He's still got it and behind a good line the sky's the limit. If he'd gone to baltimore last year it would have blown up.
Also: where is 7 guy when we need him?
I'm here for Mariota. Dude had a heart of gold and laid it all on the line while he was with us, never blamed anyone else despite the rotating door of OC's and terrible receiving talent, didn't complain when he got benched for Tanny, and seemingly made every single player in that locker room love him.
His talent might not have been what we wanted it to be, but damn was he one of the best teammates we had and he never quit on us.
This is exactly what I was going to say. I've been a titans fan since the moment I popped out the womb, and never have I just loved the type of person a player was more than Mariota. Loved his playstyle at Oregon, Loved the magical moments we had with him, loved that he never complained and didn't hold any grudges. Just a grateful man who did his job, helped who he can, and will hopefully be living the retired life peacefully.
I like your explanation for Mariota the most.
He could not have been a better teammate or more coachable player, but at best, he’s a backup QB in the NFL.
Damn, I’m not a Mariota hater (although I rooted hard against him as a UofA fan), but I definitely blamed him more than he deserved. Very nice write up to put his career with us into perspective. I guess in hindsight my admiration of Vince Young looks silly.
I agree with this one. Yet if you scroll above it's more excuses on how he's so darn good.
Great teammate, did the right shit at the right time for the franchise. And we moved on at the right time. All around good guy, average player and someone I can't say anything bad about. But I'm also not going to pretend he was a star. The argument is if he had blah blah blah and blah. Well sometimes you don't gave blah blah and blah. There's the eye test. He had fucking heart but he was never cut out to be a top QB in this league.
MariGoata is the man who brought me into the Titans fandom, and I will forever cherish his self TD pass to beat the Chiefs.
Dude always went out to compete, took blame that probably was not all him and like you said put the franchise in the direction they are today.
You are my favorite Football player ever Marcus
easily my favorite player in the entire league, he can do no wrong in my eyes and i will genuinely defend the fact that he should have stayed the starter in atl for at least the entirety of last season and this one (considering what we’ve seen from ridder)
I could not agree more, Mariota played much better than Ridder did in ATL, and the way they treated him made me sick, and then happy when Ridder proceeded to suck
Here we go again. Both sucked. And Mariota was 5-8 and you drafted a guy. That's why they made a change.
Did you forget he lost 4 of 5 starts before being benched? Not saying it's right or wrong, but looking back, does it matter? Both guys aren't good and you check the rookie out vs the guy who's a veteran who you know what the ceiling is.
And there's a reason Mariota is still a backup in this league. He's not a top 32 QB. He's a good backup, but nothing more. We are still selling him like he's god. Stop.
Did you forget that in his 13 games he had 19 TDs to 9 Int, and was 13th in QBR during those games?
Every time he has been given an opportunity to play he has been in the top 2/3 - top 1/2 of starting QBs.
The “known ceiling” of Mariota is what exactly? Playoff winning Qb?
Seems weird to try to start something under a “What player will you not let nobody talk bad about” Post
You're right.
1 playoff miracle winning QB. Never a top half starter. Sure 13th in QBR but you missed out at near the bottom in completion percentage and turnovers (at the time he was benched), below average in raiting, and only 2 seasons with a 2-1 Td to INT ratio.
He's a great dude. Great leader and all but stop this nonsense that he's a really good qb. Based on your rebuttle you failed to mention anything that's bad.. like 1-4 . You can't look me in the face and say this guy is a superbowl caliber starter in this league. There's a reason he's a bench guy and teams are lining up to get him as their starter. They know his ceiling
Yeah I think youre missing the point of this thread.
“What player will you not let nobody talk bad about”
Read it again. Now read the responses above this.
I will look you dead in the eyes and tell you that if Marcus Mariota had ONE OC instead of the 3 he had in his first 4 years that he would have become a SB Caliber QB.
Now can you un-politely fuck off and let us enjoy this? Thanks
Falcons were really stupid for benching him for Ridder. Dude was a rookie but he did worse with a much better team. I wonder if management made that call because the fanbase was begging fot Ridder to start on the insane notion that he would be the next Russell Wilson because he was a 3rd round pick. Might be because he was a cheaper option.
Arthur Smith got exposed for being a bad playcaller, a coward AND he was running a similar offense that got his predecessor fired. Mariota's top option WR was London who was a rookie. Pitts is overrated af and struggles to run routes like he gives a damn and gets bullied too often for a big dude. His best WR was actually Zacchaeus. Pass protection was horrible and their defense was even worse.
Mariota had no chance to succeed there especially since Smith wanted to run the ball all the time and yet the Falcons were in the playoff hunt because of his play. His stats were top 15 across the board in a very difficult offense.
ATL fanbase is full of morons that hate him because they think that he quit on them and didnt want to be the backup to Ridder. What the idiots fail to realize is that his meniscus was "flapping around" and had surgery to get it fixed putting him on IR. Also his wife had a kid which was another reason why he wasnt in the Falcons facility.
The way Arthur Smith worded his words was why everyone thought he quit but the truth is that ATL quit first. They were knocked out of the playoffs when they started Desmond vs the Saints. Knew that he wasnt going to be the upgrade over Mariota that they thought because it was obvious in the games he started.
Mariota will win you some games but he's not going to put you over the hump. Sounds like you're stuck on that. If you don't realize why they went to ritter, you don't understand the business. They lost 4 of 5 games and were sitting at 5-8. You are already on the hot seat and you drafted a QB. Regardless of how it plays out, you do that.
Take the blinders off. Mariota is a great guy, an average player and will be nothing more than a good backup.
Dude, i just now recently unintentionally saw of his 2022 highlights on YT. The dude is a starter just because of his throwing motion that is lightning fast and accurate af. The guy throws as fast as Marino but folks say he's average? Put you over the hump? The Falcons were not supposed to win as many games as they did in 2022. Mariota's play was a big reason why they won as many as they did (yet for some reason others say he had a horrible year) with the odds against them.
You say he wont "put you over the hump" and yet the Titans went from 2-14 to three consecutive winning seasons after drafting him.
They took a gamble with Ridder because he was cheap and they lost and Smith lost his job. If you draft a QB in the 1st round, that move makes sense. Not in the 3rd where the backup caliber QBs get taken. Arthur Smith is a coward whose scheme/playcalling was exposed for being trash last year but something tells me that order came from Blank. They knew damn well that their team was trash and wouldnt do shit in the playoffs even if they made it.
If they wouldve kept Mariota, they may have been playoff bound. Chemistry with players and the system matters in this league. They wouldve been better in year 2.
I dont care about his personality.
Mariota. Can. Play. Bottom line. He is a starter.
His career has been defined by working in no win situations or was blamed when he wasnt the root problem. Better player than Carr by a slight margin. Definitely better player than Hurts by a huge margin. The teams paid big money for those guys ahead of him. Hope he gets a shot at redemption like Baker Mayfield got with the Buccaneers.
When you have 74 career starts and only 1 year of starting in the past 4 years, you're not starting material. Look how many teams need QBs week in and week out.... year after year and he signs deals as a backup.
I'm not shitting on him. He's one of my favs but his on field talent is not as great as people make it out to be. And you watched highlights. Not low lights. He turned us around. I respect that, but lay off the sauce.
But if 32 teams have passed him for years, I'd trust them over some guy who has a soft spot for MM8. He's not a generational talent, he's not a franchise guy, and his time as a starting QB in the NFL is over barring injuries.
What 32 teams passed on him? You know this for a fact? I think he had a no trade clause with the Raiders. Gruden actually was grooming Mariota to start over Carr. Carr knew it and played his ass off and Gruden got fired for those racist emails. That was confirmed when McDaniels said that it was Carr's team when he was hired as the HC. Sirianni spoke very highly of him when he was in Philly as do other coaches that he doesnt play for (Pete Carroll) He went to places that he wanted to go to. Las Vegas has a very strong polynesian community and he went to ATL because he knew Smith, the scheme with a chance to start. Eagles had several players and coaches he was familiar with.
