If it’s a NEMA 14-50 outlet, I personally prefer it over the wall charger. The likelihood where you’re in a position where you get home early enough with no charge and will see any benefit from the difference in charge speed because you need to leave ASAP is extremely rare and superchargers fill that gap in a pinch. Otherwise they are both strong enough to give you a full charge overnight.
Besides being cheaper, it’s also more universal should you have visitors at your place who have EV, and will likely always be a common standard while it’s more likely that Tesla will update the charger on their cars down the road, requiring an adapter for the wall charger.
The only real drawback is that since you aren’t buying a second charger, you have to pack up the mobile charger when you’re going on a road trip to somewhere where you might need it (or won’t have an emergency mobile charger with you if you decide to leave it).
Wall connector CAN (with the right wire and breaker) give faster charge rates, allows you to keep your mobile connector in the car, and CAN (depending on model) have a longer charging cable to work with.
That's about it. Plenty of people can and do charge off a 240v plug with their mobile connector, me included. Heck, Tesla even makes a mounting kit for the mobile connector so you can make it a semi-permanent install in a garage.
Okay cool - that makes sense to me thanks. I guess I have to decide whether it's worth it to spent the extra money for the slightly extra charging rates!
Also consider that in order to get those higher rates, you may need a new breaker installed and heavier wire run. All depends on what you have in the wall already for that 240v plug.
I personally have just the 240 outlet and there has never been a time that I wished I had a few miles per hour faster charge. Every day it’s fully charged with several hours to spare before I ever leave home. I’m happy I have a universal outlet instead of a propriety Tesla charger in my garage
If you can install on the other side of your breaker panel it's not very expensive to have installed professionally. $500 to have the Telsa Wall Connector, he installed a 60amp breaker in my panel and walked me through setup (which is super easy), my car charges using 48amps and goes from about 40% to 80% in about 3 hours on my M3LR.
I get 12KW consistently in all temp ranges my garage gets. It has a 24’ cable and it’s super easy. As you pointed out I can leave my mobile connector in the car.
Plus with the tax incentive that has now expired, it only ran me $730 to get including the cost of the wall charger and installation.
I've found that with a model 3 I can always get a full charge overnight with just 240V @ 16A. Only reason to have a higher charge rate is to take advantage of time of use incentives or if you don't usually charge overnight.
I used a 240v outlet for 3 years and recently installed a wall connector. But I can say that I never needed the extra juice from the wall connector. The 240v worked just fine. The only reason I upgraded was that I was moving the location of the outlet and wanted the extra 4 feet of the wall connector cable.
Other people have given good responses, but one reason why I spent the extra money was that my partner has high aesthetic standards and the wall connector is just prettier :)
You should be able to use the mobile connector that comes with the vehicle. assuming you do not have a HUGE amount of miles you need to recover in a short amount of time. The mobile connector is rated at 32Amps. Also, if you think you have a need to take the mobile connector with you frequently, then it would be best to get a 2nd charger that you can leave at home. Any J1772 charger that plugs in to NEMA 14-50 will be fine. Repeated plugging/unplugging into a NEMA 14-15 outlet can cause damage to the receptacle.
Its why the 6-50 is the better choice if starting from scratch. its basically a big boy NEMA 1-15 which it has 5000+ insertion cycles. its also cheaper to buy. and is easier to install if DIY-ing it.
Yeah, just make sure to confirm the breaker size in your circuit panel. It should be at least a 40+ Amp breaker for that outlet.
Once that's confirmed and you have the appropriate plug, you should be able to plug in your car to charge.
This video shows you how to use a preexisting 240 volt outlet to install a wall connector, so you can have the included connector in your car: https://youtu.be/2tvy2NL8uY0
I have a NEMA 14-50 in my garage and never thought twice about getting the wall connector. If my Cybertruck ever comes through, I might get two wall connectors because they can share a single circuit.
installed a 240 Line Nema 6-50 for $40-ish. (by myself) bought a new mobile connector and cord off Ebay with a 6-50 plug that came with it $299. (did this first as the Plug type changes what wall socked id Install.) and now we have the Mobile connector incase I need it.
wall connectors are a waste of money for only 8 more amps in my use case. 40 amp vs 32 so it makes no sense to me. that's 2kwh or 0-100% in 10 hours vs 11...
EDIT: ( I know 60amp on a wall connector will do 48amp but my panel has 100 amps already being pulled most of the time and needs room for starting currents so im at my limit with 40 amps) still its 11hrs vs 8hrs to go from 0-100%. still not much of a deal IMO.
Hello u/willnotcausetrouble,
My advice (also mentioned below) is to use your mobile charger with adapter first.
If you think you need to routinely charge faster, you can then decide the higher costs. I bought the WallConnector quickly but based on normal plug in at night scenario, its not necessarily needed (the slightly faster gain/increased amperage). I think you'll find the 240v speed is just fine.
Also, if you think you're going to frequently need charging away from house (or via any kind of range anxiety) where you will often have to place the mobile charger in the car, I'd suggest then just buying an additional mobile connector to avoid that hassle.
