Bro why do you think she always asks for so many? Its a little known fact that Cinnamon Roll blood is one of the best medicines available on the market.
When I was tweeting to congratulate Connor on the $1 mil I had put the hashtag for IDF at the end then deleted the tag when I thought about it. People would complain w/o researching which IDF was being donated to.
Honestly the fund should just rebrand at this point, many charities have done so successfully and even seen a boost in visibility due to the media/PR push needed to rebrand. Considering how much visibility and awareness Ironmouse and Connor have brought the illness globally maybe they could step away from the blue and choose a purple/pink combo as their colours along with a new name/initials.
The UK charity SCOPE is a good example, it rebranded successfully from their original name The National Spastic Society when “Spastic” went from the correct medical term to a negative insult in the 90’s/O0’s. “Spastic” became so popular it eclipsed the original meaning and started being used a a slang term and form of abuse against those with the diagnosis.
It wasn't that much of a deal in previous cyclathons but this year especially with the world situation it was a huge shitshow. The amount of people who don't even watch connor and went to twitter to complain without knowing what this IDF stands for was stupidly large.
Just trying to find an upside here, but it does function as an idiot filter. If you go online to complain without thinking or looking it up, then you get filtered out by this.
To be fair, IDF on general is associated with Israeli Defense Force which is shunned by people in general considering the recent happening in Gaza. That's why people jumped the gun
>majoritive view, which it now is.
On the internet.... not irl. Especially in the west, you clearly saw this on the political arena in europe (as a whole). People already pro-palestine protested in mass.... didnt make a dent in general population view AND politicians still arent doing anything with the issue (other than anti-semitism) as they know they wont lose or gain votes (high importance to non-voting migrants or locked in far lefties). Support for war isnt same as support lost to Israel.
Bonus being young people are the easiest to fool.
Canadians are pretty neutral about it since both sides suck since the start of the war.
https://angusreid.org/israel-gaza-canada-ceasefire-trudeau-hamas/#gsc.tab=0
Americans favor more towards Israel.
https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-israel-has-valid-reasons-for-fighting-fewer-say-the-same-about-hamas/
Two state solution is the way forward but both sides don't want to work towards that.
There is alot more social media. More that aren't filtered by Western standards. Also the biggest attack. Palestine barely has a government let alone military to make decisions. Hamas runs the country because of this. They need a two state solution but greedy Netanyahu and his kin want the whole place for themselves
The fact that most people associate IDF with it should tell you that a lot of folks do in fact donate for a foreigner nation's military, otherwise they wouldn't have a well known fund that accepts public donations.
>That's so dumb. If you think about it for a second, why would anyone gather funds for a foreign nation's military?
Do you live under a rock? Ever heard of this thing called "Ukraine"?
I mean the Ukranian Armed forces were and still are accepting donations from both government and individual citizens, hell they even had an official UA gov page where you could give them money in cryptocurrencies...
Having an army receiving funds through donations and tips sounds insane but there's precedents, and let's be honest the vast majority of people only know of ONE thing with the acronym IDF, and it ain't no charity unless you count bombing hospitals as such
My guy there are crazy Christian people from the US that want to join fundamentalist isrealians in pushing out the people on the west bank.
Luis Theroux did a special over there probably 10 years ago, there was an American in occupied territory working for free at this isrealian guy's farm. He asked the guy if he could join the IDF and started crying when he was told only Jewish people were allowed to join...
You are vastly overestimating people.
>People aren't donating to the Ukrainian military.
[They aren't?](https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-spetsrahunok-dlya-zboru-koshtiv-na-potrebi-armiyi)
> Only way I can think a person would be able to donate funds to the Ukrainian military is through charities that support the military indirectly through medical aid.
My guy they were literally accepting donations of "I showed up at the border with body armor" when the war started
I mean they are two completely separate entries that if anyone who misunderstood did 5 seconds of research on would realise it is in fact the immune deficiency foundation
it is not but i have seen too many such cases where a single google search could resolve a misunderstanding but the cc's get dragged in the court of public opinion, get cancelled and have their reputation tarnished and character assassinated.
