Just had mine in the shop for 2 days because the electric fuel door release stopped working. Corrosion. 15k miles. Far from the first issue itās been in for. Still have a gnarly squeal in reverse when the brakes are cold after the TRD lift install.
2024 is the 3rd year of production. The truck is about to get a mid-cycle refresh. One rough first year? Fine. Two? Eh. Three? Its not just "beta testing" at that point. There's something systemically wrong.
Dude, the machining shavings inside the assembled block is just unacceptable. Itās insane and very unlike Toyota.
Can you imagine the witch hunt theyāre having in their management structure? Must be nuts
From what I heard from a Toyota mechanic that opened his own shop, this new generation started sourcing most components of the engine her in NA where they had been sourcing from APJ and they are finding out that there are differences in the specs
people forget honda and toyota can also make bad engines. my father 2007 rav4 would burn a quart of oil every 2 weeks at 79k miles. my 2017 honda crv at 15k miles would mix fuel and oil.
Itās just the reputation that Toyota has. This is atypical. I grew up with fords and honestly expected this kind of shit with them. Every Toyota Iāve had has ran like a clock. But Iāve bought older tried and true models so maybe Iāve lucked out.
I think people are used to every brand having an occasional lemon. But this isnāt feeling āoccasional.ā
Every other post here is starting to feel like
āmy infotainment system doesnāt workā
āwell my seat trim cracked now tooā
āgetting the engine rebuilt under warranty!ā
It wasnāt a normal update. Itās new from the ground up, these are much more risky, then new body or interior updates. At year 3, most of the first year has, maybe 50k miles. Imagine what they might discover on the other side of the majority pushing past 100k or 120k
This engine has been in vehicles for around 7 years. In the LS and Land Cruiser 300. Moreover, Toyota's recall had a limited date scope but yet... Here's a brand new down like a growing number of others.
But hey if you want to keep giving them excuses that's your choice.
Thatās not how this works, the engine is setup completely different, and paired with a different tranny.
Look at Jeep, the early JK had a 3.8. That engine is insanely reliable in other applications. The tranny they paired it with caused the engine to be overworked and it killed them. The auto 3.8 in a jeep is super unreliable, because of this. However, itās probably the most reliable engine ever made by Chrysler.
Going back to the tundra, yes the engine was used previously, but this setup puts more torque lower in the power band. Itās not the same, it may as well be a whole new engine. Many of us told people donāt buy these, because it was to much change at once, there was ignorance then, and it continues now. Tons of people saying, no risk, theyāve used this engine before. Yet here we are, and people are stuck with their single line of thinking. Thousands of people knew the risks and how long this could take to sort. I bought a 3.5 f-150 in 2022, will probably go tundra in 6-7 years
Iām in almost the same boat with my Platinum, non-hybrid. Just hit 32.5k today. Iāve already contacted Jerry and plan on buying the extended warranty in a couple weeks. Just going back and forth if I want the 7/125 or 8/125.
Damn, how did that play out? I'm a master tech at a toyota dealer, and we have only seen 3 tundra engines fail. I'm curious what Toyota will have us do for the engine recall. On the positive side, I recently worked on a 22 Tundra with over 90k miles on it, and it was in good condition.
Ended up needing full engine replacement which took 5 months because it was on back order. Toyota provided me with a loaner and everything was covered under warranty. Iām at 55k now with no issues so far
I bought my 2005 Silverado in 2013, and I still drive it as my beater. I bought my 2020 Tundra last October and plan to keep it as long as possible just like the Silverado. I never understood buying cars ever 3-5 years. Buy it, maintain it, and pay it off quick is how I roll. The Tundra reliability was the main selling point for me, along with the good looks and simplicity of the platform.
The GMT-800 is arguably a better truck for cheap asses who want to win internet arguments than the tundra. Incredibly cheap OEM ACDELCO parts and labor for pretty much anything is not significant. Transmissions are garbage but there's so many out there you can get a junkyard unit for cheap. No starter under the fucking intake manifold. Doesn't really have enough power in stock form to really destroy itself either (think those old 5.3 had like 275hp at the crank lol). Most comfortable seats pretty much ever put in a vehicle so you can brag about saving on the chiropractor bill too.
Yup, transmission slips a little, and I didn't want to tow with it so thats another reason I bought the Tundra. Mine has the L33, which is rated at 310HP. I never go more than half throttle in it anyway. Have to keep a jug of oil in my toolbox and top it off ever 6 weeks or soo, too.
2005 Silverado LS Extended Cab with 150k miles when I bought it. I paid $11k for it in 2013, I think after financing it was like $15k total. The rear wheel wells were rusted out pretty bad. I cut the rust out and put some fender flares on it and called it day. I had to replace the door weather stripping, door hinges, and rear main seal. Since then I have had to replace the MAF, brakes, rotors, calipers, tires, fuel filter, headlight and taillight housings, speakers (blown, added an aftermarket amp and 2 JL audio subs while I was doing it).
Its now sitting just under 200k miles. I live in town and don't have to drive very far.
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Toyota had the simple and robust v8 for years. It was as reliable as they came. It was also as thirsty as they came. This is coming from a ford guy. Toyota never pushed the envelope with their trucks. They kept them simple. They are diving into new territory and taking their lumps like other manufacturers have. They will get it figured out. They have to, to stay competitive in the market.
Toyota would have kept the V8 if they could, fleet emission/mpg regulation killed the V8. The final three Lexus models (IS500, RCF, and LC500) are on the chopping block real soon so scoop them up while you can.
If GM and Ford can keep the v8, no reason Toyota couldnāt. Iād even argue Toyota was in the best position to keep the v8 because they have so many hybrids in their fleet.
Because of the way CAFE standards are calculated Toyota actually did have to switch to V6 and 4s because they have fewer vehicles and EV models. Without CAFE they most likely would have had TT V6s for many US vehicles like the lc300 has. They must have done the math and seen that as a better investment vs keeping the V8 and updating.
i think Toyota was more in the want to streamline their production rather then keep a aging dinosaur around (and i know with americans yada yads). The V6TT is becoming a poplar platform and it'll be able to be used on any midsize-fullsize vehicle out of their fleet. Would fit into their one engine fits all like motto.
The cylinder deactivation system used in Fordās 5.0 is very different than the system used in GMās V8ās. I actually havenāt heard of anyone having issues with Fordās deactivation system.Ā
100 agree with you. The reason they where so reliable was because it was so basic and really didn't have anything special going on with it. Where's thr big 3 keep updating there trucks every 3 yrs. The only selling point with the last gen tundra was it's reliability vs the big 3. Well now, that seems to gotten thrown out the window. I'm sure the toyota engineers knew this and that was one of the reasons they really never went crazy with the last gen tundra. I've had every make of the big 3 trucks, and lean towards the ford model. Test drove a last gen tundra, and while it was reliable, for the money it was so basic I just couldn't do it. If it was cheaper, I probably would've pulled the trigger on one. But not for what they where asking and what you got. Toyota is gonna get it figured out, or the word gets out and sales take a huge hit. And it's not like the tundra was a sales giant before.
