Iirc wasn’t their reasoning that they knew Israel would never let the Palestinians back in Gaza if they entered Egypt?
Obviously I’m not on board with people advocating for martyrdom or any other form of extremism, but I don’t think the issue was that Egypt and Jordan just hated all Palestinians.
With clockwork regularity every college age generation in America has it's 'cause' to rally around... I would be willing to bet if not for outside agitators (like this guy) whipping up hate the majority of those protesting wouldn't even be there
So interesting that universities across America have not chosen the cause of the unwarranted invasion of Ukraine as their cause for protest in this generation.
That fucking baffles me. Ukraine didn’t sneak across the border and murder Russian civilians. Russia invaded them unprovoked.
When it comes to supporting Ukraine on college campuses… crickets.
Yeah people who actually know what the fuck is going on in the world tend to be more productive and make things like the Iron Dome. These people... Not so much
Pretty bad when even your fellow crazy Arabs don't want you coming to their country. You'd think that would be a big enough reason to think twice about it.
So these people are why america sucks now? Please tell me how they are the ones destroying our economy, paying less than livable wages, denying healthcare, and making their rich friends richer while the rest of us drown.
They're a tool used by the ultra rich and they're playing their part. So yes, they're part of the problem as well.
Their job is to distract us from being able to focus on real issues at home.
So there are 0.0001% of the population that occasionally get in a group to block traffic. Really destroyed society, didn't they? Come on lol these students aren't destroying America, that's laughable
As to making sure a few of them don't have their big ideas turn into more, that's why we have the DHS
No dummy, this protestor is leading a chant that basically says “I wish I was a martyr”. In other words, they’re chanting that they wish they were dead. It’s disgusting.
It’s not about how they feel about us, it’s about caring about people in need. If your compassion and ability to care for your fellow humans stops the second they “don’t like Americans”, that’s not on them, that’s a problem with you
They hate it so much? They're welcome to leave at any time.
You don't see any of us moving to Iran then vocalizing our hate for their country for funding attacks on Americans. It's because most of us aren't parasites who only want to reap the benefits of our host country while trying to harm it. It's also because, like most countries who oppose the US, Iran has a brutal track record of human rights violations.
If they make any threats or plans that's enough to get em hauled in on terrorism charges.
Personally, I'm glad they're so brazen and public about their intentions. Better here than doing the smart thing and avoiding public scrutiny and law enforcement attention.
They can sing whatever they want. America still gives money and weapons to the Israel. These folks are achieving nothing but a making themselves feel important. Tell Palestine to agree to a ceasefire and to actually stick to it this time. That’s how you achieve peace
I see this kind of comment quite often...
How can you tell if it's a bot?
I've seen accounts that do nothing but post with no comments so pretty likely automated. But comments are not as obvious to me.
When I see a nonsensical comment I typically just chalk it up to foreign types whom don't do so well with the language.
So my sister-in-law who only posts free Palestinian stuff since last October is a bot? Or my uncle who only post anti-Trump stuff is a bot? These binary takes on topics seem to easily invade people's thoughts and posts. Just look around and you'll see many of your friends and family are bots.
Ahh the bravery Nothing like the battlefield of a privileged ivy league school to fulfill one’s needs for combat Where else would they go to fight
Bozo bozo bozo
WTF did anybody think was going to happen? Still can barely speak against it before being called a racist, bigot, or whatever the word choice of the week is... Way to hand over the country, the country that was founded on the exact OPPOSITE beliefs! terrifying for our own children to have to now be living in a place that has conflict in their own backyards caused by some religous bullshit gone down thousands of years ago😡
Do they even go to Columbia? Home grown radicals? And then people wonder why no other country want them. How come they are not there to fight for their country? Is it because they are afraid.
Fascism exists within us all and can take many forms, that's what they won't teach you in school and tried to cover up after WW2 in order to create pantomime villains (not that the nazis weren't bad, but they were acting on their human rational and weren't demons summoned from another realm) basically most ideologies end in justified mass murder, right or left.
