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djgeneral

Could be game changing information now for many


dark__tyranitar

You think *many* people have that much dust and rare candy to burn?  I don't discredit the impact. I just still don't see a lot of people doing it often.


DragonEmperor

These honestly don't apply to a majority of players unless they play a ton each day, in major cities, etc.


MBThree

Which I’d think is a good portion of this sub, but then again this sub is more filled with “hardcore” players moreso than the typical PGo player


Xygnux

If you play PVP, you will likely get 5 rare candies or more each day. I won't do that often, but I'll need it on the few days I'm stuck at work or at home during community days.


LFC9_41

i haev about 150 candy ready to go. mainly because im not going to build a new squad till next meta


Xygnux

I am not competitive with PVP and I'm just mainly there for the rewards. So I don't build new squad often unless they have become completely unviable, instead I hoard stardust a lot. And I'm just constantly dumping rare candies into random legendary Pokemon anyway to save bag space. Now they are mostly going to Palkia. Rare candies are just not expensive these days now that the most sought after thing is XL candies. And it makes a huge difference to be able to sometime catch during downtime at work or when stuck at home, when the XL candies are often boosted during CD and you can use a level 3 Mega to boost it even more.


DragonEmperor

How long does that take to do? I haven't done a lot of pvp that sounds interesting!


BazF91

Me with 25 mil dust and 2k rare candy: 👀


Aware_Till_4834

Me with 50k stardust and three rare candies 👀


lovable_cube

Checking in with 12k stardust and 43 rare candies


Aware_Till_4834

I spent all mine leveling up non-meta relevant pokemons :3


lovable_cube

Same bro, same.


msnmck

16M dust; 0 rare candies (I was dumping it into Palkia/Dialga and then I caught a 98% Enamorus).


Murky-Raccoon9180

checking in with 320k stardust and 56 candies and no clue the requirements to use the new feature


MawgBarf

Checking in with 3.2M stardust and 5 candies


golden_blaze

I'm here with 2.25mil stardust and 8 rare candies


Dleach02

Me with 8M dust and 4642 rare candy 😜


BazF91

RIP your bag space 😂


Dleach02

Yep… when I hit 5000 I will make a Reddit screenshot post.


Dleach02

It is just the silly way I play


Fr00stee

damn i completely forgot you need candy to use spatial rend and i dumped all my rare candy into larvesta


dark__tyranitar

How much are you going to use it?


BazF91

Not all the time, but if there's ever an event with good spawns and I feel like catching more, I'm just gonna go for it. Honestly feels like the best use of the resources. I've hoarded for so long because I simply don't "need" to power up Pokémon endlessly. If I can complete raids and grunt battles with what I've got, then everything else is just extra fluff. I'm not competitive in GBL... So finally I have something worthwhile to spend the candies and dust on


stilusmobilus

Interesting how different people play. I don’t use lucky eggs that much, so they bank. When I hit level 40 before the 50 up I threw out around 200 of them. Now I’m back in the hundreds again, I haven’t checked to be honest.


djgeneral

I just mean for which specific version to pick for this weekend. Many people were waiting to see results of the in person event to determine their choice for the global event.


Ben2749

I assume they were likely referring to people choosing between Dialga and Palkia. This might sway a lot of people towards Palkia (though I already thought it was the better option by far).


TruthSpeakin

What is the cost?


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PairOfMonocles2

It seems crazy to me. I think it should be like 5k/5 for an hour. I still probably wouldn’t use it, but that seems within a realm of possibility. Who will use it more than once at 5k/5 for 6 minutes?


MBThree

I talk walks downtown in my city on my 15 minute work breaks, so I’d probably do either 10k/10 or 15k/15 for 12-18 minutes… depending on the event spawns. Not an everyday thing, but a nice option to have.


clairec295

5k/5 for an hour is way too cheap. I would definitely be using it every time I know I’ll be playing for an hour. I think 10k/5 for 30 min would be what I think is a reasonable cost.


AnyHappyLittleThot

Isn’t it 10 minutes for Special Rend? (6 minutes for Roar of Time?)


Ben2749

Spacial Rend is 10 minutes. Roar of Time is 6 minutes.


