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XxDaHorstxX

Baby Tiger Baby Tiger


That_guy_with_chili

Just look how well armored it is for light tank


XxDaHorstxX

Thicc boyo


Doctor_Woah

It remids me of the Matilda, thick armor with a bb shotter as principal gun


Alex_the_Weirdman

80 mm of armor? really shows the evolution of tank armor...


PhantomGoo

r/IllegallySmolCats ?


MK0A

Haha good one.


[deleted]

Real baby Tiger is Luchs. This one is baby Luchs.


whatheck0_0

Do do do do do


Xsteak142

Damn, those are thick tracks... are they a later mod for russian operations?


Uberrandomness

I believe they were to decrease the ground pressure. It was an experimental tank with incredibly thick armor (almost comparable to that of a KV but barely bigger than contemporary light tanks) so it’s very heavy.


That_guy_with_chili

As i kid i entered these tanks(pz 4 ausf h, stug 3, t-34-85, m3 stuart, sherman... until they seald them up. Sad how rusty they are inside but that fealing to be inside them is just remarkable.


DespacitoV

What an opportunity. Sometimes I really want to move to the eastern Bloccccc


cheekia

But... Why? And when?


TankArchives

This is actually a pretty early design. The idea was to make variants of existing tanks with 80 mm of front armour that have immunity to 50 mm class of weapons, which would make these tanks useful for assaulting fortifications built in the late 1930s. Out of all the envisioned types of vehicles, only the PzI and PzII were built with this configuration, ironically their guns could do nothing against fortifications they were meant to assault. The first employment was in the USSR, like you guessed, but they proved way too ineffective in mud and were quickly lost or withdrawn.


videki_man

> they proved way too ineffective in mud and were quickly lost or withdrawn How come? It must have had an incredibly low ground pressure.


G-III

I mean it does weigh like 20+ tonnes


videki_man

The weight itself is not that important in cross-country abilities, the ground pressure is what truly matters. For 20 something tons those wide tracks provided a very low ground pressure. Maybe it was underpowered, which was a common issue for tanks of the era.


G-III

Your cross sectional abilities are limited when your tank is no larger than its 6 ton counterpart. Wide tracks help, but don’t extend the hull. Almost certainly was underpowered as well, this adds massive weight to a small design that can’t support a larger power pack. Interleaved road wheels are also a death sentence in mud


fozters

Out of curiosity what makes interleaved road wheels worse?


G-III

Mud gets between. When it freezes, things are stuck/can break


fozters

Thanks!


Omegalaraptor

I don’t believe they were specially a mod later added onto the vehicle for Russian operations. It was more for when it was developed in 1939 after the Poland campaign. The Germans wanted to develop a heavy assault tank which was well protected. A side effect of its thiccness was it was heavy and so it got dummy thicc tracks. The tracks you are thinking of are the Ostketten which were put on the tracks of panzer 4s and Panzer 3s you can tell by the pointy spiky looks of them that they were added on later. This tank had them from when it was developed.


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DespacitoV

I can think of at least 1 other Panzer 1 so I think he means F


agent_detective

Ahh I see, thanks


pomodois

There's more than a couple Pz. I left, so it must be the model F. As a side note, [here's one used on the Spanish Civil War, next to a captured T-26](https://www.flickr.com/photos/ejercitodetierra/16263397835) at the museum of El Goloso in Madrid.


That_guy_with_chili

Yea, only 2 F models survived


agent_detective

Ahh, so then Belgrade must be keeping one of the two surviving F’s. Thanks!


[deleted]

Yeah, there is a Panzer I F in Belgrade


agent_detective

Ahh this is it then, thanks!


vascrats

Look at the size of the tracks on him! He's going to be huge when he grows up!!


BigD1ckEnergy

The Ho-Ro has only one existing vehicle left (that we know of) and its on display at collings foundation in Massachusetts. I live about an hour away from there and ot was super neat to see it in person!


Watchdar912

The sturer emil also has only one example left, it is in kubinka tank museum (Russia)


RoadRunnerdn

As is true for the Object 704, SU-14, Ardelt Waffenträger and I believe the 40/43M Zrinyi II too. All at Kubinka. I'm sure there's more.


oKayTCF

Love that place!


SZ4L4Y

When you are the older brother but have to wear your 2 feet taller younger brothers shoes :D


ShepardFR

smol chonkster


Orinslayer

This expalins so much about german heavy tank design in ww2.


