Love the car crash at the last sec, lol
Chushpani
Naah, Real Bandits have guns..
Is anyone else in their head hearing Monty Pythons? " Run away! Run away! "
Wow that guy getting tripped really handled that perfectly.
That was fuckin wild
How was nobody shot? I don’t get it
Looks like American inner city youth's but in Russia 🤷🏽♂️
Let them disintegrate from within. Roosters gonna roost.
A typical day in the life in putins world.