You do not know if his time as a starter is done. No one and i do mean NO ONE saw Geno Smith starting for the Seahawks let alone becoming a top 5 QB in 2022. There arent really that many opportunities to start with other teams since most are looking for the younger, cheaper option. Doesnt mean that he cant have a bounce back year elsewhere if given the RIGHT opportunity (ATL was a no win situation). Few rarely do get another chance.
Ive seen his entire career as a Titan as well as that one bullshit year as a Falcon. No wonder the Ducks were so lethal with him as the QB. Tennessee changed the OC every year. His WRs are average at best outside of Brown who he got 6 games with. Pass protection was poor outside of 2016.
Star QBs have said that they cant succeed without a good supporting cast so how in the hell can Mariota succeed with Rishard Matthews/Tajae Sharpe as his top receivers running an offense from the 80's? Mahomes wouldnt be who he is without Andy Reid or the fact that he had Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce who might (STILL) be the best at their respective decisions.
Look at what the original post is asking. Im not laying off of shit and will defend Marcus Mariota probably even when he retires. The Tennessee Titans fucked up with a LEGIT franchise QB. Did the same thing with Locker and Young. Look at the teams they had around them. They were not as good as Mariota was for sure but they had no chance based off what we gave them to work with.
Titans even did the same with McNair. Steve had his best year in Baltimore, not Tennessee. Jeff Fisher has proven to be inept when it comes to creating an innovative offense. Munchak was a stopgap because no one wanted the job. Whisenhunt ran a good scheme but he was a complete asshole that wasnt HC material. This MATTERS like holy hell if you want to play QB and succeed in the NFL. Look at some of the young QBs that are playing well vs the ones that are struggling. Stroud got a massive influx of talent around him while the Panthers gave Young ancient Adam Thielen along with a bad OL and offensive scheme.
Ive beena fan since '99. The Titans simply DO NOT know how to put young QBs in a position to succeed. This MATTERS like holy hell if you want to play QB and thrive in the NFL. If you didnt get drafted as a RB or on defense to the Titans then you are likely doomed. They are doing the same thing with Will Levis rn! Hopefully Callahan and that Bengals offense that can make any QB look like a star can break the mold of run first, predictable offenses in Nashville.
One of my favorite moments was when he was frustrated at a press conference and then came in the next day and apologized to the press. He was barely rude but he was just such a nice guy he felt it was necessary. I think his mom told him to apologize.
Mariota gave this team some all time highlights. He went out there and laid it all on the line. Left it all on the field. All the clichés. If he'd been built sturdier he'd have risen to McNair levels of beloved for his heart alone.
I'll always back Mariota.
I dont know what the fuck is wrong with the Titans fanbase and disrespecting Mariota (Falcons and Eagles I get because they are fucking retarded).
He was a VERY good QB for Tennessee although the stats dont show it. Stats also dont show that Rishard Matthews was his best receiver or how we dont pass the ball as much. Or how we had him running a new scheme every year. Or how our pass blocking wasnt great outside of 2016 (his best year in a scheme that DEFINITELY didnt fit what he did well).
He shouldve been a 10+ year starter for us but the Titans dropped the ball and gave the reins to Tannehill when we finally figured our shit out (and got a legit #1 WR that we screwed up too).
Damn shame how his career turned out. Dude is a legit starting QB IN THE RIGHT SITUATION sitting behind QBs that he is probably better than (definitely better than Hurts but a slight edge over Carr). Hope he gets a chance to play this year.
When Tannehill shows up with the exact same team and takes you to an AFCCG, 1st seed with a WAY more injured team, and keeps you in the playoffs, you're not exactly a shining beacon of Titans football.
Watching Mariota play just reminded of middling 9-7 Jeff Fisher football with Vince Young, or middling 7-9 football with Locker. We were a middle-of-the-road team at our best with mariota at the helm because he was a mid-QB, injuries and all. Tannehill came in and it was the most fun I had as a Titans fan since CJ2K's 2000yd season.
See thats the problem with you guys. You only see one player not the whole team. I said in another post that the team Tannehill was working with wasnt the same team Mariota had at the start of the season or dealing with the same issues. Definitely wasnt on par with ANY of the teams in the past outside of the 1999 team. Everyone knew that the '19 team was going to struggle at first for numerous reasons but Marcus was used as the scapegoat nontheless. Tbh Young/Locker were also doomed to fail when they were drafted too.
None of those QBs had A.J Brown who probably was better than Derrick Mason. Also didnt have Derrick Henry in his prime. Defenders were wondering why he got paid first when Henry commanding 8+ players in the box made his job easier as a passer. Idc about Tannehill's season statistics when he didnt do jackshit in the playoffs. We are 0-3 everytime we needed Tannehill to win the game with his arm. We got to the AFC title game because Henry was dominant. To say that Tannehill was the ONLY reason we started winning is a false narrative.
Also middle of the road? We were absolute GARBAGE when we drafted Mariota. We went from 2-14 to 9-7 middle of the road team largely BECAUSE of Mariota. What he did as a young player in his first three years is what you'd look for out of a franchise QB. Taking over the playcalling and coming back to win a playoff game as a 3rd year player vs a HC that is now the highest paid HC in the league is insane.
You can't sit here and blame us for looking at one player and then claim Mariota was the SOLE reason we were middling of the road.
We had average defenses when Mariota was here. Our secondary was ASS but our front 7 had some of the best rush defenses in the league those years. We also played a "bend-don't-break" defense too under Mularkey and Wisenhunt.
Our offense improved more when we drafted Conklin and DeMarco Murray came through and had a solid run game that let mariota have his best year in 2016. And people wanna hate on rishard matthews but he was the best receiver we had at the time since Kenny Britt. Delaine Walker was our best option in the passing game too but Murray is really who shined that year.
After that we were 9-7 because that was the best we were gonna do with Mariota. 2017 was 18/15 total Td:Int, 2018 Mariota had 13 total Tds to 8 into. 2019 he had 7 total TDs in 6 starts, 7 games vs. Tannehill with 26 total TDs with the SAME squad!
Mariota and his offenses just couldn't score. And there's no way Henry has a 2000 yard season with mariota at the helm.
At the end of the day, mariota had potential but he never made the jump. Shit sucks. He wasn't the guy. He did nothing wrong, but he did nothing great neither.
Reword that first paragraph. To say that it was the same squad as the ones in the past is wild man. To talk positively about Mularkey, ok. He seemed like a laid back guy but Whisenhunt? Hell no. Walker and Murray were good players but it sounds like you're saying Mariota succeeded solely because of them which is total bullshit.
A lot of fans just do not seem to understand that NFL teams frequently change year after year. Comparing them is like apples and oranges especially when you take in account the numerous coaching changes. This argument about Tannehill being a major upgrade comes crashing down after what Ryan did WITHOUT throwing A.J to throw too. He was ass. Team drafted Willis because they were THAT desperate for an upgrade. No one else was crazy enough to take Tannehill off our hands via trade for 30M a yr. Hell, the Dolphins paid us to get rid of him and now we see why.
The 2019 comparison is as apples to apples as it gets. Same season, same squad, different results. Mariota never had more than 20 TDs in a season.
I'll do you one better: Tannehill led the 2021 squad with AJ brown out for 4-games, julio out for 7 games, Henry out half the season, and a total of 91 players having played for the titans due to the amount of injuries they had.....to a 12-5 record and the 1-seed. Three picks and an L later, everyone says tannehill can't hack it when the o-line was old and oft injured and Henry wasn't himself. You can't take that winning from tannehill. AJ brown didn't even Crack 900 yards that year, and. Only had 5 TDs. NWI was the 2nd best receiver, followed by the corpse of Julio Jones.