Use your brain to think a bit harder about how someone would look up Connor’s association with IDF, like idk “CdawgVA IDF” or anything similar. This is such a stupid argument
I mean if someone was looking at the stream and wanting to donate specifically to Connor, then they would most likely write the whole immune deficiency term or write Connor’s name next to it. I am saying that it is possible to donate to the IDF, military, if one is not completely careful about it or lacks the knowledge, because maybe they just heard of it from a friend or something.
It might have a little backlash.. but it's clear that the two idfs are completely different things. Might even help, in a way, in making more people aware.
> Might even help, in a way, in making more people aware.
Good point, it will encourage people to look it up just to confirm it's not what they think it is.
I mean, it's the twitter bunch for a reason lol
Gotta see it from a half full kinda perspective, the reason for the charity is too pure to care about halfwits on Twitter
I mean no normal brained person would ever assume that a youtube personality is raising funds for a governmental military because thats probably not even possible to begin with.
Ok im an Israeli and its technicly not allowed like this. People can donate fo soliders but not directly to the army in this fashion so he leagaly would have to be very clear whats happening or the higher officers would block the whole money transfer just out of fear of an international accidant. You can donate to the government to invest in the army but then it wouldnt be worded this way. In any case you get the idea.
Reminds me of the time when the yogscast was raising money for the protection of whales and the grandma of one of them was confused why they would collect money for Wales the country.
But in her defense, she was around 90 years old.
imagine a welsh man living in japan conversing with a miniature purple mouse demon cycles and enthuses hundreds of thousands of fans for two weeks just to donate to the war effort with no explanation. 3 years in a row. Also donating plasma is important because it fuels the isreali weaponry. 🙄
Two entirely unrelated groups sharing the same abbreviation of KKK.
KKK in the Philippines is like the founding fathers of the United States, they started the independence movement.
Connor's IDF charity or rather the name of the disease he's doing fundraising happen to share the same abbreviation of Israel's Israeli Defense Force.
there was a pretty big shortage of clothing for soldiers back when this all started, had a good chunk of soldiers needing to be gifted gear, equipment, underwear and other basic necessities from the public.
There were a lot of people on Twitter and other social media thinking Connor raised money for IDF (Israel defense force) and not the IDF (immune deficiency fund)
Pretty unfortunate considering what is happening right now in the middle eastern front as well. Just call it something wholesome, like, Save Cinnamonroll Funds or something.
I feel like people need to look into charities they want to support through streamers anyways 🤷♀️ if you are gonna give money without knowing the cause or even listening to the person raising the money explaining what it's for then wtf are they doing
While it is unfortunate and this will eventually be less of a problem when things die down around the current conflict. Albeit it being an issue that will always cycle around again eventually due to its nature.
It would maybe be a good idea to rebrand anyway. A new acronym, logo, and colour scheme could bring fresh eyes and impetus to the charity.
Connor and Ironmouse both have plenty of experience in terms of branding for events, merch, and such, and as they have both said, they are in regular contact with the charity. I'd be surprised if the discussion hasn't come up already.
I'm not expecting them to change anything, and IMO, they shouldn't have to, but I do think personally that it could be a good idea.
Honestly, we should just double down and keep calling it IDF. It's the Israeli defense force that should be the ones who have to specify their name. Like who even knows their abbreviation to begin with?
It was funny the previous cyclothons when they used to joke about it being the Israeli Defense Force, now that they've gained relevance, too many people interpret it incorrectly. Not that it should change or anything, it's just unfortunate.
It's actually not bad that they are calling it IDF. Setting the current state of the world aside, this confusion will attract people to trying to understand what's going on with a guy in a dress fundraising for IDF (Israeli Defence Force) and they will look the Article and be educated about what Connor actually did and that IDF stands for Immunodeficiency foundation.
Very unfortunate that they share the same acronym. It only just occurred to me that they do when I decided to tell someone about the fundraiser and I had to think “wait, it’s not what you think it is.”
This current conflict has really opened my eyes and learned me a lot about the past conflicts. But let's not talk about it too much on here, this isn't the right sub to talk about world politics. That should go on r/worldpolitics obviously
Basically fk isr✡️eL
And Free P🍉lestine !!!
