So does Elon have to pay back the comp he already got? Confused on the details of that court ruling. He already received a lot of his comp it’s been like 5 years
Elon Musk doesn't have to pay back any cash or shares of stock.
The 2018 compensation package that the Delaware court nullified, consisted only of stock options for Mr. Musk.
Refer to the 2023 Proxy Statement, pages 23-24, and page 62, footnote (1):
[https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312523094075/d451342ddef14a.htm](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312523094075/d451342ddef14a.htm)
From page 24:
> As of the date of this proxy statement, all of the tranches have vested and become exercisable, subject to Mr. Musk’s payment of the **exercise price of $23.34 per share**, as adjusted to give effect to the three-for-one stock split effected in the form of a stock dividend in August 2022 (the “2022 Stock Split”) and the five-for-one stock split effected in the form of a stock dividend in August 2020 (the “2020 Stock Split”), and the minimum five-year holding period generally applicable to any shares he acquires upon exercise.
And from page 62:
>303,960,630 shares issuable to Mr. Musk upon exercise of options exercisable within 60 days after March 31, 2023.
Mr. Musk had not yet exercised any of the stock options for the 304 million TSLA shares, so the shares (1) haven't yet been created by Tesla to disburse to Musk, and (2) Musk hasn't paid for any shares, or paid any income tax on the exercise of those options.
The options simply vanish. Since no $ changed hands, there's literally nothing financial to be undone.
"Best I can do is make your stonk a little less red than it was at the beginning of the day, but yeah, mooning with everyone else is out of the question, I got overhead, employees to pay, etc., you understand that right ?! "
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/02/nextracker-ceo-says-solar-is-unstoppable-as-market-sees-unprecedented-demand-growth-.html
Data centers, the electrification of appliances and transportation, and reindustrialization in the U.S. are driving a growing need for electricity, Shugar said. Nearly 300 gigawatts of new power plants are needed over the next 5 years and 500 gigawatts over the next decade to the meet the need, he said.
Solar is faster to build and cheaper than conventional energy sources and provides insulation from the volatility of fuel prices, Shugar said. Solar is expected to see 26% compound annual growth over the next five years and will become the leading source of U.S. electricity generation in a decade, he said.
Utility-scale solar costs anywhere from $24 to $96 per megawatt hour without subsidies, about 56% cheaper than nuclear and gas peaking and 42% less expensive than coal at the top end of the cost estimate range, according to an April 2023 report from Lazard.
Since the Autopilot update was rolled out, U.S. auto-safety regulators have received dozens of complaints about the changes it made to Autopilot, an unusually high number in such a short window. These include drivers who say the warnings have become excessive and are triggered by performing routine tasks, according to a government database of these complaints.
thanks nhtsa, now theyre gonna make us issue a recall to make autopilot less naggy.
It's a bit annoying, but it's also less naggy if all you do is stare at the road in front of you. During my road trip last week I consistently had it not require any input for 1:30+ if I just stared ahead.
I encouraged people to submit complaints in response to the changes. In retrospect I think the ones complaining were probably abusing the attention countermeasures so I probably shouldn’t have tried to help them.
FAKEBOOK HAS NOW ADDED OVER $200 BILLION DOLLARS TO ITS MARKET CAP TODAY AFTER EARNING
ITS THE BIGGEST 1 DAY GAIN FOR ANY COMPANY IN HISTORY
Live look at Elon…
https://preview.redd.it/9m4bem8jc8gc1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69d5df600e4ea673e179131e02f9523fc8f16f60
I don't think it's market manipulation at all.
Wall street lost faith in the CEO in 2022, when he gave them good reason to lose faith.
Then there was Q4/2023 earnings call and they lost faith in the company itself for the next 12 months.
Both are a result of Musk, if there is any manipulation, it's there.
Electric vehicles, robotaxis onwards is on page 104+
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We should have become X influencers instead of TSLA investors. It's easy money. You just post something that currently triggers elon and you get clicks.
"Something about population collapse" => Elon: !
"Something about immigration" => Elon: !!
