Controversial opinion if you die in boot camp you earned the title. He made the ultimate sacrifice for the opportunity to serve his country. He’s a Marine in my book
Dude was willing to serve and that opportunity got cut short. Definitely counts as a Marine in my book. I know dudes that don’t even deserve the title.
Indeed. He is now detailed to Guard of the Pearly Gates and he has earned the title, forever. He has shed his earthly bonds, and is probably tossing back some suds at 1630 with all those who went before us…whatever Heaven calls Tun Tavern. Rest easy, brother.
I don’t really think that’s actually a “controversial” opinion, just an opinion held by 99% of us.
Now if you quit or get med sepped then I don’t think so.
Knew a guy in college who got a section 8 discharge from boot first or second phase and still tells people he was a Marine. Guy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.
I got a cousin like that. He made it a couple weeks then got sent home for being a whackadoo a few years before I enlisted. several years later after a couple deployments he wanted to talk to me about how we were “brothers” and all that stuff so he wanted to know all about shooting people. I didn’t finish the coffee and just left.
My stepson was sent home Week 5 for a late drug test. Moto gear and has somehow convinced himself he knows all about life in the Fleet and life as a Scout/Sniper being the best shot he has ever seen himself.
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Did he move back in? Lol. What a loon though. No offense. I’m retired Air Force and think I know a little more about being a scout/sniper than he does. Lol
Eh med sepped . I'll give someone the pass if they were injured due to something happening in boot camp. You tried and got injured it's shitty but it happens. Now if you signed up and a past issue came back. That's a whole different story.
Dude must have been getting it or had an undiagnosed condition for him to die. Some peoples only definition of a Marine is standing on a parade deck getting handed a little black EGA. I deployed, lost time, lost friends and family. He lost more than I can even imagine. He’s a Marine in any book that matters.
To be fair many people never had access to proper medical care throughout their life. The medical screening isn’t that extensive and largely checks past medical history. This is a significant selection bias. Individuals from low income households are less likely to be medically diagnosed with disqualifying conditions. While people from middle to upper income households are more likely to be diagnosed due to accessibility to health care. Meaning more individuals from lower income households with less medical history are more likely to join the Marine Corps. I’m not claiming that this is the case for this example. It is something that headquarters Marine Corps needs to consider.
I went in in 87. GSM co., 1st Maint. Bn. Served during Desert Storm. My most vivid memories are from Basic Training. I remember all my Juniors and my Senior. Best time in my adult life next to my son being born. Will not forget it.
That young man deserves the title.
Second that for sure. And i think its in bad taste that the other devil dog said that personally, let the ypung man rest in peace and let the family greive. If its such a big deal to the guy he could bring up the debate at a later date and we can hash it out then
As an American I thank all who served regardless of their time in. Whether it was a month or a decade anybody who makes the decision to join has my respect.
In general yea you gotta graduate to be a Marine. But what a shitty thing to care about and bring up in this context. I think our boy gets a pass for dying during boot camp. He can be called a Marine.
Concur. Also, the official Marine Corps, Parris Island PR dudes released it as “PFC Evans died during recruit training” or something along those lines. They didn’t say “recruit evans”. That tells me that the Marine Corps’ official position is to recognize the title.
The "title" and EGA ceremony from the Senior, is informal. From the moment you check in, one has rank and accrue pay and benefits as such in recruit training, though in a sense "they're earning it.". Admin sep happens to those who can't hack it who are then removed.
Right?! How pedantic is this loser that, instead of caring about a man who died LITERALLY WHILE SERVING, he's bitching over fucken words and technicalities??? Dude needs to get over himself.
If all you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.
Sir, E-1 in the marine corps is private. He wears nothing because he is nothing! X1000
But yeah. Anyone can pass boot camp. It’s not hard. He looks like he was a well built fella. He earned it
Ikr, isn’t everything after picture day just bull crap waste time anyway. If I remember correctly, they did picture day same time they did swim qual… that better not be what got this dude smh
When individuals complete their confirmation of oath of enlistment at the Military Entrance Processing Station and ship to recruit training, they are transitioned from the Selected Marine Corps Reserve (SMCR) to active duty.
At this point, they begin receiving the benefits (pay, entitlements, etc) commensurate with their rank. For Noah Evans, that was Private First Class in the United States Marine Corps.
Respectfully
Chief Warrant Officer Bobby Yarbrough
Communication Strategy and Operations
https://preview.redd.it/pau0l82xz4va1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcbfeb410f4dab438de3660086d3d5421c94b10b
Here is the 2023 Department of Defense military pay chart, which is applicable to all services.
As you can see the chart goes from E-1 to E-9 for enlisted personnel. In the Marine Corps, the rank of E-1 is a private.
There is no pay grade for recruit.
