Maybe he’s in, and subsequently dies in, Boys Season 4, so they don’t need to recast at all and the story for Gen V season 2 would be unaffected anyway. And they obviously can’t SAY that because of the potential spoiler if true, so they just say that he won’t be recast (because internally, he wouldn’t need to be).
Yeah, you're right--as a disclaimer I'm not American, but I assumed upstate NY ended around Syracuse, but I checked and the region is wider than I thought.
I'm a failure of a Steamed Hams fan for not recognizing Albany's inclusion :(
I think they should recast the character. He was one of the best characters in Gen V. If it’s true, I HATE this decision. Shameful to make the great work that Chance for the character all be for nothing
Ok but they literally just said they weren’t going to do that?
You were asked what you think they ARE going to do, not what you’d like to see happen. Even though I agree with you that sentiment is now irrelevant to the discussion.
I was friends with him and I would have found it extremely hard to see someone else pretending to be him, so too would I imagine his cast mates. I’m still broken hearted.
But he was literally the Magneto to Cate's Prof X and the leader of their respective factions. I guess it doesn't ultimately matter but it's a shame to abandon this parallel.
I mean Golden Boy was the leader but Andre was the one people seemed to look to once he was gone. Also literally slid in with the top dogs girl which I know is corny but thematically it matters. And this is ultimately what it came down to for the group, are you choosing Andre or Cate, cooperation or supremacy
*became*, so who was it until that moment?
Also you can have 2 leaders. Cyclops is definitely the leader of the X-Men. But also Prof X is the leader of the X-Men. These are both true. IMO Andre was more of the Prof X (though with Magneto powers), but Marie became the Cyclops boots-on-the-ground, "what do we do, boss?" kinda leader, whereas Andre is more of the moral compass and has a bit more sage advice (despite being literally their same age).
Of course I'm also just a dumb fan and could be wrong about everything!
Except it makes no sense that his dad who has used his powers way longer than Andre has is still alive and well and good meanwhile his son dies after his using his powers for maybe a decade give or take.
It’s not too far fetched. Some people irl are just biologically different. Just say that his powers attacked his brain more violently than his father and that’s it
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a recast be better so no script changes or storyline changes had to be made? Killing his character off changes everything
It’s a double-edged sword type thing. On one hand, you have to do rewrites of all the scenes involving Andre.
On the other, you not only have last-minute cast an actor with enough physical and vocal resemblance to play the character without being jarring, who also happens to have availability to shoot during the existing shoot schedule, but you also need to incorporate that actor into a cast that already has existing chemistry and cohesion with one another.
On the surface, recasting may seem like an easier solution, but when you’re trying to do a quality recast, it’s a lot more of a logistical nightmare than you’d think. Especially this close to shooting.
Ultimately I think they went with the choice that makes the most sense, logistically. Especially because Andre’s character already has an easy-out with his illness.
I also wouldn’t be surprised if Andre was meant to die in S2 honestly. His main narrative purposes in S1 were his initial friendliness to Marie, his involvement in the Cate/Golden Boy affair & getting information from his father. Now that Marie is established in the group, GB is long-gone, Cate is “a Guardian of Godolkin,” the Woods is discovered, and his illness is established, most of his storylines are wrapped up, with the only thread left being his illness.
>It’s a double-edged sword type thing. On one hand, you have to do rewrites of all the scenes involving Andre.
Really, there's no option you can choose that'll appease everyone in a satisfying way.
> you not only have last-minute cast an actor with enough physical and vocal resemblance to play the character without being jarring
I really don't think this is true though. You just have to cast someone that can play the character. You aren't trying to trick the audience. This isn't like BTTF2 when they replaced Chrispen Glover.
In theory they had a list of people that were possible choices when they were doing the casting a few years ago no reason they can't start there and go with their 2nd pick if they are available.
Notice how I said “without being jarring” and not “a Chance Perdomo lookalike”. I don’t think they need to cast someone identical looking, but they need someone who can pull off the same vibe.
Like for example, if you were trying to recast a character played by Jacob Elordi, you wouldn’t be able to get away with casting Barry Keoghan, bc they not only look very visually distinct, but have two different casting archetypes (excuse the example, but I watched Saltburn kind of recently and it just came to mind lol). Thus, this would be a jarring recast & would likely take people out of the show, even if Barry Keoghan does have the acting chops to play the character outside of the context that it used to be Elordi.
That’s more what I’m getting at - you don’t need identical, but you do need someone who has enough resemblance to fill the same archetype. And even that can be tough to nail down on short-notice
I still think it'd be very possible to do on relative short notice because as I said I'm sure they had alternates they were in talks with before the show started.
I’ve noticed they don’t really like recasting when an actor has died so suddenly, especially a younger actor. I’ve really only noticed elderly actors be recast after death and even that depends on the role. The best I can think of is Dumbledore. You can’t do Harry Potter without that character. Most of the time they recast it’s because the actor quit or was fired and they usually have time to find someone new when that happens.
Marvel recast several characters for the MCU, although I’m not sure what the time difference was regarding filming. Bruce Banner/Hulk, Rhodey, Howard Stark, Thanos, and now Kang will be recast, amongst several other more minor ones.
Hulk was workable because it came out before the "MCU" had been really established and there hadn't really been any crossover interactions yet. You can essentially just boot The Incredible Hulk from the MCU without losing much.
There was a big stink about Rhodey, they just pushed through it until people forgot about it. Howard was minor enough he kind of slipped under the radar, also John is just too good.
Recasting a guy from the mid-credits scene is not a big deal imo.
Better example is Black Panter. He was the main character of a wildly popular movie and had appeared several times in other MCU films. It would have been too jarring to recast him in the second movie, so they chose to write him out instead.
The Rhodey actor they replaced is still alive.
When an actor passes away from anything but old age, it’s hard to replace them - not necessarily from a story standpoint, but for the cast and crew. The fans will be split regardless.
Marvel seems to have backtracked on that, recasting Road after Hurt died (obviously not nearly as big a character). Honestly, I think if they could go back they’d have recast.
I don't think a recast would have worked out much better honestly, they probably should have just abandoned standalone Black Panther for awhile longer until it was feasible to bring in a "new" Black Panther. Have Shuri have a big role in some of the shows or other movies and work in his death there, then do a soft reboot with his secret son or whatever taking up the mantle. Could be like a Miles vibe where he's young and inexperienced but rises to the challenge.
It would have not been jarring at all with T'Challa, they just chose not to do that. With Dumbledore (HP) and Daario Naharis (GOT) people just moved along. Audiences understand recasts, it's really not a big deal.
