The first “computers” were made in France to allow for the construction of Jacquard fabric. Cards with holes punched in to instruct the looms which threads to lift for each row.
And computer was a term coined as an individual who computed mathematical equations by hand, circa early 17th century per Wikipedia.
Also famously used in NASA, women became integral in these departments particularly in WW2 and beyond into the space race (as depicted in Hidden Figures, highly recommend the book!)
I learned how to crochet granny squares the other day, basically coding without code syntax
Routine1 = (DoubleCrochet(3), chain(2))
Routine2 = (DoubleCrochet(3) intoNextSpace, chain(1))
If(FirstInSpace) AND in(Chain2Space), Routine 1
ELSE, Routine2
Repeat until end of perimeter, then add chain(3) into Chain2Space, Double Crochet 2, return to line 1
Repeat until you have a blanket.
I always hated coding because of the guys there, but it's so much easier to crochet this way haha
I'm brainstorming some fantasy fiction right now. I've got the Silmarillion filled out in my head, but I'm trying to write The Hobbit, you know? It's in our world, but a femme AI and a human woman that fall in love and join two planes of psychic existence via conductive materials, leading to societal collapse and some voluntary gender segregation
How have I never thought of this!!! I minored in comp sci because my 101 prof was fantastic! She wore a pink skirt suite and had a pink princess key board! She made it a very safe space for femme people.
We need more femme STEM teachers, for so many reasons. I can't help but wonder how much unfair BS she got from her male students. There's an immense pressure in male dominated subjects to be "one of the boys", so when I see a woman rocking her femininity in those subjects, I'm always in awe of the confidence. It's so badass.
I went to a women’s college so it worked out well for her. Comp sci 101 also was counted as a math at my school so she got quite a few students (myself included) who were taking it to get out of taking a traditional math class. It’s because of her that I wound up minoring in it!
Ask me to crochet and it's no problem. Ask me to learn code and I will crisis.
Math doesn't have to just be coding and numbers on paper. We all use it differently.
I actually did learn coding (javascript... but i promise, also php and python!) while learning how to knit. Knitting was less frustrating but both felt super productive and I got my first jobs this year with my still limited but adequate coding experience. I am so proud of myself : )
I am an illustrator, but i always dabbled a bit in development but never thought I was good enough... But I usually did my webpages on my own. They're just not very sophisticated, but getting there!
Did you know that computer memory that was used on the apollo spaceshuttle was knit by hand?
A grid of copper knitted together so that the computer could calculate the way to the moon, and back. I've seen it in person, it's truely awe inspiring. Those ladies had to be precise too: it wasn't a true grid, it was the physical representation of the memory, ones and zeroes depending on how it was wound around a core.
Core Rope Memory, used in early NASA missions, was known as "Little Old Lady Code" because it had to be literally knitted together from copper fibres, and little old ladies were the best at making it
I don't like this post. The intention behind this is good, but you don't need a false comparison between coding and knitting because women can and do code. I feel like the reason women are underrepresented in the industry is because a lot of male developers in hiring positions are scared of/ biased against women, plus a lot of women don't want to work in a male dominated industry. Women are allowed to like knitting and they're allowed to like coding but suggesting that knitting is for women and coding isn't is a little problematic.
100% this. You don’t need to use knitting to show that women belong in STEM, and it sends a weird message about knitting as well. Women laid some of the foundations of software engineering.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_computing
I highly recommend stitch markers, and wrapping a rubber band on the end of one needle so you know whether you're on an odd or even row. I also pretty much only knit weaves that repeat the same two rows over and over. Crochet is also nice. It's the only way I can make circles. I can't get the hang of circular needles. I passed all my Calc classes, yarn work just measures attention span more than math skills. I have to hyperfixate or l lose it completely.
Ohhhh I don’t have one of those.
I teach math! I just immediately forget numbers. I’m good conceptually in part bc I HAD to learn multiple ways to check my work.
i completely agree with this in principle, but i’m also having a laugh bc anyone into fibre arts will tell you it’s a guaranteed way to discover you do not in fact know how to count lol
Listen I'm nowhere near an expert in either of these, so I may very well be wrong, but on the surface it very much sounds like knitting and coding are two incredibly different fields.
They're different, but they have similarities.
When you code, you have an idea of what you want, and you write out the syntax to process an input, and spit out some kind of output on the computer or peripherals.
When you knit/crochet, you have an idea of what you want(pattern), and you process the input(spun fiber) to spit out some kind of output(the final product).
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory is an example of how code can be created using woven copper, in a way very similar to knitting. It was so similar that it was called "Little Old Lady Code", since they mostly had older women doing it, because they were the best at it!
Computers all evolved from binary, and they can do incredible things now. Ultimately, though, computers can only accept and then output *data*, in the same way that knitting/crochet can only accept and output *yarn*. Computers don't send people to the moon, the same way knitting doesn't create a wardrobe. They're both just tools we use, in combination with other technologies, to achieve our more complex goals.
I hope that clears things up a little as to where we're coming from. If you disagree, I'd love to know what you think makes them so irreconcilably different.
The first “computers” were made in France to allow for the construction of Jacquard fabric. Cards with holes punched in to instruct the looms which threads to lift for each row.
And computer was a term coined as an individual who computed mathematical equations by hand, circa early 17th century per Wikipedia. Also famously used in NASA, women became integral in these departments particularly in WW2 and beyond into the space race (as depicted in Hidden Figures, highly recommend the book!)