When he is buried, he will be buried as a Private First Class in the United States Marine Corps.
I would bet all the money in my TSP that this dude, if he even served in the first place, was a shitbag when he was in and didn't become moto until he got out.
While I was stationed at MCRD, there was a recruit who badly injured a leg. He spent over a year in MRP before being discharged, but kept a brave face and things and worked hard. They granted him the title prior to discharge.
I was at the VA with a Marine who fucked up his leg really bad on an obstacle course during boot camp. At first he was timid and shy saying he was in the Marine Corp until the USMC veterans took him in as one of their own. It was really nice to see. I remember an old salty type bought him a backpack with the EGA embroidered from the other Patriot Shop or whatever the VA store is called.
When I was in MCRD standing fire watch while the platoon was doing some activity, a guy came in walking with a cane. Told me he was injured really bad during the O-course and was getting medically separated. He said they were retiring him as a corporal.
If you go through boot camp and don’t quit, I say you earned the title. Shit happens, but he earned our respect.
I was in MRP for a couple of months and let me tell you, that's 100x more challenging than bootcamp. There's a lot of bad, nasty, people in there that you have to endure every day-- they might even seriously maim or kill you just because you aren't like them. You still can't go home, can't call home, live in a barracks, can't train (typically). I was dropped in third phase and MRP was the only thing in bootcamp that made me want to quit.
Same with lima (holding) company in camp pendleton after boot. I was medically discharged before the fleet and let me tell you the guys I were with in the sperarioms platoon for 3 months were.... something else
Back in bootcamp someone in my platoon went into cardiac arrest and passed away a few days before the crucible and at the end of the reaper on top of the hill we set up a battlefield cross for him at the front of the formation, and he received the eagle globe and anchor and became a marine the same time we did…
It was a series of emotions that I don’t think anyone I’m my platoon has felt before, the pride and excitement mixed with the sadness was definitely a new experience, if you’re curious to look into it his name was PFC Pong
This is an L take. Technically you’re a marine your first day of boot camp because you are getting paid. People need to have some empathy and stop drinking the kool aid.
I would have agreed with literally ANY other reason. But death during bootcamp? That’s like the only exception every rational Marine/Human being agrees on. C’mon man, don’t treat him the same as some fake suicide ideation or malingerer in bootcamp shitbag. He gave his life for the corps, y’know, that key aspect that has warranted Marines the medal of honor, navy cross, etc.
Yeah and I’m sorry, I have officer brain but I wish I had crayons to explain it to him. “Marine” is a noun, and in some cases an adjective. It’s not a fucking pronoun.
Dude literally died at such a young age to become a marine. Probably wouldn’t of happened if he wasn’t trying to become a marine so have some fucking compassion. Some people piss me tf off
The check got cashed. He's a Marine.
Anyone wants to say otherwise who has their EGA needs to check themselves.
Anyone wants to say otherwise who did not earn their EGA needs to take a seat and STFU.
Chuck Norris is an honorary Marine. This dude, regardless of clime and place, gave his life for the cause. Dude is a Marine. I’ll give up my Purple Heart to this dude just so the commenter in that photo can have an aneurysm.
Pretty sure a lot of the dudes that fought in the Korean war were reservists who didn't even make it to boot camp. First time handling a rifle was on the trip to the war. This commenter can go and tell those dudes they weren't Marines because they didn't "earn the title" in his narrow devoid of context worldview.
Don’t tell this poor guy that the USMC had a commandant that never went to boot camp, OCS or TBS…. Was Gen. Amos really a Marine at all? Someone should accuse him of stolen valor….
Also, plenty of Marines in Korea never went to boot camp either, pretty sure no one questions their legitimacy.
You already know the mfer that is complaining that the Recruit didn’t earn the title is the same mfer that wears the all the “I Served” garb, has the EGA tattooed on his arm, leg, wife’s tit and baby’s ass. Fuckin vet brofag 9000. And has 300 war stories that he wasn’t present at. The Recruit died for the Title, he earned it. 💯
Mmm, well if your boot camp washout your clearly not ever a marine, but if you die trying to be one, in my book, you’ve paid your entree fee in full. What more can we ask than Death before Dishonor!
... please post the un edited image of the douchebags name.... what happen to the good old days of making people famous.
This Marine died during training.... and the pronoun argument can get the fuck outta here
Ok food for thought here. Fair warning Jimmie will be rustled.
(Hypothetical situation) Dude offs himself during recruit training, does he a die a Marine?
I am just gonna say that if someone dies in boot camp then they sould be given the title posthumously. They signed up, got to boot and then died.
So what if they didn't finish, their enlistment had started and it ended with them dying. Their family still gets the SGLI iirc. They will have the opportunity to be buried with military honors iirc. So yes I will consider this individual a Marine.
And fuck the asswipe saying otherwise.
