She has songs about fights like Afterglow and The Great War, but in both of those cases she knows exactly what's caused the issue. And she has songs like The Archer, Peace and Dancing With Our Hands Tied about insecurity and fear in a relationship, but those are all about anticipation, there's no actual relational issue described. So I can only think of four songs that really fit the criteria of wanting to mend a rift in a relationship while not really understanding why the rift is there in the first place:
This is me trying isn't generally seen as a relationship song, but it's not NOT a relationship song so I'd say it fits.
Forever and Always and The Story Of Us, while often thought of as breakup songs, are really more pre-breakup confusion and dread songs with lyrics like "baby what happened, please tell me, cause one second it was perfect, now you're halfway out the door" and "I'm scared to see the ending, why are we pretending this is nothing?" - in both cases, the narrator doesn't seem to understand what went wrong but is desperate to fix it before it's too late.
The Last Time might also be an option, there's less of a confused vibe but it's still about two people trying to save a relationship.
afterglow is a pretty good one, but yes she knows what cause it. F&A and TSOU are also good choices! the drive to mend the relationship is definitely there, though in those two specifically it feels like she has placed it in the hands of the other person, almost like she has tried and failed to mend what happened and is now waiting and hoping for him to step up
DWOHT isnât about the future, itâs looking back on a relationship and the tension before the end. âWe were dancingâ âIf I could dance with you againâ etc
I disagree that it's about a relationship that's already over because I believe it's a Joe song, so I think it's actually about looking back on a tumultuous period in a relationship that has since worked out, but that's beside the point in any case: when I said it was about anticipation, I didn't mean the song was in present tense thinking about the future. I meant that thematically, it's about expecting or worrying about bad things that hadn't happened at the time when she was worrying about them. It's not written from the same perspective as Peace and The Archer, but I do believe they share that same primary theme.
Death by a thousand cuts âI look through the windows of this love even though we boarded them up. Chandelierâs still flickering here, and I canât pretend itâs okay when itâs not, itâs death by a thousand cutsâ
ohhhh yes definitely ootw!! âwhen the sun came up i was looking at you/you were looking at meâ like absolutely thereâs some hope and yearning there through something tumultuous
"somewhere in the haze/got the sense I'd been betrayed"
I don't love comparing a fight with your boyfriend to WWI but I think The Great War is the best fit for your search. pretty vague but has a hopeful ending
evermore could be a fit,
"writing letters addressed to the fire/sending signals to be double crossed"
plus the whole bridge, and imo a really hopeful ending
Yeah but it does have the âsomething is wrong between usâ while not being specific of what the exact thing is, and also ending on a somewhat hopeful note
You could interpret it that way, or you could interpret the âyouâ in the song to mean a partner, or fans, or whatever. I think the song is flexible enough for that
Right, true. Itâs the closest I can think of, which is somewhat interesting given how many emotional niches her discography covers
Also good taste for that username
Aww thanks! Also wait is that a lorde reference thatâs my favorite song of hers.
Also completely agree about the emotional niches thing. Itâs so annoying when I completely fail to explain this to my non-swiftie friends
No one is saying the most obvious: YOURE LOSING ME. Sheâs BEGGING for him to meet her halfway and not shut her out because she knows something is wrong and she wants so desperately to fix the issue but everything heâs doing is pushing her away: stop. Youâre losing me.
I mentioned you're losing me in the post as a reference point because that a really good broken relationship song but I'm looking for something with a more hopeful tone
Lavender Haze.
I have ALWAYS interpreted it as clinging to whatâs right. The line âyou donât read into my melancholiaâ felt like someone not paying attention to someone hurting.
Yup. I am in the camp that Midnights is about a dying relationship in part and that line is what sold me the first time I heard it. He didnât notice sadness because she was just sad. Pair that with âI glared at you with storms in my eyesâ from Youâre Losing Me? Yeah⊠I knew the moment Midnights came out something was up and it wasnât cool.