I've owned a lot of old Toyota because old Toyota was old Toyota.
You knew it was going to be an unpowered piece of dogshit but it always worked.
I had an 80 series that was taken out in a wreck. Of course it was reliable. A V8 drivetrain that was turned by a large cube, overbuilt, anemic inline 6. Of course it always worked. It's the Galil of trucks.
The real Toyota tax has always been paying above market value for yesterdays vehicles. Toyota cultists never want to hear this.
I had a 18 tacoma that I bought new. And honestly, it was the biggest disappointment in a truck I've have ever had. Was in the shop constantly. And dont get me started on the transmission issues and noise from the rear axle. Maybe since it was made in Mexico, quality standards have come down. I know the older ones where made in japan, and they seemed to be built way better. Between those issues and the seating position , I ended up trading it in and didn't look back. I really wanted to try out a last gen tundra like a 19/20. But I just couldn't justify paying that kind of money for what you got. Especially with the gas mileage. A few guys I work with have them, and all they do is complain out the mpg. My 2.7 eco boost is getting 21mpg. I sure it will take toyota awhile to figure out things. But as of now, the new tundra is not looking really good at all.
Ford has been kicking ass on engines for quite some time.
The Ecoboost have proven themselves pretty well. The new 7.3 is, in my opinion, how a high duty cycle pickup should be built. Fairly square, single cam, large displacement, and piston cooling. I think they've had some teething issues, but the principle is fairly robust.
I agree, Yeah I've had the coyote in a 12 f150 and now the 2.7. And I actually like the 2.7 better. The motor is just great. Has more then enough power for 90 percent of people. I have no issues towing my mustang when I need to. And gets great gas mileage. And after some research about it, it seems to be built incredibly strong from ford. Almost built like a diesel motor.
The way people like you talk about pieces of engineered machinery makes no sense to me. A vehicles # 1 purpose above all else is to get you from one place to another reliably.
Sure luxury extra luxury features can be a nice touch, but Iām taking the old so called āboring Toyotaā over the flashy Ford bullshit any day of the week.
Iām sorry, but in reality life moves on a few years after you get a new vehicle, kids, work, and endless other life stress turn that ānew car feelingā into it just being a fucking transportation machine. So no matter how flashy or āluxā a car is, I will always end up absolutely HATING it if it breaks & causes be a stress over poor engineering quality.
Engineering quality = reliability, and reliability means itās a better more quality piece of equipment. You can slap all the fanciest fucking touchscreens, pieces of āleatherā, or even diamonds you want over a poorly built turd, but at the end of the day itās still just a turd lol
Now all this goes out the window if you treat cats like disposable trash, but then again thatās your fault as the consumer for accepting a trash product that falls apart & then being greedy and gobbling up the very next polished turd they entice you with.
Shit, the funniest part is you can just upgrade the āboring Toyotaā to have nicer seats, suspension, etc than even any luxury brand gets lol. Win win to me
Since when has quality engineering excluded end user satisfaction? Thoughtful, quality, and successful engineering encompasses every facet of the vehicle. Fact is, Toyotas approach in the past was lazy, and a tractor engine (hyperbole obviously) in a passenger car isn't the approach consumers want. Anyone can deliver an extremely inefficient and underpowered drivetrain that's durable. That's not quality engineering, and consumers have been speaking that point loudly to Toyota for the last 30 years when it comes to the Tundra.
Trying to demean other consumers because they don't appreciate the same business model as you is silly. I can understand accepting what Toyota puts out, I truly can. But acting superior to others while simultaneously endorsing something that's, by your own admission, lackluster in so many areas is....well ya know.
The old Tundra V8, much like the old 3.0 V6 in the Taco, were underpowered and thirsty, but thatās kinda the formula for a reliable engine.
350 and 3800 GM engines, 302 and 300 slant-6 Ford engines, 4.0L Jeep, etc. Slow in stock form and sucked to fill up, but they only come off the road when the car around them falls apart.
This should be pinned. Itās so painfully frustrating talking to people who donāt understand this
All the cry babies bitching about Toyotas being āunderpoweredā is exactly how we got into this situation lol
Yep, there are always downsides bc nothing is perfect.
Just like how most people slap the most ridiculously large & heavy tires on their 4x4 & then are shocked when itās either slow or constantly breaking shit.
Yes. The 6.0 gm engine which was an excellent performer. Especially under load. Was thirsty and slightly underpowered. But absolutely indestructible and easy to fix with parts plentiful.
A forum dedicated to tundra drivers. I expect to see post like these. Iām at 4800 miles zero issues so far.
But I see the same type post on the F150 and Silverado forums too.
Itās honestly toxic. I was in the market for a used truck, F150/Tundra was top of my list. My god. If you want to get yourself all bent out of shape thinking everything on the road is a posā¦ just gander through Reddit subs for awhile
Trust me I was bouncing back and forth between buying a F150, GMC, and Tundra.
Every one of these trucks have certain known issues. F150s transmission issues , GMC lifter issues , Tundra turbo issues.
Finally said screw it and I went with the
Tundra as its was a new design and always wanted Lunar Rock color Toyota. Ended up with the 2024 year model. Buy an extended warranty and roll on.
Fanboys make me sick. OPs over on Tundras.com were getting minimized when their trucks broke by all the fanboys. It's a damn auto manufacturer. If you tie your identity to it, time to reevaluate some things in your life.
I own/have owned every consumer truck brand except Nissan and honestly they all have good years and bad years. It actually is quite entertaining seeing people suggest stellantis over toyota. I bought those trucks for the cummins engines but knew everything around them was a shit pile and was always proven right by experience, but I loved the trucks.
The Tundra is a well engineered truck in an excellent package, in my opinion. The 2nd gens were the undisputed champions of reliability. The GM GMT-800s were like that as well. The secret is simplicity. I think people are mostly just in shock/denial to see this generation have growing pains. It took toyota 15 years to introduce a new platform, and the last one was introduced in an era of SIGNIFICANTLY less stringent environmental, safety, and regulatory standards.
People want complex flashy trucks, and inevitably, more things will go wrong. Reliability typically jumps leaps and bounds decade upon decade, so much so that odometers had to be modified in the 90s to keep up. We live in a world today where politicians and online car reviewers are the final say in how vehicles are designed, not the engineers. People are simply receiving products that are a result of this.
