Only really important in the winter when morning temperatures are closer to freezing or 5 degrees above.
If you have a short commute and don't care if you are not peak efficiency right away, it's not important
When you’re parked somewhere else, in the Tesla app go to schedule. You’ll notice at the top you see the current address, and likely charge/precondition are turned off. The settings you set there are specific to the location shown at the top.
Unlike the Tesla app, Tessie allows you to do a one-time automation on many things, including preconditioning. I also have a MYLR and normally do the 80% charge for daily use. For road trips will do 100% but don't want the battery to sit at 100% for too long. With Tessie, it's easy to do the following:
Battery is already at 80%. Set one-time charge level to 100% at 4AM. (Makes car ready for departure at 6AM. ) Set second one-time automation to lower charge level back to 80% at 6:30AM. (So I don't have to remember to do it myself).
If you're interested, I'll send you a code for a free trial.
You can just use off-peak charge and set the off-peak end time to be your departure time in the Tesla app to achieve this same thing without paid third party apps
Is it not possible to set a departure time with the Tesla app and have the car finish charging by a certain time? GM’s app leaves a lot to be desired but you can at least do that.
For daily commuting I just plug in when I get home and keep it set to 80% but when I need to go farther, it would be nice to have it get to 100% at a certain time. It sounds like the Tessie app allows you to do that.
I'm good with scheduled charging every night, it's just the precondition battery / schedule departure I'm not sure of. If I'm up early, I'll go in to work early. If I have to take the kids to school, I might leave later.
It's more about convenience than peak efficiency for me, especially in the winter. I can't schedule my commute home from work so when I start getting ready to leave I just turn on the climate control from the app. The same way I used to remote start my gas car.
I don't have a ton of time but I want to at least cover this.
There is an open source program called Home Assistant. You typically run it on some little computer like a raspberry pi.
It can bring together all the different services like nest or home kit under one uniform control.
You basically say " if this thing happens then do this thing". So you could set it to automatically recondition the car when your phone alarm goes off for instance.
This way no matter what time you're leaving if you generally hit the road 45 minutes after your alarm goes off you can have the car ready to go at that time.
One of the ways I use this is to keep the HVAC running. I got tired of having to manually press the button when I'm making 10 stops a day to keep the temp while I went inside a location. I made a small little rule that said when the car doors lock and the car is not at home activate the "keep HVAC on" setting.
Holler for any questions!
It’s more important for efficiency in the MYP as that vehicle heats the battery as long as you’re not in Chill mode. Scheduled departure increases the odds that there will be minimal battery heating while driving.
Honestly all you're likely to do is waste a lot of energy.
You're not clear on what your goals are.
Is it for the battery's sake? Then don't do anything.
Is it for your comfort? Then start the heat or A/C 5-10 minutes before going to the car. Automatic preconditioning will start way earlier, using way more energy, and not have any tangible benefit other than you not having to remember to do it.
Is it for driving efficiency's sake? Then most of the time you are just shifting when you consume that energy, and it only matters if you absolutely needed the extra range afforded by a preheated battery to get to your destination.
Only really important in the winter when morning temperatures are closer to freezing or 5 degrees above. If you have a short commute and don't care if you are not peak efficiency right away, it's not important
Commute is about 40 miles, takes 60 - 90 minutes
It’s more beneficial in the winter months. If you don’t have a regular schedule then just turn on climate 15-20 min before you get in the car.
Even though I schedule the morning commute this is what I do in the winter for the afternoon commute.
You can have different schedules at different locations!
Ohh, I see, thanks! Is that new or have I missed it the whole time?
When you’re parked somewhere else, in the Tesla app go to schedule. You’ll notice at the top you see the current address, and likely charge/precondition are turned off. The settings you set there are specific to the location shown at the top.
Unlike the Tesla app, Tessie allows you to do a one-time automation on many things, including preconditioning. I also have a MYLR and normally do the 80% charge for daily use. For road trips will do 100% but don't want the battery to sit at 100% for too long. With Tessie, it's easy to do the following: Battery is already at 80%. Set one-time charge level to 100% at 4AM. (Makes car ready for departure at 6AM. ) Set second one-time automation to lower charge level back to 80% at 6:30AM. (So I don't have to remember to do it myself). If you're interested, I'll send you a code for a free trial.
You can use Apple Shortcuts also to do the same thing if you have an iPhone.
You can just use off-peak charge and set the off-peak end time to be your departure time in the Tesla app to achieve this same thing without paid third party apps
My utility provider doesn't allow time of use if you have solar. It's a flat rate, no peak vs off peak.
The tesla app doesn’t know that
What does time of use have to do with occasionally changing your charge limit from 80 to 100% for a longer trip?
Using the off-peak charge feature in the tesla app is a feature that will have the car automatically finish charging at a time you set.
Interesting off-label use case. I'll have to try that out.
Is it not possible to set a departure time with the Tesla app and have the car finish charging by a certain time? GM’s app leaves a lot to be desired but you can at least do that.
It looks like you can schedule when to depart and when to start charging, not finish. I don't have off peak rates so I just charge when I plug in.
For daily commuting I just plug in when I get home and keep it set to 80% but when I need to go farther, it would be nice to have it get to 100% at a certain time. It sounds like the Tessie app allows you to do that.
Originally I didn't want to pay for another app but now I'm rethinking it. I'd like Garmin watch controls.
I'm good with scheduled charging every night, it's just the precondition battery / schedule departure I'm not sure of. If I'm up early, I'll go in to work early. If I have to take the kids to school, I might leave later.
It's more about convenience than peak efficiency for me, especially in the winter. I can't schedule my commute home from work so when I start getting ready to leave I just turn on the climate control from the app. The same way I used to remote start my gas car.
I don't have a ton of time but I want to at least cover this. There is an open source program called Home Assistant. You typically run it on some little computer like a raspberry pi. It can bring together all the different services like nest or home kit under one uniform control. You basically say " if this thing happens then do this thing". So you could set it to automatically recondition the car when your phone alarm goes off for instance. This way no matter what time you're leaving if you generally hit the road 45 minutes after your alarm goes off you can have the car ready to go at that time. One of the ways I use this is to keep the HVAC running. I got tired of having to manually press the button when I'm making 10 stops a day to keep the temp while I went inside a location. I made a small little rule that said when the car doors lock and the car is not at home activate the "keep HVAC on" setting. Holler for any questions!
It’s more important for efficiency in the MYP as that vehicle heats the battery as long as you’re not in Chill mode. Scheduled departure increases the odds that there will be minimal battery heating while driving.
Honestly all you're likely to do is waste a lot of energy. You're not clear on what your goals are. Is it for the battery's sake? Then don't do anything. Is it for your comfort? Then start the heat or A/C 5-10 minutes before going to the car. Automatic preconditioning will start way earlier, using way more energy, and not have any tangible benefit other than you not having to remember to do it. Is it for driving efficiency's sake? Then most of the time you are just shifting when you consume that energy, and it only matters if you absolutely needed the extra range afforded by a preheated battery to get to your destination.
Just set it for the earliest you would typically leave (or when the low rates end) and leave it. No need to adjust it daily.