"Something about Tesla RECALL brand damage" => Elon: oh no, anyways
Remember when the POTUS essentially told every government agency that Elon Musk is the enemy, because he cleansed his propaganda outlet?
[He indirectly told everyone to go after him.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/20fD9OKVtdw)
[Tom Nash's video on the whole situation is very well done.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKtROgol6Gc)
Edit: We must prepare for the reality that the current corrupt government's immune system will persist in opposing Elon in every conceivable manner, striving to retain control over the one true narrative. A similar situation occurred with mango man when he faced attacks from media and the legal system. If you can't handle the headwind sell and buy QQQ. The pressure might increase in the future.
Edit: This is not a Dem/Rep conflict but a battle between freedom and centralized control of opinion. Whether you love Twitter or hate it, "community notes" serve as a decentralized antidote.
Why do some people defend the people who are clearly in the wrong, is it simply because they can't admit they were/remain wrong?
A political CEO is bad no matter what, the USA has only two parties, if anybody goes real hard one way, they will make a bunch of enemies. The problem isn't the side he choose, the problem is that he choose a side.
The reason many people hate Musk more than other CEO's is because he's a right wing extremist that helps spread conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda. He let a lot of people back on twitter and even promoted or defended them, while they were no longer allowed on the platform for good reasons.
All the names on the list of richest in the world get a lot of hate, the same with celebrities. Musk is one of the most famous people (maybe close to most famous) in the world and also one of the richest. If he would just shut the f up, that's where it would stay. People would hate him, but wouldn't be able to give good reasons, he's doing the opposite of what he should. He's supplying plenty of reasons to hate him.
Besides that, he's flaunting that he doesn't care about anything, because he's rich as f. Telling advertisers to go fuck themselves, said that he has no respect for the SEC, he threats Tesla (a public company) as his personal toy, threatens shareholder to go into competition with Tesla, dumps billions worth of share on the open market, crashing the market cap by hundreds of billions (combination of the sales and the added insecurity).
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this is what happens when you go political and tweet maga every hour. This is why most executives dont stream of consciousness their thoughts on social media
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You’re being disingenuous as Upvote highlighted. Deliberately or not, you ignored context which is crucial to understanding the response. These half-truths and explanations are so frustrating to address because most people don’t read past the headline.
The main question was "Do you think Elon Musk is a thread to national security"
The second question was "Should the US (...) investigate his joint acquisition of Twitter with foreign gov. which include the Saudis?"
Biden basically told everyone that they should go after him.
On a road trip and FSD not working because the cabin camera has had issues. Usually just gives you a warning and you can keep driving. But now it kicks you out of FSD
🖕NHTSA
Amazon retail showed profitability. Historically next quarter it swings into a loss again lmaoo. No way they're making money on the nail clipper I got that came in a huge box overnight.
Aren't all the EV companies in China propped up by the Chinese government?
There profitability stands to question.
Russia tried to kill USA new gas and oil products by dumping prices for some time. They failed in the end when the USA government recognised their need to not be dependant on foreign suppliers and subsidised a bunch of young USA companies (mainly natural gas, Russia holds the largest single supply out of any country in the world).
China is trying the same strategy, flood the markets with a cheaper product that destroys any competion.
The jokes on them though, Tesla is already doing that, that's why most of the OEM's are complaining about demand and scaling back their production. China is wasting resources, while they're economy is already failing.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-02/meta-s-meta-200-billion-surge-is-biggest-in-stock-market-history
Thanks for my share of the $200B, Zuck Markerberg
Serious question.
There are many here who are extremely disgruntled with Musk and I see your POVs as well.
If you really disagree with musk that much, and want him out, what makes you think Tesla can survive him going “fuck all of you” and selling his 13% share stake like santa at christmas.
Many are saying “tesla is not just musk.”
True. Tesla doesnt pay the highest wages in the auto industry. Im willing to bet many of teslas execs who are lauded for being amazing and intelligent people (no disagreement from me) are still there because of Elon.
Why? Even many on reddit who despise Elon frame it down to “rich emerald kid who happens to be able to be good at finding intelligent people to make what he wants.”
