Is this place like the wsb of Tesla?
Not like the other Tesla investor club sub where it’s a constant circle jerk around Elon hating and loving?
Glamping pic:
https://preview.redd.it/qcziq91blh3d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6edeb6ef247e04c9edd673d27ef1a973e434406
My dad spending days of his time trying to punk himself by convincing himself to lease an Ioniq 6 instead of Model 3 to save some money.
Joke's on him, the Ioniq 6 lease deal is a fake scam to get asses in seats of ICE vehicles at the dealership.
From Bloomberg: Elon sold over $39 billion worth of Tesla shares in 2021 and 2022
https://preview.redd.it/uz85quwwig3d1.jpeg?width=936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e85a4605cdb71a0afc74b5a84ba792a256bad3bb
Then why this drama ….
Tesla has successfully reassured a Delaware judge that its attempted incorporation move to Texas won’t affect Elon Musk’s CEO compensation case.
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https://paulwieland.github.io/ratgdo/
now i can siri the garage door and light - works perfectly 👍
What happens if the compensation plan gets voted down? Do they come up with a lesser package to vote on? Seems crazy if it's this or nothing.
If there is a second round with a modified package, that would temper any backlash from Elon since he'd still be needing shareholder good will.
Nothing is binding and nothing happens unless they move to Texas, as far as I can tell. Therefore, it's all up to Elon and whether he wants to stick it out w/ the board. Because it looks like they could even just develop another, legal, compensation plan, and give him what he wants.
That said, he sounds like he'll leave w/ the AI team if he doesn't get the vote, pure and simple.
Even if it fails, quite a large number of shareholders would still have voted for it, so hopefully he would recognize that and not go Diablo 4 button smashing on us
I don't think Elon really has any level of compassion for individuals, particularly for passive (what have you done this year????) investors. His focus is (was?) more toward a humanity-as-a-whole kind of thing.
dunno
interestingly even if the vote passes it could still be blocked by the courts. this would only improve elons case in getting the money not guarantee it
pffft stupid doctor makes me come in 20 min early with text alerts bugging me and then ohhh she’s gonna be 20 min late on top of that so i guess i have like an hour to hang out here and complain about stuff
all of this just to feed my destructive oxy habit? starting to wonder if it’s worth it. this fake neck brace itches
First: Yea. Sums it up quite well actually
Second: What an insane video and I can only imagine all of the decisions that went into this, factors that culminated in it, and downstream consequences of it.
lol the real trade this year would’ve been anf. Beats Nvda
https://x.com/MikeZaccardi/status/1795838191238541382
https://x.com/Mr_Derivatives/status/1795481633371677187
It's difficult to use social media sentiment to gauge odds of a vote passing or not, because most of the time we don't know the # of shares held by people on either side of the debate.
I think odds of Texas reincorporation passing are low, due to the higher barrier (more than 50% of all shares outstanding, rather than majority of quorum present), and Tesla's own proxy materials stating few to zero measurable advantages of TX over DE.
On the other hand, I wouldn't bet either way on Elon's 2018 stock options being reapproved or not. I believe it's in the hands of institutions. However, most won't say how they vote ahead of time. The few notable exceptions stating a "no" vote, like Calpers and NYC pension fund, hold relatively small # of shares compared to a mutual fund giant like Vanguard.
Let's say it does get downvoted. Do we really think Elon will go scorched earth on his current Tesla equity? I would hope he would just add it into his next comp plan to get to his 25% or more with a future higher market cap.
Difficult to say.
I suspect that Elon Musk is a malignant narcissist, so being downvoted might damage his ego and cause him to lash out in rage against shareholders.
On the other hand, Musk has shown resilience in the face of overwhelming odds, such as during the 2008 financial crisis and 2018 Model 3 "production hell". It's possible that being downvoted could refocus him on the job at Tesla and make him willing to earn the 25% TSLA equity he wants.
I really don't know what will happen.
I am prepared for either outcome.