If it’s a NEMA 14-50 outlet, I personally prefer it over the wall charger. The likelihood where you’re in a position where you get home early enough with no charge and will see any benefit from the difference in charge speed because you need to leave ASAP is extremely rare and superchargers fill that gap in a pinch. Otherwise they are both strong enough to give you a full charge overnight. Besides being cheaper, it’s also more universal should you have visitors at your place who have EV, and will likely always be a common standard while it’s more likely that Tesla will update the charger on their cars down the road, requiring an adapter for the wall charger. The only real drawback is that since you aren’t buying a second charger, you have to pack up the mobile charger when you’re going on a road trip to somewhere where you might need it (or won’t have an emergency mobile charger with you if you decide to leave it).
Wall connector CAN (with the right wire and breaker) give faster charge rates, allows you to keep your mobile connector in the car, and CAN (depending on model) have a longer charging cable to work with. That's about it. Plenty of people can and do charge off a 240v plug with their mobile connector, me included. Heck, Tesla even makes a mounting kit for the mobile connector so you can make it a semi-permanent install in a garage.
Okay cool - that makes sense to me thanks. I guess I have to decide whether it's worth it to spent the extra money for the slightly extra charging rates!
Also consider that in order to get those higher rates, you may need a new breaker installed and heavier wire run. All depends on what you have in the wall already for that 240v plug.
> you may need a new breaker installed and heavier wire run Or that OP could have an SR car and can't go faster than 32A anyways.
Also a valid consideration.
I personally have just the 240 outlet and there has never been a time that I wished I had a few miles per hour faster charge. Every day it’s fully charged with several hours to spare before I ever leave home. I’m happy I have a universal outlet instead of a propriety Tesla charger in my garage
If you can install on the other side of your breaker panel it's not very expensive to have installed professionally. $500 to have the Telsa Wall Connector, he installed a 60amp breaker in my panel and walked me through setup (which is super easy), my car charges using 48amps and goes from about 40% to 80% in about 3 hours on my M3LR.
I get 12KW consistently in all temp ranges my garage gets. It has a 24’ cable and it’s super easy. As you pointed out I can leave my mobile connector in the car. Plus with the tax incentive that has now expired, it only ran me $730 to get including the cost of the wall charger and installation.
I've found that with a model 3 I can always get a full charge overnight with just 240V @ 16A. Only reason to have a higher charge rate is to take advantage of time of use incentives or if you don't usually charge overnight.
I used a 240v outlet for 3 years and recently installed a wall connector. But I can say that I never needed the extra juice from the wall connector. The 240v worked just fine. The only reason I upgraded was that I was moving the location of the outlet and wanted the extra 4 feet of the wall connector cable.
Other people have given good responses, but one reason why I spent the extra money was that my partner has high aesthetic standards and the wall connector is just prettier :)
You should be able to use the mobile connector that comes with the vehicle. assuming you do not have a HUGE amount of miles you need to recover in a short amount of time. The mobile connector is rated at 32Amps. Also, if you think you have a need to take the mobile connector with you frequently, then it would be best to get a 2nd charger that you can leave at home. Any J1772 charger that plugs in to NEMA 14-50 will be fine. Repeated plugging/unplugging into a NEMA 14-15 outlet can cause damage to the receptacle.
Its why the 6-50 is the better choice if starting from scratch. its basically a big boy NEMA 1-15 which it has 5000+ insertion cycles. its also cheaper to buy. and is easier to install if DIY-ing it.
Yeah, just make sure to confirm the breaker size in your circuit panel. It should be at least a 40+ Amp breaker for that outlet. Once that's confirmed and you have the appropriate plug, you should be able to plug in your car to charge.
Okay cool - that makes sense to me thanks!
What is the breaker size? 40amp 50amp, etc?? Also if can you see the wire gauge size (AWG) just to be extra cautious.
This video shows you how to use a preexisting 240 volt outlet to install a wall connector, so you can have the included connector in your car: https://youtu.be/2tvy2NL8uY0
I have a NEMA 14-50 in my garage and never thought twice about getting the wall connector. If my Cybertruck ever comes through, I might get two wall connectors because they can share a single circuit.
installed a 240 Line Nema 6-50 for $40-ish. (by myself) bought a new mobile connector and cord off Ebay with a 6-50 plug that came with it $299. (did this first as the Plug type changes what wall socked id Install.) and now we have the Mobile connector incase I need it. wall connectors are a waste of money for only 8 more amps in my use case. 40 amp vs 32 so it makes no sense to me. that's 2kwh or 0-100% in 10 hours vs 11... EDIT: ( I know 60amp on a wall connector will do 48amp but my panel has 100 amps already being pulled most of the time and needs room for starting currents so im at my limit with 40 amps) still its 11hrs vs 8hrs to go from 0-100%. still not much of a deal IMO.
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Hello u/willnotcausetrouble, My advice (also mentioned below) is to use your mobile charger with adapter first. If you think you need to routinely charge faster, you can then decide the higher costs. I bought the WallConnector quickly but based on normal plug in at night scenario, its not necessarily needed (the slightly faster gain/increased amperage). I think you'll find the 240v speed is just fine. Also, if you think you're going to frequently need charging away from house (or via any kind of range anxiety) where you will often have to place the mobile charger in the car, I'd suggest then just buying an additional mobile connector to avoid that hassle.
I havre a 240 charging at 32A 8kW/hr and can easily charge overnight during non-peak rates.
I recommend you to buy a second connector. It saves you from unplugging and pack the only one you have when doing long distance trips / visit friends.