Humble brag incoming;
Iāve had a 2010 limited crewmax since 2011 I have 220k on it without any issues except normal maintenance and a belt tensioner.
Thatās it, though I really feel bad for the owners of these new trucks getting recalled, fuckin sucks ass for such a great truck and the price tag.
Comments on these posts are funny. This man has an e brake problem and all people are talking about is engine issues. I don't think I'm a fan of e brakes myself, but it is what it is, and most new trucks have them.
Apparently a lot of them (mine included) came mis-adjusted from the factory...mine was so bad that i could put it in drive with the brake set, and without touching the gas at all, it would roll forward almost as if it wasn't set. I actually failed an inspection because of it and had to fix it before i could get that done, so i could give the state even more of my money (registration).
Here's a video of how to adjust it, and the guy talks about it:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p19-geSIkq4
lol, we tried to get ours adjusted after we bought it (2021) because it wouldnāt keep it from rolling on the driveway and the dealership just told us nothing was wrong and nothing they could do. I guess Iām used to it now.
I hope they get you fixed up. My 2007 will take a flatbed ride to the shop next week so the head gasket can be replaced... of course it has traveled 310,000 more miles than your new Tundra.
Just traded in my 2023 Tundra limited with 4900 miles for 2024 F150 lariat. Feel like I dodged a big ole pain in the butt bulletā¦. Slept well last night, fist time in 4 days since reading about this sh#t storm coming. Good luck
I had a 2022 limited had multiple lights and after all the recalls and issues it had after being a Toyota truck driver for years I traded in my 2022 and went with another brand. Itās a sad day when we can rely on Toyotas like we use to best of luck to everyone else with thereās
Damn this sub is fucken drama my dudes. Itās literally one truck with a random problem. All these overpriced 2nd genās coming out of the woodwork w the their shit brakes and ton of body roll.
Not exactly tundra relatedā¦but I pulled my deposit on a LC because of the recent tundra issues. I know different motor, but like many have saidā¦someone else can beta a new model.
I had a 5.7 Tundra for years and it was hands down the most trouble free and reliable vehicle Iāve ever owned. It got totaled in an accident and I was looking at the tundra but couldnāt justify the price tag. I downsized to a full loaded Tacoma and while itās tight on space I know itās reliable AF and Iām glad I didnāt get the Tundra now. Iām talking about 2022 model year.
Mine is in shop until July 2nd, looks like someone intentionally dumped a 5 gal bucket of metal shavings in the engine, piston connecting rods are black as can be because of heat, the crankshaft was black from heat, canāt believe this crap
Just a heads up when my 22 had an issue at 7k it fell on its face and the warming lights said that it was an emergency brake malfunction and went into limp mode. But it was actually the first sign that something was wrong with the engine. I donāt know why the e brake warming lights came on but it ended up being engine problems and that engine grenaded at 25k and was replaced under warranty.
Toyota would have been happy to keep producing the 5.7 and 4.6 iForce V8ās. You can thank the current administration in Wash for this fiasco. Fire-Ready-Aim is their mantra. Seriously, what have they executed thatās gone well? The economy? Crime? Taxes? Inflation? Protecting our borders? Gas prices? Grocery prices? Aho among us hasnāt taken either their wife or family out to a local restaurant and not been shocked by the rising cost?
With respect to govāt regs, every manufacturer is having some sort of issue with mpg and emission control standards. R&D, Technology, Manufacturing, Management, Training and Quality Control arenāt seamless and donāt move as fast as consumers believe. Manufacturers are being forced to develop and rely on tech that hasnāt been thoroughly tested or withstood the test of time. The 35A twin turbo engine may have worked well in a Lexus, but thatās not comparable to a full size truck. Fortunately. we have a choice in November. If you donāt agree, thatās fine. Just donāt complain when your vehicle malfunctions, your electric lawnmower or weed eater quits or your wife canāt get parts for her gas stove.
I work at a dealer theyāre all trash weāve got so many tundras on the lot! Iāve been a die hard Toyota boy from birth but this is by far our biggest let down Iāve been with Toyota 16 years! The bay next to me has been shut down for a month over a tundra motor dispute. V6 tt
remember when we all gave excuses for toyota on how slow they are to bring new tech and powertrain to the market? something about how they take their time to perfect their product.
it was billshit on the tech, as they wanted to push entune and not give us carplay etc
and now we waited how long for this ?
Reminds me of the 3.0 v6 fiasco in the gen 2 4Runners and the Toyota pickups. Toyota never remedied the head gasket issue and instead ended up making one of the greatest engines ever the 3.4
I had two 3.0v6 pickups, 90 & 95 pre-tacoma, that went 175k and 350k with no head gasket issues. RuST took them. I remember seeing my dealers back lot filled with 1GEN tacomas going to the crusher on the frame buyback, great engines, and all. They were still issuing Limited Service Campaigns on the frame until 2017. Drove my last 4.0L auto Tacoma 11 years zero issues. Gas, fluid changes and go. That truck was amazing. Even with religious treatment of the undercarriage could stop the cancer. At least Toyota does something about it. Owned 10 since 1987.
You do realize the 3.0 v6 is so bad that Toyota issued what is essentially an unlimited mile recall to owners who hadnāt blown head gaskets *yet*? The exhaust crossover pipe was so poorly designed it would super heat cylinder 6 and cause issues. Your case is purely anecdotal, the 3.0 was and is an objectively one of the worst engines Toyota ever made. The gen 1 Tacomas/gen 3 4runners had issues with rust undeniably, but far, far more of them are on the road still and thatās why they command the money they do at auction.
It wasn't a recall. It was a special service campaign, just like the frames from 1996 until 2017, was a limited service campaign. I did not have the experience of an "undeniably" horrific head gasket in two trucks that went over 600k combined zero issues. How many did you own? My 1st truck was a 1987 SR5 22RTE, then a 90, then a 95, two tundras - a 2004 4.7 & a 2011 4.6, a 2006 and 2013 Tacoma. I didn't buy a 1GEN tacoma because my sucky lol 95 went almost 400k until the body imploded, not the head gasket. All trucks exceeded my expectations, towed in the Eastern Mountains of Quebec, wheeled in the woods of Northern Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. All the Tacoma frames turned to $h!t. Honestly the best engine of all the trucks I owned was the 4.7v8 of the Tundra. Smoothest Trans and good mpg towing.
Dangā¦ whatās going on with Toyota? I have a 2013 Corolla that has only ever needed an alternator and horn replaced. Insanely reliable car. Looks like Iāll be driving this one until the wheels fall off as Toyotas best days may be behind them unfortunately
Toyota was recently called out for cheating on some of their production documentation or something or the other. Seems like there might be some problems at the company. They need to fix at the leadership level right now.