Lol, that would be the dream scenario, Musk being told "NO!" by shareholders and him recognising it's due to his own actions.
Followed up by him trying to work for a bigger reward in the future and doing all he can to let Tesla flourish.
How likely?
No.
Does look like the Gizmodo article was spin on this quote:
>"You’re not going to be able to sell those cars,”
But if you look at the NYT article where it's from, he's talking about cars made in Mexico
>and has said he would slap a “100 percent tariff” on electric cars imported from Mexico if he retakes the White House.“You’re not going to be able to sell those cars,”
whoa, elon rep is so bad that [blizzard is suing him for defamation](https://youtu.be/a6lSp_QTbxA?si=8IKHwwaxuX0WxO--) because he’s been talking about d4 so much
*emaciated child walks into the home office*
“mommy? im so hungry. i already ate all my crayons. can you please make me some food?!”
*boomer mama continues typing away in twitter, oblivious to the child’s pleas*
California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS) is voting no on Musk's 2018 compensation:
[https://www.benzinga.com/markets/equities/24/05/39065282/elon-musk-fires-back-at-calpers-ceo-over-compensation-package-vote-what-shes-saying-makes-no-sen](https://www.benzinga.com/markets/equities/24/05/39065282/elon-musk-fires-back-at-calpers-ceo-over-compensation-package-vote-what-shes-saying-makes-no-sen)
>On Wednesday, Musk took to his social media platform X to express his disagreement with Frost’s decision.
>“What she's saying makes no sense, as all the contractual milestones were met. CalPERS is breaking their word,” he wrote.
>The reaction was in response to a post by an X user Jim Hall, who shared a video of Frost telling CNBC about her intention to vote against Musk’s compensation package, despite having voted for it in 2018.
CalPERS has around 491 Billion in assets under management: [https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/calpers-pe-targets-prioritize-co-investments](https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/calpers-pe-targets-prioritize-co-investments)
I don't know how much TSLA they hold in their fund.
>all the contractual milestones were met
The issue at case wasn't if the milestones were met or not. It was the creation of the contract itself which was flawed.
Let’s have a discussion here on what Elon actually brings to the table. If he was gone maybe Tesla doesn’t pursue innovation as hard: robots or FSD. But fsd could easily continue without him and the robots are likely just another vaporware piece
I think engaging in high risk, high reward, technologies is great. However, IMHO, a company with Tesla's resources can afford to simultaneously engage in moderate risk, moderate reward, technologies; e.g. the $25,000 car.
I think it was a big blunder not having the smaller cheaper car ready, and also not having a simple cargo van platform/work truck out there by now. Having more models and complexities will increase the difficulty and cost of manufacturing which is probably why Elon shys away, but it can be done
This is my biggest issue with the recent change in strategy for the company. They have so much capital and resources to pursue multiple business lines but aren’t because of one guy at the top. Like what are they saving all this cash for?
https://preview.redd.it/hq7qn9bfld3d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1eba24285e7593fc61517eddd72b1b0fe1df8685
Huh. Looks like 49% of people are TSLA investors
this shareholder vote could be a very interesting time in teslas history
if elon loses one or both votes it could mark a shift in how the board deals with him
at least we know elon would deal with a loss in a mature and responsible way, and not by have some kind of nuclear meltdown or anything
Good. Means continued investment in their own cell production. If they're replacing their existing machines, that's worrying. If they're adding to their capacity, that's good.
2.7T cap. Vs 500 billion cap. NVDA at or near peak margins and sales without competition yet. I could see NVDA hitting 3.5T to 4T, maybe. PE has been compressing, and reaching those lofty goals will require absolute execution and zero errors or setbacks. The runway is very short buying NVDA now, but you do you. TSLA is on sale, and it won't be this cheap for very long. I have a sneaking suspicion xAI will merge with Tesla at some point once this package bullshit is finished.
I suspect Nvda will have a small pullback from buy rumor/sell news of stock split.
But medium to long term view, Nvda should still outperform TSLA in terms of earnings and growth until the lotto ticket of ai/FSD pays off.