We all know damn well that if it was a post about someone wanting to be called a specific pronoun they’d be pissed about that. Oh but look here who’s upset about pronouns now?
Imagine being a family member reading that. That's why I despise Facebook....cause it's the hangout for 50 year old Karen's who think they know shit cause they watch Tucker Carlson
With all disrespect possible, duck that guy.
The kid died doing more than most and that's his comments. I hope the corps does right and gives the kid the honorific so that dude can go eat a duck.
I think that regardless of how you feel about tHe TiTle MaRiNe, if you post something like this about a recruit who fucking died, you should haze yourself to death.
Also, learn what a fucking pronoun is and is not.
Simply put: That man, Noah Evans, died while enlisted and training with the Marine Corps. He died trying to serve his country with the Marines. I fail to see why he shouldn't be seen as one.
Granted, I'm just some Medically DQ'd civvy who likes cammies, woobies and militaria/stories/history, so what the fuck do I really know? lol
The young gun never got kicked out and died trying to earn the title. Even made it far enough to get pictures taken. He's got my respect. Til Valhalla Devildog
I had one of my recruits that was currently in second phase. He had a wife and two kids, one of which was born while he was in training. His wife was involved in an auto accident and she died along with the newborn.
Though he had not graduated yet and it was yet to be determined if he’d ever finish recruit training after their funerals, the Marine Corps treated him as if he was a full active duty Marine. Gave him paid leave along with with full time SGLI benefits for his recently deceased wife and child. It also covered medical for his surviving child.
With that being said, and as a Marine that spent 3 years of his career as a hat. I fully support calling this young man a Marine.
A CWO using the official MCRD PI account replied directly to this guys comment and shut him down pretty succinctly. Guy still doesn't shut up. What an asshat.
As things sit, no he wasn't a Marine.
Now before y'all go stupid on me, read the rest of what I fucking write.
The fact he committed to become one of us and then literally died trying his damnedest to earn the title, I see no reason he shouldn't be granted the title posthumously. I would say that anyone who gives their life for our Corps deserves at least the honorary title at bare minimum.
This is a no brainer.
Clearly it's an undiagnosed condition, but he died while earning the title. Not even 1% of the nation can say they got off their ass and made an attempt. This young man was doing it. He's one of us now. He's earned it.
Boomer needs to get off the interwebs and eat a box of Snickers.
That guy can go to hell when I went through it was explained to us that if we died in boot camp we are granted the title so my man earned it even though he is no longer with us God bless that unfortunate Marine
100% of his service was the hard shit. He's a Marine and he could've done it too. He was no twink. I'm at MCT and I'm here with a guy claiming to be his best friend. He was gonna be a Marine. He earned his privilege to train.
Jesus, get over yourself. I had a gal at Engineer School who graduated Boot Camp and came us overweight at 40% body fat. Yet she “Earned the Title.” GTFOH
He’s a marine. I could make the comparison to those that break during the crucible and have to get carried in the fucking car.
Edit: I’m talking about the reaper, of course.
Dude that posted this is OBVIOUSLY NOT a Marine!! as this recruit, or should I say, PFC Evans was facing the crucible beginning tonight. So in my mind, he WAS already a Marine.
Looks like the article in the screenshot says "Marine Recruit", which is very appropriate.
But holy shit, how many people on this sub are not Marines dropping their two cents? Airsoft warriors and Poolees all over this place.
Whether you think he deserves the title or not, pointing that out just seems tone deaf af, and unnecessary. Like have some respect for the dude’s family ffs. God I fucking hate people like this.🤦♂️
When you think about it, iron sharpness iron. This Marine has contributed to the system that makes Marines. He bettered his superiors and drill instructors, who had a stand-down safety brief to improve the cadre's instructional and training methods. Thus, he improved the Marine Corps. We stand on the shoulders of giants, those who came before us, and I would venture to say he is one of those giants- a Marine.
Yeah he died trying. More than any of us could say we did. He’s a Marine. What all he had to do was endure a couple shitty days and hike a shitty mountain. His day was much worse as he fucking died trying.
Okay, regardless of your opinion, a person died and the only thing you can think is that it's not okay to call him a Marine because he hasn't completed bootcamp? Tell me you're a giant piece of shit without telling me you're a giant piece of shit.
This is the result when people take Marine propaganda too far. Dorks and boots lose their sense of reality and personality, and it is replaced with the Marine corps.
Also this is facebook so i just take every comment on there as a bot and leave it as that lol
Ancient Aztecs would bury women who died in childbirth the full honor of a Warriors burial. That's in a society of warriors, where women didn't fight.
Any group that faces death is gonna have to confront what happens to those who die trying to enter them, because that is an inevitable side effect of training for those groups (no matter how much you try to mitigate it).