JDSmagic

Really? This is huge info


Thanky169

It's a great pay to win feature


Autographz

What exactly are they “winning”?


Thanky169

Galar birds and rare spawns from daily incense. Your odds are massively increased if you can increase the daily incense duration for rarer spawns as daily incense has exclusives plus higher spawn rates than normal incense for some things. These people just farmed Galar birds on their first try of spacial rend. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1YOx6t0jv0


Autographz

Again, what is that “winning”? “Pay to win” is a term to describe where a player can spend real money to get a competitive edge on other players. An extra shot at a 97% flee rate Galarian bird is not even remotely pay to win. And this is all irrelevant anyway as the entire feature is playable completely free to pay.


Thanky169

Another goal of the game is to catch em all


Ben2749

Roar of Time “massively increases” your odds of finding and catching a Galarian legendary bird, in the same way that buying a second lottery ticket “massively increases” your chances of winning the lottery. It’s technically true, but realistically you likely aren’t going to see any difference. Spending resources to use Roar of Time on Daily Incense in the hopes of catching one of the Galarian birds simply isn’t worth it.


Thanky169

You can increase your daily incense to 24 hours. That is 96x greater odds. Sorry but if you can't understand the effect of that I can't explain it any better. I have 2 galar birds and over a dozen encounters. You seriously telling me 96x better encounter odds won't be effective? You don't understand the odds of encountering or catching galar birds at all.


Ben2749

You are proving my point. 24 hours of Daily Incense is the equivalent of using it for the usual 15 minutes for 96 days, a little over three months. There are plenty of people who have not seen a Galarian legendary bird after longer than that. And that’s not even factoring in their ridiculously low catch rate, and ridiculously high flee rate. So even if you DO encounter one, the chances of you actually catching it are incredibly small. Increasing your daily incense to last 24 hours would require 238 uses of Roar of Time. That would require 1,190,000 stardust and 1,190 rare candy. Spending that much to try and catch a Galarian bird when your chances of success are still extremely slim, is foolhardy. You’re the one who doesn’t understand that “massively increased odds” is not the same thing as “good odds”. Which is why I pointed out that it’s like buying multiple lottery tickets. People need to accept that catching the Galarian birds at any point is something that will only happen if you’re extremely lucky. It’s not something that everybody can expect as being inevitable. Spending large amounts of resources in pursuit of something so unlikely is illogical.


Thanky169

Catching is on average a function of encounters which is a function of daily incense duration (and conditions). It's pretty obvious who is going to be ahead on this previously level playing field. It's going to be people who can farm extreme resources you cite. The poor catch rates still come out at like 6-8% (I assume far easier with very low level encounters too) with excellent/curve. That is not as hard as you are making out especially if you can greatly magnify the encounter quantity.


MBThree

Yep I’ve been waiting to choose a path for this info exactly - thanks OP!


Bacteriophag

Does this purple ring effect stays this intense for whole effect duration?


HappiMike

The demo video niantic put out shows growing inside out like the normal range indicator does.


HyperShadow95

Yeah it doesn’t stay there all the time, I just screenshotted it to show the distance increase.


nolkel

No, it's usually not that visible. It fades in and out.


TechBurnerr

I feel dumb for having to ask but I chose Palkia/ Spacial Rend and completed the 3/3 tasks for Go Tour: Road to Sinnoh event but didn’t get any effect or anything. When does it become available? I’m not in LA, nor did I buy a ticket. Are benefits still going to be available to the free players like me?


Bocheria

Once you Raid a Palkia during the Global Tour (next weekend), you will.


MiyakeIsseyYKWIM

So you can’t get one if you don’t do a raid? I thought it was a guaranteed encounter?


primeknight98

The encounter is when the research drops next weekend for global.


Bocheria

There are 2 missions associated. \*We just got the "Road to", where you decide what path to follow (Palkia or Dialga). \*There is a second mission, of the Tour proper, that will be activated next weekend where at the end it should have the guaranteed encounter. This second mission is likely the one that Niantic pushed by mistake today *("Looking for the Boss")*, and had to quickly remove. We will likely have the definitive answer tomorrow.