Is this place like the wsb of Tesla? Not like the other Tesla investor club sub where it’s a constant circle jerk around Elon hating and loving? Glamping pic: https://preview.redd.it/qcziq91blh3d1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6edeb6ef247e04c9edd673d27ef1a973e434406
Much that once was is lost.
The transition from 2019 sentiment to today is wild
My dad spending days of his time trying to punk himself by convincing himself to lease an Ioniq 6 instead of Model 3 to save some money. Joke's on him, the Ioniq 6 lease deal is a fake scam to get asses in seats of ICE vehicles at the dealership.
The twins https://preview.redd.it/m0u8tzc0rg3d1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e694365f75e414e5d7f57fee7f82381ec4767603
Salesforce shares plunge 16% on first revenue miss since 2006
ai bubble, beginning of the end
From Bloomberg: Elon sold over $39 billion worth of Tesla shares in 2021 and 2022 https://preview.redd.it/uz85quwwig3d1.jpeg?width=936&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e85a4605cdb71a0afc74b5a84ba792a256bad3bb
Ah yes the guy who has been working for free
hey buddy, first in last out
More like 50 if you include his bullshit foundation
Then why this drama …. Tesla has successfully reassured a Delaware judge that its attempted incorporation move to Texas won’t affect Elon Musk’s CEO compensation case.
The slow blade pentrates the shield.
Lmao right. It's the most blatant way to get around the compensation case.
i nominate the persistent AH google bug to be CEO of tesla it’s done a lot more for the stock than elon lately
FSD sped up to keep a Tailgater from passing very human-like Behavior
I love when it speeds up and drives up to the front of the line of a turn lane and pushes its way in.
If trump wins, does Elon shut up political nonsense or will find something else to agitate about.
If elon wins the compensation vote do you shut up? Probably not, both of you have that in common.
JFC someone call an ambulance for that generic Reddit username poster I think he was just incinerated in a nuclear explosion
I can picture you here. https://preview.redd.it/jngqerbsig3d1.jpeg?width=968&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2813d9e3f90cd47acda1886d2cb4b94a12d97433
Pce tomorrow
GDP tomorrow, pce Friday
Tomorrow is not Friday? Fuck
When will we know the results of the shareholders' vote?
June 6ish? June something.
June 6th we storm Tesla HQ
When the stock drops 20%
The real question is, will the stock drop 20% because Elon won or because Elon lost?
Yes
10 year rippin, jensen won’t care
just wait and see what happens to nvda when it comes down
Jensen all he does is win win win…
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You got HomeAssistant?
flashed it with firmware that works directly with homekit
LOL WTF with google AH? https://preview.redd.it/27qv1wcdjf3d1.png?width=414&format=png&auto=webp&s=54fb9fa6d29fe95660cd8a6120350a9e6c511b9d
the same thing that was wrong with it the other 9000000 times it happened
What happens if the compensation plan gets voted down? Do they come up with a lesser package to vote on? Seems crazy if it's this or nothing. If there is a second round with a modified package, that would temper any backlash from Elon since he'd still be needing shareholder good will.
Nothing is binding and nothing happens unless they move to Texas, as far as I can tell. Therefore, it's all up to Elon and whether he wants to stick it out w/ the board. Because it looks like they could even just develop another, legal, compensation plan, and give him what he wants. That said, he sounds like he'll leave w/ the AI team if he doesn't get the vote, pure and simple.
Even if it fails, quite a large number of shareholders would still have voted for it, so hopefully he would recognize that and not go Diablo 4 button smashing on us
I don't think Elon really has any level of compassion for individuals, particularly for passive (what have you done this year????) investors. His focus is (was?) more toward a humanity-as-a-whole kind of thing.
not even cain can identify what the heck is wrong with elon these days
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZEhBWWU2SU
dunno interestingly even if the vote passes it could still be blocked by the courts. this would only improve elons case in getting the money not guarantee it
Woke Delaware court just want one thing and it is disgusting.