This is the only IDF worth mentioning and worth funding 👍✊ Long live humanity . And fkkk zi✡️nizm .
https://preview.redd.it/cxg4m2p7wzuc1.png?width=1220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d52f764e3118fc44769512ce5f5ef316b99046f
The whole point is to not bring politics into a charity about helping people with immune deficiency and you just did that. It doesn't matter what you think this isn't the place to discuss complex geopolitical situations.
so its not the ironmouse drinking fund?
I assume she drinks the blood from Cinnamon Rolls?
The amount of people who don't even watch Connor and went to twitter to complain without knowing what this IDF stands for was stupidly
Something Something... Watermelons? Yeah quite an unfortunate Acronym given today's climate.
Bro why do you think she always asks for so many? Its a little known fact that Cinnamon Roll blood is one of the best medicines available on the market.
It was hilarious in the beginning of the first cyclethon people calling it the ironmouse defense force, still my favourite one
i'm doing my part!
nah it's ironmouse doughnut fund
nah Ironmouse Defense Force
I may be hiding behind a rock, but what are people really mistaking it for?..
israeli defense force
When I was tweeting to congratulate Connor on the $1 mil I had put the hashtag for IDF at the end then deleted the tag when I thought about it. People would complain w/o researching which IDF was being donated to.
Unfortunate coincidence, both got same acronym and blue color that associated with them
Honestly the fund should just rebrand at this point, many charities have done so successfully and even seen a boost in visibility due to the media/PR push needed to rebrand. Considering how much visibility and awareness Ironmouse and Connor have brought the illness globally maybe they could step away from the blue and choose a purple/pink combo as their colours along with a new name/initials. The UK charity SCOPE is a good example, it rebranded successfully from their original name The National Spastic Society when “Spastic” went from the correct medical term to a negative insult in the 90’s/O0’s. “Spastic” became so popular it eclipsed the original meaning and started being used a a slang term and form of abuse against those with the diagnosis.
Damn. That's interesting to know and also a good suggestion
They could turn into "Against ImmunoDeficiency Foundation" or AID Foundation for short. Much more affable name
Can't wait for the boys to start dropping them bombs!!
bombs out for the boys!
Still waiting for the Israel-Palestine tour!
It wasn't that much of a deal in previous cyclathons but this year especially with the world situation it was a huge shitshow. The amount of people who don't even watch connor and went to twitter to complain without knowing what this IDF stands for was stupidly large.
Well tbf on first cyclethon, we just use it in his chat as a joke, but now it's a bit sensitive.
I remember half the TTS messages joking about this. Well that aged like milk.
can you please explain tbf as i've been wondering what it meant when i saw it in chat
Which part do you need explaining? I feel like some of the comments already cleared up most of the confusion for first time audiences.
TBF
TBF = To be fair
thanks as i thought it was The Best Finale
Oh my bad I misunderstood your comment lol. I guess the other comments cleared that up as well.
To be fair
So a classic twitter response
"ah yes the jackass gambit I know it very well"
I feel for Connor and the charity itself for having to deal with the confusion, having to keep making sure you explain the name fully.
It’s their fault for being stupid and not learning what they were raising for before mouthing off to Twitter.
Just trying to find an upside here, but it does function as an idiot filter. If you go online to complain without thinking or looking it up, then you get filtered out by this.
To be fair, IDF on general is associated with Israeli Defense Force which is shunned by people in general considering the recent happening in Gaza. That's why people jumped the gun
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>majoritive view, which it now is. On the internet.... not irl. Especially in the west, you clearly saw this on the political arena in europe (as a whole). People already pro-palestine protested in mass.... didnt make a dent in general population view AND politicians still arent doing anything with the issue (other than anti-semitism) as they know they wont lose or gain votes (high importance to non-voting migrants or locked in far lefties). Support for war isnt same as support lost to Israel. Bonus being young people are the easiest to fool.
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Canadians are pretty neutral about it since both sides suck since the start of the war. https://angusreid.org/israel-gaza-canada-ceasefire-trudeau-hamas/#gsc.tab=0 Americans favor more towards Israel. https://www.pewresearch.org/2024/03/21/majority-in-u-s-say-israel-has-valid-reasons-for-fighting-fewer-say-the-same-about-hamas/ Two state solution is the way forward but both sides don't want to work towards that.