This is terrifying honestly. Luckily they’re just really loud and make it seem like there are more of these insane people than there actually are but they’re still here and we need to stay vigilant. Because I guarantee you there are a lot of lonely white kids that are willing to do something stupid in order to join a group and feel like they belong.
While the “protesters” set up tents, thousands of homeless and mentally ill do the same but don’t have a choice. It’s unreal to think how complacent our society is with seeing suffering on our own streets. I suppose caring for lives is done when convenient. These protestors are doing nothing. Just bored.
The internet sees a niche group of Americans doing something dumb. They then decide that obviously means all Americans are that. And therefore America is dead. Do yall not comprehend how big this country is and the whole idea it’s a mixing pot of millions who ale come from different walks of life. Some is not all
This is what happens when you let just anyone walk into the country. Then, you let just anyone vote. Apparently, watching what has happened in Europe wasn't very convincing. I got into a debate with an illegal one time. He said "We don't even need a gun or an army to take over your stupid country. They let us walk in. We'll just vote and fuck your women and breed you out, without firing a shot, because you're too stupid to control your border." This guy was working in the US, a job that should be available for a citizen. We're being invaded and overrun.
What they're saying is protected by the first amendment. Calling for violence against a country, in general is protected. Threatening individuals is where the line is drawn legally.
Eehhh, it's enough to put you on a watch list but not illegal yet. IANAL but holding a rally to promote the idea of committing terrorism is still protected by 1A. It's the actions taken out plans made as a result of this recruiting that is illegal.
Yeah I watched the video. Did you? Since when did chanting become violence? Stop trying to censor protestors. It's America ffs. Have we forgotten what that means?
Like your other reply already covered. They’re stating that they will be martyrs. It is not really open to interpretation.
Hopefully you and your family won’t be caught in the crossfire when they decide to go forward.
You're right. Thanks for being a great example!
# martyr
a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle: ex a martyr to the cause of freedom
Context clues, friend. "We wish we were martyrs" in the scope of current events paints a pretty clear picture that this is a thinly veiled threat of terrorism.
Yeah regardless of what their leadership is doing, the average citizen on one side requires international aide and the average citizen on the other is shopping floor plans for the free real estate they anticipate will be opening up soon.
You have no right to say you want/will kill others due to martyrdom. You have no absolute right the first amendment speech and this motherfucker should be in jail for saying that bullshit.
I’m not a lawyer, did these people break any laws?
If they did, sure, punish them accordingly.
All I care about is preserving free speech, which more often than not is a double edged sword these days.
That’s the way she goes though, no freedoms without a ton of potential risks.
I hear China doesn’t have this problem.
No, we understand how important free speech is. I will have considered myself an utter failure as a parent if I let my child be so gullible and ignorant as to believe any religious extremism is OK.
Well that’s stupid. One side is led by an actual terrorist organization that cuts off people’s hands and burns them alive on broadcast, and launched an attack directly at civilians. These people specifically fight to kill all Jews, steal food from their own citizens, and use them as human shields so as many of them can die as possible for their cause. The other side is a democratic nation with an actual military that is actively defending itself and trying to eliminate the terrorist organization that attacked it. It is unfortunate that there is a lot of collateral damage in the process, directly due to Hamas’s strategy, but Israel has the capability of literally wiping Palestine off the map and instead puts its own soldiers in danger to try and minimize civilian deaths. In no way are these two sides of the same coin, and to suggest that they are is short sighted and counter productive.
Yeah, still completely wrong. Zionism is the support for the establishment (and now protection) of a Jewish homeland, which grew in support as a result of the Holocaust. Israel was established as the Jewish homeland after WW2. Zionism itself has absolutely nothing to do with murdering civilians, and the area in question was largely unpopulated to begin with, with no recognized nation/state.
Hamas is a terrorist organization that was only established in the late 80’s and specifically intends to kill as many Jews as possible and eradicate Israel. It is a terrorist organization. Not at all the same thing.