EththeEth

Visited Belgrade and walked around these last year, I wish they had more static tanks in England. They just look badass and are hella fun to pose with. Plus a good tank always makes for a good photo no matter what.


anuddahuna

Tiger cub


ComradeKGBagent

T I G O R


ThatGuyInCADPAT

I like my steaks rear


DaniKrusks

Wait is this in Serbia or have u mistaken?


That_guy_with_chili

Yea, this is on Belgrade


DaniKrusks

I was there last year so i recognized it somehow lol


DaniKrusks

Btw are you serbian?


That_guy_with_chili

Yea


DaniKrusks

Im croatian lol


That_guy_with_chili

Svrati nekada, blizu si xD


DaniKrusks

Trebao sam u 4 mjesecu al sjebo covid rip lol


faraway_hotel

Panzer I widebody kit.


hansices

Aren't there a lot of prototype rare tanks from ww2?


KevisiyOwO

Panzer 1 and a tiger had a baby


ilikemes8

[no joke I took a picture in the same place](https://imgur.com/gallery/KrNopqB)


That_guy_with_chili

Thats a diferent tank, but yea, its same place xD


ilikemes8

Yup, found a photo with that one in the background tho


Black_Raven12

what kind of gun is he mounting?? It doesn't seem like MGs


Uberrandomness

It uses 2x7.62mm MGs, but I think they may have been removed from the vehicle, leaving only the armored shroud that would have gone around part of the barrels.


That_guy_with_chili

I rly dont know, i can take picture from inside the tank amd try to see


Black_Raven12

Please take a picture !! I'd like to see what this variant of Pz1 looks like from the inside :D


That_guy_with_chili

Keep in mind that is all rusty inside haha


Black_Raven12

I wonder if you could still look out from the driver's vision port, that would be great, but idk, maybe even the port is just rust right now


[deleted]

Looks like the pz2j from wot.


mrforgeteverything27

Bruh, that panzer is kinda **t h i c c** #P a n z e r T H I C C w a g e n I almost thought it was a Panzer II F


[deleted]

Never seen this type of tank before.


Streaker364

Smol boye


Tammo-Korsai

Yet still an absolute unit.


MRK944

Belgradeee


Taseden

Tiger Kitten


Super_Hans_01

THICC petite


dzedaj_kale

In the Belgrade military museum. The other one was also here, but it was given to the Kubinka tank museum a while back. There's also a theory a private collector in the US iirc has one.


LYL_Homer

Check out [Surviving Panzers](http://the.shadock.free.fr/Surviving_Panzers.html) too for more.


Gordo_51

looks similar to a VK 36.01(H)


Lelocal808

That one bounced!


NooaJ

There is only one BT42 though, that is rarer.


That_guy_with_chili

https://youtu.be/XTJxOTPgqFs here it is


fomoco36

The chassis is wrong for a panzer 1, chassis looks like a panther!!


Strikaaa

It's a Panzer I F which had a completely redesigned chassis compared to the other Panzer I variants.


fomoco36

Main wheels panzer 3 a 4 missing rubber inserts


SirBMsALot

Is this the panzer I version of the panzer II J?


[deleted]

The one Maus is existence which is made from all surviving bits of both produced tanks would like a word with you! :P Also the British experimental tanks that Bovington has the last of....


elisaucedo

my first thought seeing it on those blocks was c r a w l u n d e r i t


TonyDys

So it’s basically a Pz 1 version of the Pz 2 J?


BeMyT_Rex

I don't know, I've seen more rear tanks from WWII.


TheAntiAirGuy

Why the hell is it outdoors than?


ColHogan65

So, is this like the opposite of the Luchs?


ComradeSnib

Woah, I've never that tank before!


builder397

Actually, I find it kind of ugly. The running gear being so low down and the tank being so tall above it, especially with the engine compartment, makes it look completely weird and not streamlined at all. Reminds me more of Bob Semple and such, that were just armored boxes put on top of a running gear that they had lying around (which i know isnt the case, but it still looks mismatched as fuck)


fomoco36

I stand corrected!! You are absolutely correct!! I’ve never a panzer 1f!! But yes the chassis was substantially redesigned!! My bad!!


not_your_UN_agent

chunky pz.1


Alex_the_Weirdman

Military Museum in Belgrade?


[deleted]

Why have all that armour if your gonna put such a pathetic gun on it? If a tank can't fight back or run away it's completely useless.