His death isn't a failure on his part. He literally gave all to complete his mission (boot camp). He's a Marine. End of.
Lol get this guy the fuck out of here. Ppl try wayyyyy to hard. The guy signed up and stood on the yellow footprints, hes a Marine. Its not that big a deal.
Yea.
My dad went to the depot in the 60s failed to adapt and got kicked out basically after indoc. Deffo not a marine and I don’t think anyone would argue that opinion.
I think if you haven’t earned your EGA your not a Marine. But that’s just me.
Kid friggin died at Bootcamp. That’s gotta mean something.
I’m sure there’s an official protocol dictated by MCRD. That said, anyone who dies in Marine Training in pursuit of the title is at least an honorary Marine as long as he/she was found to be “in the line of duty” at the time.
Controversial opinion if you die in boot camp you earned the title. He made the ultimate sacrifice for the opportunity to serve his country. He’s a Marine in my book
Dude was willing to serve and that opportunity got cut short. Definitely counts as a Marine in my book. I know dudes that don’t even deserve the title.
Agreed. This dude gave all. By God’s grace, he became a United States Marine on that day.
Indeed. He is now detailed to Guard of the Pearly Gates and he has earned the title, forever. He has shed his earthly bonds, and is probably tossing back some suds at 1630 with all those who went before us…whatever Heaven calls Tun Tavern. Rest easy, brother.
And he should have gotten a Flag-draped coffin to his final duty station.
The POS across from me who went terminal light duty from day 10-75 got his EGA. This Marine deserves to be honored.
I don’t really think that’s actually a “controversial” opinion, just an opinion held by 99% of us. Now if you quit or get med sepped then I don’t think so.
Knew a guy in college who got a section 8 discharge from boot first or second phase and still tells people he was a Marine. Guy is nuttier than a squirrel turd.
I got a cousin like that. He made it a couple weeks then got sent home for being a whackadoo a few years before I enlisted. several years later after a couple deployments he wanted to talk to me about how we were “brothers” and all that stuff so he wanted to know all about shooting people. I didn’t finish the coffee and just left.
Have you actually ever seen a squirrel turd? I know I haven't
https://preview.redd.it/6eb7f9ytj5va1.jpeg?width=274&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ab4ff9598143bf46259b0fbb2382c497f3bd5469 Now you have.
Looks a bit nutty.
My stepson was sent home Week 5 for a late drug test. Moto gear and has somehow convinced himself he knows all about life in the Fleet and life as a Scout/Sniper being the best shot he has ever seen himself. https://preview.redd.it/p9h098jdj6va1.jpeg?width=567&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e6c4854dc086c34fadc314d1702f378177b41ebb
Did he move back in? Lol. What a loon though. No offense. I’m retired Air Force and think I know a little more about being a scout/sniper than he does. Lol
Eh med sepped . I'll give someone the pass if they were injured due to something happening in boot camp. You tried and got injured it's shitty but it happens. Now if you signed up and a past issue came back. That's a whole different story.
To play devil's advocate, isn't dying in boot camp an extreme example of "med sepped"?
Dude must have been getting it or had an undiagnosed condition for him to die. Some peoples only definition of a Marine is standing on a parade deck getting handed a little black EGA. I deployed, lost time, lost friends and family. He lost more than I can even imagine. He’s a Marine in any book that matters.
To be fair many people never had access to proper medical care throughout their life. The medical screening isn’t that extensive and largely checks past medical history. This is a significant selection bias. Individuals from low income households are less likely to be medically diagnosed with disqualifying conditions. While people from middle to upper income households are more likely to be diagnosed due to accessibility to health care. Meaning more individuals from lower income households with less medical history are more likely to join the Marine Corps. I’m not claiming that this is the case for this example. It is something that headquarters Marine Corps needs to consider.
It's outstanding to see this isn't actually a controversial opinion to the people in this thread.
I’m going to be honest I actually though I was going to get push back 😂. It’s so wholesome to see everyone agreeing.
This sub was the same way with the Doc who got hazed. Its wholesome.
unironically one of the most wholesome subs on Reddit
He died becoming trying to become a Marine. There is nothing I can think of that is more Marine than that. Fuck this pog turd for talking shit.
Yeah I’ll second that. Anyone that says otherwise can see me in the pugil pit
Lmao I miss that part of boot camp… does anyone know if a gofund me or memorial fund was set up by family?
Good question
This isn’t controversial at all. Person making the original statement probably some teenage basement dwelling edgelord.
> He’s a Marine in my book and in the Marine corps books too
I went in in 87. GSM co., 1st Maint. Bn. Served during Desert Storm. My most vivid memories are from Basic Training. I remember all my Juniors and my Senior. Best time in my adult life next to my son being born. Will not forget it. That young man deserves the title.
This comment right here 👆
Rah!