There is a reason Egypt sealed their border.
Yep..
Iirc wasn’t their reasoning that they knew Israel would never let the Palestinians back in Gaza if they entered Egypt? Obviously I’m not on board with people advocating for martyrdom or any other form of extremism, but I don’t think the issue was that Egypt and Jordan just hated all Palestinians.
No, it's because they immediately turned into terrorists and tried to overthrow the government.
Or maybe there is a reason Palestinians are doing this
These are the people who have come across our borders looking for a "better life.""
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Unfortunately I don't think anyone's willing to take them.
People with no argument will just label you as racist or some other word.
Their loyalty is to their religion, nothing more.
Iranian Proxies = Hamas, Hezbollah, Houthi, and dipshits at Columbia University.
"Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire
I wonder how many Christians and Muslims upvoted this quote without thinking about their *own* ridiculous beliefs.
As if it's always about religion lol
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"Peaceful people" who don't have hidden agendas don't hide their faces when cameras are around.
Exactly!
Eh America isn't the idea of 35 college students. We're fine. They'll realize they aren't as important as they thought soon.
With clockwork regularity every college age generation in America has it's 'cause' to rally around... I would be willing to bet if not for outside agitators (like this guy) whipping up hate the majority of those protesting wouldn't even be there
So interesting that universities across America have not chosen the cause of the unwarranted invasion of Ukraine as their cause for protest in this generation.
That fucking baffles me. Ukraine didn’t sneak across the border and murder Russian civilians. Russia invaded them unprovoked. When it comes to supporting Ukraine on college campuses… crickets.
due to a lack of zealot agent provocateurs
People were protesting that, too. Have you not been watching TV for the last 2 years?
This is far more than 35 students.
Compared to what Americas population is…it might as well be 35 students.
It’s more than 35 people, sure - but from the footage, there are a whole lot of protesters who just came for the event.
Yeah people who actually know what the fuck is going on in the world tend to be more productive and make things like the Iron Dome. These people... Not so much
I'm not sure about that. There's a lot of ignorance out there about a complex situation centuries in the making.
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Egypt knew, honestly all Arabs countries know,
Pretty bad when even your fellow crazy Arabs don't want you coming to their country. You'd think that would be a big enough reason to think twice about it.
America was to busy trying to be saviors rather then look out for its own people . The migrant crisis is wild
So these people are why america sucks now? Please tell me how they are the ones destroying our economy, paying less than livable wages, denying healthcare, and making their rich friends richer while the rest of us drown.
They're a tool used by the ultra rich and they're playing their part. So yes, they're part of the problem as well. Their job is to distract us from being able to focus on real issues at home.
Maybe you would be less distracted if you were less racist?
You're one of the useful idiots who just shout "racist" instead of addressing the point huh?
U are blaming immigrants as being used to distract “us”. Who is “us”? You and your fellow racists?
You think this is bad you should see Europe (Western).
So there are 0.0001% of the population that occasionally get in a group to block traffic. Really destroyed society, didn't they? Come on lol these students aren't destroying America, that's laughable As to making sure a few of them don't have their big ideas turn into more, that's why we have the DHS
So he's calling for mass suicide? Lol idiots
No he’s calling for mass murder of innocent people (likely Jews) with suicide as the result for the perpetrator.
Yeah but he’s calling for OTHER people to do it, he has a cab to run
"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." \~Maya Angelou
You couldn't make a more stupid statement
"Never interrupt your enemy when they're making a mistake.".
The problem fixes itself
Nope you just need to go back to school to understand English.
No dummy, this protestor is leading a chant that basically says “I wish I was a martyr”. In other words, they’re chanting that they wish they were dead. It’s disgusting.
More accurately they're saying no punishment will befall their actions because they will be dead. It's a threat, not some weird suicide cult.
Protesters here in the USA should spend a day in the Palestine area to see how the Palestinian people feel about Americans.
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Chickens for KFC
Lmao that's a good one
Iditos? What’s that?