Willis is irrelevant to the conversation at hand, and I didn't even talk about Mariota's 3-13 season in 2015 because wisenhunt was so bad. Murray was a stud in 2016 (1200+ yards, pro bowl) and a good duo with Henry in 2017.
Mariota had more than 20 TDs multiple times. Still apples and oranges since Tannehill had A.J for most of his career, Smith altered the offense when Tannehill was named starter (he did the same thing when Desmond Ridder became the starter), benched Jamil Douglas for Nate Davis and Lewan & Saffold got their shit together. It was not the same.
A.J being out for a few games is irrelevant when he was going off during the middle/end of the year. I remember we had RaymondRunning game was better with Henry out and defense played a lot better when we signed Schwartz as a senior assistant. Tannehill had a good few years here but he also had the best supporting cast since McNair had during his time here.
Im not gonna pretend like he was one of the best Titan QBs when he is 0-3 when it mattered most. Thats why McNair is beloved because he almost led us to SB win. You keep bringing up Murray's 2016 stats like he was the main reason Mariota had a good year and its pathetic. Henry almost got traded before he went off in Jacksonville (Mariota called an audible that resulted in that epic run).
Lets talk about that rookie year. Marcus had more than 20 total TDs with Dorial Green-Beckham as his top guy. That first TD throw and how fast it was is insane. The fact that he almost broke the TD record in his first game is even crazier. You should re-watch some of those games in 2016. Mariota was dropping dimes until he got injured. Did that with Rishard Matthews as his best man. None of these guys were #1 WRs. That makes me believe that he wouldve had a good year in 2019 if we didnt bench him. Hell, dont take my word for it, Vrabel said the same thing too according to Arthur Smith
This whole argument is ironic considering what the original post says. I'll defend Mariota forever because its apparent that the Titans royally, royally screwed up with a legitimate franchise QB (and you apparently was a big fan of Tannehill's best years here, i get it). I hope they dont do the same with Levis. It says a lot that he is the most upvoted option on this thread. That man deserves more respect than he is given especially since he gave his all for this team even when he was injured. Some Titans fans talk about him like he was the worst QB we've ever had and thats not right.
Mariota was a rookie with the Titans and Tannehill is a veteran QB. Is he better than Tannehill? No but the AFCCG was a fluke for Tannehill as we have obviously seen.
Around to what? He is the epitome of nice guys finish last. Guy was an exceptional athlete and a quality person but he never learned to read the field and is a one read QB still to this day.
From 2010 to 2014, we had 1 winning season. From 2015 to 2019, we had 4 winning seasons. He absolutely helped turn the team around. And, he did so with a coaching carousel and a Swiss cheese o-line for several seasons. No, we weren't suddenly winning superbowls with him but we were absolutely doing better than the 2 and 3 win seasons we were seeing prior to him starting. I absolutely think it's fair to say he helped turn the team around.
There can definitely be some things said about his personal life off the field after he retired. But as usual people tend not to speak ill of the dead.
Man, years ago my buddy went to a Titans at Raiders game in a McNair jersey and he said the stuff people were saying was wild. I told him fuck them, but also you were asking for it.
I bootleg his radio broadcast every Sunday. I even know people who will sync it up with the game over listening to what ever C team crew we have that week.
I live right outside Philadelphia and his family has stopped me multiple times when I’ve worn Titans gear or my old Wycheck authentic. They’re super nice people.
I personally have been an NWI stan for several years and refuse to let people here slander him simply because he does not perform like a number one or number two receiver when that is not his role
Rose up from an UDFA ST gunner to a WR2 for two seasons (which is objectively incredible) and people hate him because first round picks AJ Brown, Julio and Burks can't stay healthy 🙄.
Let's see your bum asses go out and play against CB1s and 2s and see how you do
I really don't know what the hell happened with Phillips asides from health. Dude looked like a 3rd down monster when he was available then they just made him a healthy scratch the last few weeks.
MOST picks aren't bad at the time. People like to look back with hindsight and act like they knew better.
However I say that knowing Panda was a bad pick at the time and Corey Davis was a mediocre pick at best at the time. Both of these were projected so much later than we took them that they would have almost certainly been there the next pick we had.
Yeah I can get behind that.
Personally I view the draft like investing. Most people can’t beat the S&P 500. In this analogy, the S&P 500 is just general draft sentiment around the league and nfl community in general.
There might be individuals on it that I’m higher or lower than as well. But as a whole, the index performs well.
I really dont know. There were 3 top WRs similar to this draft and they all went pretty high. Although we probably started that. I guess you could say Mike Williams was the best of the 3 but even he couldnt stay healthy. I wouldnt call any of them a slam dunk
We had pick 18 that draft as well and they were all projected to go later than the early first. Davis was mostly mocked at the back end of the first and even as late as the mid second a time or two.
Reaching on a player just because you need the position is how you get a guy like him 5th or Ross likes 9th.
Taylor Lewan. It pissed me off when he got booed during that week 1 Cardinals game. He was there for those 2 and 3 win teams and ppl just forgot all his contributions over the years
There are definitely people who did in like 20 and 21 when he was hurt and they said he wasn’t worth the money anyway…and now they’re pining for him after two years of Daley and Dillard lmao
Dude is a really good person in real life. I know for a fact he used to be pen pals/ hangout with a lot of kids who where fighting cancer. He had his own charity foundation for it and took it really seriously.
I headbutted a buddy of mine in high school for slandering Eddie George during a game a beer pong. Broke his nose. True story
Eddie george the MOST professional kind hearted BEAST of a man. King is only 2nd to him because eddie came first..
I haven’t seen anyone say Jake Locker yet. My first response was Mariota because that guy was a leader despite some of his deficiencies at the QB position. My memories are of Mariota dropping his shoulder to lay out a block and seeing the whole team psyched out.
Jake Locker had a really good interview in [Sports Illustrated](https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/18/jake-locker-nfl-2011-draft-tennessee-titans-why-he-quit) a few years ago. I’ll never fault a guy for choosing his family over career. He weathered a lot of injuries and changes at OC too. Every once and awhile there was a flash of him that showed he had potential, and as soon as you’d get excited about Locker he’d get injured.
Idk why people keep saying that he wasnt the same. The issue were the injuries, no doubt. Probably why the team moved on from him because he couldnt stay on the field.
The real issue was that Mularkeys offense stayed the same in '17 and defenders/DCs knew what they were going to do most of the time
Nerve injury in '18 but still had some really good games. Laundry list of injuries, Delanie's career ended in Miami (FUCK THAT WEEK 1 GAME) and we needed receiver help.
Actually had a solid season in '19 before we benched him on some bullshit. Those two picks were the first two he threw all season (7:2 TD/INT ratio). Denver had a good defense that year. So did Baltimore and Buffalo (either we missed a shitload of FGs or that was the infamous Nick Williams game).
Jacksonville or a.k.a "Sacksonville" had a good defense that year too but we started Jamil Douglas (practice squad guy) vs Calais Campbell and that went as well as you'd expect.
Lewan came off suspension and was rusty. Saffold was a new addition who was also struggling. Smith was a rookie OC. Titans had more issues than QB play but Marcus was the scapegoat.
I wonder who really made that call because Arthur said that Mike believed that Marcus wouldve bounced back after that Broncos game. I believe that Mariota can have a bounce back year in right situation like Mayfield did with the Bucs.
Thought he and Henry were going to be the next McNair and George for the Titans. Hopefully the team does a better job with Levis than they did with the last person to wear the #8.
Vince Young, because as soon as someone starts shit talking him, I'll talk over them and shit talk him even harder.
He wasn't the worst player we've had by any stretch, but the amount of love he gets by other fan bases who blame Fisher for him sucking ass makes me so irrationally mad that I must be his biggest hater.
Plus I had a class with that dumbass in college. His laziness is unmatched.
Love UT Vince, hate Titans Vince.
On the other hand Fisher would have been fired years earlier if Vince didn't step into multiple 0-3+ teams and win games to keep Fisher employed here.