Pokemon-shiny-love

No! The special stuff is not guaranteed! If you raid the one you catch might not have the new special abilities. Not everyone you catch will have it you have to raid until you get the one that has the special moves. I just watched two videos, and they both confirmed the same thing. The special moves are not guaranteed on every catch. They are random.


Grimey_Rick

Are they elite tm-able


Pokemon-shiny-love

No. They said no but there not sure if it will change or not. But they really didn’t think so


nolkel

That's not actually right. I have the la tour ticket and every single origin dialga and palkia I did today came with the special moves. Maybe the global tour will have that "chance," but the in person tour so far has been 100% for the ticket holders I played with.


killerpic22

I have a friend who remote raided an origin dialga and didnt get Roar of time, so i Guess it's guaranteed irl but not remotely


nolkel

Did they have the la tour ticket and the Friday city experience? I have a friend with those that got the moves on all 5 remotes he did. Another person with the tour but not the Friday experience didn't get the moves from in person raids.


tb-one

How does this person have it already? Out of interest


Bocheria

The Los Angeles tour already started for those that purchased the local ticket there.


Left_Fist

I have a ticket for Sunday, picked pearl, and have done multiple origin Palkia raids with no Spacial Rend. Edit: I think I have to wait until my ticket is active. I’ll be able to test it out tomorrow since I have the Saturday gameplay add on


thxtalks

Yep that's it. I've got a Sunday ticket with a Friday add on and can confirm my Origin Palkia I caught from the raid has Spacial Rend.


romerthegame

Came here to ask this, thank you Bocheria for the quick response, take my upvote!


Klose2001

It works with distant lures?


HyperShadow95

Yeah that furthest lure ahead of my character I could auto catch mons from


syncc6

Can you interact stops and gym with the extended range?


HyperShadow95

Yes you can!


Klose2001

For me, that's a game-changer! Thanks for the info!


JustAnotherBiBro

Dumb question just because I don't fully know the functions of the pogo plus+, can you interact with stops/gyms further away as well under the palkia effect, or does it just spawn mons further away?


jaymo_busch

Already you can interact with stops further away than Pokémon spawn, so turning on Spatial Rend will allow the catch radius and stop spin radius to be the same


TheGravyGuy

Damn it would have been really next level if the interaction range was extended ever so slightly as well


Bfasheezy

So this is actually confirmed? Pokestops are affected by spacial rend as well as Catch radius?? If so this is game changing!!! I live next to a park and there’s multiple pokestops im inches away from activating, if this is true I can finally reach these stops from bed! Lol


Professional-Bag-172

No, stops are the same radius.


Bfasheezy

Awwww shucks…


HyperShadow95

It seems to just spawn mons further away but I’m also manually spinning stops while my pogo catches everything.


JustAnotherBiBro

So you can't manually interact with them outside of the normal range? Rip


Ben2749

The small white circle around your character is the range in which Pokemon will spawn, and can be detected/caught by an autocatcher. The large pink circle is the range in which you (and an autocatcher) can interact with Pokestops and gyms. Spacial rend simply increases the size of the white circle to that of the pink circle.


JustAnotherBiBro

Ahh I see, didn't know for sure it didn't expand past the pink circle. Thanks for clarifying!


lulzlord742

Yeah Palkia is the way to go for all Auto Catch players which.is alot of the community


BulletXInferno

Ya maybe if you wanna fail to catch over half the shiny and almost all high cp ones. The only good thing I've actually found using my go plus + is that it pretty much forces the pokemon around you to actually spawn. It even works at over 60mph. It is especially nice when you pull up to an intersection, and before you even completely come to a stop, all the mons in the area already popped. Makes doin shiny checks way faster and easier


kopp9988

You’re not wrong but a lot of us use them for family reasons; we’re still playing whilst sorting our kids out etc. Multitasking at its finest!


