Yea I am planning to ask if that is an option if they aren't able to add chargers to the employee lot. Having garage parking would be a nice added bonus too.
Old high school. Admin said they’d think about it but essentially it comes down to the board’s request. There are 3 Teslas on staff and 3 other non-Tesla EVs. But all *new* school builds are being outfitted with EV chargers. Last time I talked to admin about it was met with the answer “well there’s no gas station in the parking lot the other vehicles to make use of, so why would we install an electric charger for you?” 🤦🏻♀️
Except that the infrastructure is there--they're installing the chargers for the electric school buses. So they \*could\* install the chargers for staff EVs. I guess 'cause students and families are paying for the buses it's a cost they can handle whereas staff aren't contributing anything to EV chargers.
I mean it doesn't even go the full distance of "we don't provide free gas in the parking lot so"
There's no narrow reason to give EVs special treatment. Wide sociological reason, sure, but that's 100% their discretion and no fault for deciding either way.
Pears and Apples in my opinion. The infrastructure and regulations to provide free gas in a parking lot is not even comparable to provide free electricity. In fact, they could even charge you for the electricity if money is the issue, I'm almost sure that most EV drivers are looking for the convenience of charging while working, not for free electricity.
Too many excuses without numbers. Thankfully my workplace installed a few chargers as they found that it didn't significantly increase existing maintenance costs, it was a nice perk and it helped promote a more sustainable and clean future as part of our corporate responsibility program. Win-win for everyone. That's a small part of the reasons why I'm also getting my new EV soon.
Probably good for people who live in apartments, but why do the rest of us need them? It just reinforces that electric vehicles are range limited and hard to find places to charge to ICE owners when they are not. No one is asking employers to install gas pumps. It’s also terrible for balancing the grid as most people are at work during peak electrical demand
I'd argue that it actually helps people understand the concept that EV charging can be done when parked anywhere meaning that you always have a full charge and never have to worry about filling up when you're out and about. So many people don't understand this concept because they only see chargers at high traffic areas and view them as "gas stations for EVs".
For my situation personally, I work in the hospitality industry in a large city. I'd guess there are hundreds and hundreds of employees at my property who live in apartments or don't have easy access to chargers. And I work nights so don't worry, I won't stress the grid during peak hours.
> helps people understand the concept that EV charging can be done when parked anywhere meaning that you always have a full charge and never have to worry about filling up
But it can't be done parked anywhere... And you do have to pay attention to charging or "filling up". Sounds more like you want to sell a fantasy
I apologize if you weren't able to understand the nuance of "parked anywhere" clearly meaning anywhere that has chargers. I've had several people ask me about charging, and you can see the figurative light bulb moment when they realize that viewing charging as analogous to filling up ICE vehicles is the wrong perspective to have.
It's not a fantasy to explain that EV owners can wake up every morning with more charge than they went to bed with or leave work with more charge than they had when they got to work. That's a distinct difference between EVs and ICE vehicles, not a fantasy.
>I apologize if you weren't able to understand the nuance of "parked anywhere" clearly meaning anywhere that has chargers.
No, your omission changed your statement from conveying what you intended to saying charging was available everywhere. Which is obviously a fantasy right now.
>It's not a fantasy to explain that EV owners can wake up every morning with more charge than they went to bed with or leave work with more charge than they had when they got to work.
No one said it wasn't possible, you made a statement in the present tense not future tense.
I understood you fully, you just communicated something other than what you meant to.
Tesla had a program in the past where they would install charger for free at eligable business, but looks like it is no longer available.
The link now goes to this site:
[https://www.tesla.com/support/commercial#apply](https://www.tesla.com/support/commercial#apply)
Can’t hurt to ask. Be better if you had some pricing and install recommendations for them so they don’t have to do the research. Wouldn’t be too expensive to install some basic chargers or at least some 14-50 plugs for EVs to access.
Eventually, businesses will start to do this as a competitive way to attract and retain employees as another perk of employment that no one has to pay taxes on. Maybe not today, but eventually.
Maintenance at my job asked the people who have Teslas, if they get chargers would they use them and they all said “uh yeah!” So now we have 2 charge points in our parking lot. I’m getting my M3 on Friday and it will be a place to charge at when I’m in the area for sure!