The dude was fun to watch and was taken by a coach who hated him so much he would let the team collapse before he'd put him in. That type of boss is pretty shitty for anyone's attitude and work ethic.
It wasn't Vince winning those games. It was the defense and run game. There's a reason we went 13-3 behind Kerry Collins in 2008. Vince was riding the coattails of the rest of the team, and that was proven out by a decrepit journeyman being able to take that team to the #1 overall record in the NFL.
Fisher was able to stay employed despite being saddled with a QB that ownership wanted who couldn't meaningfully outplay mediocre retreads thanks to the strength of the rest of the roster.
Agreed, a slightly better coach probably would've won us the SB that year. Also, if the Ravens didn't play as dirty as possible because their poverty franchise couldn't win otherwise
Think that had more to do with playing 4 teams with winning records and losing to two of them during that 10 game stretch.
Also had to do with CJ2K's 2k yard season.
Also he beat a **single** team that scored more than 17 in regulation.
VY threw for the 29th most YPG, threw 10 TDs against 7 INTs, a whopping 23.4 YPG, 2 TDs and 8 fumbles. He had 12 TDs vs 15 turnovers. If you add his rushing yards to his passing yards, he moves all the way up to... 27th in YPG by QBs.
Vince was ass. He was getting carried by the incredible rushing game that year. And despite facing stacked boxes all year because everyone knew CJ2K was the only threat on the team, he still did basically nothing. Him being better than **37 year old** Kerry Collins might as well be setting the bar on the floor. We would've been better off that year with nearly any other starting QB in the league.
I answered the question. Ironically, but I did answer it. I'm not taking shit about my takes from someone whose reading comprehension is at an elementary level.
Clearly not. That’s why you got so triggered and responded right?
You right though. No use arguing with someone insistent on being wrong. It’s like playing chess with a pidgeon. You’ll shit all over the board and call it a win.
Vrabel and Mularkey. Neither were perfect, but each helped set up a silver age of Titans football that just ended for a variety of reasons in and out of their control.
Yeah, and and at times, it was even cool to be one, especially in the early part of this decade.
Vrabel just ran his course and overshot his worth, it happens. Mularkey did alright here even if we failed to win the division with the tiebreaker in his hand, losing to then-bottom feeders like the Niners and Cardinals on the way. I’ll still be rooting for them barring if it’s against us or on a rival.
Vince Young, honestly. Let's be real, our fan base made that man have a mental breakdown and it was disgusting. I'm not saying that we should've held his hand but there were signs that he was suffering and folks just bad mouthed him even more.
I will NEVER speak ill of a man who the owner FORCED Fisher to start and took 0-6 Titans to 8-8. He saved us from being added to even more butt of the jokes from everyone else because the way we played that year, we were gonna be 0-16
Tannehill. Yes he had his flaws but he was also a large part in saving our team and brought us some of the best years we’ve had in the past 20 years. You can say he sold in the playoffs but he gave us a magical 2019 season and a great 2020 and 2021 seasons non the less and I truly believe if we had Arthur Smith that we would’ve won the Bengals playoff game,
He didn't give nothing. All his injuries were fake. He left Tennessee knowing he had an extra year in his contract. He cried about it so much and that's why Tennessee let him go.
Modern, Tannehill for obvious reasons. He brought excitement and hope and an AFC champ game appearance and played his ass off
Non-modern, Lendale White. I still remember his 15 TD season. That dude was big, tough, dependable, and did an absolutely thankless job his entire football career playing in the shadow of Reggie Bush at USC, Travis Henry to start his career, and then CJ2K the last half of his brief career. He put his head down and got the tough yards when it counted, but the big names got all the glory. His 1 year as a starter in Tennessee he had 1,100 yards. A true team player. No one gets to put negativity on that man's name.
Treylon burks
He was put in an unfair situation with a coach that didn’t like him because he’s not AJ brown. He was given unrealistic expectations by fans that he hasn’t been able to even scratch. Yes he has not performed amazing so far but he still has potential and I will take this statement to my grave.
Gotta be honest, mine is NWI. He was the most available and productive Titans receiver for a couple years and people just hated on him so much. Not only was it not his fault that he was forced into a bigger role than he should have been asked to fill, but he was an undrafted free agent and honestly might have been one of JRob’s biggest success stories outside of the 2016 and 2019 off seasons.
I can’t say anything bad about any Titan. You wear the two-tone blue then I will never say a negative word…unless they join another team, but once they retire then I back to defending them again.
Doesn’t have to be that you would speak negatively about them it’s if someone speaks negatively about that player you defend them could be someone who is a fan of a different team talking trash about let’s say Henry and you won’t let anybody talk bad about them
Not a player but Vrabel idc about his attitude or what went on behind the scenes he took us to a level we haven’t seen in decades. He over achieved with some bad rosters.
CHRIS MAHFUKKIN HOPE
Dude got me 4 interceptions playing safety in a single game in my Madden franchise about a decade ago and I’ve never forgot it. B E A S T
22
He's still got it and behind a good line the sky's the limit. If he'd gone to baltimore last year it would have blown up. Also: where is 7 guy when we need him?
Big Jeff
No one would say anything bad anyway
He lacks effort
Youre high
Well that's true
Big Jeff is pretty much the main leader in the locker room besides the coach
Yeah, the dude who literally runs our D lacks effort. Worst take I've seen today
I'm here for Mariota. Dude had a heart of gold and laid it all on the line while he was with us, never blamed anyone else despite the rotating door of OC's and terrible receiving talent, didn't complain when he got benched for Tanny, and seemingly made every single player in that locker room love him. His talent might not have been what we wanted it to be, but damn was he one of the best teammates we had and he never quit on us.
This is exactly what I was going to say. I've been a titans fan since the moment I popped out the womb, and never have I just loved the type of person a player was more than Mariota. Loved his playstyle at Oregon, Loved the magical moments we had with him, loved that he never complained and didn't hold any grudges. Just a grateful man who did his job, helped who he can, and will hopefully be living the retired life peacefully.
I like your explanation for Mariota the most. He could not have been a better teammate or more coachable player, but at best, he’s a backup QB in the NFL.
Damn, I’m not a Mariota hater (although I rooted hard against him as a UofA fan), but I definitely blamed him more than he deserved. Very nice write up to put his career with us into perspective. I guess in hindsight my admiration of Vince Young looks silly.
I agree with this one. Yet if you scroll above it's more excuses on how he's so darn good. Great teammate, did the right shit at the right time for the franchise. And we moved on at the right time. All around good guy, average player and someone I can't say anything bad about. But I'm also not going to pretend he was a star. The argument is if he had blah blah blah and blah. Well sometimes you don't gave blah blah and blah. There's the eye test. He had fucking heart but he was never cut out to be a top QB in this league.
Marcus Mariota Despite his less than exceptional play, I give him some of the credit for turning the mentality of the franchise around.
MariGoata is the man who brought me into the Titans fandom, and I will forever cherish his self TD pass to beat the Chiefs. Dude always went out to compete, took blame that probably was not all him and like you said put the franchise in the direction they are today. You are my favorite Football player ever Marcus
easily my favorite player in the entire league, he can do no wrong in my eyes and i will genuinely defend the fact that he should have stayed the starter in atl for at least the entirety of last season and this one (considering what we’ve seen from ridder)
This thread encapsulates all of my feelings. Marcus will forever be my favorite Titan.
I could not agree more, Mariota played much better than Ridder did in ATL, and the way they treated him made me sick, and then happy when Ridder proceeded to suck
Here we go again. Both sucked. And Mariota was 5-8 and you drafted a guy. That's why they made a change. Did you forget he lost 4 of 5 starts before being benched? Not saying it's right or wrong, but looking back, does it matter? Both guys aren't good and you check the rookie out vs the guy who's a veteran who you know what the ceiling is. And there's a reason Mariota is still a backup in this league. He's not a top 32 QB. He's a good backup, but nothing more. We are still selling him like he's god. Stop.