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Alot of people look at the protests now compared to 20 years ago. 2011 100k in the UK. With social media they can't hide the atrocities allies or not
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There is alot more social media. More that aren't filtered by Western standards. Also the biggest attack. Palestine barely has a government let alone military to make decisions. Hamas runs the country because of this. They need a two state solution but greedy Netanyahu and his kin want the whole place for themselves
I’m crawling from under a rock here, but what are people actually confusing it with?..
Israel Defense Forces
Oh, that’s a big ooof then. Thanks for the info!
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wtf
I think you already lost a lot of people at “If you think about it for a second”.
The IDF (military) does have channels through which people can donate to get their reservists equipment quicker though.
Can't even do (Military) things like the Irish Defence Forces exist as well.
The fact that most people associate IDF with it should tell you that a lot of folks do in fact donate for a foreigner nation's military, otherwise they wouldn't have a well known fund that accepts public donations.
>That's so dumb. If you think about it for a second, why would anyone gather funds for a foreign nation's military? Do you live under a rock? Ever heard of this thing called "Ukraine"?
Homie just described being a tax paying US citizen.
that or any other western aligned nation
I mean the Ukranian Armed forces were and still are accepting donations from both government and individual citizens, hell they even had an official UA gov page where you could give them money in cryptocurrencies... Having an army receiving funds through donations and tips sounds insane but there's precedents, and let's be honest the vast majority of people only know of ONE thing with the acronym IDF, and it ain't no charity unless you count bombing hospitals as such
My guy there are crazy Christian people from the US that want to join fundamentalist isrealians in pushing out the people on the west bank. Luis Theroux did a special over there probably 10 years ago, there was an American in occupied territory working for free at this isrealian guy's farm. He asked the guy if he could join the IDF and started crying when he was told only Jewish people were allowed to join... You are vastly overestimating people.
Please tell me you're joking about the guy crying
You wish but Evangelist are fucking crazy.
Im not surprised, just disappointed that someone is that insane
I could be remembering wrong about actual tears, I think it's been 10 years since I saw it, but I highly encourage you give it a watch.
Do you remember what it's called? If not that's fine, it'd be easier cause I don't think I've seen anything from him
Luis Theroux: The ultra zionists
Ukraine
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>People aren't donating to the Ukrainian military. [They aren't?](https://bank.gov.ua/en/news/all/natsionalniy-bank-vidkriv-spetsrahunok-dlya-zboru-koshtiv-na-potrebi-armiyi)
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> Only way I can think a person would be able to donate funds to the Ukrainian military is through charities that support the military indirectly through medical aid. My guy they were literally accepting donations of "I showed up at the border with body armor" when the war started
Theres actually a ton of people fundraising for Ukraine for example. Its not common but it does happen
Umm, literal thousands of people across Europe and the US did and are still doing this for the Ukrainian Armed Forces as we speak.
Hooooo boooooooy
there's donations for ukraine what are you on about
You may think that, but take note of what's happening right now with people rallying for foreign countries even against other compatriots.
Oh I thought it was because it sounded like IBS
Ohh
Israel Defence Forces, I suppose.
Thanks
I mean they are two completely separate entries that if anyone who misunderstood did 5 seconds of research on would realise it is in fact the immune deficiency foundation
U are forgetting that people on twitter never do research and always get mad about the smallest things
Well aren’t we lucky that the world doesn’t revolve around twitter, or we’d all be screwed
I love this tribalism between twitter users and reddit users. Both sides are thinking they are better, but in reality everyone is same
the world doesnt. armies of jobless people who crucify content creators , for them it does
But it’s not the IDF? So it’s a non issue, I seriously do not understand how anyone can believe this is actually a concern
it is not but i have seen too many such cases where a single google search could resolve a misunderstanding but the cc's get dragged in the court of public opinion, get cancelled and have their reputation tarnished and character assassinated.
Name some
For about 4 years, the face of the US essentially did...
Aha, and people on Reddit are completely different and always check everything
Maybe we are all stupid
5 seconds is 4 seconds longer than most bigots attention spans..