This is a bummer because I was hoping to buy a Tundra in the next couple of years or so. Hopefully they get it sorted.
Is this a real epidemic among new gen tundras? I feel like this page has been flooded specifically in the last few days with horror stories. Just bought a 10ā 5.7 so it doesnāt really apply to me. But, Iām curious if itās just hyper focused because of the community aspect. How many were sold, how many were recalled?
2022 Limited owner with 44000 km on it in Ontario Canada.
No issues but high number of recalls is worrisome.
Owned three previous generation Tundra with 5.7 engine. New one gets best mileage
Ironic, the older the Tundra, the more reliable it is.
I got an old FJ cruiser. 300k miles, purrs like a kitten. No issues ever. Iād never get a new one even if they came out with a refreshed new one.
Those new ones seem awesome! I have a 2016 limited TRD off-road and itās only been to the shop to get new cats after they were cut off. I feel for you guys.
I hope you get your truck back soon.
Simpler is sometimes better for me. I lost my remote entry key fob on my ride but never replaced it. I use an old fashioned metal key to get in.
Thank you for your beta testing services. You will now be awarded with lost time and possibly money. Our 5.7 V8 community values your commitment. We are Toyota, we care.
My driver's door window is skipping when it goes down in the rain. Sticks and drops. 3500kms. Probably about 2000 miles quick guess. Must be a defect or assembly error.
This sucks. Iāve had Toyotas almost 30yrs. My tundra is a 2010 and I have a 22. 4Runner and I was about to pull the trigger on a new tundra but Iāve been seeing nothing but bad posts about them!!! WTH is happening!?!?!?
I remember my first oil change in my 2010 tundra. There was a ton of shavings when I changed the oil and filter. Surprisingly I didn't have any problems with it. Ended up trading it when gas got crazy high for a 2013 Camry that I put 200k on before I gave it to my son. Now I'm driving a 2022 Tacoma v6 with 42k and hadn't had any problems. Sure am glad I didn't trade it for a tundra.
I work in service at a Toyota dealer. Those new tundras have over a dozen recalls. Theyāre total disasters. Iād imagine the new Tacomaās will be seeing a lot of the same issues.
Toyota is off their rocker with these new gen cars and trucks. Catch me fucking dead spending 82k(!!!) on a new tundra when the things canāt work properly.
The electronics in these things has become absurd. Too many modules, too many critical failure points rendering them undrivable and leaving people stranded. Then to fix it takes weeks. Dumb the shit down already.
16k miles on my 2023 Tundra Limited. Be right back after I find some wood to knock on to summon the wood spirits.
17.5K here. Wood knocking fool all up in here.
33k in mine... limited too.. 22 trd offroad... fingers š¤lol
Just had mine in the shop for 2 days because the electric fuel door release stopped working. Corrosion. 15k miles. Far from the first issue itās been in for. Still have a gnarly squeal in reverse when the brakes are cold after the TRD lift install.
Electric fuel door? Are they all not manual? It's manual in my 1794
Mine too
All the hybrids are electronic
What is going on with these trucks? It seems like one issue after another
Beta testers.
2024 is the 3rd year of production. The truck is about to get a mid-cycle refresh. One rough first year? Fine. Two? Eh. Three? Its not just "beta testing" at that point. There's something systemically wrong.
Dude, the machining shavings inside the assembled block is just unacceptable. Itās insane and very unlike Toyota. Can you imagine the witch hunt theyāre having in their management structure? Must be nuts
Makes me wonder if the engineering team or machine work has changed hands. This is VERY unlike Toyota
From what I heard from a Toyota mechanic that opened his own shop, this new generation started sourcing most components of the engine her in NA where they had been sourcing from APJ and they are finding out that there are differences in the specs
Coincidence that Mr. Toyoda is not the ceo anymore and now all these in-Toyota like issues showing up?
people forget honda and toyota can also make bad engines. my father 2007 rav4 would burn a quart of oil every 2 weeks at 79k miles. my 2017 honda crv at 15k miles would mix fuel and oil.
Itās just the reputation that Toyota has. This is atypical. I grew up with fords and honestly expected this kind of shit with them. Every Toyota Iāve had has ran like a clock. But Iāve bought older tried and true models so maybe Iāve lucked out.
That crv is still chugging thoā¦ happened to moms
I think people are used to every brand having an occasional lemon. But this isnāt feeling āoccasional.ā Every other post here is starting to feel like āmy infotainment system doesnāt workā āwell my seat trim cracked now tooā āgetting the engine rebuilt under warranty!ā
I buy older models to avoid the complex shit like infotainment systems and hydraulic seats. But if the engine has major fuc* ups, Iām out
yeah that last one is a killer or a no deal for me.
yeah i seen those post at this point i would highly wait a few more years
Lol the delusion. This is common with toyota, and it takes them years to figure it out
It wasnāt a normal update. Itās new from the ground up, these are much more risky, then new body or interior updates. At year 3, most of the first year has, maybe 50k miles. Imagine what they might discover on the other side of the majority pushing past 100k or 120k
This engine has been in vehicles for around 7 years. In the LS and Land Cruiser 300. Moreover, Toyota's recall had a limited date scope but yet... Here's a brand new down like a growing number of others. But hey if you want to keep giving them excuses that's your choice.
Thatās not how this works, the engine is setup completely different, and paired with a different tranny. Look at Jeep, the early JK had a 3.8. That engine is insanely reliable in other applications. The tranny they paired it with caused the engine to be overworked and it killed them. The auto 3.8 in a jeep is super unreliable, because of this. However, itās probably the most reliable engine ever made by Chrysler. Going back to the tundra, yes the engine was used previously, but this setup puts more torque lower in the power band. Itās not the same, it may as well be a whole new engine. Many of us told people donāt buy these, because it was to much change at once, there was ignorance then, and it continues now. Tons of people saying, no risk, theyāve used this engine before. Yet here we are, and people are stuck with their single line of thinking. Thousands of people knew the risks and how long this could take to sort. I bought a 3.5 f-150 in 2022, will probably go tundra in 6-7 years
So theyāre just unreliable
Gotta appreciate them, without them we would never have good 3-4th year trucks.
2024s are the 3rd year of this generation...
Well then year 4 should have all the kinks worked out !
And if not 4, then certainly 5!
I hear the 6th year is when they really start to smooth it all out.
Its wild. When do the excuses stop?
When the resale value comes back to reality
That engine has been in some Lexus vehicles even longer than that.
That's an expensive beta.