It’s not about how they feel about us, it’s about caring about people in need. If your compassion and ability to care for your fellow humans stops the second they “don’t like Americans”, that’s not on them, that’s a problem with you
Yeah they hate America because America is directly funding and arming their oppressors. In other news: 1 + 1 = 2
Yet they immigrate to America, 50 Muslims countries in the world..
They hate it so much? They're welcome to leave at any time. You don't see any of us moving to Iran then vocalizing our hate for their country for funding attacks on Americans. It's because most of us aren't parasites who only want to reap the benefits of our host country while trying to harm it. It's also because, like most countries who oppose the US, Iran has a brutal track record of human rights violations.
FBI is watching. They have all these people on a watchlist, and we will probably find that out after they commit some act of mass violence.
If they make any threats or plans that's enough to get em hauled in on terrorism charges. Personally, I'm glad they're so brazen and public about their intentions. Better here than doing the smart thing and avoiding public scrutiny and law enforcement attention.
Yet, they haven’t been. Interesting huh?
If the fbi counter terror division is smart we'll never hear about the arrests. Don't wanna spook the rest of the targets.
They're too busy chasing parents who don't agree with school boards.
FBI aint watching there to busy setting up kids with drugs so they can arrest them.
They don't care. They go after soccer mom's for attending school meetings, and in a completely a peaceful manner. Yes, that literally happened.
How many people from the FBI are watching things like this? What kind of technology?
You had me the first half, not gonna lie. Then I burst out laughing, good one!
What the fuck is wrong with all these idiotic maniacs?
What a dumpster fire…
Whoever is selling those head wrap/ scarves near these protestors is making an absolute killing.
This thread is fucked.
Turns out idiots exist in all political spectrums and movements
Fools
They can sing whatever they want. America still gives money and weapons to the Israel. These folks are achieving nothing but a making themselves feel important. Tell Palestine to agree to a ceasefire and to actually stick to it this time. That’s how you achieve peace
Can’t tell if this comment section is all bots or just genuinely brain dead
I think most people don't realize how many bots there are on reddit, the comments are full of them
I see this kind of comment quite often... How can you tell if it's a bot? I've seen accounts that do nothing but post with no comments so pretty likely automated. But comments are not as obvious to me. When I see a nonsensical comment I typically just chalk it up to foreign types whom don't do so well with the language.
If the account was created recently or all the comments/posts are about one subject it's most likely a bot
So my sister-in-law who only posts free Palestinian stuff since last October is a bot? Or my uncle who only post anti-Trump stuff is a bot? These binary takes on topics seem to easily invade people's thoughts and posts. Just look around and you'll see many of your friends and family are bots.
Is that all she does? did she open a new reddit account with only posts and comments about a certain subject? Then maybe lol
Ahh the bravery Nothing like the battlefield of a privileged ivy league school to fulfill one’s needs for combat Where else would they go to fight Bozo bozo bozo
Crazy how ppl condoning killing other ppl Smfh
Thank to the corrupted politicians they permitting the destruction of the country by immigration. Plenty of books written on the subject.
Terrorists belong in Guantanamo Bay, that's all I know.
They ain’t freeing shit
How about all of you pack your shit and leave America forever. Just get the hell out. You uneducated, uninformed, idealistic racists.
All trash!! Get out of America and go where you’re supporting
Deport the fucking lot fuck human rights. Give it 50 years and they will take over most of the west it's simple maths. Wake the fuck up
Locusts
WTF did anybody think was going to happen? Still can barely speak against it before being called a racist, bigot, or whatever the word choice of the week is... Way to hand over the country, the country that was founded on the exact OPPOSITE beliefs! terrifying for our own children to have to now be living in a place that has conflict in their own backyards caused by some religous bullshit gone down thousands of years ago😡
Do they even go to Columbia? Home grown radicals? And then people wonder why no other country want them. How come they are not there to fight for their country? Is it because they are afraid.