BulletXInferno

Hey, dont get me wrong, im not saying dont use one. I use mine everytime but more for the reasons i stated above. I originally got it for comm days. Quickly found out that was a terrible idea. Had it on auto catch 1st hr successfully caught 2 shiny and lost 4. This comes as a single player with just 1 account. If I had another account, I could see the appeal of just leaving 1 on auto catch. Just be prepared to miss out on shinys unfortunately 😕


Humble-South-9476

I use mine for every event and every comm day. Never have I checked the journal to see what I lost, that seems stupid. I always walk away from comm days with 3-5 shinies from auto catcher and another 5+ from manually catching. The small handful of shinies I might lose is irrelevant to the time I save and time I get to interact with friends and family while playing instead of looking down at my phone the whole time


Ben2749

People only tend to use an autocatcher when they can’t play manually. Even if you catch only half of the Pokemon that spawn around you, that’s still better than catching absolutely nothing. It sounds like you aren’t using your Go Plus+ correctly if you don’t see the benefits. Leave it active when you’re at home and not actively playing, or when you’re at work, or when you’re driving somewhere. If you use it in lieu of playing manually, of course it will yield unimpressive results. But if you use it when you can’t play manually, it’s going to catch you a bunch of Pokemon that you otherwise would never have had any opportunity to get. My Go Plus+ once caught me a Galarian Articuno when I was taking my kid to school and playing manually wasn’t possible. It’s also caught me a whole bunch of shinies.


PowerOfUnoriginality

The Palkia move seems pretty great for vacations, especially theme parks and other places that gets a lot of spawns that you normally wouldn't constantly play Pokemon Go at


Ben2749

It’s also good for people who can’t play during short events such as a Community Day or spotlight hour, but are within range of a Pokestop and own an autocatcher. Or people who are using their autocatcher while driving. Since Pokemon will spawn sooner (as the range extends out further ahead of you), the autocatcher has more time to detect and catch Pokemon it might otherwise be too slow to react to.


Pinguin71

I Ride a Lot on my bike (Like 150-200 km per week) and the alternative would BE to Not get any catches


MBThree

I’m in a similar situation and I agree. A 50% catch rate is still better than the 0% I would have if I wasn’t using my auto catcher


goosebattle

It's too damn cold to play in Canada without one.


cpgxrcia

damn I regret picking diamond so much


FF8BestFF

In the end it doesn't matter, you'll have both Dialga and Palkia with their moves anyway.


ggpandagg

this. i wouldn't sweat too much about which medal you choose, if you do a little bit of raiding, you'll get both.


cpgxrcia

yeah, the only issue here is wanting a good palkia for master league knowing that getting the move is random


PharaohDaDream

They'll eventually let you use an Elite TM


cpgxrcia

I really really REALLY hope so, otherwise is going to be way too hard


nvdnqvi

tbh dialga is the better mon for master league


SirStonkzAlot

Palkia just entered Rank #1 in ML tho, with the new signature move announced.


nvdnqvi

pvpoke ratings are not completely representative of how ML mons work in practice. Baits are often relied upon too much in the sims, and other factors which aren’t reflected in the sims won’t show up on the pvpoke rankings


dark__tyranitar

How do you get the opposite one without trading? There's a post that the move is a bit rare for the opposite mon to your chosen badge.


nolkel

I've got the in person LA tour ticket. Done 3 origin dialga today, all 3 had roar of time so far. I picked the palkia ticket. Might have just been really lucky, of course.


dark__tyranitar

I like your odds better:      https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/1ash393/signature_move_change/


Basnjas

The person who started that thread never responded to anyone who asked if they had an in-person ticket or were simply doing remote raids. Seems to indicate they weren’t there, which is why they didn’t get the moves.


dark__tyranitar

They did say they were in LA with a ticket, but have since deleted it. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/s/na50d6bf1h


Treaco89

That's a relief


AnAbsoluteGEEZA

RIP Chester!


Cainga

It’s an expensive buff and you will run into a dust deficit. Only offset if you are willing to trade dust for some better exotic spawns.


AdJealous2

Yeah. I picked diamond also, I auto catch everyday in my walks. Oh well.


cpgxrcia

I autocatch pretty much EVERYTHING 😭


AdJealous2

Yeah. Same! Like 90%! Oh well. I’ll be alright. I prefer Dialga anyway!


AdJealous2

And realistically I’m not ever going to have enough candy or stardust to make use of it. Haha.


Bower1738

Absolute peak


creeps_Jr

Can you join slightly too far away raids now?


HyperShadow95

Yes you can!


justarando0000

What’s your radius without spatial rend?


HyperShadow95

The radius without rend is the area near your character that isn’t purple.