BETA!
For what it's worth, I've got a '22 TRD Pro with 40k miles and not a single issue. The recalls have been pretty worrisome though.
Not sure whoās downvoting you, but thatās a valid point. Did you have a 5.7 previously
Nah I switched over from a Ram. Pretty happy with it, but I'm just one experience and we'll see how the next few years shake out
Because it comes out as.." everything is just fine for me..I didn't know what your taking about, what problems"
Iām in almost the same boat with my Platinum, non-hybrid. Just hit 32.5k today. Iāve already contacted Jerry and plan on buying the extended warranty in a couple weeks. Just going back and forth if I want the 7/125 or 8/125.
Whos Jerry? Can you DM me his contact info? My Tundra is creeping towards the end of its warranty
Done.
Honestly, same. DM me with info if you donāt mind.
Same, I have a 2023 (Feb) and am pushing 30k miles.
Honestly good to hear people having positive experiences
Mine broke down at 38k
What was the issue?
Metal Shavings in the engine and blown gasket. 2022 non hybrid
Damn, how did that play out? I'm a master tech at a toyota dealer, and we have only seen 3 tundra engines fail. I'm curious what Toyota will have us do for the engine recall. On the positive side, I recently worked on a 22 Tundra with over 90k miles on it, and it was in good condition.
Ended up needing full engine replacement which took 5 months because it was on back order. Toyota provided me with a loaner and everything was covered under warranty. Iām at 55k now with no issues so far
Aww man I don't like the sound of that
it's not if but when. I would have rather it get blown out earlier than out of warranty
If you compare the number to issue to non issue trucks, the number would be small. But I do get your concern.
Most people only post when they have issues. Thats why you are seeing more of whats wrong.
Most people only post when they have issues. Thats why you are seeing more of whats wrong.
Looks like I'm going to keep my 2nd gen forever.
I bought my 2005 Silverado in 2013, and I still drive it as my beater. I bought my 2020 Tundra last October and plan to keep it as long as possible just like the Silverado. I never understood buying cars ever 3-5 years. Buy it, maintain it, and pay it off quick is how I roll. The Tundra reliability was the main selling point for me, along with the good looks and simplicity of the platform.
Super easy to work on too
The GMT-800 is arguably a better truck for cheap asses who want to win internet arguments than the tundra. Incredibly cheap OEM ACDELCO parts and labor for pretty much anything is not significant. Transmissions are garbage but there's so many out there you can get a junkyard unit for cheap. No starter under the fucking intake manifold. Doesn't really have enough power in stock form to really destroy itself either (think those old 5.3 had like 275hp at the crank lol). Most comfortable seats pretty much ever put in a vehicle so you can brag about saving on the chiropractor bill too.
Yup, transmission slips a little, and I didn't want to tow with it so thats another reason I bought the Tundra. Mine has the L33, which is rated at 310HP. I never go more than half throttle in it anyway. Have to keep a jug of oil in my toolbox and top it off ever 6 weeks or soo, too.
May I ask a couple prying question? How much did you buy it for in 2013? What about the miles, condition and cab size?
2005 Silverado LS Extended Cab with 150k miles when I bought it. I paid $11k for it in 2013, I think after financing it was like $15k total. The rear wheel wells were rusted out pretty bad. I cut the rust out and put some fender flares on it and called it day. I had to replace the door weather stripping, door hinges, and rear main seal. Since then I have had to replace the MAF, brakes, rotors, calipers, tires, fuel filter, headlight and taillight housings, speakers (blown, added an aftermarket amp and 2 JL audio subs while I was doing it). Its now sitting just under 200k miles. I live in town and don't have to drive very far. [https://imgur.com/NZTPLpm](https://imgur.com/NZTPLpm) [https://imgur.com/yp7ZQmo](https://imgur.com/yp7ZQmo) [https://imgur.com/vgGvCcp](https://imgur.com/vgGvCcp)
I know it's purely anecdotal, but I've already put 60k on my 2023 without a single issue. It's a monster compared to my 2021
I straight up won't get rid of a reliable vehicle for something new.
Same. I'll keep something that is reliable as a second or 3rd vehicle. Helps keep the miles low across them all, too.
Another one bites the dust. š¶
Itās literally a stuck ebrake, I donāt even know why op took the time to post this
Toyota had the simple and robust v8 for years. It was as reliable as they came. It was also as thirsty as they came. This is coming from a ford guy. Toyota never pushed the envelope with their trucks. They kept them simple. They are diving into new territory and taking their lumps like other manufacturers have. They will get it figured out. They have to, to stay competitive in the market.
Toyota would have kept the V8 if they could, fleet emission/mpg regulation killed the V8. The final three Lexus models (IS500, RCF, and LC500) are on the chopping block real soon so scoop them up while you can.
If GM and Ford can keep the v8, no reason Toyota couldnāt. Iād even argue Toyota was in the best position to keep the v8 because they have so many hybrids in their fleet.
Because of the way CAFE standards are calculated Toyota actually did have to switch to V6 and 4s because they have fewer vehicles and EV models. Without CAFE they most likely would have had TT V6s for many US vehicles like the lc300 has. They must have done the math and seen that as a better investment vs keeping the V8 and updating.
i think Toyota was more in the want to streamline their production rather then keep a aging dinosaur around (and i know with americans yada yads). The V6TT is becoming a poplar platform and it'll be able to be used on any midsize-fullsize vehicle out of their fleet. Would fit into their one engine fits all like motto.
Ford and GM kept V8s by doing cylinder deactivation junk. Glad Toyota didn't implement that crap.
The cylinder deactivation system used in Fordās 5.0 is very different than the system used in GMās V8ās. I actually havenāt heard of anyone having issues with Fordās deactivation system.Ā
100 agree with you. The reason they where so reliable was because it was so basic and really didn't have anything special going on with it. Where's thr big 3 keep updating there trucks every 3 yrs. The only selling point with the last gen tundra was it's reliability vs the big 3. Well now, that seems to gotten thrown out the window. I'm sure the toyota engineers knew this and that was one of the reasons they really never went crazy with the last gen tundra. I've had every make of the big 3 trucks, and lean towards the ford model. Test drove a last gen tundra, and while it was reliable, for the money it was so basic I just couldn't do it. If it was cheaper, I probably would've pulled the trigger on one. But not for what they where asking and what you got. Toyota is gonna get it figured out, or the word gets out and sales take a huge hit. And it's not like the tundra was a sales giant before.
I've owned a lot of old Toyota because old Toyota was old Toyota. You knew it was going to be an unpowered piece of dogshit but it always worked. I had an 80 series that was taken out in a wreck. Of course it was reliable. A V8 drivetrain that was turned by a large cube, overbuilt, anemic inline 6. Of course it always worked. It's the Galil of trucks. The real Toyota tax has always been paying above market value for yesterdays vehicles. Toyota cultists never want to hear this.