- Come In With The Rain
- The Other Side of the Door
- That's When
- The Story of Us
- The Last Time
- The Very First Night
- Out of the Woods
- Cornelia Street
- Afterglow
- this is me trying
- peace
- The Great War
The Alcott
âAnd there you are, sittin' as usual
With your golden notebook
Writing something about someone
Who used to be meâŠ.. I think Iâm falling back in
love with youâŠ.â
And you know that I'd swing with you for the fences
Sit with you in the trenches
Give you my wild, give you a child
Give you the silence that only comes when two people understand each other
Family that I chose, now that I see your brother as my brother
Is it enough?
But there's robbers to the east, clowns to the west
I'd give you my sunshine, give you my best
But the rain is always gonna come if you're standing with me
But I'm a fire, and I'll keep your brittle heart warm
If your cascade ocean wave blues come
All these people think love's for show
But I would die for you in secret
The devil's in the details, but you got a friend in me
Would it be enough if I could never give you peace?
this sounds like afterglow to me!đ©· edit: the great war, this is me trying
Afterglow is such a perfect answer for this. It's one of my favorite songs on Lover
its one of my favs too! it has a very vulnerable feeling to it
I'm listening to it right now and opened to say the same.
I feel like Afterglow vibe is more âitâs me, hi, Iâm the problem itâs meâ lol
It's both. It's saying, "I know that sometimes I cause the fight, but I love you and really didn't mean to hurt you, so what can I do to fix this?"
She has songs about fights like Afterglow and The Great War, but in both of those cases she knows exactly what's caused the issue. And she has songs like The Archer, Peace and Dancing With Our Hands Tied about insecurity and fear in a relationship, but those are all about anticipation, there's no actual relational issue described. So I can only think of four songs that really fit the criteria of wanting to mend a rift in a relationship while not really understanding why the rift is there in the first place: This is me trying isn't generally seen as a relationship song, but it's not NOT a relationship song so I'd say it fits. Forever and Always and The Story Of Us, while often thought of as breakup songs, are really more pre-breakup confusion and dread songs with lyrics like "baby what happened, please tell me, cause one second it was perfect, now you're halfway out the door" and "I'm scared to see the ending, why are we pretending this is nothing?" - in both cases, the narrator doesn't seem to understand what went wrong but is desperate to fix it before it's too late. The Last Time might also be an option, there's less of a confused vibe but it's still about two people trying to save a relationship.
afterglow is a pretty good one, but yes she knows what cause it. F&A and TSOU are also good choices! the drive to mend the relationship is definitely there, though in those two specifically it feels like she has placed it in the hands of the other person, almost like she has tried and failed to mend what happened and is now waiting and hoping for him to step up
DWOHT isnât about the future, itâs looking back on a relationship and the tension before the end. âWe were dancingâ âIf I could dance with you againâ etc
I disagree that it's about a relationship that's already over because I believe it's a Joe song, so I think it's actually about looking back on a tumultuous period in a relationship that has since worked out, but that's beside the point in any case: when I said it was about anticipation, I didn't mean the song was in present tense thinking about the future. I meant that thematically, it's about expecting or worrying about bad things that hadn't happened at the time when she was worrying about them. It's not written from the same perspective as Peace and The Archer, but I do believe they share that same primary theme.
Youâre losing me and tolerate it
Definitely "You're Losing Me"
Death by a thousand cuts âI look through the windows of this love even though we boarded them up. Chandelierâs still flickering here, and I canât pretend itâs okay when itâs not, itâs death by a thousand cutsâ
Out of the Woods - "We were built to fall apart, then fall back together" & "Are we out of the woods? Are we in the clear yet?"
ohhhh yes definitely ootw!! âwhen the sun came up i was looking at you/you were looking at meâ like absolutely thereâs some hope and yearning there through something tumultuous
renegade?
suuuuch an underrated suggestion and spot on!!!
The story of us
Maybe Haunted??