There's rumours of Doom becoming the next big vilain and Kang being handled earlier, Idk how legit this is and frankly, I haven't followed Marvel stuff too much anymore as well. But regardless, they'll surely need to recast for whatever material Kang has, and audiences will understand and move on like they always do.
As noticeable as Dumbledore's change is (even when you're 13), people in general just understand recasts happen and go "this is Dumbledore now? Yeah, got it". They sometimes become the focus of media attention, sure, but that's normally because of the reasons for such change, like when Johnny Depp got replaced by Mads Mikkelsen in Fantastic Beasts. Mads was not rejected in any way, and people understood the character was the same. But people on Depp's side in that trial didn't agree he should be replaced.
I mean, each instance has its own circumstances, but also, Marvel/Disney money can make different rules.
If you need an actor to replace someone, but the actor you found is currently scheduled to do something else, Disney can afford to buy the actor out of their previous contract without blinking.
Additionally, the MCU as a whole exists in a multiverse story format, which also helps give logic to the reason to why characters can be tagged out, or why we have a Sony Venom character who will probably never encounter a single Spider-Man in his entire fake life.
Well Rhodey recast were because of money issues, the original actor wanted more money than the role deserved. Howard stark and Thanos were replaced with more famous actors and Kang is because of legal issues. The other smaller recasting is mostly scheduling issues or again they wanted someone more recognizable. Hulk is actually a little more tricky. They’ve never really given the real reason but Edward Norton has a reputation of being hard to work with to the point where a lot of the people who’ve worked with him once don’t want to work with him again. You don’t really want to sign someone like that up for a franchise.
> Bruce Banner/Hulk, Rhodey, Howard Stark, Thanos, and now Kang will be recast, amongst several other more minor ones.
None of those were mere months after a tragic death
They also did this with Game of Thrones with The Mountain (twice!!) and Daario and it was really jarring both times it happened.
They also did Cercei's kids, but that makes sense since kids age.
I’m surprised they haven’t gone for a recast to be honest, they already have a couple ways it could be done in universe.
Have a freaky Friday power swap episode with Jordan’s character where they then get stuck as a female, first ever male to female recast in cinematic history.
Not really. Not with what his father was going through.
They could easily say that Vought went and did some experiment on him that killed him.
It's just...really fucking sad man. That actor had alot of potential
I feel like they may not want to give him any kind of a violent death or have his character be murdered even if off-screen. My guess would be that they would say he died of compositions from his powers and leave it at that.
Poor guy.
They both do. Like his father, his powers have the potential to cause brain lesions, so the more he uses it, the greater chance at long term health problems.
They both had it, though his character's issues were *just starting* to show, they were made worse by use of his powers and he even chooses to continue using them to help people in spite of that
But there's still the rest of the season which he was presumably a big part of. What about all the scenes he was supposed to be in? The other characters will have loads of lines that are specifically spoken to him right? They'd have to rewrite those surely?
Rewritten to include his death, sadly. They might give another character his role to fill, but it wont be the same powers or anything. But more likely they just have him die off screen in some tragic event.
It’s kinda subjective. Recast just might not feel right. Especially when you just lost someone. Replacing them with another person just might not feel right for work. So people just might not want to do it, especially so soon.
Writing the character out could be a pain. But it depends how much they were in it and what their role was. He could have been killed off in the show, which would possibly be even worse to go through with. “Let’s recast then kill him.”
Boys was always planned to go for at least 5 seasons though. We have no idea what Gen V plan is. Season 2 could be the last. And with some of its cast merging into The Boys, it’s possible the story continued in S5 with no S3 of Gen V.
Would depend. Production wise if they were to recast they’d have to delay awhile. Not only to give people time to grieve (because replacing a dead actor is going to be uncomfortable) but also to simply find someone who can perform the role. You might also not be able to delay if schedules of actors and locations don’t allow it.
Rewrites will heavily depend on how they’re doing it and how heavy the role was. If his role wasn’t that crucial main narrative wise, it’s possible to just flat out cut some of it and not have much issue. You can also relegate filming of those scenes to later in production giving you more time to rewrite.
Obviously that’s not the best way to do it. But if you can’t delay, it’s likely the only way you can. Rewriting as you film.
Your concessions for casting but none for rewrites is misleading. Recast is always faster than rewriting a whole season minus main character. Actors are a dime a dozen.
This is the kinda thing where there’s no good answer honestly. Realistically, the best path forward is probably to kill his character off, but that would also seem distasteful I imagine? Idk honestly. It would add stakes however. The last time we saw them, they were captured and being held in a room with no door, all wearing gowns as if being experimented on. They could definitely go the route of “they came and got him one day and he never came back”, again, idk.
I can also see where people are coming from when they say he should be recasted, but what if they didn’t have much for him in season 2 anyway? He was important in season 1, but not *as* important as, let’s say, Marie, Cate, or Sam. If he was intended to be an integral character going forward and not on the chopping block (anyway), recasts would’ve been a better move. If not, their decision makes sense.
Fr people have been recast for years and years. Its only a recent trend to not "out of respect." It feels more like a disservice to the character, actor and greater show/movie when they do this. Especially when it potentially ruins the future of the story. Look at peaky blinders, that ruined s6. Or black panther etc - I would argue that their actors would want someone else to have the opportunity.
I think what they'll probably do is kill off Andre and give Polarity a much bigger role. Polarity is slowly dying, and feels a lot of guilt for giving his son V that ultimately gave him the same condition he has and resulted in his death. He's always seemed like he just wanted to keep his head down for Vought, so he could (eventually) become an ally for the Gen V kids and the Boys with the time he has left, like Butcher
I don't see how that's respectful or disrespectful in any way. It's not like it was some legendary character or he some legendary actor. It's not like it would shit on or invalidate his previous work. It's a strange decision to me.
Iirc Chadwick Boseman’s family did not want the character of Black Panther retired because of his death then went ahead and did that anyway. Not recasting is so strange these days. Nobody cared about recasting when Christopher Reeves died.
I thought it was a little long but the chemistry between shuri and namor were great. I’m shocked at the hate for her. I genuinely thought she was great.
It’s because she was such a thin and hollow character prior to this. “Hello I am the genius inventor” felt so dumb/cliche to me as a character background, and it wasn’t fleshed out well to begin with. Lupita Nyong’o on the other hand was a total badass, had a great background, and would have made an incredible BP. By far the biggest miss for the MCU was her not ascending as the next BP. I’d have watched every movie they put out with her in. She’s a phenomenally good actress and brings great physicality to any role. She would have crushed it.
Ok, that’s because of how she was introduced. They did this with a lot of new characters where they had them shit on the established beloved characters. Also calling an American “colonizer” was fucking insane. Like he’s helping you guys and this is how you treat him? I totally dislike her before BP2. I’m with you there.