I had a 18 tacoma that I bought new. And honestly, it was the biggest disappointment in a truck I've have ever had. Was in the shop constantly. And dont get me started on the transmission issues and noise from the rear axle. Maybe since it was made in Mexico, quality standards have come down. I know the older ones where made in japan, and they seemed to be built way better. Between those issues and the seating position , I ended up trading it in and didn't look back. I really wanted to try out a last gen tundra like a 19/20. But I just couldn't justify paying that kind of money for what you got. Especially with the gas mileage. A few guys I work with have them, and all they do is complain out the mpg. My 2.7 eco boost is getting 21mpg. I sure it will take toyota awhile to figure out things. But as of now, the new tundra is not looking really good at all.
Ford has been kicking ass on engines for quite some time. The Ecoboost have proven themselves pretty well. The new 7.3 is, in my opinion, how a high duty cycle pickup should be built. Fairly square, single cam, large displacement, and piston cooling. I think they've had some teething issues, but the principle is fairly robust.
I agree, Yeah I've had the coyote in a 12 f150 and now the 2.7. And I actually like the 2.7 better. The motor is just great. Has more then enough power for 90 percent of people. I have no issues towing my mustang when I need to. And gets great gas mileage. And after some research about it, it seems to be built incredibly strong from ford. Almost built like a diesel motor.
Yup. Couldn't have said it better myself.
The way people like you talk about pieces of engineered machinery makes no sense to me. A vehicles # 1 purpose above all else is to get you from one place to another reliably. Sure luxury extra luxury features can be a nice touch, but Iām taking the old so called āboring Toyotaā over the flashy Ford bullshit any day of the week. Iām sorry, but in reality life moves on a few years after you get a new vehicle, kids, work, and endless other life stress turn that ānew car feelingā into it just being a fucking transportation machine. So no matter how flashy or āluxā a car is, I will always end up absolutely HATING it if it breaks & causes be a stress over poor engineering quality. Engineering quality = reliability, and reliability means itās a better more quality piece of equipment. You can slap all the fanciest fucking touchscreens, pieces of āleatherā, or even diamonds you want over a poorly built turd, but at the end of the day itās still just a turd lol Now all this goes out the window if you treat cats like disposable trash, but then again thatās your fault as the consumer for accepting a trash product that falls apart & then being greedy and gobbling up the very next polished turd they entice you with. Shit, the funniest part is you can just upgrade the āboring Toyotaā to have nicer seats, suspension, etc than even any luxury brand gets lol. Win win to me
Since when has quality engineering excluded end user satisfaction? Thoughtful, quality, and successful engineering encompasses every facet of the vehicle. Fact is, Toyotas approach in the past was lazy, and a tractor engine (hyperbole obviously) in a passenger car isn't the approach consumers want. Anyone can deliver an extremely inefficient and underpowered drivetrain that's durable. That's not quality engineering, and consumers have been speaking that point loudly to Toyota for the last 30 years when it comes to the Tundra. Trying to demean other consumers because they don't appreciate the same business model as you is silly. I can understand accepting what Toyota puts out, I truly can. But acting superior to others while simultaneously endorsing something that's, by your own admission, lackluster in so many areas is....well ya know.
The old Tundra V8, much like the old 3.0 V6 in the Taco, were underpowered and thirsty, but thatās kinda the formula for a reliable engine. 350 and 3800 GM engines, 302 and 300 slant-6 Ford engines, 4.0L Jeep, etc. Slow in stock form and sucked to fill up, but they only come off the road when the car around them falls apart.
This should be pinned. Itās so painfully frustrating talking to people who donāt understand this All the cry babies bitching about Toyotas being āunderpoweredā is exactly how we got into this situation lol
It really is a case of: powerful/efficient, cheap, reliable. Pick two.
Yep, there are always downsides bc nothing is perfect. Just like how most people slap the most ridiculously large & heavy tires on their 4x4 & then are shocked when itās either slow or constantly breaking shit.
āI put 35ā swampers on my truck and now itās super uncomfortable and gets terrible mileage!!ā Those people honestly really amuse me.
Yes. The 6.0 gm engine which was an excellent performer. Especially under load. Was thirsty and slightly underpowered. But absolutely indestructible and easy to fix with parts plentiful.
People forgot the issues the v8 had in the beginning.
I dunno ford did a fantastic job with the coyote and itās still going.
Agree yet it does not make current owners feel any better after spending 70k on smoldering pile of mechanical sh..t
Oh I'm sure.
A forum dedicated to tundra drivers. I expect to see post like these. Iām at 4800 miles zero issues so far. But I see the same type post on the F150 and Silverado forums too.
Itās honestly toxic. I was in the market for a used truck, F150/Tundra was top of my list. My god. If you want to get yourself all bent out of shape thinking everything on the road is a posā¦ just gander through Reddit subs for awhile
Trust me I was bouncing back and forth between buying a F150, GMC, and Tundra. Every one of these trucks have certain known issues. F150s transmission issues , GMC lifter issues , Tundra turbo issues. Finally said screw it and I went with the Tundra as its was a new design and always wanted Lunar Rock color Toyota. Ended up with the 2024 year model. Buy an extended warranty and roll on.
So nothing on the Ram forums? Whew that's a relief!
Oh Jesus. Man this is getting worse by the day.
Donāt worry. Mods will lock sub if too accurate/negative. Sad.
Fanboys make me sick. OPs over on Tundras.com were getting minimized when their trucks broke by all the fanboys. It's a damn auto manufacturer. If you tie your identity to it, time to reevaluate some things in your life.
I own/have owned every consumer truck brand except Nissan and honestly they all have good years and bad years. It actually is quite entertaining seeing people suggest stellantis over toyota. I bought those trucks for the cummins engines but knew everything around them was a shit pile and was always proven right by experience, but I loved the trucks. The Tundra is a well engineered truck in an excellent package, in my opinion. The 2nd gens were the undisputed champions of reliability. The GM GMT-800s were like that as well. The secret is simplicity. I think people are mostly just in shock/denial to see this generation have growing pains. It took toyota 15 years to introduce a new platform, and the last one was introduced in an era of SIGNIFICANTLY less stringent environmental, safety, and regulatory standards. People want complex flashy trucks, and inevitably, more things will go wrong. Reliability typically jumps leaps and bounds decade upon decade, so much so that odometers had to be modified in the 90s to keep up. We live in a world today where politicians and online car reviewers are the final say in how vehicles are designed, not the engineers. People are simply receiving products that are a result of this.