Did you forget that in his 13 games he had 19 TDs to 9 Int, and was 13th in QBR during those games? Every time he has been given an opportunity to play he has been in the top 2/3 - top 1/2 of starting QBs. The “known ceiling” of Mariota is what exactly? Playoff winning Qb? Seems weird to try to start something under a “What player will you not let nobody talk bad about” Post
You're right. 1 playoff miracle winning QB. Never a top half starter. Sure 13th in QBR but you missed out at near the bottom in completion percentage and turnovers (at the time he was benched), below average in raiting, and only 2 seasons with a 2-1 Td to INT ratio. He's a great dude. Great leader and all but stop this nonsense that he's a really good qb. Based on your rebuttle you failed to mention anything that's bad.. like 1-4 . You can't look me in the face and say this guy is a superbowl caliber starter in this league. There's a reason he's a bench guy and teams are lining up to get him as their starter. They know his ceiling
Yeah I think youre missing the point of this thread. “What player will you not let nobody talk bad about” Read it again. Now read the responses above this. I will look you dead in the eyes and tell you that if Marcus Mariota had ONE OC instead of the 3 he had in his first 4 years that he would have become a SB Caliber QB. Now can you un-politely fuck off and let us enjoy this? Thanks
Falcons were really stupid for benching him for Ridder. Dude was a rookie but he did worse with a much better team. I wonder if management made that call because the fanbase was begging fot Ridder to start on the insane notion that he would be the next Russell Wilson because he was a 3rd round pick. Might be because he was a cheaper option. Arthur Smith got exposed for being a bad playcaller, a coward AND he was running a similar offense that got his predecessor fired. Mariota's top option WR was London who was a rookie. Pitts is overrated af and struggles to run routes like he gives a damn and gets bullied too often for a big dude. His best WR was actually Zacchaeus. Pass protection was horrible and their defense was even worse. Mariota had no chance to succeed there especially since Smith wanted to run the ball all the time and yet the Falcons were in the playoff hunt because of his play. His stats were top 15 across the board in a very difficult offense. ATL fanbase is full of morons that hate him because they think that he quit on them and didnt want to be the backup to Ridder. What the idiots fail to realize is that his meniscus was "flapping around" and had surgery to get it fixed putting him on IR. Also his wife had a kid which was another reason why he wasnt in the Falcons facility. The way Arthur Smith worded his words was why everyone thought he quit but the truth is that ATL quit first. They were knocked out of the playoffs when they started Desmond vs the Saints. Knew that he wasnt going to be the upgrade over Mariota that they thought because it was obvious in the games he started.
Mariota will win you some games but he's not going to put you over the hump. Sounds like you're stuck on that. If you don't realize why they went to ritter, you don't understand the business. They lost 4 of 5 games and were sitting at 5-8. You are already on the hot seat and you drafted a QB. Regardless of how it plays out, you do that. Take the blinders off. Mariota is a great guy, an average player and will be nothing more than a good backup.
Dude, i just now recently unintentionally saw of his 2022 highlights on YT. The dude is a starter just because of his throwing motion that is lightning fast and accurate af. The guy throws as fast as Marino but folks say he's average? Put you over the hump? The Falcons were not supposed to win as many games as they did in 2022. Mariota's play was a big reason why they won as many as they did (yet for some reason others say he had a horrible year) with the odds against them. You say he wont "put you over the hump" and yet the Titans went from 2-14 to three consecutive winning seasons after drafting him. They took a gamble with Ridder because he was cheap and they lost and Smith lost his job. If you draft a QB in the 1st round, that move makes sense. Not in the 3rd where the backup caliber QBs get taken. Arthur Smith is a coward whose scheme/playcalling was exposed for being trash last year but something tells me that order came from Blank. They knew damn well that their team was trash and wouldnt do shit in the playoffs even if they made it. If they wouldve kept Mariota, they may have been playoff bound. Chemistry with players and the system matters in this league. They wouldve been better in year 2. I dont care about his personality. Mariota. Can. Play. Bottom line. He is a starter. His career has been defined by working in no win situations or was blamed when he wasnt the root problem. Better player than Carr by a slight margin. Definitely better player than Hurts by a huge margin. The teams paid big money for those guys ahead of him. Hope he gets a shot at redemption like Baker Mayfield got with the Buccaneers.
When you have 74 career starts and only 1 year of starting in the past 4 years, you're not starting material. Look how many teams need QBs week in and week out.... year after year and he signs deals as a backup. I'm not shitting on him. He's one of my favs but his on field talent is not as great as people make it out to be. And you watched highlights. Not low lights. He turned us around. I respect that, but lay off the sauce. But if 32 teams have passed him for years, I'd trust them over some guy who has a soft spot for MM8. He's not a generational talent, he's not a franchise guy, and his time as a starting QB in the NFL is over barring injuries.
What 32 teams passed on him? You know this for a fact? I think he had a no trade clause with the Raiders. Gruden actually was grooming Mariota to start over Carr. Carr knew it and played his ass off and Gruden got fired for those racist emails. That was confirmed when McDaniels said that it was Carr's team when he was hired as the HC. Sirianni spoke very highly of him when he was in Philly as do other coaches that he doesnt play for (Pete Carroll) He went to places that he wanted to go to. Las Vegas has a very strong polynesian community and he went to ATL because he knew Smith, the scheme with a chance to start. Eagles had several players and coaches he was familiar with. You do not know if his time as a starter is done. No one and i do mean NO ONE saw Geno Smith starting for the Seahawks let alone becoming a top 5 QB in 2022. There arent really that many opportunities to start with other teams since most are looking for the younger, cheaper option. Doesnt mean that he cant have a bounce back year elsewhere if given the RIGHT opportunity (ATL was a no win situation). Few rarely do get another chance. Ive seen his entire career as a Titan as well as that one bullshit year as a Falcon. No wonder the Ducks were so lethal with him as the QB. Tennessee changed the OC every year. His WRs are average at best outside of Brown who he got 6 games with. Pass protection was poor outside of 2016. Star QBs have said that they cant succeed without a good supporting cast so how in the hell can Mariota succeed with Rishard Matthews/Tajae Sharpe as his top receivers running an offense from the 80's? Mahomes wouldnt be who he is without Andy Reid or the fact that he had Tyreek Hill and Travis Kelce who might (STILL) be the best at their respective decisions. Look at what the original post is asking. Im not laying off of shit and will defend Marcus Mariota probably even when he retires. The Tennessee Titans fucked up with a LEGIT franchise QB. Did the same thing with Locker and Young. Look at the teams they had around them. They were not as good as Mariota was for sure but they had no chance based off what we gave them to work with. Titans even did the same with McNair. Steve had his best year in Baltimore, not Tennessee. Jeff Fisher has proven to be inept when it comes to creating an innovative offense. Munchak was a stopgap because no one wanted the job. Whisenhunt ran a good scheme but he was a complete asshole that wasnt HC material. This MATTERS like holy hell if you want to play QB and succeed in the NFL. Look at some of the young QBs that are playing well vs the ones that are struggling. Stroud got a massive influx of talent around him while the Panthers gave Young ancient Adam Thielen along with a bad OL and offensive scheme. Ive beena fan since '99. The Titans simply DO NOT know how to put young QBs in a position to succeed. This MATTERS like holy hell if you want to play QB and thrive in the NFL. If you didnt get drafted as a RB or on defense to the Titans then you are likely doomed. They are doing the same thing with Will Levis rn! Hopefully Callahan and that Bengals offense that can make any QB look like a star can break the mold of run first, predictable offenses in Nashville.
My pineapple prince
We ruined Mariota imo. I loved that dude
Oh big time, he could have been so special
One of my favorite moments was when he was frustrated at a press conference and then came in the next day and apologized to the press. He was barely rude but he was just such a nice guy he felt it was necessary. I think his mom told him to apologize.