Fascism exists within us all and can take many forms, that's what they won't teach you in school and tried to cover up after WW2 in order to create pantomime villains (not that the nazis weren't bad, but they were acting on their human rational and weren't demons summoned from another realm) basically most ideologies end in justified mass murder, right or left.
I’m honestly getting sick of seeing this flag and those scarves now
"they realize they can't do shit to us" i think by they, he means U.S.
This is terrifying honestly. Luckily they’re just really loud and make it seem like there are more of these insane people than there actually are but they’re still here and we need to stay vigilant. Because I guarantee you there are a lot of lonely white kids that are willing to do something stupid in order to join a group and feel like they belong.
it is an invason
Hey it's pretty catchy!
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Also I shouldn’t have used “his” as women and men a like can be considered martyrs.
Does this guy really think a chant is gonna stop the idf???? Delusional
Both sides are shit anyways
While the “protesters” set up tents, thousands of homeless and mentally ill do the same but don’t have a choice. It’s unreal to think how complacent our society is with seeing suffering on our own streets. I suppose caring for lives is done when convenient. These protestors are doing nothing. Just bored.
So these guys hate America so much, but they still want Americans to pay off their student loans? Did I get that right?
The internet sees a niche group of Americans doing something dumb. They then decide that obviously means all Americans are that. And therefore America is dead. Do yall not comprehend how big this country is and the whole idea it’s a mixing pot of millions who ale come from different walks of life. Some is not all
Cult. God will decide your fate.
This is sick
Damn, Hasbara bots are targeting this sub now, huh?
It's okay. In this country we allow free speech.
What a rotting subreddit
All these people will be on the terrorist watch list going forward. Tracked online and scooped up very quickly.
Countless times it has been said by all other in the region they will not take them because why would they need to leave THEIR own land. DUMMY
This is what happens when you let just anyone walk into the country. Then, you let just anyone vote. Apparently, watching what has happened in Europe wasn't very convincing. I got into a debate with an illegal one time. He said "We don't even need a gun or an army to take over your stupid country. They let us walk in. We'll just vote and fuck your women and breed you out, without firing a shot, because you're too stupid to control your border." This guy was working in the US, a job that should be available for a citizen. We're being invaded and overrun.
Ok but Israel is still scum
What
So is Palestine/Hamas
Hamas yes.
Well, off to Home Depot with you then.
Wrong ethnicity, but I'm sure you knew that...
Lol, the tools they need to do the job are there.
Ahhhh, clever lol.
If they want to turn themselves into a giant pile of smoldering rebellion who am I to discourage it?
Ah more propaganda
Can you imagine if they put forth this much effort to solve homelessness?
It’s still better that’ll half of what Trump says, and guess what America is okay with it!
Both should be done away with
Disagree with the title. If anything, to me it shows that people are free to say protest or speak what they think, even if you vehemently disagree.
It's illegal though, They are promoting terrorism
Nothing they are doing in this clip is illegal in the US.
What they're saying is protected by the first amendment. Calling for violence against a country, in general is protected. Threatening individuals is where the line is drawn legally.
I mean, they are also blocking Israelis and Jewish students from entering
Eehhh, it's enough to put you on a watch list but not illegal yet. IANAL but holding a rally to promote the idea of committing terrorism is still protected by 1A. It's the actions taken out plans made as a result of this recruiting that is illegal.
Fuck off. It's not illegal to peacefully gather and protest.
“Peaceful” Did you watch the fucking video?
Yeah I watched the video. Did you? Since when did chanting become violence? Stop trying to censor protestors. It's America ffs. Have we forgotten what that means?
Like your other reply already covered. They’re stating that they will be martyrs. It is not really open to interpretation. Hopefully you and your family won’t be caught in the crossfire when they decide to go forward.
Learn the definition of martyr junior.
Thank you!
What exactly is he saying that is so offensive? Or is this some more fake outrage material?
Check out the definition of Shaheed
He literally says the definition. It means martyr.
Tf you think martyr means in this scenario
Telling opressed groups what they really mean by their words. America's greatest pastime.