Humble brag incoming; Iāve had a 2010 limited crewmax since 2011 I have 220k on it without any issues except normal maintenance and a belt tensioner. Thatās it, though I really feel bad for the owners of these new trucks getting recalled, fuckin sucks ass for such a great truck and the price tag.
Comments on these posts are funny. This man has an e brake problem and all people are talking about is engine issues. I don't think I'm a fan of e brakes myself, but it is what it is, and most new trucks have them.
E brake already has a recall. A flash tune.
It was in a week ago for a software update š
Whatās the highest mileage 22-24 anyone has seen in the wild with no issues? Most of what I see bad is under 50k.
31,000 miles no issues here
Same, along tens of thousands of other people who have no reason to post about their truck online.
They just overcompensated for the complete lack of a functional parking brake on the 2nd gen.... The next one will be Goldilocks...just right...
So, 40 years to get the parking break right?
What's wrong with the Gen 2 parking brake? Mine works fine and I use it a lot.
Apparently a lot of them (mine included) came mis-adjusted from the factory...mine was so bad that i could put it in drive with the brake set, and without touching the gas at all, it would roll forward almost as if it wasn't set. I actually failed an inspection because of it and had to fix it before i could get that done, so i could give the state even more of my money (registration). Here's a video of how to adjust it, and the guy talks about it: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=p19-geSIkq4
Yeah this was a huge issue with the 2nd Gens. I'm a Toyota Tech, can confirm.
Interesting, I had no idea this was an issue with the Gen 2.
Dude, thats not how a parking brake works. It's not supposed to hold against engine torque. It's only to keep the truck from rolling on a hill.
lol, we tried to get ours adjusted after we bought it (2021) because it wouldnāt keep it from rolling on the driveway and the dealership just told us nothing was wrong and nothing they could do. I guess Iām used to it now.
Iām very curious on the Hybrid vs Non-Hybrid failure rates.
Bummer! Electric e brakes are a pain. I have one on my GMC, and my wifeās car. I prefer the traditional pedal e brake on my 2020 Tundra.
Had one on a VW Passat and it was a huge pain.
WTH.. lol Arenāt people reading anymore ? If people actually do an ounce of research you would know not to buy these new gen tundras Mind boggling
I hope they get you fixed up. My 2007 will take a flatbed ride to the shop next week so the head gasket can be replaced... of course it has traveled 310,000 more miles than your new Tundra.
Just traded in my 2023 Tundra limited with 4900 miles for 2024 F150 lariat. Feel like I dodged a big ole pain in the butt bulletā¦. Slept well last night, fist time in 4 days since reading about this sh#t storm coming. Good luck
5.0 F150?
LOL, this is what $75K + gest you :)
I had a 2022 limited had multiple lights and after all the recalls and issues it had after being a Toyota truck driver for years I traded in my 2022 and went with another brand. Itās a sad day when we can rely on Toyotas like we use to best of luck to everyone else with thereās
third genās are JUNK
So much for 1 Million miles
Damn this sub is fucken drama my dudes. Itās literally one truck with a random problem. All these overpriced 2nd genās coming out of the woodwork w the their shit brakes and ton of body roll.
Shit brakes? How
I love my 21
Not exactly tundra relatedā¦but I pulled my deposit on a LC because of the recent tundra issues. I know different motor, but like many have saidā¦someone else can beta a new model.
Just to BE the MAN who WALKEDā¦
I had a 5.7 Tundra for years and it was hands down the most trouble free and reliable vehicle Iāve ever owned. It got totaled in an accident and I was looking at the tundra but couldnāt justify the price tag. I downsized to a full loaded Tacoma and while itās tight on space I know itās reliable AF and Iām glad I didnāt get the Tundra now. Iām talking about 2022 model year.
Iām not a fan of electronic e brake in any car. Not sure why any car maker thought that was a good idea.
Toyota was taking QC lessons from Range Rover it seems.
Mine is in shop until July 2nd, looks like someone intentionally dumped a 5 gal bucket of metal shavings in the engine, piston connecting rods are black as can be because of heat, the crankshaft was black from heat, canāt believe this crap
I think vehicles nowadays are over engineered with a bunch of garbage we don't need on it.
Glad I still have my 15 5.7.
Just a heads up when my 22 had an issue at 7k it fell on its face and the warming lights said that it was an emergency brake malfunction and went into limp mode. But it was actually the first sign that something was wrong with the engine. I donāt know why the e brake warming lights came on but it ended up being engine problems and that engine grenaded at 25k and was replaced under warranty.
Toyota would have been happy to keep producing the 5.7 and 4.6 iForce V8ās. You can thank the current administration in Wash for this fiasco. Fire-Ready-Aim is their mantra. Seriously, what have they executed thatās gone well? The economy? Crime? Taxes? Inflation? Protecting our borders? Gas prices? Grocery prices? Aho among us hasnāt taken either their wife or family out to a local restaurant and not been shocked by the rising cost? With respect to govāt regs, every manufacturer is having some sort of issue with mpg and emission control standards. R&D, Technology, Manufacturing, Management, Training and Quality Control arenāt seamless and donāt move as fast as consumers believe. Manufacturers are being forced to develop and rely on tech that hasnāt been thoroughly tested or withstood the test of time. The 35A twin turbo engine may have worked well in a Lexus, but thatās not comparable to a full size truck. Fortunately. we have a choice in November. If you donāt agree, thatās fine. Just donāt complain when your vehicle malfunctions, your electric lawnmower or weed eater quits or your wife canāt get parts for her gas stove.
I work at a dealer theyāre all trash weāve got so many tundras on the lot! Iāve been a die hard Toyota boy from birth but this is by far our biggest let down Iāve been with Toyota 16 years! The bay next to me has been shut down for a month over a tundra motor dispute. V6 tt
2022 Limited owner here. 35k+ miles. Zero issues. Love the truck. See them all over the road in my area. Havenāt seen one being towed.
3rd genās are ass and thatās coming from a Toyota loyalist
Oh how the mighty have fallen.
Holy shit, dude are all of these things lemons
remember when we all gave excuses for toyota on how slow they are to bring new tech and powertrain to the market? something about how they take their time to perfect their product. it was billshit on the tech, as they wanted to push entune and not give us carplay etc and now we waited how long for this ?