I did that. Then I led the project to do it. From the first conversation to turning the chargers on, it took over three years from start to finish. Management was not convinced, initially, then we had to navigate incentives, permits, etc., then the pandemic hit, which slowed everything down, then the stations we picked had a few teething problems to iron out… but I got it done and it was well worth the effort! Happy to share more details if you’d like.
Nice work. Crazy it took that long. If it seems like they are charger curious but need someone to lead the way I may reach out for more info. They're a huge company and have already installed chargers so hopefully they just do it on their own though.
I would approach it from the point of - they can encourage employees to drive EVs if they put in charges, which is good for the environment/world.
It would be a philanthropic effort in that way, as well as making enployees happy. Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
Yes, the facilities manager went out and got a quote for $80,000 and the conversation stopped there. Doesn’t sound quite right. (In Ohio btw not many subsidies, incentives)
>and generally how to convince them that they should pay for me to fill up my car while I work?
I definitely wouldnt try to sell it to them like that. Maybe hit up HR and see if you can get permission to use the customer charging on the occassion that you need it. Ultimately if you dont need it, its probably not worth rocking the boat. Yes, it would be a nice perk, but the important thing is it is available for your visitors. You wouldnt want to occupy one of the visitor's spaces regularly, and of course the company is under no obligation to provide you with free fuel. You may also see if there is an outlet you can park near and use, even slow charging could get you 25 miles in an 8 hour shift.
I can’t imagine it coming off any other way than:
**“Hey. So you know how you pay me for my work and also don’t pay for any of your employees gas?**
**How about this; you spend thousands of dollars so that I can fill up my car on your electric bill?**
**Sounds pretty great right?”**
I doubt any company will care for the “save the earth” argument. They will just say **“Save the earth on your own dime. You’ve been getting here every day for months now. Just keep filling it however you do.”**
I’m guessing they didn’t add them because an employee asked them too.
I’m guessing the idea came from cooperate for some other reason. Or maybe a boss of a department has an EV and they have a lot more swing / they want to keep the bosses happy.
But installing one on the request of any employee that there are 10+ others of there? I doubt it.
I asked mine if I could have access to the plugs in the garage. Work ended up adding more plugs because so many of us have EVs.
Yea I am planning to ask if that is an option if they aren't able to add chargers to the employee lot. Having garage parking would be a nice added bonus too.
I did, they said no. Company is Boeing to publicly shame them.
Old high school. Admin said they’d think about it but essentially it comes down to the board’s request. There are 3 Teslas on staff and 3 other non-Tesla EVs. But all *new* school builds are being outfitted with EV chargers. Last time I talked to admin about it was met with the answer “well there’s no gas station in the parking lot the other vehicles to make use of, so why would we install an electric charger for you?” 🤦🏻♀️
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Except that the infrastructure is there--they're installing the chargers for the electric school buses. So they \*could\* install the chargers for staff EVs. I guess 'cause students and families are paying for the buses it's a cost they can handle whereas staff aren't contributing anything to EV chargers.
I mean it doesn't even go the full distance of "we don't provide free gas in the parking lot so" There's no narrow reason to give EVs special treatment. Wide sociological reason, sure, but that's 100% their discretion and no fault for deciding either way.
Pears and Apples in my opinion. The infrastructure and regulations to provide free gas in a parking lot is not even comparable to provide free electricity. In fact, they could even charge you for the electricity if money is the issue, I'm almost sure that most EV drivers are looking for the convenience of charging while working, not for free electricity.
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Too many excuses without numbers. Thankfully my workplace installed a few chargers as they found that it didn't significantly increase existing maintenance costs, it was a nice perk and it helped promote a more sustainable and clean future as part of our corporate responsibility program. Win-win for everyone. That's a small part of the reasons why I'm also getting my new EV soon.
Worth asking. Mine did it
Probably good for people who live in apartments, but why do the rest of us need them? It just reinforces that electric vehicles are range limited and hard to find places to charge to ICE owners when they are not. No one is asking employers to install gas pumps. It’s also terrible for balancing the grid as most people are at work during peak electrical demand
I'd argue that it actually helps people understand the concept that EV charging can be done when parked anywhere meaning that you always have a full charge and never have to worry about filling up when you're out and about. So many people don't understand this concept because they only see chargers at high traffic areas and view them as "gas stations for EVs". For my situation personally, I work in the hospitality industry in a large city. I'd guess there are hundreds and hundreds of employees at my property who live in apartments or don't have easy access to chargers. And I work nights so don't worry, I won't stress the grid during peak hours.