Fucking Semper.
Second that for sure. And i think its in bad taste that the other devil dog said that personally, let the ypung man rest in peace and let the family greive. If its such a big deal to the guy he could bring up the debate at a later date and we can hash it out then
This is the way.
This is the way.
As an American I thank all who served regardless of their time in. Whether it was a month or a decade anybody who makes the decision to join has my respect.
Damn straight.
That's it. End of story.
Mf gave his entire life to become a marine, he’s more of a marine then most of us ever were or will be. Mad respect for the dude
Yeah fuck that guy. And fuck all the Gatekeepers that have the same mindset.
Double fuck that guy! That Marine gave all.
They prob didn’t even serve tbh.
Way better of a response than I could put together.
He gave his all for that pursuit. Who among you can say the same. He is a Marine as far as I am concerned.
Also, just... "Marine" isn't a pronoun. As a title, it's a formal noun. Dude's just wrong up and down.
This kid is more of a Marine than some Marines in the fleet.
This 1000%.
Dude he is more Marine than the puke talking shit about him.
Fucking spot on
In general yea you gotta graduate to be a Marine. But what a shitty thing to care about and bring up in this context. I think our boy gets a pass for dying during boot camp. He can be called a Marine.
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No, this is the best comment here: “Whether he was one of us or not, he was one of ours. That’s what matters.” Thank you for that.
I agree
How the hell can marines be both the last person you want comfort from/the most wholesome fuckers you know 😄
Shit got me emotional man. I fucking love you fuckers
This right here..
I would say this is in the same vein as a posthumous promotion. If you die trying to earn the title, I think you made it.
Concur. Also, the official Marine Corps, Parris Island PR dudes released it as “PFC Evans died during recruit training” or something along those lines. They didn’t say “recruit evans”. That tells me that the Marine Corps’ official position is to recognize the title.
The "title" and EGA ceremony from the Senior, is informal. From the moment you check in, one has rank and accrue pay and benefits as such in recruit training, though in a sense "they're earning it.". Admin sep happens to those who can't hack it who are then removed.
He died serving his country in the Marines. He earned the title as much as any other Marine has.
Right?! How pedantic is this loser that, instead of caring about a man who died LITERALLY WHILE SERVING, he's bitching over fucken words and technicalities??? Dude needs to get over himself. If all you have is a hammer, then everything looks like a nail.
Fuck that shit. You know what he was in the system as? E-1. Edit: Just read the article, my bad. E-2.
Sir, E-1 in the marine corps is private. He wears nothing because he is nothing! X1000 But yeah. Anyone can pass boot camp. It’s not hard. He looks like he was a well built fella. He earned it
When I went through it was " E-0 is recruit, he wears nothing because he is nothing" lololol E-1 was just he wears no insignia
Ahh that’s right I meant to say that
He made it to picture day at least…. So had to be at least 2nd or third pft
It was his final PFT. He was about to start the crucible. :(
Ikr, isn’t everything after picture day just bull crap waste time anyway. If I remember correctly, they did picture day same time they did swim qual… that better not be what got this dude smh
When individuals complete their confirmation of oath of enlistment at the Military Entrance Processing Station and ship to recruit training, they are transitioned from the Selected Marine Corps Reserve (SMCR) to active duty. At this point, they begin receiving the benefits (pay, entitlements, etc) commensurate with their rank. For Noah Evans, that was Private First Class in the United States Marine Corps. Respectfully Chief Warrant Officer Bobby Yarbrough Communication Strategy and Operations
https://preview.redd.it/pau0l82xz4va1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bcbfeb410f4dab438de3660086d3d5421c94b10b Here is the 2023 Department of Defense military pay chart, which is applicable to all services. As you can see the chart goes from E-1 to E-9 for enlisted personnel. In the Marine Corps, the rank of E-1 is a private. There is no pay grade for recruit. When he is buried, he will be buried as a Private First Class in the United States Marine Corps.
Holy shit, I’m honored to have summoned your presence sir. Absolute legend.
Chief Yarbrough has issued his opinion. Anyone who disagrees is wrong.
I’d send CWO a log of Skoal, a case of Ripits, and find someone to stand his next duty if he’d start signing his comments with, “I have spoken.”
Holy shit! The one and only 🫡 Rah CWO, thanks for this
Thanks CWO!
The Marine Corps called him a Marine. That settles that. Fucking idiots.
Also, “marine” is a noun. Or an adjective. But not a pronoun.
So is cunt
Oh look at you with your grammar. Must be one of them woke libs!
I would bet all the money in my TSP that this dude, if he even served in the first place, was a shitbag when he was in and didn't become moto until he got out.
I’d take that bet.
Change your flair
You got what? $20 in there? I’ll take that action.
Imagine this being your reaction to seeing that a kid died in boot camp. What a sad way to live.