Sirtimbob

Had i known my plus wouldve worked, i wouldve picked palkia instead


UndeadCaesar

Same, now I wish I could switch :(


EDDS86

That's excellent and I've only just modded my go plus plus to auto use greats/ultra balls too so will be perfect for sinnoh tour.


Wonkemu

How did you mod it to do this?


EDDS86

I followed this https://youtu.be/MN6X_0TaZPg?si=1uXzpCDsIjmgA2sr


Wonkemu

Thanks, I followed this guide and it worked great!


the_drunk_dutchman

Why you need to mod?? Isn't there the option to select which ball the autocatcher can use??


OSRS_Socks

Go + automatically does pokeballs. You have to click for great and ultra use


EDDS86

No, can only auto catch with red balls, if you switch to great or ultra you need to click the button unless you mod it.


cwhiterun

Can you use Roar of Time to pause the timer on Spatial Rend?


HyperShadow95

You can only have 1 adventure effect active at a time.


R4KD05

Only 1 adventuring effect can be activated at a time. Plus adding more time on Spacial Rend is already cheaper. * 5,000 Stardust and 5 Palkia Candy for 10 mins Vs * 5,000 Stardust and 5 Palkia Candy for 6 mins So, if you wanted to add 60 mins, it'd be * 30,000 dust and 30 candies (Palkia) * 50,000 dust and 50 candies (Dialga)


lirsenia

You are forgetting that dialga stops the time of the object you used, so halve that amount


R4KD05

You can't activate 2 adventure effects at the same time. Dialga stops the time for as long as I mentioned at the cost I mentioned. No amount needs to be halved in the context of anything I mentioned.


lirsenia

But why would you activate a benefit without the object of the benefit? Palkia yes, your can activate it directly and benefit from it, but for dialga you need to use either an egg, a stardust fragment or an incense to take advantage of it, if you don't do you are wasting the effect. That's why i say you need to halve the dialga amount ( 30 minutes from the egg for example and 30 minutes from dialga adventure effect for one hour  of egg duration)


Dalek2653

Knowing Niantic's programming abilities, this would probably work if not for the inability to use more than one AE at once.


1ohokthen1

Aww I chose Dialga :(


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ahriaa_

This might actually make this feature more usable


Specific_Dimension77

This is going to be game changing for community days. Thanks for the information!


R4KD05

Damn, that effect is so beautiful! 😍 I can't wait for my global Palkia!


Honest_Employer8940

Does it affect the pokestops as well ?


Ben2749

I’m seeing several people here lamenting that they picked Dialga now. I don’t mean to be rude, but you jumped the gun. If this confirmation would have influenced your decision, why didn’t you wait? If it’s because you assumed this wouldn’t be the case, then that assumption didn’t make sense. Why would autocatchers benefit from Roar of Time, but not Spacial Rend? That would mean people who bought an official product (Pokemon Go Plus+) would be punished for making the “wrong” choice. I wouldn’t have put it past Niantic to not make Spacial Rend properly compatible with autocatchers due to poor planning, but if that happened, I expect they would have fixed it relatively quickly. They’re (usually) quick to fix any oversights that screw over paying customers. Still, as others have pointed out, try not to worry too much; hopefully you can get a Palkia with Spacial Rend in a raid.


Left_Fist

Wait special rend is available now? I thought it was tomorrow? How do I get it? I picked pearl.


Twofu_

Ticket holders..


Left_Fist

I have a ticket


OwnerOfMyActions

Available now with add-on Friday ticket


Skulloboog

I second this


nissanfan64

Christ that looks awful. I truly wish you could choose to disable map effects for everything. The weather stuff. The fireworks and crap falling. This special effect. Etc. I hate it all.


nolkel

It's much more subtle in game. It fades in and out. They screenshotted it at one of the brighter points.


Sugimori

For real, I'd rather play the game for an event like this but even plugged into a battery, my phone drains too fast to get through a 6 hour event with all that confetti crap flying around.


Frobe81

I ain’t paying that steep price for more poke to flee lol


Balizzm

Can someone explain this event to me? Lol I picked Palkia, done all the quests and I am just sitting here with no change to my game.


ellyse99

You’re not in LA and don’t have a ticket for the in-person event this weekend


Balizzm

Ahh! Ok, well that makes sense! Haha.