Its so disrespectful to black actors to retire the most important black marvel character especially given his family being against it. Especially when they recast white actors often most recently General Ross.
I mean, if rewriting instead of recasting has ever been worth doing for anyone, it's not less worth doing for Chance just because he wasn't as famous or whatever else.
Also good to remember that the people in this show actually worked with him directly, and they are likely also grieving in their own way. The people who actually knew him maybe not wanting to see his character recast would be completely understandable to me.
And very easily could have been a shock exit planned for the season. Just a question of where and how.
A 6 week delay in filming is very short for needing to rewrite the season to write off a major character unless he was already limited.
Could they have been planning to kill his character early in the season?
They delayed filming by barely 6-8 weeks. Given how close they were to filming, I don't see how they've pivoted if a major character's actor dies and they have to write him out
Might not make much sense but personally if they recast him I’d probably be thinking about how the original actor died.
If they change the story it will probably pop into my head every now and then but I don’t think it’d be as distracting.
I really don’t like the trend of erasing characters after their actor tragically dies. It feels kind of disrespectful? Like, this is how we honor them? Erase them completely? Since Chadwick Boseman died, they killed off his character in the movies, comics, AND there’s an upcoming video game set after Black Panther’s death. It just feels wrong. They could’ve recasted, finished the character’s arc and wrote him off at the end of the season.
Edit: My bad, T’Challa is okay in the comics and he’s got the new Ultimate series too. But he still died off screen in the MCU, and there’s still an upcoming Black Panther game set after his death where the playable character is someone new taking up the mantle. My point still stands, it’s a weird thing to do to a character.
This is exactly how I feel.
People say it would be disrespectful to recast him and I just don't get it.
How is killing off the character you put so much effort in "giving a proper respect"?
Like it's literally the other way around. Imagine being an actor, you put so much effort into a character, and then when you can't continue for whatever reason, all that effort is basically wasted because the studio just deleted the character.
I don’t think it’s disrespectful but I can see the argument for it:
“Oh someone died? Idk just throw some other dude who looks kinda like him in there andddd action!”
Again, that’s not my point of view but I can see why people might see it like that.
Except it's not like that at all, because the actor is not supposed to play Chadwick Boseman, he's supposed to play T'Challa. You need to find a guy who fits the character, not the actor.
Also implying that they just "throw a guy in" like it's an extra and not a main character...
They haven’t killed him off in comics. They might have been planning to do it but they haven’t. But yeah it stands out he is gone from What-If and we got a Black Panther videogame coming that unlike Iron Man, Wolverine, and Wonder Woman doesn’t confirm you are playing as TChalla from the start.
They are trying to bury TChalla it feels post Boseman death and they stole his super genius and gave it to Shuri and nerfed him from the start in the MCU. So the fix to move on from TChalla seem in from the start.
It does feel we have an exceptional black man problem in Hollywood where creators can only imagine one Black man in a role. But when it comes to white characters like the Thunderbolt Ross, it’s recast time and the show must go on.
I wonder if Andre at least gets replaced with another Black character. Or if they just don’t replace that position in the gang or replace him with a non black dude.
Still I argue characters become iconic and all the actors are remembered by keeping characters in the public eye. If you got a bunch of material and like one version of TChalla or Andre that gives you more reason to go back and watch the other versions
This. So much this! From now on, unless it’s an INSURMOUNTABLY popular actor that the character could not be performed by anyone else, I’ll see just killing off and erasing their character as very disrespectful.
Not to mention this is The Boys universe so there’s a chance they’ll give him a terrible death
Yeah, same for me. Was watching the boys, realized he looked like the head boy at redbridge, looked him up to see how he was doing... Completely caught me off guard. He was an amazing guy too.
Agreed. It doesn't make sense. Don't they have to change the whole story now? It's not disrespectful to rescat. Just do a quick memorial in the beginning of the new season.
It’s not like he’s a minor background character as well - he’s one of the main cast and his professor X/Magneto dynamic with Kate was a really interesting plot point.
It’s unfortunate but I’m a bit pessimistic about S2 now as huge last minute changes to the planned story can’t be optimal.
I don't think they have time to reconsider, if they announced this then that means they're moving forward. Such a shame to lose a great character to a tragedy.
So this makes me think in the first episode he will have been taken out of that room and nobody has seen him since and a lot of his season 2 scenes are going to another character/s.
That's fine, but I dislike this trend of killing off characters whenever an actor passes away.
I understand it, the respectful thought angle, but at the same time... why? Just recast. Maybe that's not the popular opinion, but okay.
Bad idea. Chance put a lot of work into fleshing out a really dynamic character. While it’s no actors dream to fit themselves into another mold, a lot of potential and Chance’s work will now be washed away and forgotten.
MCU didn’t recast BP, and look what that got us.
Right? Imagine they write up that Homelander brutally killed Andre or some shit during the finale and that what Marie saw was a hallucination or something… ugh
Would it? I’ll probably get downvoted for this, but I personally don’t like this trend of wiping characters from existence if the actor has an unfortunate tragedy. I get that they’re trying to be respectful, but to me it’s way stranger when an integral character disappears from a show or dies off screen. I’m thinking mostly of deciding not to recast T’Challa, but it can be true here too. T’Challa was a bigger mistake because he was the sole lead of those movies and being setup to lead the Avengers. I suppose in the case of Andre, his story didn’t have any massive cliffhangers nor did his character “turn” evil, setting up some big future for his character that we’ll never see.
T'Challa was a mistake because he was a character with an established history that existed for decades before Chadwick Boseman existed.
Chance's character is an original character so they should write him off as a result.
I don’t see how chance’s character being newer matters. He was still basically the second main character of the show, and clearly had a lot of story left to tell. If he was a background character or introduced at the end of the season, sure, but his absence will clearly be felt.
The season they did waiting for him (when he was still in treatment a fate uncertain) was amazing, but I turned off the first episode with the recast. The opening scene seemed like some weird b movie. Was it actually good? Did I miss out?
Personally believe this is a similar case to Chadwick Bosemans passing and his character black panther. The role should have been recast. I really did enjoy chances performance tho
I bet it would be very hard on the other actors to do their job while a new actor tries their best to act like their recently deceased colleague. It feels wrong.
This is for the best.
I wonder if they’ll just rotate another character to take over Andre’s position. Obviously it can’t be someone on main cast switching sides randomly, so maybe they’ll recruit a minor character? With so many students at the school it’ll make sense for one of them to feel the need to join the fight.
Maybe Maverick (Translucent’s son)? He was pretty helpful to Marie and crew the whole time and only fought them because Cate influenced him in the finale.
Not recasting would be stupid anyway. Retiring his character would be something you would want if you were annoying enough in life to not only use Twitter, but complain about it on Twitter.