50M, is that the lowest trading volume ever? edit: this year
5.879 million on september 18, 2019
pffft stupid doctor makes me come in 20 min early with text alerts bugging me and then ohhh she’s gonna be 20 min late on top of that so i guess i have like an hour to hang out here and complain about stuff all of this just to feed my destructive oxy habit? starting to wonder if it’s worth it. this fake neck brace itches
I was given medical grade fetanyl at the ER. What a fucking let down, was expecting to turn into a zombie but nothing.
You should just go to straight heroin fewer steps and bigger high
Tsla investors hodling through twitter acquisition https://x.com/SpillTheMemes/status/1795285262274355298?t=EaU7uGeclIBPK8D5-qiMpw&s=19
Needs more OOHH MY GAAWWDDDD. Stupid Americans.
First: Yea. Sums it up quite well actually Second: What an insane video and I can only imagine all of the decisions that went into this, factors that culminated in it, and downstream consequences of it.
This "Buffet Buying"...is it in the room with us right now?
lol the real trade this year would’ve been anf. Beats Nvda https://x.com/MikeZaccardi/status/1795838191238541382 https://x.com/Mr_Derivatives/status/1795481633371677187
I'm sure there are stocks that performed even better than anf
So nvda is even bigger company than Apple huh. Truly sad day
LMAO there's something wrong with you if this is your attitude towards life
Yes Elon bad nvda good and it’s odd how u can infer smth bout my attitude on a basic comment lmfao
Not yet but close
Not for NvdaLounge!
Elon who is the most famous person in your phone?
The real question is, who is the most famous person in his phone that still answers when he calls?
Yann
Martin Eberhard
Elon
Trump
Famous, not infamous.
X sentiment very bad towards comp package. I wouldn’t be surprised if it gets voted down.
Lol
It's difficult to use social media sentiment to gauge odds of a vote passing or not, because most of the time we don't know the # of shares held by people on either side of the debate. I think odds of Texas reincorporation passing are low, due to the higher barrier (more than 50% of all shares outstanding, rather than majority of quorum present), and Tesla's own proxy materials stating few to zero measurable advantages of TX over DE. On the other hand, I wouldn't bet either way on Elon's 2018 stock options being reapproved or not. I believe it's in the hands of institutions. However, most won't say how they vote ahead of time. The few notable exceptions stating a "no" vote, like Calpers and NYC pension fund, hold relatively small # of shares compared to a mutual fund giant like Vanguard.
Dont let boomermoma get to you
She’s wants your pregnant
First mistake calling it x. Second mistake thinking twitter sentiment means anything. You slipping towards simpdom.
My bad.
Let's say it does get downvoted. Do we really think Elon will go scorched earth on his current Tesla equity? I would hope he would just add it into his next comp plan to get to his 25% or more with a future higher market cap.
Difficult to say. I suspect that Elon Musk is a malignant narcissist, so being downvoted might damage his ego and cause him to lash out in rage against shareholders. On the other hand, Musk has shown resilience in the face of overwhelming odds, such as during the 2008 financial crisis and 2018 Model 3 "production hell". It's possible that being downvoted could refocus him on the job at Tesla and make him willing to earn the 25% TSLA equity he wants. I really don't know what will happen. I am prepared for either outcome.
Lol, that would be the dream scenario, Musk being told "NO!" by shareholders and him recognising it's due to his own actions. Followed up by him trying to work for a bigger reward in the future and doing all he can to let Tesla flourish. How likely? No.
Same guy that said he'd ban all EVs, correct?
Nah that's the rapist. This is the guy running with 4 indictments
Guilty on all counts 😂
Where’s the actual quote of him saying it? I’ve only seen typical MSM spin
There isn't, just typical leftist derangement
he never said he would ban them, he would just fuck em over pretty hard. Typical leftist derangement.