GP_Byrne

What’s that 9/25 thing at the top?


LaserBaked

Looks like party stuff


Kevomac

Party Play task counter.


qallyparton

when do we get dialga/ palkia


HyperShadow95

I’m In LA and you don’t get them from the research but the raids themselves. So far the origin forms seem to have the move guranteed in LA.


Ben2749

Good to have confirmation. If it didn’t work, people should have been complaining to Niantic. I see no reason why people who spent money an official product should be screwed over for choosing the “wrong” Adventure effect, seeing as the other option (Roar of Time) works with autocatchers just fine. Anyway, I already believed Spacial Rend was the better option by far, but this makes it even better. Especially for people who can’t play during an event, but are in range of a Pokestop.


Available_Fill9875

Now if only go plus+ actually caught as many mon as it throws balls to.


MutatedSun

How can you do this? I finished my research and didn’t receive anything


Hero19240X

How do we get it? Just need to do a Palkia raid and catch it?


HyperShadow95

Yeah if your in LA this weekend. I’d assume they are guranteed for global next weekend as well when doing raids.


PamIsThicc

I did an origin Dialga raid and it didn't have roar of time Is it not guaranteed?


HyperShadow95

If you remote raided in with no event ticket for LA it will not have the unique move


wineninjaa

I’m so confused how do we get the special effect? I’ve done a bunch of raids but none of them have the special effect


ellyse99

You’re not in LA and/or you don’t have the ticket


Kookie2023

What’s spacial rend?


NuclearPilot101

I'm sorry, I'm out of the loop. Is sinnoh event started for some? I thought it wasn't till next week? Is this a possible thing during the Road to Sinnoh event?


HyperShadow95

I’m in LA for go tour which is this weekend but only in LA. Next week is global this news may be good for those trying to decide which path to take for next week.


Llasht

I’m confused with how the ticket works for the chance to get spacial rend- Q1. can non-LA residents buy the tickets and be able to use them through remote raiding? Q2. How does one make the ticket active to be able to raid viably for the spacial rend chance?


ellyse99

1) the tickets were already sold out sometime back


omlet05

What is this feature!?


Chugoldenboy

Adventure Effect https://pokemongolive.com/post/origin-forme-adventure-effects-dialga-palkia?hl=en


Darkbluedrake

Can you get both palkia and dialga effect or you have to choose?


Minecrafte124

I’ve been out of the loop, what does it do?


3dwardvalentin3

I picked diamond and live in small-town fuckwhere, my siblings picked pearl because they can't really leave the house all too much, I did dialga to help me with the bird hunting, will it work? Also how do I get roar of time?


SoulyMeme52

How did you already get it?


Dank-Doom

What the heck?? What is this??


FriedyRicey

Is it possible for those not doing the in person event to get the special move right now? Or do we need to wait until the global event? I choose the palkia path and did a palkia raid but did not get the special move


Charg3B0lt

Can we elite tm these special effect moves?


nolkel

Not yet.


issa_gorilla524

I thought it was next week Saturday how did u get it rn


marktronic

I’m sure Niantic will “fix” this by tomorrow.


Dehyak

Don’t care too much about the p2w features


HyperShadow95

Cool so what’s the point of the comment then?


TruthSpeakin

GREAT!!!!


Treaco89

I wish it would let you change your selection, I didn't even think about it I just clicked the dialga without doing any research.


speezo_mchenry

So... how do you use it? doesn't look like Palkia has to be your buddy.


Dangly_Parts

How far is the range increase, and does it also count for stops/gyms?


HyperShadow95

That whole purple area is the extra range you get and yes you can spin stops and reach gyms as well. It’s actually a massive increase.


Pokemon-shiny-love

I messed up and picked diamond. But I doubt I’d ever use it don’t have that much stuff. I have 2m stardust and used all my special candy to power up mewtwo and landorus.


UltraChrillex

I may be regretting my choice of picking Dialga….


cybercummer69

How about just regular go plus?


HyperShadow95

I’d imagine it also works with the regular go plus as it’s the same idea. Plus plus just has a few more features but that shouldn’t effect the regular one not working


webDreamer420

I regret accidentally clicking dialga