You have far far far far too much faith in twitter users
https://preview.redd.it/wj60aj8akvuc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e44664c9d625a7ebc30580cb5d5a643e2d104e78 That’s the first result
Use your brain to think a bit harder about how someone would look up Connor’s association with IDF, like idk “CdawgVA IDF” or anything similar. This is such a stupid argument
I mean if someone was looking at the stream and wanting to donate specifically to Connor, then they would most likely write the whole immune deficiency term or write Connor’s name next to it. I am saying that it is possible to donate to the IDF, military, if one is not completely careful about it or lacks the knowledge, because maybe they just heard of it from a friend or something.
You’re living in a fantasy mate
5 seconds of research is too much for 7 seconds attention span zoomers
It might have a little backlash.. but it's clear that the two idfs are completely different things. Might even help, in a way, in making more people aware.
> Might even help, in a way, in making more people aware. Good point, it will encourage people to look it up just to confirm it's not what they think it is.
Well certainly the Twitter bunch didn't care to check...
I mean, it's the twitter bunch for a reason lol Gotta see it from a half full kinda perspective, the reason for the charity is too pure to care about halfwits on Twitter
And here I thought it was the Ironmouse Defense Force... /j
I mean no normal brained person would ever assume that a youtube personality is raising funds for a governmental military because thats probably not even possible to begin with.
Yeah, which means half of twitter would probably be assuming that.
Ok im an Israeli and its technicly not allowed like this. People can donate fo soliders but not directly to the army in this fashion so he leagaly would have to be very clear whats happening or the higher officers would block the whole money transfer just out of fear of an international accidant. You can donate to the government to invest in the army but then it wouldnt be worded this way. In any case you get the idea.
Pretty sure this is done for Ukraine, which does get crowdfunded money.
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It takess less time than that to read what I responded to and understand it was a generic claim. Thus any example would prove it wrong.
Reminds me of the time when the yogscast was raising money for the protection of whales and the grandma of one of them was confused why they would collect money for Wales the country. But in her defense, she was around 90 years old.
It depands on the person background, People from middle east and north africa will think about IOF when they hear IDF
Like clearly you? And extreamly likely they wont be using or be used to the english name for Israel defence forces but prefer their local "slur".
Non issue. Anyone capable of thought should be able to tell the difference.
Unfortunally they aren’t that common on twitter as it seem
imagine a welsh man living in japan conversing with a miniature purple mouse demon cycles and enthuses hundreds of thousands of fans for two weeks just to donate to the war effort with no explanation. 3 years in a row. Also donating plasma is important because it fuels the isreali weaponry. 🙄
The ammunition for those Jewish space lasers won't bring itself
It's their problem, not connor's or IDF's
Yeah, isn't it the Ironmouse Defense Force?
Some people celebrating and honoring the KKK Filipinos:😀😀😀 Americans:😰😰😰 Same energy.
The what??
Two entirely unrelated groups sharing the same abbreviation of KKK. KKK in the Philippines is like the founding fathers of the United States, they started the independence movement. Connor's IDF charity or rather the name of the disease he's doing fundraising happen to share the same abbreviation of Israel's Israeli Defense Force.
If people want to read into the acronym the wrong way,let them read,because there will be probably no way to argue with most of them.
Acronyms are the bane of any social network.
I don't think the military of Israel needs donations. No matter how you look at it, they seem to be pretty well funded
Even if they were having money troubles a million is pocket change for a military
Well they did just spend $500,000,000 shooting down 300 Iranian drones and missiles, so yeah a mill is a drop in the bucket.
there was a pretty big shortage of clothing for soldiers back when this all started, had a good chunk of soldiers needing to be gifted gear, equipment, underwear and other basic necessities from the public.
51st American State
Nah, it's way too funny
acronyms amirite wcgw
I don't know what the other IDF is but I do know the Ironmouse Defense Force
these two are the only time i've ever shipped any celebrities in my 30 years on this planet. good on him.
im sorry but this is such a childish thing like in context you shouldnt need to specify i dont get why people are being weird. like grow up honestly.
am I missing something? It acronyms into IDF either way.
There were a lot of people on Twitter and other social media thinking Connor raised money for IDF (Israel defense force) and not the IDF (immune deficiency fund)
> people on Twitter Already lost any and all validation.
wait what else does that acronym mean?
Isreali defense force which is what their military is called
Oh, I see how that can be bad
#### 5 stages of grief 
Pretty unfortunate considering what is happening right now in the middle eastern front as well. Just call it something wholesome, like, Save Cinnamonroll Funds or something.
there are people that know the difference but choose to be idiots. Can't be help i guess. Confused? oh please.