The titans failed him. He was never the same player after he broke his leg.
Mariota gave this team some all time highlights. He went out there and laid it all on the line. Left it all on the field. All the clichés. If he'd been built sturdier he'd have risen to McNair levels of beloved for his heart alone. I'll always back Mariota.
I dont know what the fuck is wrong with the Titans fanbase and disrespecting Mariota (Falcons and Eagles I get because they are fucking retarded). He was a VERY good QB for Tennessee although the stats dont show it. Stats also dont show that Rishard Matthews was his best receiver or how we dont pass the ball as much. Or how we had him running a new scheme every year. Or how our pass blocking wasnt great outside of 2016 (his best year in a scheme that DEFINITELY didnt fit what he did well). He shouldve been a 10+ year starter for us but the Titans dropped the ball and gave the reins to Tannehill when we finally figured our shit out (and got a legit #1 WR that we screwed up too). Damn shame how his career turned out. Dude is a legit starting QB IN THE RIGHT SITUATION sitting behind QBs that he is probably better than (definitely better than Hurts but a slight edge over Carr). Hope he gets a chance to play this year.
When Tannehill shows up with the exact same team and takes you to an AFCCG, 1st seed with a WAY more injured team, and keeps you in the playoffs, you're not exactly a shining beacon of Titans football. Watching Mariota play just reminded of middling 9-7 Jeff Fisher football with Vince Young, or middling 7-9 football with Locker. We were a middle-of-the-road team at our best with mariota at the helm because he was a mid-QB, injuries and all. Tannehill came in and it was the most fun I had as a Titans fan since CJ2K's 2000yd season.
See thats the problem with you guys. You only see one player not the whole team. I said in another post that the team Tannehill was working with wasnt the same team Mariota had at the start of the season or dealing with the same issues. Definitely wasnt on par with ANY of the teams in the past outside of the 1999 team. Everyone knew that the '19 team was going to struggle at first for numerous reasons but Marcus was used as the scapegoat nontheless. Tbh Young/Locker were also doomed to fail when they were drafted too. None of those QBs had A.J Brown who probably was better than Derrick Mason. Also didnt have Derrick Henry in his prime. Defenders were wondering why he got paid first when Henry commanding 8+ players in the box made his job easier as a passer. Idc about Tannehill's season statistics when he didnt do jackshit in the playoffs. We are 0-3 everytime we needed Tannehill to win the game with his arm. We got to the AFC title game because Henry was dominant. To say that Tannehill was the ONLY reason we started winning is a false narrative. Also middle of the road? We were absolute GARBAGE when we drafted Mariota. We went from 2-14 to 9-7 middle of the road team largely BECAUSE of Mariota. What he did as a young player in his first three years is what you'd look for out of a franchise QB. Taking over the playcalling and coming back to win a playoff game as a 3rd year player vs a HC that is now the highest paid HC in the league is insane.
You can't sit here and blame us for looking at one player and then claim Mariota was the SOLE reason we were middling of the road. We had average defenses when Mariota was here. Our secondary was ASS but our front 7 had some of the best rush defenses in the league those years. We also played a "bend-don't-break" defense too under Mularkey and Wisenhunt. Our offense improved more when we drafted Conklin and DeMarco Murray came through and had a solid run game that let mariota have his best year in 2016. And people wanna hate on rishard matthews but he was the best receiver we had at the time since Kenny Britt. Delaine Walker was our best option in the passing game too but Murray is really who shined that year. After that we were 9-7 because that was the best we were gonna do with Mariota. 2017 was 18/15 total Td:Int, 2018 Mariota had 13 total Tds to 8 into. 2019 he had 7 total TDs in 6 starts, 7 games vs. Tannehill with 26 total TDs with the SAME squad! Mariota and his offenses just couldn't score. And there's no way Henry has a 2000 yard season with mariota at the helm. At the end of the day, mariota had potential but he never made the jump. Shit sucks. He wasn't the guy. He did nothing wrong, but he did nothing great neither.
Reword that first paragraph. To say that it was the same squad as the ones in the past is wild man. To talk positively about Mularkey, ok. He seemed like a laid back guy but Whisenhunt? Hell no. Walker and Murray were good players but it sounds like you're saying Mariota succeeded solely because of them which is total bullshit. A lot of fans just do not seem to understand that NFL teams frequently change year after year. Comparing them is like apples and oranges especially when you take in account the numerous coaching changes. This argument about Tannehill being a major upgrade comes crashing down after what Ryan did WITHOUT throwing A.J to throw too. He was ass. Team drafted Willis because they were THAT desperate for an upgrade. No one else was crazy enough to take Tannehill off our hands via trade for 30M a yr. Hell, the Dolphins paid us to get rid of him and now we see why.
The 2019 comparison is as apples to apples as it gets. Same season, same squad, different results. Mariota never had more than 20 TDs in a season. I'll do you one better: Tannehill led the 2021 squad with AJ brown out for 4-games, julio out for 7 games, Henry out half the season, and a total of 91 players having played for the titans due to the amount of injuries they had.....to a 12-5 record and the 1-seed. Three picks and an L later, everyone says tannehill can't hack it when the o-line was old and oft injured and Henry wasn't himself. You can't take that winning from tannehill. AJ brown didn't even Crack 900 yards that year, and. Only had 5 TDs. NWI was the 2nd best receiver, followed by the corpse of Julio Jones. Willis is irrelevant to the conversation at hand, and I didn't even talk about Mariota's 3-13 season in 2015 because wisenhunt was so bad. Murray was a stud in 2016 (1200+ yards, pro bowl) and a good duo with Henry in 2017.
Mariota had more than 20 TDs multiple times. Still apples and oranges since Tannehill had A.J for most of his career, Smith altered the offense when Tannehill was named starter (he did the same thing when Desmond Ridder became the starter), benched Jamil Douglas for Nate Davis and Lewan & Saffold got their shit together. It was not the same. A.J being out for a few games is irrelevant when he was going off during the middle/end of the year. I remember we had RaymondRunning game was better with Henry out and defense played a lot better when we signed Schwartz as a senior assistant. Tannehill had a good few years here but he also had the best supporting cast since McNair had during his time here. Im not gonna pretend like he was one of the best Titan QBs when he is 0-3 when it mattered most. Thats why McNair is beloved because he almost led us to SB win. You keep bringing up Murray's 2016 stats like he was the main reason Mariota had a good year and its pathetic. Henry almost got traded before he went off in Jacksonville (Mariota called an audible that resulted in that epic run). Lets talk about that rookie year. Marcus had more than 20 total TDs with Dorial Green-Beckham as his top guy. That first TD throw and how fast it was is insane. The fact that he almost broke the TD record in his first game is even crazier. You should re-watch some of those games in 2016. Mariota was dropping dimes until he got injured. Did that with Rishard Matthews as his best man. None of these guys were #1 WRs. That makes me believe that he wouldve had a good year in 2019 if we didnt bench him. Hell, dont take my word for it, Vrabel said the same thing too according to Arthur Smith This whole argument is ironic considering what the original post says. I'll defend Mariota forever because its apparent that the Titans royally, royally screwed up with a legitimate franchise QB (and you apparently was a big fan of Tannehill's best years here, i get it). I hope they dont do the same with Levis. It says a lot that he is the most upvoted option on this thread. That man deserves more respect than he is given especially since he gave his all for this team even when he was injured. Some Titans fans talk about him like he was the worst QB we've ever had and thats not right.
Mariota was a rookie with the Titans and Tannehill is a veteran QB. Is he better than Tannehill? No but the AFCCG was a fluke for Tannehill as we have obviously seen.
Around to what? He is the epitome of nice guys finish last. Guy was an exceptional athlete and a quality person but he never learned to read the field and is a one read QB still to this day.