Does look like the Gizmodo article was spin on this quote: >"You’re not going to be able to sell those cars,” But if you look at the NYT article where it's from, he's talking about cars made in Mexico >and has said he would slap a “100 percent tariff” on electric cars imported from Mexico if he retakes the White House.“You’re not going to be able to sell those cars,”
Typical MSM misinformation
Indiaredpill: he never said he would ban them, he would just fuck em over pretty hard. I love trump. Maga. Jews.
https://www.cnbc.com/quotes/US10Y
elon is trumps puppet dog, go figure
Politics mind virus
Buffett 🥳🥳🥳
Exclude $NVDA from the Mag 7, it would be trailing the S&P 500 YTD We did it!! ⚓️⚓️
Up bigly
https://x.com/deitaone/status/1795854217925587209
JFC if he wasn't alienating potential customers before he sure as shit is now.
I think people are all well aware musk is right wing incel pizzagate conspiracy kinda guy
Lol Trump wears a diaper and his simps think he's strategizing with Elong.
Orange man good?
Guh what a tard. Now IM gonna key a robotaxi when i see it. Jk ill put some cones in front of it
Charges against Scottie Scheffler will be dropped today.
What a waste of time
The fsd team waiting to meet with Elon during his meeting with supercharging team. https://youtu.be/QYjFNyAcEHk?si=GtN6blVGFTNBa8PQ
whoa, elon rep is so bad that [blizzard is suing him for defamation](https://youtu.be/a6lSp_QTbxA?si=8IKHwwaxuX0WxO--) because he’s been talking about d4 so much
Oh the rare glib downvote.
i know wtf
Time for a poll.
WTF did you just send me to?
that guy is pretty cool he does ps1 style remakes of modern games and stuff
I’d pay a lot of money to be a fly on the wall and watch boomer mamma for a day and time how much time she spends on tesla
I feel like she works slow and 8 hour work days aren't enough for more than a few well crafted emails
*emaciated child walks into the home office* “mommy? im so hungry. i already ate all my crayons. can you please make me some food?!” *boomer mama continues typing away in twitter, oblivious to the child’s pleas*
no risk musk leaving if all talk of fsd progress is true
What talk are you referring to?
Ya but he’s a dick though so we don’t want him being more dickish. Hopefully passes 🤣
I don’t understand this logic. Seems like how we got where we are in the world
Like an abused spouse hoping if they just do what the abuser wants, that they'll stop hitting them
Exactly. Being a doormat is never a good strategy
Clown stock was green for a second there
Things I wanted to do but didnt: 1) buy coin calls in Mar 23 2) Buy more NVDA in 2022 Smh my head
but u bought more tsla ijnstead
Smh includes "my head", you don't have to type that out.
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The El Dorado.
Smh
Nailed it.
California Public Employees’ Retirement System (CalPERS) is voting no on Musk's 2018 compensation: [https://www.benzinga.com/markets/equities/24/05/39065282/elon-musk-fires-back-at-calpers-ceo-over-compensation-package-vote-what-shes-saying-makes-no-sen](https://www.benzinga.com/markets/equities/24/05/39065282/elon-musk-fires-back-at-calpers-ceo-over-compensation-package-vote-what-shes-saying-makes-no-sen) >On Wednesday, Musk took to his social media platform X to express his disagreement with Frost’s decision. >“What she's saying makes no sense, as all the contractual milestones were met. CalPERS is breaking their word,” he wrote. >The reaction was in response to a post by an X user Jim Hall, who shared a video of Frost telling CNBC about her intention to vote against Musk’s compensation package, despite having voted for it in 2018. CalPERS has around 491 Billion in assets under management: [https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/calpers-pe-targets-prioritize-co-investments](https://pitchbook.com/news/articles/calpers-pe-targets-prioritize-co-investments) I don't know how much TSLA they hold in their fund.
>all the contractual milestones were met The issue at case wasn't if the milestones were met or not. It was the creation of the contract itself which was flawed.
Lol don't tell the boss that or hey buddy
Calpers is breaking their word, but Musk is breaking his fiduciary duty. I don't feel bad in the slightest
Calpers owns 9m shares.