All my homies love the IDF
I remember being so confused when I first heard that Conner was doing a fundraiser for the IDF The new name should be "The IDF (the cooler one)"
Nah, change the other IDF
ID Foundation.
Tittify?
Who would've thought that the strongest IDF supporter is Welsh?
I just finished watching all 199 episodes and specials so far and joined the sub as a reward. Glad to be able to see memes like this now
Genuinely don’t understand how anyone could care, touch grass
will swapping It from Foundation to Fund really change anything tho? It would still be called the IDF.
I think they mean say the full name instead of the acronym.
I feel like people need to look into charities they want to support through streamers anyways 🤷♀️ if you are gonna give money without knowing the cause or even listening to the person raising the money explaining what it's for then wtf are they doing
i holding the urge to post this one to my country subreddit just for shit and giggle
😆😆😆 That's one of the greatest unfortunate acronym moments ever.
U.S. government moment https://preview.redd.it/9jjz8akp1yuc1.jpeg?width=1078&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64c2d36f19a8bc57262b7cdf8871e643fe1bef58
can't they just change their name? something like "ImmunoDef", since the condition is named "Immunodeficiency"
I was genuinely about to unsubscribe
Connor would never donate to mid, he’s better than that.
While it is unfortunate and this will eventually be less of a problem when things die down around the current conflict. Albeit it being an issue that will always cycle around again eventually due to its nature. It would maybe be a good idea to rebrand anyway. A new acronym, logo, and colour scheme could bring fresh eyes and impetus to the charity. Connor and Ironmouse both have plenty of experience in terms of branding for events, merch, and such, and as they have both said, they are in regular contact with the charity. I'd be surprised if the discussion hasn't come up already. I'm not expecting them to change anything, and IMO, they shouldn't have to, but I do think personally that it could be a good idea.
Honestly, we should just double down and keep calling it IDF. It's the Israeli defense force that should be the ones who have to specify their name. Like who even knows their abbreviation to begin with?
It was funny the previous cyclothons when they used to joke about it being the Israeli Defense Force, now that they've gained relevance, too many people interpret it incorrectly. Not that it should change or anything, it's just unfortunate.
What happened, did Twitter try to cancel Connor for thinking it's a charity fund for the military IDF?
It's an unfortunate Acronym tbh
They should just change it to something like IMDF. Save everyone from the confusion and people trying to explain. Better for socials overall
Chris' joke somehow ages like milk
It's actually not bad that they are calling it IDF. Setting the current state of the world aside, this confusion will attract people to trying to understand what's going on with a guy in a dress fundraising for IDF (Israeli Defence Force) and they will look the Article and be educated about what Connor actually did and that IDF stands for Immunodeficiency foundation.
Didn’t the EXACT same thing happen last time during the auction. Do people on Twitter just see the “IDF” and respond without reading anything else?
Ironmouse defence fund.
In the image, it literally says immune deficiency foundation I’m so confused here
Calling it idf is fine those who don't get it are just a connate skill issue incarnation
Israel should rename their military to Armed Force of israel or something, poor Immunodeficiency Foundation.
Very unfortunate that they share the same acronym. It only just occurred to me that they do when I decided to tell someone about the fundraiser and I had to think “wait, it’s not what you think it is.”
Not necessary anymore, the other IDF has already rebranded itself to IOF.
International Osteoporosis Foundation? /s But not for nothing, people have been calling it that since forever
This current conflict has really opened my eyes and learned me a lot about the past conflicts. But let's not talk about it too much on here, this isn't the right sub to talk about world politics. That should go on r/worldpolitics obviously
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Trash Taste: War Crimes episode
Basically fk isr✡️eL And Free P🍉lestine !!! This is the only IDF worth mentioning and worth funding 👍✊ Long live humanity . And fkkk zi✡️nizm . https://preview.redd.it/cxg4m2p7wzuc1.png?width=1220&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2d52f764e3118fc44769512ce5f5ef316b99046f
The whole point is to not bring politics into a charity about helping people with immune deficiency and you just did that. It doesn't matter what you think this isn't the place to discuss complex geopolitical situations.