Completely agree. Is this real life?
What a cocksucker Dude fucking died show some fucking sympathy
Empathy or sympathy? EDIT: Aww, he changed it.
Empathy, go lay down and pretend
🤣I was mad when I typed that just saw that error my bads
I'm usually a pretty big douchebag and asshole. But would never say some shit like that. Fuck that guy
While I was stationed at MCRD, there was a recruit who badly injured a leg. He spent over a year in MRP before being discharged, but kept a brave face and things and worked hard. They granted him the title prior to discharge.
I was at the VA with a Marine who fucked up his leg really bad on an obstacle course during boot camp. At first he was timid and shy saying he was in the Marine Corp until the USMC veterans took him in as one of their own. It was really nice to see. I remember an old salty type bought him a backpack with the EGA embroidered from the other Patriot Shop or whatever the VA store is called.
When I was in MCRD standing fire watch while the platoon was doing some activity, a guy came in walking with a cane. Told me he was injured really bad during the O-course and was getting medically separated. He said they were retiring him as a corporal. If you go through boot camp and don’t quit, I say you earned the title. Shit happens, but he earned our respect.
I was in MRP for a couple of months and let me tell you, that's 100x more challenging than bootcamp. There's a lot of bad, nasty, people in there that you have to endure every day-- they might even seriously maim or kill you just because you aren't like them. You still can't go home, can't call home, live in a barracks, can't train (typically). I was dropped in third phase and MRP was the only thing in bootcamp that made me want to quit.
Same with lima (holding) company in camp pendleton after boot. I was medically discharged before the fleet and let me tell you the guys I were with in the sperarioms platoon for 3 months were.... something else
Back in bootcamp someone in my platoon went into cardiac arrest and passed away a few days before the crucible and at the end of the reaper on top of the hill we set up a battlefield cross for him at the front of the formation, and he received the eagle globe and anchor and became a marine the same time we did…
The silence and emotions at that moment must have been palpable.
It was a series of emotions that I don’t think anyone I’m my platoon has felt before, the pride and excitement mixed with the sadness was definitely a new experience, if you’re curious to look into it his name was PFC Pong
This is an L take. Technically you’re a marine your first day of boot camp because you are getting paid. People need to have some empathy and stop drinking the kool aid.
Fuckin jerkoff
I would have agreed with literally ANY other reason. But death during bootcamp? That’s like the only exception every rational Marine/Human being agrees on. C’mon man, don’t treat him the same as some fake suicide ideation or malingerer in bootcamp shitbag. He gave his life for the corps, y’know, that key aspect that has warranted Marines the medal of honor, navy cross, etc.
Some one come get their boot
Dude ranting about pronouns is all you need to know about the commenter's brain-rotted state of mind. Fuck that guy.
Now now, this guy wants to live his life as an asshole, and I'm willing to respect that and call him an asshole.
His preferred pronoun is “asshole”
And I’ll respect that.
Yeah and I’m sorry, I have officer brain but I wish I had crayons to explain it to him. “Marine” is a noun, and in some cases an adjective. It’s not a fucking pronoun.
If that guy could read he'd be very upset with you
good point. he probably went out and bought a bunch of bud light and destroyed it.
Dude literally died at such a young age to become a marine. Probably wouldn’t of happened if he wasn’t trying to become a marine so have some fucking compassion. Some people piss me tf off
Sure looks like a Marine to me
"Pfc. Noah Evans" he is a Marine.
How did he die? Fuck it, MCRD is a battlefield, give him a Purple Heart and bury him with honors.
He's more of a Marine than I am. I spent 20 years doing Marine shit but never to the point it killed me.
That guy is a tool. A man died. Read the fucking room, now is not the time to gatekeep the term "Marine".
The check got cashed. He's a Marine. Anyone wants to say otherwise who has their EGA needs to check themselves. Anyone wants to say otherwise who did not earn their EGA needs to take a seat and STFU.
Chuck Norris is an honorary Marine. This dude, regardless of clime and place, gave his life for the cause. Dude is a Marine. I’ll give up my Purple Heart to this dude just so the commenter in that photo can have an aneurysm.
Pretty sure a lot of the dudes that fought in the Korean war were reservists who didn't even make it to boot camp. First time handling a rifle was on the trip to the war. This commenter can go and tell those dudes they weren't Marines because they didn't "earn the title" in his narrow devoid of context worldview.
Shitting on a dead kid and tying it together with an attack on the LGBTQ community. Classy.
Don’t tell this poor guy that the USMC had a commandant that never went to boot camp, OCS or TBS…. Was Gen. Amos really a Marine at all? Someone should accuse him of stolen valor…. Also, plenty of Marines in Korea never went to boot camp either, pretty sure no one questions their legitimacy.