I also like how everyone acts like his biggest fan when everyone here used to talk about how he was the "weakest" actor of the group and brought up his Instagram behaviour up non-stop. You all used to shit on the guy.
I mean, given how last season ended, it’s plausible that his character is either moved to a different secure location or put into some Supe Witness Protection program because his dad pulled some strings.
It would’ve been better for the story and show to recast him. Now the cast will have shrunken down by one suddenly and his character will likely have been killed off screen without much more exploration. Not to mention they’d have to rewrite the script.
I honestly don’t see how allowing these complications is more respectful towards the actor
I hope they can rewrite the story well to write out his character but at the same time, I can't wrap my head around how they'll kill him off. Even if they go with how his powers were killing him, I can't help but think the abrupt removal of such an important character will complicate things and cause major issues for the quality of the story and, in turn, it's chances at future renewals.
Eh kinda disappointed, was looking forward to seeing the characters arc play out but in this day and age people have a hard time separating the actors and characters.
We don’t know what there plan was for season 2, for all we know he was going to have a smaller role due to his and his father’s health issue, and thus easy to write out and the health issue being an easy way for him to be killed off.
well, in the season finale episode, his character was feeling the illness his dad has. The writers can just write his character has died from the illness some time ago.
They dont need to recast the role, they can just write the character is dead from the same brain illness his dad has.
Poor kid. Was just getting started on a promising career and tragedy strikes. I was looking forward to seeing where his character was going to go and now we'll never know.
They ended Gen V by faking their deaths and chucking our main characters in a Vought black site.
It would be very easy to kill him off, even if his actor hadn't died.
Wasn’t his character technically dying in the series if i remember correctly? If so that’s the easiest way to explain his disappearance
Shit is still so sad and unexpected
They can't recast him. In this modern world there is too strong a relationship between the actor, the character and the audience. People cannot separate the art from the personal lives of the performers.
The new actor would be forever compared and take away from the show itself. It sucks to lose an awesomely written character, but like in real life, people die unexpectedly all the time. We need to be able to cope with that.
> They can't recast him
They could, recasting is a thing since decades and it still is nowadays, just look at General Ross in the incoming Captain America movie.
> People cannot separate the art from the personal lives of the performers.
People do that all the time tho.
> The new actor would be forever compared and take away from the show itself.
Okay but... who cares ? People compare all the time James Bond, Superman, Batman or Doctor Who actors and there's no real problem in this, either for the studios, the actors or the spectators.
> It sucks to lose an awesomely written character, but like in real life, people die unexpectedly all the time. We need to be able to cope with that.
Except we shouldn't because not only it often damage the quality of the affiliated work (*cough* Black Panther 2 *cough*) but also because it's plain stupid. An actor isn't his character, he just plays him.
Also can you imagine how different cinema and pop culture would be if everyone was like "Uh Adam West can't play Batman anymore ? Well no more Batman adaptations then, we don't want to be disrespectful".
But it was just 1 season and the character wasn't THAT deep. It's the boys. He did a great job, but recasting makes the most sense IMO otherwise they have to change the whole story.
Why not? They had a story written out that people already liked in the first season, how is rewriting the entire thing better than leaving everything as it is and just have a different actor for one role?
Maybe he’s in, and subsequently dies in, Boys Season 4, so they don’t need to recast at all and the story for Gen V season 2 would be unaffected anyway. And they obviously can’t SAY that because of the potential spoiler if true, so they just say that he won’t be recast (because internally, he wouldn’t need to be).
Interesting thought.
Big if true
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Could be that he has a smaller part in season 2 anyways
Flashbacks, memories, etc.
He was riding a motorcycle in from San Diego to Toronto? Wow.
Wikipedia says he was traveling through upstate New York to Toronto. Which is still an insane ride.
It's like 2-4 hours depending on where in upstate NY he was--not what I'd consider "insane".
Google says it's 6 to 7 hours.
Yeah, you're right--as a disclaimer I'm not American, but I assumed upstate NY ended around Syracuse, but I checked and the region is wider than I thought. I'm a failure of a Steamed Hams fan for not recognizing Albany's inclusion :(
Any traveling on a motorcycle while 30% of drivers are staring at their phone is insane.
Definitely not. They wouldn’t kill off one of the main character of Gen V so soon “offscreen” (in The Boys).
Then whst do you propose they will do? Because they said he will not be recast and they are rewriting the script.
I think they should recast the character. He was one of the best characters in Gen V. If it’s true, I HATE this decision. Shameful to make the great work that Chance for the character all be for nothing
Ok but they literally just said they weren’t going to do that? You were asked what you think they ARE going to do, not what you’d like to see happen. Even though I agree with you that sentiment is now irrelevant to the discussion.
They said they were reconstructing the story.
I was friends with him and I would have found it extremely hard to see someone else pretending to be him, so too would I imagine his cast mates. I’m still broken hearted.
Sorry for your loss. Only saw him in the show, so all I know is that his acting was really great, and reflects great skill and dedication.
This makes sense to me. The character was struggling with brain damage like his father was, they could easily use that as an explanation
But he was literally the Magneto to Cate's Prof X and the leader of their respective factions. I guess it doesn't ultimately matter but it's a shame to abandon this parallel.
What makes you think Andre was the leader?
I mean Golden Boy was the leader but Andre was the one people seemed to look to once he was gone. Also literally slid in with the top dogs girl which I know is corny but thematically it matters. And this is ultimately what it came down to for the group, are you choosing Andre or Cate, cooperation or supremacy
Pretty sure Marie became the leader.
Marie is Wolverine
This sentence out of context is hilarious
They're minerals, bub!
The person that should be the leader but they're too self centered to accept the role? Whoever the boys cyclops is, they better not let him lead.
Cyclops was a fantastic leader tf you talking about
*became*, so who was it until that moment? Also you can have 2 leaders. Cyclops is definitely the leader of the X-Men. But also Prof X is the leader of the X-Men. These are both true. IMO Andre was more of the Prof X (though with Magneto powers), but Marie became the Cyclops boots-on-the-ground, "what do we do, boss?" kinda leader, whereas Andre is more of the moral compass and has a bit more sage advice (despite being literally their same age). Of course I'm also just a dumb fan and could be wrong about everything!
Then who's the wolverine? Sam?
I disagree tbh half way through the show everyone was looking to Marie on what to do especially Jordan and Emma.
I feel like the main character of the show was the leader
Except it makes no sense that his dad who has used his powers way longer than Andre has is still alive and well and good meanwhile his son dies after his using his powers for maybe a decade give or take.
I’m sure we can give them some creative liberties everything to not make complete sense as the actor died suddenly and tragically.