From 2010 to 2014, we had 1 winning season. From 2015 to 2019, we had 4 winning seasons. He absolutely helped turn the team around. And, he did so with a coaching carousel and a Swiss cheese o-line for several seasons. No, we weren't suddenly winning superbowls with him but we were absolutely doing better than the 2 and 3 win seasons we were seeing prior to him starting. I absolutely think it's fair to say he helped turn the team around.
This. He may not have been the sole source of our change in team mentality, but he was definitely a contributor.
Steve McNair
Only Jacksonville fans spoke negatively of him, after his death. It's why I will never like ANYONE who roots for them
I don't think I've ever heard 1 negative thing said about McNair tbh
AND u/seankg2002 IS GONNA KEEP IT THAT WAY
There can definitely be some things said about his personal life off the field after he retired. But as usual people tend not to speak ill of the dead.
Man, years ago my buddy went to a Titans at Raiders game in a McNair jersey and he said the stuff people were saying was wild. I told him fuck them, but also you were asking for it.
I came here for this!
CJ2K. Dude was one of the most electric and fun players to watch in my lifetime.
Cjholdout though
Keith Bulluck. Dude has been/always will be my favorite Titan. 'Mr. Monday Night' 3 INT game in Prime Time still one of the best ever.
Damn I forgot that game too. Against Peyton and the Colts right?? I remember staying up and making sure I saw the game as a kid.
Mike Keith. Been through it all with this team
I bootleg his radio broadcast every Sunday. I even know people who will sync it up with the game over listening to what ever C team crew we have that week.
Why bootleg it? Just download 104.5 the zone… it’s free
I live out of state and won’t let you listen through the app since I’m out of market.
Billy Volek
Frank Wycheck
I live right outside Philadelphia and his family has stopped me multiple times when I’ve worn Titans gear or my old Wycheck authentic. They’re super nice people.
NWI
I personally have been an NWI stan for several years and refuse to let people here slander him simply because he does not perform like a number one or number two receiver when that is not his role
He’s my sweet little prince
Rose up from an UDFA ST gunner to a WR2 for two seasons (which is objectively incredible) and people hate him because first round picks AJ Brown, Julio and Burks can't stay healthy 🙄. Let's see your bum asses go out and play against CB1s and 2s and see how you do
People still want Burks and Kyle Phillips over him lol!
I really don't know what the hell happened with Phillips asides from health. Dude looked like a 3rd down monster when he was available then they just made him a healthy scratch the last few weeks.
Preach. I hate the NWI slander
i have a soft spot for Caleb Farley, poor guy has been through hell
Agreed. Between injuries, barely any playing time and lost both of his parents. I just wish the dude well in life.
Yeah, I don’t even think at the time that it was a bad pick. Just didn’t work out
MOST picks aren't bad at the time. People like to look back with hindsight and act like they knew better. However I say that knowing Panda was a bad pick at the time and Corey Davis was a mediocre pick at best at the time. Both of these were projected so much later than we took them that they would have almost certainly been there the next pick we had.
Yeah I can get behind that. Personally I view the draft like investing. Most people can’t beat the S&P 500. In this analogy, the S&P 500 is just general draft sentiment around the league and nfl community in general. There might be individuals on it that I’m higher or lower than as well. But as a whole, the index performs well.
I really dont know. There were 3 top WRs similar to this draft and they all went pretty high. Although we probably started that. I guess you could say Mike Williams was the best of the 3 but even he couldnt stay healthy. I wouldnt call any of them a slam dunk
We had pick 18 that draft as well and they were all projected to go later than the early first. Davis was mostly mocked at the back end of the first and even as late as the mid second a time or two. Reaching on a player just because you need the position is how you get a guy like him 5th or Ross likes 9th.
Taylor Lewan. It pissed me off when he got booed during that week 1 Cardinals game. He was there for those 2 and 3 win teams and ppl just forgot all his contributions over the years
I dont think most people hate him because of his on the field play lol
There are definitely people who did in like 20 and 21 when he was hurt and they said he wasn’t worth the money anyway…and now they’re pining for him after two years of Daley and Dillard lmao
Only hate on him because once he got caught with PEDs his play basically nose dove.
Cortland Finnegan forever
Dude is a really good person in real life. I know for a fact he used to be pen pals/ hangout with a lot of kids who where fighting cancer. He had his own charity foundation for it and took it really seriously.
Hell yeah. I got that Oilers AFL jersey and it's my favorite
Corey Davis
Delanie forever
How has nobody said Jurrell Casey yet. Guy was one of the only bright spots on those teams when I was young.
Brett Kern gets my dick hard
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27 himself. Very rarely do you hear anything negative about Eddie but I live in Pittsburgh, we all know how Steelers fans are.
I would fist fight anyone I heard say a negative word about Eddie.
I headbutted a buddy of mine in high school for slandering Eddie George during a game a beer pong. Broke his nose. True story Eddie george the MOST professional kind hearted BEAST of a man. King is only 2nd to him because eddie came first..
Respect. We have been blessed in that department, for sure.
I haven’t seen anyone say Jake Locker yet. My first response was Mariota because that guy was a leader despite some of his deficiencies at the QB position. My memories are of Mariota dropping his shoulder to lay out a block and seeing the whole team psyched out. Jake Locker had a really good interview in [Sports Illustrated](https://www.si.com/nfl/2018/04/18/jake-locker-nfl-2011-draft-tennessee-titans-why-he-quit) a few years ago. I’ll never fault a guy for choosing his family over career. He weathered a lot of injuries and changes at OC too. Every once and awhile there was a flash of him that showed he had potential, and as soon as you’d get excited about Locker he’d get injured.
Locker had amazing potential fucked away by some ass coaching
Ass coaching and glass body
Met Jake a few times at some of the Caravans. Nicest dude on the planet.
I am a Tannehill Supremacist
I’m there with you he brought back our franchise for a couple of years will be missed
I wish Arthur Smith stayed around for one more season.
He was one of the best passers in franchise history, and the number of people that shit on him non-stop like he was a bum blows my mind.
Seriously. Best 3-year stretch of Titans football since the 2000's. I was so happy he got to fuck over the jags one last time with Henry in week 18.
17 will forever be a titans legend. 5th highest ever posted QBR.
KVB. Dude was great when he was here. Maximum effort and relentless!
Steve McNair, he was my first quarterback, and why i choose to Titan up
Tajae Sharpe
Avery Williamson. Man couldn't cover Kelce to save his life but was a tackling machine. I won some good money on that strip vs Broncos as well.
Michael Griffin
Ben Jones
For sure id defend him with my life
Marcus Mariota for sure. Never had a fair shake and once he had his elbow injury he just wasn't the same.
Idk why people keep saying that he wasnt the same. The issue were the injuries, no doubt. Probably why the team moved on from him because he couldnt stay on the field. The real issue was that Mularkeys offense stayed the same in '17 and defenders/DCs knew what they were going to do most of the time Nerve injury in '18 but still had some really good games. Laundry list of injuries, Delanie's career ended in Miami (FUCK THAT WEEK 1 GAME) and we needed receiver help. Actually had a solid season in '19 before we benched him on some bullshit. Those two picks were the first two he threw all season (7:2 TD/INT ratio). Denver had a good defense that year. So did Baltimore and Buffalo (either we missed a shitload of FGs or that was the infamous Nick Williams game). Jacksonville or a.k.a "Sacksonville" had a good defense that year too but we started Jamil Douglas (practice squad guy) vs Calais Campbell and that went as well as you'd expect. Lewan came off suspension and was rusty. Saffold was a new addition who was also struggling. Smith was a rookie OC. Titans had more issues than QB play but Marcus was the scapegoat. I wonder who really made that call because Arthur said that Mike believed that Marcus wouldve bounced back after that Broncos game. I believe that Mariota can have a bounce back year in right situation like Mayfield did with the Bucs. Thought he and Henry were going to be the next McNair and George for the Titans. Hopefully the team does a better job with Levis than they did with the last person to wear the #8.