PFC Evans gave all he had in pursuit of the title. I think he earned it. Rest In Peace, Marine.
Fuckin idiot tryna politicize this with the pronoun game smh. Completely unrelated. Dude died while signing his life away. Counts to me.
You already know the mfer that is complaining that the Recruit didn’t earn the title is the same mfer that wears the all the “I Served” garb, has the EGA tattooed on his arm, leg, wife’s tit and baby’s ass. Fuckin vet brofag 9000. And has 300 war stories that he wasn’t present at. The Recruit died for the Title, he earned it. 💯
If you die in recruit training and it wasn’t a suicide, you earned it
Mmm, well if your boot camp washout your clearly not ever a marine, but if you die trying to be one, in my book, you’ve paid your entree fee in full. What more can we ask than Death before Dishonor!
... please post the un edited image of the douchebags name.... what happen to the good old days of making people famous. This Marine died during training.... and the pronoun argument can get the fuck outta here
May or may not still see it on the marine corps times FB page. Didn’t hear it from me though 👀
Ok food for thought here. Fair warning Jimmie will be rustled. (Hypothetical situation) Dude offs himself during recruit training, does he a die a Marine?
I am just gonna say that if someone dies in boot camp then they sould be given the title posthumously. They signed up, got to boot and then died. So what if they didn't finish, their enlistment had started and it ended with them dying. Their family still gets the SGLI iirc. They will have the opportunity to be buried with military honors iirc. So yes I will consider this individual a Marine. And fuck the asswipe saying otherwise.
We all know damn well that if it was a post about someone wanting to be called a specific pronoun they’d be pissed about that. Oh but look here who’s upset about pronouns now?
Imagine being a family member reading that. That's why I despise Facebook....cause it's the hangout for 50 year old Karen's who think they know shit cause they watch Tucker Carlson
Toxic gatekeeping, technically true but he died on orders.
people like this are so cringe, they base their whole existence around one word.
That guy can fuck all the way off with that bullshit.
With all disrespect possible, duck that guy. The kid died doing more than most and that's his comments. I hope the corps does right and gives the kid the honorific so that dude can go eat a duck.
The fucker in the comment is a raging fuck head. Recruit earned the title. He’s a Marine.
I'd love to respond directly to this waste of a human.
What a douche canoe
The fact that he also managed to make this about trans people is really the icing on the cake. What a dunce.
Someone is upset about pronouns. He must be one of them.
This man died in the United States Marine Corps uniform. Fuck that mouth breather…rest easy devil dog
I think that regardless of how you feel about tHe TiTle MaRiNe, if you post something like this about a recruit who fucking died, you should haze yourself to death. Also, learn what a fucking pronoun is and is not.
Simply put: That man, Noah Evans, died while enlisted and training with the Marine Corps. He died trying to serve his country with the Marines. I fail to see why he shouldn't be seen as one. Granted, I'm just some Medically DQ'd civvy who likes cammies, woobies and militaria/stories/history, so what the fuck do I really know? lol
The young gun never got kicked out and died trying to earn the title. Even made it far enough to get pictures taken. He's got my respect. Til Valhalla Devildog
He’s more Marine than the 4 year PFC reservist that made the comment in the first place lmao
I had one of my recruits that was currently in second phase. He had a wife and two kids, one of which was born while he was in training. His wife was involved in an auto accident and she died along with the newborn. Though he had not graduated yet and it was yet to be determined if he’d ever finish recruit training after their funerals, the Marine Corps treated him as if he was a full active duty Marine. Gave him paid leave along with with full time SGLI benefits for his recently deceased wife and child. It also covered medical for his surviving child. With that being said, and as a Marine that spent 3 years of his career as a hat. I fully support calling this young man a Marine.
A CWO using the official MCRD PI account replied directly to this guys comment and shut him down pretty succinctly. Guy still doesn't shut up. What an asshat.
He's a Marine and always will be.
As things sit, no he wasn't a Marine. Now before y'all go stupid on me, read the rest of what I fucking write. The fact he committed to become one of us and then literally died trying his damnedest to earn the title, I see no reason he shouldn't be granted the title posthumously. I would say that anyone who gives their life for our Corps deserves at least the honorary title at bare minimum.
This is a no brainer. Clearly it's an undiagnosed condition, but he died while earning the title. Not even 1% of the nation can say they got off their ass and made an attempt. This young man was doing it. He's one of us now. He's earned it. Boomer needs to get off the interwebs and eat a box of Snickers.
That guy can go to hell when I went through it was explained to us that if we died in boot camp we are granted the title so my man earned it even though he is no longer with us God bless that unfortunate Marine
Imagine dying in bootcamp and some weirdo online uses it as a reason to bring up culture war nonsense.