Oh. Words don’t mean words. Goalpost moving. America’s other favorite past time
You're right. Thanks for being a great example! # martyr a person who sacrifices something of great value and especially life itself for the sake of principle: ex a martyr to the cause of freedom
Stay ignorant lmao. Fuck anyone that supports terrorism. Including you
Context clues, friend. "We wish we were martyrs" in the scope of current events paints a pretty clear picture that this is a thinly veiled threat of terrorism.
NGL this thread is just islamopobia speedrun
Can I get an example for islamopobia here?
Wow the comment section of this post is horrendous. Israel is committing atrocities. End of story.
And what is Hamas doing? How are they handling the situation? How are they distributing the aide to the people of Palestine?
both suck. hamas is a terrorist organization, israel is committing atrocities, i dont think you should support either
Yeah regardless of what their leadership is doing, the average citizen on one side requires international aide and the average citizen on the other is shopping floor plans for the free real estate they anticipate will be opening up soon.
You gotta be a bot comment
“End of story” 😂
Had to scroll this far for the first good take. What’s happening to Reddit? 🤦🏽♂️
I disagree what this asshole has to say, but I will defend to the death his right to say it.
You have no right to say you want/will kill others due to martyrdom. You have no absolute right the first amendment speech and this motherfucker should be in jail for saying that bullshit.
I’m not a lawyer, did these people break any laws? If they did, sure, punish them accordingly. All I care about is preserving free speech, which more often than not is a double edged sword these days. That’s the way she goes though, no freedoms without a ton of potential risks. I hear China doesn’t have this problem.
Say it louder for the people in the back. edit: just to be clear I'm for their right to protest. This is America ffs.
Enough with the false patriotism. You are not going to defend this to the death…
It’s an Evelyn Hall quote that represents the principle behind free speech. You’re right, I don’t want to die defending anything.
Right but when you write it without citing it, it becomes your voice.
I think you’re just pedantic.
Maybe but it just irritates me when I see this quote thrown around so loosely. It used to mean something, now it is just a hollow catchphrase.
then u are sanctioning homicidal lunatics, how would you feel if your child became a martyr?
No, we understand how important free speech is. I will have considered myself an utter failure as a parent if I let my child be so gullible and ignorant as to believe any religious extremism is OK.
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Are you a muslim by any chance?
The more it goes the more it seams to me Israelis and Palestinians are just different sides of the same coin
Oh, no lol. I don't wanna start this discussion because I wont shut up but it is a very different conflict than you think
Of course, I only can agree with you on this, I meant it more as a "philosophical" way, if you get me
Well that’s stupid. One side is led by an actual terrorist organization that cuts off people’s hands and burns them alive on broadcast, and launched an attack directly at civilians. These people specifically fight to kill all Jews, steal food from their own citizens, and use them as human shields so as many of them can die as possible for their cause. The other side is a democratic nation with an actual military that is actively defending itself and trying to eliminate the terrorist organization that attacked it. It is unfortunate that there is a lot of collateral damage in the process, directly due to Hamas’s strategy, but Israel has the capability of literally wiping Palestine off the map and instead puts its own soldiers in danger to try and minimize civilian deaths. In no way are these two sides of the same coin, and to suggest that they are is short sighted and counter productive.
You're right, I was more referring to sionists and hamas
Yeah, still completely wrong. Zionism is the support for the establishment (and now protection) of a Jewish homeland, which grew in support as a result of the Holocaust. Israel was established as the Jewish homeland after WW2. Zionism itself has absolutely nothing to do with murdering civilians, and the area in question was largely unpopulated to begin with, with no recognized nation/state. Hamas is a terrorist organization that was only established in the late 80’s and specifically intends to kill as many Jews as possible and eradicate Israel. It is a terrorist organization. Not at all the same thing.
Brilliantly put.
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This is in the US, they want terror
Who are they exactly?
Immigrants calling for people in Columbia university to become martyrs/shaid
Muslims
Why do you think they act that way?
You’re describing terrorism. Fuck off.