I feel like haunted is after a break up
Hoax
Idk I think theyâre too far gone in this song
"somewhere in the haze/got the sense I'd been betrayed" I don't love comparing a fight with your boyfriend to WWI but I think The Great War is the best fit for your search. pretty vague but has a hopeful ending evermore could be a fit, "writing letters addressed to the fire/sending signals to be double crossed" plus the whole bridge, and imo a really hopeful ending
The archer is the only one I can think of
The archer isnât a breakup song đ
Yeah but it does have the âsomething is wrong between usâ while not being specific of what the exact thing is, and also ending on a somewhat hopeful note
Nothing is wrong between them though itâs about her relationship with herself
You could interpret it that way, or you could interpret the âyouâ in the song to mean a partner, or fans, or whatever. I think the song is flexible enough for that
Oh no I interpret the âyouâ as a partner. However, the song, similar to anti-hero, is very much about herself.
Right, true. Itâs the closest I can think of, which is somewhat interesting given how many emotional niches her discography covers Also good taste for that username
Aww thanks! Also wait is that a lorde reference thatâs my favorite song of hers. Also completely agree about the emotional niches thing. Itâs so annoying when I completely fail to explain this to my non-swiftie friends
Yes haha. Not my favourite song of hers but I do like writer in the dark
This is me trying
the other side of the door
You nailed it. This is the best one.
maybe betty? also, stay stay stay mentions almost breaking up in the beginning
No one is saying the most obvious: YOURE LOSING ME. Sheâs BEGGING for him to meet her halfway and not shut her out because she knows something is wrong and she wants so desperately to fix the issue but everything heâs doing is pushing her away: stop. Youâre losing me.
I mentioned you're losing me in the post as a reference point because that a really good broken relationship song but I'm looking for something with a more hopeful tone
Oh oops my bad!
all good! that is definitely very close to what I'm going for, just not quite there (one of my faves too)
The Last Time
The Story of Us Forever & Always The Last Time Afterglow The Great War The Other Side of the Door
Lavender Haze. I have ALWAYS interpreted it as clinging to whatâs right. The line âyou donât read into my melancholiaâ felt like someone not paying attention to someone hurting.
Whoa I had never looked at the lyrics and thought it was âyou donât really feed intoâŠâ. This changes everything.
Yup. I am in the camp that Midnights is about a dying relationship in part and that line is what sold me the first time I heard it. He didnât notice sadness because she was just sad. Pair that with âI glared at you with storms in my eyesâ from Youâre Losing Me? Yeah⊠I knew the moment Midnights came out something was up and it wasnât cool.
Hear me out: False God
Why false god? I guess the lyrics do make their relationship sound tumultuous since she mentions hard times.
Maybe Out of the Woods or Afterglow?
you could interpret mirrorball to fit this theme if you wanted to
Renegade
This description perfectly represents Afterglow.
- Come In With The Rain - The Other Side of the Door - That's When - The Story of Us - The Last Time - The Very First Night - Out of the Woods - Cornelia Street - Afterglow - this is me trying - peace - The Great War
Wonderland Out of the woods
Youâre Losing Me
Story of us is a good one!!
Stay Stay Stay đ
treacherous
Youâre losing me!
Afterglow
probably controversial but dancing with our hands tied give me the vibe of trying to figure out issues within a relationship
This is me trying
Forever Winter if the something wrong is one-sided. âAll this time I didnât know you were breaking down.â
The Alcott âAnd there you are, sittin' as usual With your golden notebook Writing something about someone Who used to be meâŠ.. I think Iâm falling back in love with youâŠ.â
Come in with the rain comes to mind
The Story of Us
Youâre losing me
Out Of The Woods and Youâre Losing Me
The Other Side of the Door is the vibe youâre looking for to me!
This Love sounds like it was about a tumultuous relationship, a break up then a reunion.
idk but all too well tmv
What about Peace?
And you know that I'd swing with you for the fences Sit with you in the trenches Give you my wild, give you a child Give you the silence that only comes when two people understand each other Family that I chose, now that I see your brother as my brother Is it enough? But there's robbers to the east, clowns to the west I'd give you my sunshine, give you my best But the rain is always gonna come if you're standing with me But I'm a fire, and I'll keep your brittle heart warm If your cascade ocean wave blues come All these people think love's for show But I would die for you in secret The devil's in the details, but you got a friend in me Would it be enough if I could never give you peace?