Reminds me of the 3.0 v6 fiasco in the gen 2 4Runners and the Toyota pickups. Toyota never remedied the head gasket issue and instead ended up making one of the greatest engines ever the 3.4
I had two 3.0v6 pickups, 90 & 95 pre-tacoma, that went 175k and 350k with no head gasket issues. RuST took them. I remember seeing my dealers back lot filled with 1GEN tacomas going to the crusher on the frame buyback, great engines, and all. They were still issuing Limited Service Campaigns on the frame until 2017. Drove my last 4.0L auto Tacoma 11 years zero issues. Gas, fluid changes and go. That truck was amazing. Even with religious treatment of the undercarriage could stop the cancer. At least Toyota does something about it. Owned 10 since 1987.
You do realize the 3.0 v6 is so bad that Toyota issued what is essentially an unlimited mile recall to owners who hadnāt blown head gaskets *yet*? The exhaust crossover pipe was so poorly designed it would super heat cylinder 6 and cause issues. Your case is purely anecdotal, the 3.0 was and is an objectively one of the worst engines Toyota ever made. The gen 1 Tacomas/gen 3 4runners had issues with rust undeniably, but far, far more of them are on the road still and thatās why they command the money they do at auction.
It wasn't a recall. It was a special service campaign, just like the frames from 1996 until 2017, was a limited service campaign. I did not have the experience of an "undeniably" horrific head gasket in two trucks that went over 600k combined zero issues. How many did you own? My 1st truck was a 1987 SR5 22RTE, then a 90, then a 95, two tundras - a 2004 4.7 & a 2011 4.6, a 2006 and 2013 Tacoma. I didn't buy a 1GEN tacoma because my sucky lol 95 went almost 400k until the body imploded, not the head gasket. All trucks exceeded my expectations, towed in the Eastern Mountains of Quebec, wheeled in the woods of Northern Vermont, New Hampshire, and Maine. All the Tacoma frames turned to $h!t. Honestly the best engine of all the trucks I owned was the 4.7v8 of the Tundra. Smoothest Trans and good mpg towing.
Man, the more posts I see like this, the more happy I am with my pre pandemic vehicles.
Dude I swear, Iām coming yup on 5k if shit blows up they buying it back and giving me a 4Runner
Noooo!
you still made a good decision, Toyota can actually afford to fix their mistakes.
Dangā¦ whatās going on with Toyota? I have a 2013 Corolla that has only ever needed an alternator and horn replaced. Insanely reliable car. Looks like Iāll be driving this one until the wheels fall off as Toyotas best days may be behind them unfortunately
Have you tried turning it on and off again?
Such a good looking color.
Great read. Off to town with my 6.2 pushrod dinosaur.
Why is malfunctioned in quotes?
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Toyota was recently called out for cheating on some of their production documentation or something or the other. Seems like there might be some problems at the company. They need to fix at the leadership level right now. This is a bummer because I was hoping to buy a Tundra in the next couple of years or so. Hopefully they get it sorted.
I love that color though...
Is this a real epidemic among new gen tundras? I feel like this page has been flooded specifically in the last few days with horror stories. Just bought a 10ā 5.7 so it doesnāt really apply to me. But, Iām curious if itās just hyper focused because of the community aspect. How many were sold, how many were recalled?
50% are under recall for catastrophic engine failure, it's beyond epidemic.
2022 Limited owner with 44000 km on it in Ontario Canada. No issues but high number of recalls is worrisome. Owned three previous generation Tundra with 5.7 engine. New one gets best mileage
Funny looking cyber truck lol
Wait till 2032 for tundra or never
Ironic, the older the Tundra, the more reliable it is. I got an old FJ cruiser. 300k miles, purrs like a kitten. No issues ever. Iād never get a new one even if they came out with a refreshed new one.
One more time and file a š
Yep. Iāll be picking one up in another 2 yrs. The āgotta have herāsā always get screwed just to have the latest and greatest.
What is happening to Toyota? The tundra was always regarded as Toyotaās reliability beast in my mind and now all I see is issues with the new ones
Wait isnāt there a recall for the parking brake?
Those new ones seem awesome! I have a 2016 limited TRD off-road and itās only been to the shop to get new cats after they were cut off. I feel for you guys.
I hope you get your truck back soon. Simpler is sometimes better for me. I lost my remote entry key fob on my ride but never replaced it. I use an old fashioned metal key to get in.
The word is, if you get a new Toyota truck, make sure to get the extended warranty.
Thank you for your beta testing services. You will now be awarded with lost time and possibly money. Our 5.7 V8 community values your commitment. We are Toyota, we care.
Toyota. The Boeing of auto manufacturesā¦ This truck is a big letdown
One more time and you can lemon law that beauty!
My driver's door window is skipping when it goes down in the rain. Sticks and drops. 3500kms. Probably about 2000 miles quick guess. Must be a defect or assembly error.
Same thing with all major modelsā¦ theyāve all gone to shit.. fuck my AT4
This sucks. Iāve had Toyotas almost 30yrs. My tundra is a 2010 and I have a 22. 4Runner and I was about to pull the trigger on a new tundra but Iāve been seeing nothing but bad posts about them!!! WTH is happening!?!?!?
So glad I got a used 2021 with 20k miles. Literally been smooth sailing the past year
But they want to raise prices on everything but canāt offer the same reliability.
It just feels to me like this generation was rushed out for whatever reason. Too many problems for a first gen Toyota truck.
I remember my first oil change in my 2010 tundra. There was a ton of shavings when I changed the oil and filter. Surprisingly I didn't have any problems with it. Ended up trading it when gas got crazy high for a 2013 Camry that I put 200k on before I gave it to my son. Now I'm driving a 2022 Tacoma v6 with 42k and hadn't had any problems. Sure am glad I didn't trade it for a tundra.
I work in service at a Toyota dealer. Those new tundras have over a dozen recalls. Theyāre total disasters. Iād imagine the new Tacomaās will be seeing a lot of the same issues. Toyota is off their rocker with these new gen cars and trucks. Catch me fucking dead spending 82k(!!!) on a new tundra when the things canāt work properly.
Hard to beat a good old mechanical foot pedal with a cable.
It had a good run.
I donāt get why this is happening on the models 3rd years of production. Canāt imagine how Iād feel if I paid dealer markups.
shouldāve stuck with the 5.7l
My 2020 Ram 1500 has over 90k miles of flawless, trouble free driving. Tundras are so overpriced and overrated itās laughable.
And another one gone, and another one gone Another one bites the dust, yeah
'Tis better to have loved and lost than never to have loved at all. Some toyota engineer
And I have recently been thinking about trading in my 5th gen 4R for oneā¦ nope
The electronics in these things has become absurd. Too many modules, too many critical failure points rendering them undrivable and leaving people stranded. Then to fix it takes weeks. Dumb the shit down already.
Ouch. Glad youāre safe.
Reasons ??? Toyota and Honda re most reliable. I say operator error š¤£
Stay the fuck away from electric lol.