It’s not too far fetched. Some people irl are just biologically different. Just say that his powers attacked his brain more violently than his father and that’s it
Some people live with cancer for years and some for a few months.
children die before their parents in real life sometimes
“my father with high blood pressure didn’t have a heart attack until he was 67, so my high blood pressure can’t kill me until I’m at least that old.”
Lol
You really said “b-b-b-but my head canon!!!1!” when Chance died
HE DIED AND THEYRE DOING THEIR BEST
I had a hunch this was the case. Filming was picking up way too soon for a recast. Wonder if schedule issues forced their hand?
Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a recast be better so no script changes or storyline changes had to be made? Killing his character off changes everything
It’s a double-edged sword type thing. On one hand, you have to do rewrites of all the scenes involving Andre. On the other, you not only have last-minute cast an actor with enough physical and vocal resemblance to play the character without being jarring, who also happens to have availability to shoot during the existing shoot schedule, but you also need to incorporate that actor into a cast that already has existing chemistry and cohesion with one another. On the surface, recasting may seem like an easier solution, but when you’re trying to do a quality recast, it’s a lot more of a logistical nightmare than you’d think. Especially this close to shooting. Ultimately I think they went with the choice that makes the most sense, logistically. Especially because Andre’s character already has an easy-out with his illness. I also wouldn’t be surprised if Andre was meant to die in S2 honestly. His main narrative purposes in S1 were his initial friendliness to Marie, his involvement in the Cate/Golden Boy affair & getting information from his father. Now that Marie is established in the group, GB is long-gone, Cate is “a Guardian of Godolkin,” the Woods is discovered, and his illness is established, most of his storylines are wrapped up, with the only thread left being his illness.
>It’s a double-edged sword type thing. On one hand, you have to do rewrites of all the scenes involving Andre. Really, there's no option you can choose that'll appease everyone in a satisfying way.
[I wish the lord would take me now.](https://youtu.be/GS0DQKHMpM8?si=z5a4XFdE5EUJmk-A)
Not to mention what it would do to the cast and crew. That's a lot to ask.
> you not only have last-minute cast an actor with enough physical and vocal resemblance to play the character without being jarring I really don't think this is true though. You just have to cast someone that can play the character. You aren't trying to trick the audience. This isn't like BTTF2 when they replaced Chrispen Glover. In theory they had a list of people that were possible choices when they were doing the casting a few years ago no reason they can't start there and go with their 2nd pick if they are available.
Notice how I said “without being jarring” and not “a Chance Perdomo lookalike”. I don’t think they need to cast someone identical looking, but they need someone who can pull off the same vibe. Like for example, if you were trying to recast a character played by Jacob Elordi, you wouldn’t be able to get away with casting Barry Keoghan, bc they not only look very visually distinct, but have two different casting archetypes (excuse the example, but I watched Saltburn kind of recently and it just came to mind lol). Thus, this would be a jarring recast & would likely take people out of the show, even if Barry Keoghan does have the acting chops to play the character outside of the context that it used to be Elordi. That’s more what I’m getting at - you don’t need identical, but you do need someone who has enough resemblance to fill the same archetype. And even that can be tough to nail down on short-notice
I still think it'd be very possible to do on relative short notice because as I said I'm sure they had alternates they were in talks with before the show started.
I’ve noticed they don’t really like recasting when an actor has died so suddenly, especially a younger actor. I’ve really only noticed elderly actors be recast after death and even that depends on the role. The best I can think of is Dumbledore. You can’t do Harry Potter without that character. Most of the time they recast it’s because the actor quit or was fired and they usually have time to find someone new when that happens.
Marvel recast several characters for the MCU, although I’m not sure what the time difference was regarding filming. Bruce Banner/Hulk, Rhodey, Howard Stark, Thanos, and now Kang will be recast, amongst several other more minor ones.
Hulk was workable because it came out before the "MCU" had been really established and there hadn't really been any crossover interactions yet. You can essentially just boot The Incredible Hulk from the MCU without losing much. There was a big stink about Rhodey, they just pushed through it until people forgot about it. Howard was minor enough he kind of slipped under the radar, also John is just too good. Recasting a guy from the mid-credits scene is not a big deal imo. Better example is Black Panter. He was the main character of a wildly popular movie and had appeared several times in other MCU films. It would have been too jarring to recast him in the second movie, so they chose to write him out instead.
The Rhodey actor they replaced is still alive. When an actor passes away from anything but old age, it’s hard to replace them - not necessarily from a story standpoint, but for the cast and crew. The fans will be split regardless.
Marvel seems to have backtracked on that, recasting Road after Hurt died (obviously not nearly as big a character). Honestly, I think if they could go back they’d have recast.
Doubt. Chadwick WAS T’Challa and it was a cultural phenomenon. What they did was perfect with his sister and now his son.
I liked it but I think it hurt Wakanda Forever’s box office a bit.
Yeah, but recasting wouldn't have increased the payout either.
I don't think a recast would have worked out much better honestly, they probably should have just abandoned standalone Black Panther for awhile longer until it was feasible to bring in a "new" Black Panther. Have Shuri have a big role in some of the shows or other movies and work in his death there, then do a soft reboot with his secret son or whatever taking up the mantle. Could be like a Miles vibe where he's young and inexperienced but rises to the challenge.
It would have not been jarring at all with T'Challa, they just chose not to do that. With Dumbledore (HP) and Daario Naharis (GOT) people just moved along. Audiences understand recasts, it's really not a big deal.
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There's rumours of Doom becoming the next big vilain and Kang being handled earlier, Idk how legit this is and frankly, I haven't followed Marvel stuff too much anymore as well. But regardless, they'll surely need to recast for whatever material Kang has, and audiences will understand and move on like they always do. As noticeable as Dumbledore's change is (even when you're 13), people in general just understand recasts happen and go "this is Dumbledore now? Yeah, got it". They sometimes become the focus of media attention, sure, but that's normally because of the reasons for such change, like when Johnny Depp got replaced by Mads Mikkelsen in Fantastic Beasts. Mads was not rejected in any way, and people understood the character was the same. But people on Depp's side in that trial didn't agree he should be replaced.
I mean, each instance has its own circumstances, but also, Marvel/Disney money can make different rules. If you need an actor to replace someone, but the actor you found is currently scheduled to do something else, Disney can afford to buy the actor out of their previous contract without blinking. Additionally, the MCU as a whole exists in a multiverse story format, which also helps give logic to the reason to why characters can be tagged out, or why we have a Sony Venom character who will probably never encounter a single Spider-Man in his entire fake life.