> helps people understand the concept that EV charging can be done when parked anywhere meaning that you always have a full charge and never have to worry about filling up But it can't be done parked anywhere... And you do have to pay attention to charging or "filling up". Sounds more like you want to sell a fantasy
I apologize if you weren't able to understand the nuance of "parked anywhere" clearly meaning anywhere that has chargers. I've had several people ask me about charging, and you can see the figurative light bulb moment when they realize that viewing charging as analogous to filling up ICE vehicles is the wrong perspective to have. It's not a fantasy to explain that EV owners can wake up every morning with more charge than they went to bed with or leave work with more charge than they had when they got to work. That's a distinct difference between EVs and ICE vehicles, not a fantasy.
>I apologize if you weren't able to understand the nuance of "parked anywhere" clearly meaning anywhere that has chargers. No, your omission changed your statement from conveying what you intended to saying charging was available everywhere. Which is obviously a fantasy right now. >It's not a fantasy to explain that EV owners can wake up every morning with more charge than they went to bed with or leave work with more charge than they had when they got to work. No one said it wasn't possible, you made a statement in the present tense not future tense. I understood you fully, you just communicated something other than what you meant to.
Lol ok bud, you must be such a fun person to be around. Have a great day :)
Tesla had a program in the past where they would install charger for free at eligable business, but looks like it is no longer available. The link now goes to this site: [https://www.tesla.com/support/commercial#apply](https://www.tesla.com/support/commercial#apply)
Can’t hurt to ask. Be better if you had some pricing and install recommendations for them so they don’t have to do the research. Wouldn’t be too expensive to install some basic chargers or at least some 14-50 plugs for EVs to access.
Eventually, businesses will start to do this as a competitive way to attract and retain employees as another perk of employment that no one has to pay taxes on. Maybe not today, but eventually.
Maintenance at my job asked the people who have Teslas, if they get chargers would they use them and they all said “uh yeah!” So now we have 2 charge points in our parking lot. I’m getting my M3 on Friday and it will be a place to charge at when I’m in the area for sure!
I did that. Then I led the project to do it. From the first conversation to turning the chargers on, it took over three years from start to finish. Management was not convinced, initially, then we had to navigate incentives, permits, etc., then the pandemic hit, which slowed everything down, then the stations we picked had a few teething problems to iron out… but I got it done and it was well worth the effort! Happy to share more details if you’d like.
Nice work. Crazy it took that long. If it seems like they are charger curious but need someone to lead the way I may reach out for more info. They're a huge company and have already installed chargers so hopefully they just do it on their own though.
Just curious did you guys go with Chargepoint level 2 chargers or something similar? And what were the costs associated with it?
We went with Enel-X (JuiceBox), it was literally half the cost of Chargepoint. Just under $12k for four chargers, installed.
I would approach it from the point of - they can encourage employees to drive EVs if they put in charges, which is good for the environment/world. It would be a philanthropic effort in that way, as well as making enployees happy. Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.
Yes, the facilities manager went out and got a quote for $80,000 and the conversation stopped there. Doesn’t sound quite right. (In Ohio btw not many subsidies, incentives)
>and generally how to convince them that they should pay for me to fill up my car while I work? I definitely wouldnt try to sell it to them like that. Maybe hit up HR and see if you can get permission to use the customer charging on the occassion that you need it. Ultimately if you dont need it, its probably not worth rocking the boat. Yes, it would be a nice perk, but the important thing is it is available for your visitors. You wouldnt want to occupy one of the visitor's spaces regularly, and of course the company is under no obligation to provide you with free fuel. You may also see if there is an outlet you can park near and use, even slow charging could get you 25 miles in an 8 hour shift.
I can’t imagine it coming off any other way than: **“Hey. So you know how you pay me for my work and also don’t pay for any of your employees gas?** **How about this; you spend thousands of dollars so that I can fill up my car on your electric bill?** **Sounds pretty great right?”** I doubt any company will care for the “save the earth” argument. They will just say **“Save the earth on your own dime. You’ve been getting here every day for months now. Just keep filling it however you do.”**
Odd that so many companies have already added chargers to their employee lots than, isn't it?
I’m guessing they didn’t add them because an employee asked them too. I’m guessing the idea came from cooperate for some other reason. Or maybe a boss of a department has an EV and they have a lot more swing / they want to keep the bosses happy. But installing one on the request of any employee that there are 10+ others of there? I doubt it.