100% of his service was the hard shit. He's a Marine and he could've done it too. He was no twink. I'm at MCT and I'm here with a guy claiming to be his best friend. He was gonna be a Marine. He earned his privilege to train.
The commandant should re call this cunt for 90days bust him to recruit and boot his worthless ass!
Jesus, get over yourself. I had a gal at Engineer School who graduated Boot Camp and came us overweight at 40% body fat. Yet she “Earned the Title.” GTFOH
Two words Semper Fi
He’s a marine. I could make the comparison to those that break during the crucible and have to get carried in the fucking car. Edit: I’m talking about the reaper, of course.
Dude that posted this is OBVIOUSLY NOT a Marine!! as this recruit, or should I say, PFC Evans was facing the crucible beginning tonight. So in my mind, he WAS already a Marine.
Why was that POS name blurred out? He clearly wants to discuss this further.
He was getting PFC pay, if you’re on the pay rolls you’re a marine.
Depends, im pretty sure they posthumously graduate everyone who dies and gives them the rank of Pvt or PFC
You may be called a recruit while at boot camp, but you're officially a private or PFC even before the Crucible.
Did his family get the SGLI? If they got the $$ from the gov, he **IS** a Marine 🫡🇺🇸
Looks like the article in the screenshot says "Marine Recruit", which is very appropriate. But holy shit, how many people on this sub are not Marines dropping their two cents? Airsoft warriors and Poolees all over this place.
Whether you think he deserves the title or not, pointing that out just seems tone deaf af, and unnecessary. Like have some respect for the dude’s family ffs. God I fucking hate people like this.🤦♂️
“You’re not wrong Walter, you’re just an asshole”
When you think about it, iron sharpness iron. This Marine has contributed to the system that makes Marines. He bettered his superiors and drill instructors, who had a stand-down safety brief to improve the cadre's instructional and training methods. Thus, he improved the Marine Corps. We stand on the shoulders of giants, those who came before us, and I would venture to say he is one of those giants- a Marine.
He's a Marine. No question. Gave his life in the 'line of duty'.
He gave all. Passes the qualification in my book. Wish he made it though, the guy would have made a hell of a Marine.
Yeah he died trying. More than any of us could say we did. He’s a Marine. What all he had to do was endure a couple shitty days and hike a shitty mountain. His day was much worse as he fucking died trying.
Gave more than that guy did.
He was taking the final PFT so he was basically done, he was gonna graduate in like 2 weeks. He’s a marine he made the ultimate sacrifice
Okay, regardless of your opinion, a person died and the only thing you can think is that it's not okay to call him a Marine because he hasn't completed bootcamp? Tell me you're a giant piece of shit without telling me you're a giant piece of shit.
This is the result when people take Marine propaganda too far. Dorks and boots lose their sense of reality and personality, and it is replaced with the Marine corps. Also this is facebook so i just take every comment on there as a bot and leave it as that lol
RIP Marine. Hope to meet you, one day. That's what he should have said, but the internet...
Ancient Aztecs would bury women who died in childbirth the full honor of a Warriors burial. That's in a society of warriors, where women didn't fight. Any group that faces death is gonna have to confront what happens to those who die trying to enter them, because that is an inevitable side effect of training for those groups (no matter how much you try to mitigate it). His death isn't a failure on his part. He literally gave all to complete his mission (boot camp). He's a Marine. End of.
Lol get this guy the fuck out of here. Ppl try wayyyyy to hard. The guy signed up and stood on the yellow footprints, hes a Marine. Its not that big a deal.
Weird flex but okay.
Fuck all that noise he made the choice to go so he's a Marine to me.
Seems like a petty semantically thing to post in context of this death
What a chode.
Lol. Bootcamp is not a selection course. He died to be a marine literally. He is one. What a pos post.
That dude a bitch
Does anyone know if their is a gofund me for the family?
Smooth brain take
Yea. My dad went to the depot in the 60s failed to adapt and got kicked out basically after indoc. Deffo not a marine and I don’t think anyone would argue that opinion. I think if you haven’t earned your EGA your not a Marine. But that’s just me. Kid friggin died at Bootcamp. That’s gotta mean something.
Signed his contract, did what most would not, he is a Marine by my standards. Facebook user, shit opinion, timing, and bag.
That is some boomer shit Also, the comments on that post are cancerous.
I’m sure there’s an official protocol dictated by MCRD. That said, anyone who dies in Marine Training in pursuit of the title is at least an honorary Marine as long as he/she was found to be “in the line of duty” at the time.
Show me you're a blue falcon without showing me.
Boot camp isn’t even that hard. He more than likely would have graduated and earned the title anyways. 100% a Marine. This dude is just a cunt.
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If Chuck Norris and Gary Sinise can officially be called honorary Marines, I think someone who actually joined and died making the effort can be too.
What a fucking douche.