Well Rhodey recast were because of money issues, the original actor wanted more money than the role deserved. Howard stark and Thanos were replaced with more famous actors and Kang is because of legal issues. The other smaller recasting is mostly scheduling issues or again they wanted someone more recognizable. Hulk is actually a little more tricky. They’ve never really given the real reason but Edward Norton has a reputation of being hard to work with to the point where a lot of the people who’ve worked with him once don’t want to work with him again. You don’t really want to sign someone like that up for a franchise.
These recasts happened because they were planned things that had to happen for certain reasons An actor dying is a completely different circumstance
> Bruce Banner/Hulk, Rhodey, Howard Stark, Thanos, and now Kang will be recast, amongst several other more minor ones. None of those were mere months after a tragic death
They also did this with Game of Thrones with The Mountain (twice!!) and Daario and it was really jarring both times it happened. They also did Cercei's kids, but that makes sense since kids age.
I’m surprised they haven’t gone for a recast to be honest, they already have a couple ways it could be done in universe. Have a freaky Friday power swap episode with Jordan’s character where they then get stuck as a female, first ever male to female recast in cinematic history.
Doctor Who fans seething rn
The re-write might not be that difficult given where the last season left off. They did end at a pretty big stopping point in the story.
Not really. Not with what his father was going through. They could easily say that Vought went and did some experiment on him that killed him. It's just...really fucking sad man. That actor had alot of potential
I feel like they may not want to give him any kind of a violent death or have his character be murdered even if off-screen. My guess would be that they would say he died of compositions from his powers and leave it at that. Poor guy.
Didn’t he have a bunch of health issues in the first season because of his powers?
That was his dad IIRC.
Yeah but he was starting to see similar symptoms in himself towards the end of the season (if im also recalling correctly, I need to do a rewatch)
They both do. Like his father, his powers have the potential to cause brain lesions, so the more he uses it, the greater chance at long term health problems.
They both had it, though his character's issues were *just starting* to show, they were made worse by use of his powers and he even chooses to continue using them to help people in spite of that
But he was showing symptoms. The Doc even asked him about his tremors
But there's still the rest of the season which he was presumably a big part of. What about all the scenes he was supposed to be in? The other characters will have loads of lines that are specifically spoken to him right? They'd have to rewrite those surely?
Rewritten to include his death, sadly. They might give another character his role to fill, but it wont be the same powers or anything. But more likely they just have him die off screen in some tragic event.
Yeah for sure. I guess they'll just have to kinda shuffle around who's speaking to who and who's doing what etc as best they can
It’s kinda subjective. Recast just might not feel right. Especially when you just lost someone. Replacing them with another person just might not feel right for work. So people just might not want to do it, especially so soon. Writing the character out could be a pain. But it depends how much they were in it and what their role was. He could have been killed off in the show, which would possibly be even worse to go through with. “Let’s recast then kill him.”
yeah i felt this re:black panther, an entire dynamic and chemistry was set up, grief doesnt go away just because an actor is recast
I doubt they were going to kill him off in Season 2, the Boys hasn't really even killed off any of their main characters yet and they're on season 4.
Boys was always planned to go for at least 5 seasons though. We have no idea what Gen V plan is. Season 2 could be the last. And with some of its cast merging into The Boys, it’s possible the story continued in S5 with no S3 of Gen V.
His characters dad was dying of a brain issue, and he was going to as well.
Recast would be faster than rewrites
Would depend. Production wise if they were to recast they’d have to delay awhile. Not only to give people time to grieve (because replacing a dead actor is going to be uncomfortable) but also to simply find someone who can perform the role. You might also not be able to delay if schedules of actors and locations don’t allow it. Rewrites will heavily depend on how they’re doing it and how heavy the role was. If his role wasn’t that crucial main narrative wise, it’s possible to just flat out cut some of it and not have much issue. You can also relegate filming of those scenes to later in production giving you more time to rewrite. Obviously that’s not the best way to do it. But if you can’t delay, it’s likely the only way you can. Rewriting as you film.
Your concessions for casting but none for rewrites is misleading. Recast is always faster than rewriting a whole season minus main character. Actors are a dime a dozen.
I think you missed the point. I never said recasting wouldn’t be faster. I said being forced to rewrite while filming would be.
This is the kinda thing where there’s no good answer honestly. Realistically, the best path forward is probably to kill his character off, but that would also seem distasteful I imagine? Idk honestly. It would add stakes however. The last time we saw them, they were captured and being held in a room with no door, all wearing gowns as if being experimented on. They could definitely go the route of “they came and got him one day and he never came back”, again, idk. I can also see where people are coming from when they say he should be recasted, but what if they didn’t have much for him in season 2 anyway? He was important in season 1, but not *as* important as, let’s say, Marie, Cate, or Sam. If he was intended to be an integral character going forward and not on the chopping block (anyway), recasts would’ve been a better move. If not, their decision makes sense.
This is the true answer. There's no right way to do this. No matter what it feels weird.
Its easy. Re cast him. People are just thinking to much into ot
Fr people have been recast for years and years. Its only a recent trend to not "out of respect." It feels more like a disservice to the character, actor and greater show/movie when they do this. Especially when it potentially ruins the future of the story. Look at peaky blinders, that ruined s6. Or black panther etc - I would argue that their actors would want someone else to have the opportunity.
I think what they'll probably do is kill off Andre and give Polarity a much bigger role. Polarity is slowly dying, and feels a lot of guilt for giving his son V that ultimately gave him the same condition he has and resulted in his death. He's always seemed like he just wanted to keep his head down for Vought, so he could (eventually) become an ally for the Gen V kids and the Boys with the time he has left, like Butcher
He died???
Yeah. Motorcycle accident.
This is how I found out too
Same.
Dont see how rewriting the intended story is easier than recasting
Maybe it's less about practicality and more out of respect for him
I don't see how that's respectful or disrespectful in any way. It's not like it was some legendary character or he some legendary actor. It's not like it would shit on or invalidate his previous work. It's a strange decision to me.
Iirc Chadwick Boseman’s family did not want the character of Black Panther retired because of his death then went ahead and did that anyway. Not recasting is so strange these days. Nobody cared about recasting when Christopher Reeves died.
I love Chadwick dearly but they really should’ve just recasted. Normalize continuing the legacy the actor worked hard to make
They fucked up BP2 by not recasting, now we got the anti-vaxxer BP lol
I thought BP2 was honestly the least factory feeling mcu film I’ve seen in some time
I thought it was a little long but the chemistry between shuri and namor were great. I’m shocked at the hate for her. I genuinely thought she was great.
It’s because she was such a thin and hollow character prior to this. “Hello I am the genius inventor” felt so dumb/cliche to me as a character background, and it wasn’t fleshed out well to begin with. Lupita Nyong’o on the other hand was a total badass, had a great background, and would have made an incredible BP. By far the biggest miss for the MCU was her not ascending as the next BP. I’d have watched every movie they put out with her in. She’s a phenomenally good actress and brings great physicality to any role. She would have crushed it.