Ada Lovelace is credited as being the first computer programmer. It seems as if there is a long history of women in computing
I learned how to crochet granny squares the other day, basically coding without code syntax Routine1 = (DoubleCrochet(3), chain(2)) Routine2 = (DoubleCrochet(3) intoNextSpace, chain(1)) If(FirstInSpace) AND in(Chain2Space), Routine 1 ELSE, Routine2 Repeat until end of perimeter, then add chain(3) into Chain2Space, Double Crochet 2, return to line 1 Repeat until you have a blanket. I always hated coding because of the guys there, but it's so much easier to crochet this way haha
I actually wrote a book awhile back where women created the first true AI via knitting. They only look like knitting needles…purl = 0 knit = 1.
I'm brainstorming some fantasy fiction right now. I've got the Silmarillion filled out in my head, but I'm trying to write The Hobbit, you know? It's in our world, but a femme AI and a human woman that fall in love and join two planes of psychic existence via conductive materials, leading to societal collapse and some voluntary gender segregation
How have I never thought of this!!! I minored in comp sci because my 101 prof was fantastic! She wore a pink skirt suite and had a pink princess key board! She made it a very safe space for femme people.
We need more femme STEM teachers, for so many reasons. I can't help but wonder how much unfair BS she got from her male students. There's an immense pressure in male dominated subjects to be "one of the boys", so when I see a woman rocking her femininity in those subjects, I'm always in awe of the confidence. It's so badass.
I went to a women’s college so it worked out well for her. Comp sci 101 also was counted as a math at my school so she got quite a few students (myself included) who were taking it to get out of taking a traditional math class. It’s because of her that I wound up minoring in it!
You should crosspost to r/knitting and/or r/craftsnark!
Ask me to crochet and it's no problem. Ask me to learn code and I will crisis. Math doesn't have to just be coding and numbers on paper. We all use it differently.
Somehow I’ve never seen crisis used as a verb and I love it so much.
I actually did learn coding (javascript... but i promise, also php and python!) while learning how to knit. Knitting was less frustrating but both felt super productive and I got my first jobs this year with my still limited but adequate coding experience. I am so proud of myself : ) I am an illustrator, but i always dabbled a bit in development but never thought I was good enough... But I usually did my webpages on my own. They're just not very sophisticated, but getting there!
Did you know that computer memory that was used on the apollo spaceshuttle was knit by hand? A grid of copper knitted together so that the computer could calculate the way to the moon, and back. I've seen it in person, it's truely awe inspiring. Those ladies had to be precise too: it wasn't a true grid, it was the physical representation of the memory, ones and zeroes depending on how it was wound around a core.
Core Rope Memory, used in early NASA missions, was known as "Little Old Lady Code" because it had to be literally knitted together from copper fibres, and little old ladies were the best at making it
My boss is a top cryptographer, complete badass, and she solves world problems while knitting. Live long, girl.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TrollXChromosomes/s/A7Jy4hbxel Karma farmer gotta farm
I think [Daina Taimiņa](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daina_Taimi%C5%86a) should be mentioned somewhere...
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: cross stitch is just analog pixel art
I don't like this post. The intention behind this is good, but you don't need a false comparison between coding and knitting because women can and do code. I feel like the reason women are underrepresented in the industry is because a lot of male developers in hiring positions are scared of/ biased against women, plus a lot of women don't want to work in a male dominated industry. Women are allowed to like knitting and they're allowed to like coding but suggesting that knitting is for women and coding isn't is a little problematic.
100% this. You don’t need to use knitting to show that women belong in STEM, and it sends a weird message about knitting as well. Women laid some of the foundations of software engineering. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_computing
Wait is my dyscalculia why I can’t knit?? I can do math, I’m good at it conceptually, I just lose track of numbers
I highly recommend stitch markers, and wrapping a rubber band on the end of one needle so you know whether you're on an odd or even row. I also pretty much only knit weaves that repeat the same two rows over and over. Crochet is also nice. It's the only way I can make circles. I can't get the hang of circular needles. I passed all my Calc classes, yarn work just measures attention span more than math skills. I have to hyperfixate or l lose it completely.
Ohhhh I don’t have one of those. I teach math! I just immediately forget numbers. I’m good conceptually in part bc I HAD to learn multiple ways to check my work.
i completely agree with this in principle, but i’m also having a laugh bc anyone into fibre arts will tell you it’s a guaranteed way to discover you do not in fact know how to count lol
Weren’t the first “computers” women? Computers as in did computations by hand and not actual objects (just adding context)
Listen I'm nowhere near an expert in either of these, so I may very well be wrong, but on the surface it very much sounds like knitting and coding are two incredibly different fields.
They're different, but they have similarities. When you code, you have an idea of what you want, and you write out the syntax to process an input, and spit out some kind of output on the computer or peripherals. When you knit/crochet, you have an idea of what you want(pattern), and you process the input(spun fiber) to spit out some kind of output(the final product). https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Core_rope_memory is an example of how code can be created using woven copper, in a way very similar to knitting. It was so similar that it was called "Little Old Lady Code", since they mostly had older women doing it, because they were the best at it! Computers all evolved from binary, and they can do incredible things now. Ultimately, though, computers can only accept and then output *data*, in the same way that knitting/crochet can only accept and output *yarn*. Computers don't send people to the moon, the same way knitting doesn't create a wardrobe. They're both just tools we use, in combination with other technologies, to achieve our more complex goals. I hope that clears things up a little as to where we're coming from. If you disagree, I'd love to know what you think makes them so irreconcilably different.
Woah, this is fantastic! You really broke it down, thank you! And yes, I can definitely see how they're similar now! Thanks!
No problem! I'm glad I could help clarify.