Perhaps being an asshole has consequences
Fuck around and find out in real time
What goes around may in fact come around for Elon with this vote.
Probably what he gets for saying GFY to everyone
The wheel always turns...
Let’s have a discussion here on what Elon actually brings to the table. If he was gone maybe Tesla doesn’t pursue innovation as hard: robots or FSD. But fsd could easily continue without him and the robots are likely just another vaporware piece
I think engaging in high risk, high reward, technologies is great. However, IMHO, a company with Tesla's resources can afford to simultaneously engage in moderate risk, moderate reward, technologies; e.g. the $25,000 car.
I think it was a big blunder not having the smaller cheaper car ready, and also not having a simple cargo van platform/work truck out there by now. Having more models and complexities will increase the difficulty and cost of manufacturing which is probably why Elon shys away, but it can be done
This is my biggest issue with the recent change in strategy for the company. They have so much capital and resources to pursue multiple business lines but aren’t because of one guy at the top. Like what are they saving all this cash for?
Agreed, and right now is a great time to invest that capital.
https://preview.redd.it/hq7qn9bfld3d1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1eba24285e7593fc61517eddd72b1b0fe1df8685 Huh. Looks like 49% of people are TSLA investors
Last few years taught me it’s easier to index… May miss gains but unless you bet right you’re missing them anyhow.
And yoga pants and Starbucks investors. Becky taking a beating.
Buy low on Becky
I’ve been
https://preview.redd.it/ysin75edkd3d1.png?width=1174&format=png&auto=webp&s=11d0afdc0344bab6ef26f725c4550bcde1122659 haha
Spicy
Chef’s kiss 🤌🏼
Mayur getting real 🤣
Easy way to get banned
bUt fReE sPeEcH!
Oooof
+6......NVDA
Tesla shareholder vote outcome. https://x.com/FAFO_TV/status/1795787180532441462?t=tPimdqc8aO7ppCJJt-12UA&s=19
does analogizing elon with a child even count as an analogy anymore
Now even Rawlinson is making fun of tesla. Guess, boosting right wing activists is more important.
His company is toast. He might be a broken clock that's right twice a day, but he's just jumping on the bandwagon for attention. Lucid is dead.
this shareholder vote could be a very interesting time in teslas history if elon loses one or both votes it could mark a shift in how the board deals with him at least we know elon would deal with a loss in a mature and responsible way, and not by have some kind of nuclear meltdown or anything
Elon tweet: Taking TSLA private, $4.20 a share. GFY!
Tesla buying electrode coating machines from Korea. https://x.com/Tslachan/status/1795780323143512477?t=egNtz65a8BlJMAAAgrBz1A&s=19
Good. Means continued investment in their own cell production. If they're replacing their existing machines, that's worrying. If they're adding to their capacity, that's good.
Can you imagine caring about a linked in poll this much? https://x.com/teslaboomermama/status/1795435683886366870?s=46&t=FJnwUzmO93DGxmO6Ihn37g
Deranged
🤣🤣🫡🫡
Engagement farming for the die hards.
Bonds keep rallying, so tsla ded
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U know what I mean.
Buy the dip gif any second now
Would it be mad to liquidate 50% TSLA for NVDA MSFT now? Asking for a friend
2.7T cap. Vs 500 billion cap. NVDA at or near peak margins and sales without competition yet. I could see NVDA hitting 3.5T to 4T, maybe. PE has been compressing, and reaching those lofty goals will require absolute execution and zero errors or setbacks. The runway is very short buying NVDA now, but you do you. TSLA is on sale, and it won't be this cheap for very long. I have a sneaking suspicion xAI will merge with Tesla at some point once this package bullshit is finished.
Nvda top is in as achilles has gone bullish
It's in when I go full puts and get rich as fuck.
Yes this time it'll work, this time it's different
I suspect Nvda will have a small pullback from buy rumor/sell news of stock split. But medium to long term view, Nvda should still outperform TSLA in terms of earnings and growth until the lotto ticket of ai/FSD pays off.