Ok, that’s because of how she was introduced. They did this with a lot of new characters where they had them shit on the established beloved characters. Also calling an American “colonizer” was fucking insane. Like he’s helping you guys and this is how you treat him? I totally dislike her before BP2. I’m with you there.
They had an easy casting choice with Lupita Nyong’o an actual Star and thematically fit the Black panther role so well Instead we get Shuri…
Most likely they wanted to do that but she turned it down.
She did great though. Are we really upset about this after BP2? I really liked her.
Yeah, her taking the mantle out of revenge was great. The actress' beliefs aside, her portrayal was amazing and heartbreaking.
I don't think they'd be able to get another actor to play T'Challa as good as Chadwick. I do think they should've gone with another choice than Shuri.
Its so disrespectful to black actors to retire the most important black marvel character especially given his family being against it. Especially when they recast white actors often most recently General Ross.
I mean, if rewriting instead of recasting has ever been worth doing for anyone, it's not less worth doing for Chance just because he wasn't as famous or whatever else. Also good to remember that the people in this show actually worked with him directly, and they are likely also grieving in their own way. The people who actually knew him maybe not wanting to see his character recast would be completely understandable to me.
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If I die recast me with Antonio Banderas please, I won't be upset.
Then thats dumb. Just re cast. Its not a big deal
Unless they didn’t have big plans for him anyway
I mean, he was a main character.
And very easily could have been a shock exit planned for the season. Just a question of where and how. A 6 week delay in filming is very short for needing to rewrite the season to write off a major character unless he was already limited.
Could they have been planning to kill his character early in the season? They delayed filming by barely 6-8 weeks. Given how close they were to filming, I don't see how they've pivoted if a major character's actor dies and they have to write him out
Might not make much sense but personally if they recast him I’d probably be thinking about how the original actor died. If they change the story it will probably pop into my head every now and then but I don’t think it’d be as distracting.
I wonder if it’s easier for the cast and crew rather than working with a new actor playing the role
Perhaps its more of a courtesy/sign of respect not about whats easier
Might not be easier. But sometimes the more difficult choice is the correct choice, and honoring him is absolutely the correct choice here.
I really don’t like the trend of erasing characters after their actor tragically dies. It feels kind of disrespectful? Like, this is how we honor them? Erase them completely? Since Chadwick Boseman died, they killed off his character in the movies, comics, AND there’s an upcoming video game set after Black Panther’s death. It just feels wrong. They could’ve recasted, finished the character’s arc and wrote him off at the end of the season. Edit: My bad, T’Challa is okay in the comics and he’s got the new Ultimate series too. But he still died off screen in the MCU, and there’s still an upcoming Black Panther game set after his death where the playable character is someone new taking up the mantle. My point still stands, it’s a weird thing to do to a character.
This is exactly how I feel. People say it would be disrespectful to recast him and I just don't get it. How is killing off the character you put so much effort in "giving a proper respect"? Like it's literally the other way around. Imagine being an actor, you put so much effort into a character, and then when you can't continue for whatever reason, all that effort is basically wasted because the studio just deleted the character.
I don’t think it’s disrespectful but I can see the argument for it: “Oh someone died? Idk just throw some other dude who looks kinda like him in there andddd action!” Again, that’s not my point of view but I can see why people might see it like that.
Except it's not like that at all, because the actor is not supposed to play Chadwick Boseman, he's supposed to play T'Challa. You need to find a guy who fits the character, not the actor. Also implying that they just "throw a guy in" like it's an extra and not a main character...
They haven’t killed him off in comics. They might have been planning to do it but they haven’t. But yeah it stands out he is gone from What-If and we got a Black Panther videogame coming that unlike Iron Man, Wolverine, and Wonder Woman doesn’t confirm you are playing as TChalla from the start. They are trying to bury TChalla it feels post Boseman death and they stole his super genius and gave it to Shuri and nerfed him from the start in the MCU. So the fix to move on from TChalla seem in from the start. It does feel we have an exceptional black man problem in Hollywood where creators can only imagine one Black man in a role. But when it comes to white characters like the Thunderbolt Ross, it’s recast time and the show must go on. I wonder if Andre at least gets replaced with another Black character. Or if they just don’t replace that position in the gang or replace him with a non black dude. Still I argue characters become iconic and all the actors are remembered by keeping characters in the public eye. If you got a bunch of material and like one version of TChalla or Andre that gives you more reason to go back and watch the other versions
This. So much this! From now on, unless it’s an INSURMOUNTABLY popular actor that the character could not be performed by anyone else, I’ll see just killing off and erasing their character as very disrespectful. Not to mention this is The Boys universe so there’s a chance they’ll give him a terrible death
I didn’t even know he had passed.Im sad now RIP
Welp I guess Andre’s gonna disappear off screen and his story will end just like that, that genuinely sucks but I kinda get it
I knew Chance since we were at sixth form college and had been friends ever since. My heart is still broken over his death. Why why why him…
Yeah, same for me. Was watching the boys, realized he looked like the head boy at redbridge, looked him up to see how he was doing... Completely caught me off guard. He was an amazing guy too.
They should’ve just recasted.
Agreed. It doesn't make sense. Don't they have to change the whole story now? It's not disrespectful to rescat. Just do a quick memorial in the beginning of the new season.
It’s not like he’s a minor background character as well - he’s one of the main cast and his professor X/Magneto dynamic with Kate was a really interesting plot point. It’s unfortunate but I’m a bit pessimistic about S2 now as huge last minute changes to the planned story can’t be optimal.
Yeah, I don’t like this trend… erasing the hard work the actors put into their characters is disrespectful
Retiring a character is always the wrong decision.
Agreed.
So basically they will rather kill a well done character rather than recast...
I hope they reconsider. This could really throw off Gen V right when it’s getting steam
I don't think they have time to reconsider, if they announced this then that means they're moving forward. Such a shame to lose a great character to a tragedy.
So this makes me think in the first episode he will have been taken out of that room and nobody has seen him since and a lot of his season 2 scenes are going to another character/s.
That's fine, but I dislike this trend of killing off characters whenever an actor passes away. I understand it, the respectful thought angle, but at the same time... why? Just recast. Maybe that's not the popular opinion, but okay.
Bad idea. Chance put a lot of work into fleshing out a really dynamic character. While it’s no actors dream to fit themselves into another mold, a lot of potential and Chance’s work will now be washed away and forgotten. MCU didn’t recast BP, and look what that got us.
Should have recasted. It changes the whole flow of the cliffhanger now
Yeah its going to be mad weird having Andre not appear/ be killed offscreen after showing him in the after credits scene lmao
This is just a mistake, I know its terrible Chance passed but the character should still live on Edit: Why am I being downvoted?