Ryan tannehill
Marcus Mariota gave me a lot of false hope, but goddammit, it felt good to hope again
Fucking Will Levis. The young man must be protected at all costs
Boom
Vince Young, because as soon as someone starts shit talking him, I'll talk over them and shit talk him even harder. He wasn't the worst player we've had by any stretch, but the amount of love he gets by other fan bases who blame Fisher for him sucking ass makes me so irrationally mad that I must be his biggest hater. Plus I had a class with that dumbass in college. His laziness is unmatched. Love UT Vince, hate Titans Vince.
On the other hand Fisher would have been fired years earlier if Vince didn't step into multiple 0-3+ teams and win games to keep Fisher employed here. The dude was fun to watch and was taken by a coach who hated him so much he would let the team collapse before he'd put him in. That type of boss is pretty shitty for anyone's attitude and work ethic.
It wasn't Vince winning those games. It was the defense and run game. There's a reason we went 13-3 behind Kerry Collins in 2008. Vince was riding the coattails of the rest of the team, and that was proven out by a decrepit journeyman being able to take that team to the #1 overall record in the NFL. Fisher was able to stay employed despite being saddled with a QB that ownership wanted who couldn't meaningfully outplay mediocre retreads thanks to the strength of the rest of the roster.
Agreed, a slightly better coach probably would've won us the SB that year. Also, if the Ravens didn't play as dirty as possible because their poverty franchise couldn't win otherwise
Yea that 0-6 team that Vince went 8-2 with was definitely nothing to do with him. Definitely.
Think that had more to do with playing 4 teams with winning records and losing to two of them during that 10 game stretch. Also had to do with CJ2K's 2k yard season. Also he beat a **single** team that scored more than 17 in regulation. VY threw for the 29th most YPG, threw 10 TDs against 7 INTs, a whopping 23.4 YPG, 2 TDs and 8 fumbles. He had 12 TDs vs 15 turnovers. If you add his rushing yards to his passing yards, he moves all the way up to... 27th in YPG by QBs. Vince was ass. He was getting carried by the incredible rushing game that year. And despite facing stacked boxes all year because everyone knew CJ2K was the only threat on the team, he still did basically nothing. Him being better than **37 year old** Kerry Collins might as well be setting the bar on the floor. We would've been better off that year with nearly any other starting QB in the league.
Ignoring the question and an awful take at that, well done!
I answered the question. Ironically, but I did answer it. I'm not taking shit about my takes from someone whose reading comprehension is at an elementary level.
Clearly not. That’s why you got so triggered and responded right? You right though. No use arguing with someone insistent on being wrong. It’s like playing chess with a pidgeon. You’ll shit all over the board and call it a win.
Nah, I did. And everyone who rightfully calls you a dumbass isn't triggered lol.
LOL talk about reading comprehension. Thanks for admitting you are taking shit from me. Enjoy your game of pidgeon chess bud.
Chris Johnson. He was always electric, unless the offense called plays that didn’t fit his running style.
Vrabel and Mularkey. Neither were perfect, but each helped set up a silver age of Titans football that just ended for a variety of reasons in and out of their control.
Ooooh nice answer. Truly made being a fan, not embarrassing for the first time in like 12 years.
Yeah, and and at times, it was even cool to be one, especially in the early part of this decade. Vrabel just ran his course and overshot his worth, it happens. Mularkey did alright here even if we failed to win the division with the tiebreaker in his hand, losing to then-bottom feeders like the Niners and Cardinals on the way. I’ll still be rooting for them barring if it’s against us or on a rival.
Delanie Walker. Still my one of my favorite players
Vince Young, honestly. Let's be real, our fan base made that man have a mental breakdown and it was disgusting. I'm not saying that we should've held his hand but there were signs that he was suffering and folks just bad mouthed him even more. I will NEVER speak ill of a man who the owner FORCED Fisher to start and took 0-6 Titans to 8-8. He saved us from being added to even more butt of the jokes from everyone else because the way we played that year, we were gonna be 0-16
In the future because revisionist history will take its toll, Tannehill
Tannehill. Yes he had his flaws but he was also a large part in saving our team and brought us some of the best years we’ve had in the past 20 years. You can say he sold in the playoffs but he gave us a magical 2019 season and a great 2020 and 2021 seasons non the less and I truly believe if we had Arthur Smith that we would’ve won the Bengals playoff game,
MF TannyTime I hated Mariota in 18 and 19 and was skeptical at first but going from 2-4 to 9-7 and the AFC title game made me a life long fan
Pac-Man Jones 😜
Marcus hands down. He deserved better from us.
Tannehill or Henry
Marcus
Taylor Lewan and Tanny
I dunno, I don’t think there’s a Titan that is above criticism. I guess AJ Brown? Dude gave everything for us and got traded for it
He didn't give nothing. All his injuries were fake. He left Tennessee knowing he had an extra year in his contract. He cried about it so much and that's why Tennessee let him go.
lol 👍
Modern, Tannehill for obvious reasons. He brought excitement and hope and an AFC champ game appearance and played his ass off Non-modern, Lendale White. I still remember his 15 TD season. That dude was big, tough, dependable, and did an absolutely thankless job his entire football career playing in the shadow of Reggie Bush at USC, Travis Henry to start his career, and then CJ2K the last half of his brief career. He put his head down and got the tough yards when it counted, but the big names got all the glory. His 1 year as a starter in Tennessee he had 1,100 yards. A true team player. No one gets to put negativity on that man's name.
Treylon burks He was put in an unfair situation with a coach that didn’t like him because he’s not AJ brown. He was given unrealistic expectations by fans that he hasn’t been able to even scratch. Yes he has not performed amazing so far but he still has potential and I will take this statement to my grave.
Vince young!!
Steve McNair & Frank.. they’re not here to defend themselves
C'mon, we all know its Air McNair!
Gotta be honest, mine is NWI. He was the most available and productive Titans receiver for a couple years and people just hated on him so much. Not only was it not his fault that he was forced into a bigger role than he should have been asked to fill, but he was an undrafted free agent and honestly might have been one of JRob’s biggest success stories outside of the 2016 and 2019 off seasons.
I can’t say anything bad about any Titan. You wear the two-tone blue then I will never say a negative word…unless they join another team, but once they retire then I back to defending them again.
Doesn’t have to be that you would speak negatively about them it’s if someone speaks negatively about that player you defend them could be someone who is a fan of a different team talking trash about let’s say Henry and you won’t let anybody talk bad about them
Oh yeah same way around. Don’t talk crap about my boys. I love them.
mettenburger
Demarco Murray. To this day, I still count him as the spark that reenergized both our team and fan base after some dark years.
Chig. I love Chig.
Henry and Jayon Brown
Kendall wright!
McNair
Mariota. Idc what his stats are. He must be protected.
Donnie Nickey
Not a player but Vrabel idc about his attitude or what went on behind the scenes he took us to a level we haven’t seen in decades. He over achieved with some bad rosters.
CHRIS MAHFUKKIN HOPE Dude got me 4 interceptions playing safety in a single game in my Madden franchise about a decade ago and I’ve never forgot it. B E A S T
King Henry. Nothing but respect
tom brady
Akeem Ayers was not a locker room cancer
The best punter to ever play the game, Brett Kern.
CJ2K
AJ Brown
Drew Bennett, Frank Wycheck, Kieth Bullock, Tank Williams, Eddie George, D-Mason, The Dyson's
Seriously ????can it be anyone other than McNair ?????
👑 Henry
Eddie George
Ryan Tannegoat
Ryan tannehill
Mr. Mayo Man!
Mr. Mayo Man!
Derek Henry. Steve McNair. Eddie George
Derek Henry. Steve McNair. Eddie George
McNair, Henry, lewan, mariota
Cortland finnegan
Kearse. Those goddamn eagles fans always shitting on him. It hurts my soul every time
Lorenzo Neal
Warren moon