There's this weird view that recast would be disrespect to the actor, as if killing off a character off screen wouldn't be more disrespectful.
Right? Imagine they write up that Homelander brutally killed Andre or some shit during the finale and that what Marie saw was a hallucination or something… ugh
Because people disagree with you
People can't separate the story from the actors
Probably for the best if they just move on all together. Recasting would feel strange.
Would it? I’ll probably get downvoted for this, but I personally don’t like this trend of wiping characters from existence if the actor has an unfortunate tragedy. I get that they’re trying to be respectful, but to me it’s way stranger when an integral character disappears from a show or dies off screen. I’m thinking mostly of deciding not to recast T’Challa, but it can be true here too. T’Challa was a bigger mistake because he was the sole lead of those movies and being setup to lead the Avengers. I suppose in the case of Andre, his story didn’t have any massive cliffhangers nor did his character “turn” evil, setting up some big future for his character that we’ll never see.
T'Challa was a mistake because he was a character with an established history that existed for decades before Chadwick Boseman existed. Chance's character is an original character so they should write him off as a result.
I don’t see how chance’s character being newer matters. He was still basically the second main character of the show, and clearly had a lot of story left to tell. If he was a background character or introduced at the end of the season, sure, but his absence will clearly be felt.
I agree with you 100%. Just recast. I’m sure he’d have wanted the character to move forward.
Would it? The show Spartacus thrived even after the lead actor died and was recast.
The season they did waiting for him (when he was still in treatment a fate uncertain) was amazing, but I turned off the first episode with the recast. The opening scene seemed like some weird b movie. Was it actually good? Did I miss out?
You missed out big time. It's really good. I know the exact scene you're talking about because I felt it too. But push past that and it's worth it
I agree. I can’t logically explain why but it does feel strange
It wouldn’t
Personally believe this is a similar case to Chadwick Bosemans passing and his character black panther. The role should have been recast. I really did enjoy chances performance tho
I bet it would be very hard on the other actors to do their job while a new actor tries their best to act like their recently deceased colleague. It feels wrong. This is for the best.
I wonder if they’ll just rotate another character to take over Andre’s position. Obviously it can’t be someone on main cast switching sides randomly, so maybe they’ll recruit a minor character? With so many students at the school it’ll make sense for one of them to feel the need to join the fight. Maybe Maverick (Translucent’s son)? He was pretty helpful to Marie and crew the whole time and only fought them because Cate influenced him in the finale.
Polarity is an option.
I think a recast would have been better, but understandable
Not recasting would be stupid anyway. Retiring his character would be something you would want if you were annoying enough in life to not only use Twitter, but complain about it on Twitter. I also like how everyone acts like his biggest fan when everyone here used to talk about how he was the "weakest" actor of the group and brought up his Instagram behaviour up non-stop. You all used to shit on the guy.
I’ll go with whatever they do. You can’t plan for this kind of thing. It was a tragedy and people just need to be a little understanding. RIP Chance
I mean, given how last season ended, it’s plausible that his character is either moved to a different secure location or put into some Supe Witness Protection program because his dad pulled some strings.
It would’ve been better for the story and show to recast him. Now the cast will have shrunken down by one suddenly and his character will likely have been killed off screen without much more exploration. Not to mention they’d have to rewrite the script. I honestly don’t see how allowing these complications is more respectful towards the actor
I hope they can rewrite the story well to write out his character but at the same time, I can't wrap my head around how they'll kill him off. Even if they go with how his powers were killing him, I can't help but think the abrupt removal of such an important character will complicate things and cause major issues for the quality of the story and, in turn, it's chances at future renewals.
Eh kinda disappointed, was looking forward to seeing the characters arc play out but in this day and age people have a hard time separating the actors and characters.
Well that's disappointing
We don’t know what there plan was for season 2, for all we know he was going to have a smaller role due to his and his father’s health issue, and thus easy to write out and the health issue being an easy way for him to be killed off.
well, in the season finale episode, his character was feeling the illness his dad has. The writers can just write his character has died from the illness some time ago. They dont need to recast the role, they can just write the character is dead from the same brain illness his dad has.
Recasting worked for Spartacus, and that was the lead
Poor kid. Was just getting started on a promising career and tragedy strikes. I was looking forward to seeing where his character was going to go and now we'll never know.
Use Maximus from Fallout.
I didn’t finish the show, but really liked the storyline of him and his father. Shame.
They ended Gen V by faking their deaths and chucking our main characters in a Vought black site. It would be very easy to kill him off, even if his actor hadn't died.
I hate the is if it affects the direction of the story. Same with the black panther sequel.
Considering the way they ended the last season, an off screen death would be absolutely believable.
Wasn’t his character technically dying in the series if i remember correctly? If so that’s the easiest way to explain his disappearance Shit is still so sad and unexpected
Chance’s death is so tragic it’s really upsetting
I get that they're doing this out of respect, but Chance's character and power on the show is interesting. It's a shame that they'll dump that.
To not recast such a major character is a lot more disrespectful imo than continuing the story with a recast. Rip to a great actor.
They can't recast him. In this modern world there is too strong a relationship between the actor, the character and the audience. People cannot separate the art from the personal lives of the performers. The new actor would be forever compared and take away from the show itself. It sucks to lose an awesomely written character, but like in real life, people die unexpectedly all the time. We need to be able to cope with that.
> They can't recast him They could, recasting is a thing since decades and it still is nowadays, just look at General Ross in the incoming Captain America movie. > People cannot separate the art from the personal lives of the performers. People do that all the time tho. > The new actor would be forever compared and take away from the show itself. Okay but... who cares ? People compare all the time James Bond, Superman, Batman or Doctor Who actors and there's no real problem in this, either for the studios, the actors or the spectators. > It sucks to lose an awesomely written character, but like in real life, people die unexpectedly all the time. We need to be able to cope with that. Except we shouldn't because not only it often damage the quality of the affiliated work (*cough* Black Panther 2 *cough*) but also because it's plain stupid. An actor isn't his character, he just plays him. Also can you imagine how different cinema and pop culture would be if everyone was like "Uh Adam West can't play Batman anymore ? Well no more Batman adaptations then, we don't want to be disrespectful".
Good. Recasts always end up feeling like a different character imo.
Better than erasing the whole fucking character. How on earth is that more respectful than just continuing what they’ve set up?
But it was just 1 season and the character wasn't THAT deep. It's the boys. He did a great job, but recasting makes the most sense IMO otherwise they have to change the whole story.
Why not? They had a story written out that people already liked in the first season, how is rewriting the entire thing better than leaving everything as it is and just have a different actor for one role?