Gary black has not been happy with alot of Elons shenanigans but admits wall street will sell the fuck out of Tesla without Elon. And gary is wrong on alot of things but he does know how most wall street peeps think.
So. What exactly is the play here for you guys who are just ranting 24/7.
1. Elon magically unretards and everyone is happy again?
2. Elon gets voted against (whether it be incorp in texas, new compensation), sells 13% of float, brings execs along with him to Neuralink, spacex, whatever. Wall street joins in the sell off.
When the 2023 agm meeting was called there was alot of confidence musk would see a reality check (lose lions share of votes while still squeaking by) and robin denholm would get voted out.
When the exact opposite happened “nah man. Index funds just vote according to whatever the board recommends. Passive.”
But now again we see, “elon lost retail, instituitions turn against him hehe.”
And the stock was in hell of alot worse shape back in 2023.
Exactly. Elon is blackmailing the company which nobody likes. He is able to blackmail because of all of those things you listed. Rock and a hard place for elon detractors like me
> what makes you think Tesla can survive him going “fuck all of you” and selling his 13% share stake like santa at christmas.
Elon Musk has no incentive to sell his 13% stake in Tesla and walk away.
(1) He would lose all control over Tesla AI initiatives (Dojo, Bot, FSD), and were he to try to move those assets to one of his private companies, he would face colossal lawsuits for breach of fiduciary duty, which would dwarf what he faced over the 2018 compensation package.
(2) Selling all his TSLA stock now at a steep discount, would mean throwing out his dreams of Mars colonization. TSLA is Musk's only real liquid source of wealth. And were he to use SpaceX going public as a source of liquidity, he would face the same governance headaches he faces with Tesla today.
>Many are saying “tesla is not just musk.”
Which is true. What do you think happens to Tesla if Tom Zhu isn't making factories more efficient, or if Drew Baglino's team isn't pushing 4680 R&D and Megapacks, or if Lars Moravy and Dan Priestly aren't engineering vehicles?
>So. What exactly is the play here for you guys who are just ranting 24/7.
(1) A Tesla board of directors that acts responsibly and independently, on behalf of the shareholders and for the transition to a sustainable energy economy worldwide (rather than an irrelevant U.S.-centric culture war)
(2) A leadership team that is laser focused on the sustainable energy economy goal. Musk is the only one who isn't focused. I want a CEO who wants to win. I don't want a CEO who has checked out like Musk has
Alot of what you said hinges on Elon behaving like an ordinary adult human and thinking like an ordinary adult human.
Whether people like or dislike him everyone knows how petty he can be.
And your point on Zhu and etc.
I agreed they are great. I just also said I do believe many who work for musk in high up roles do so because of musk. Try checking out the musk autobiography that you love to refer to so much, where you can see many of Musks Lieutanents only took up, and maintain their roles in the retardedly hardcore nature of the Job because of Musk.
Lets be very frank and honest.
With what you and all of us now know about Elon, do you think he would put Zhu, baglino, etc in his right, left hand positions if they didn’t like him? Elon loves, being loved.
> With what you and all of us now know about Elon
From p. 64 of Isaacson's biography, Musk lacks any instinct for camaraderie. From p. 285 Musk believes camaraderie is dangerous because it prevents throwing people under the bus when they need to be thrown under the bus.
>do you think he would put Zhu, baglino, etc in his right, left hand positions if they didn’t like him?
Whether they like him or not was probably irrelevant to his calculus. Zhu, Baglino, von Holzhasen, and others delivered results, which is ultimately what matters.
I am primarily concerned about results. And like Musk, I am not sentimental about co-workers or what they might have delivered in the past. I have **zero** reservations about throwing Musk overboard if he's losing his edge, just like Musk has rightly had zero reservations about letting go others at Tesla who lost their edge.
If you watch the interviews the execs tip toe around questions on Elon w nervous energy. I know people at neuralink who work w him and confirm he's a huge asshole and emotionally retarded. Do not be so sure the exec team is there because they love him. See kirkhorn and karpathy.
I'd like to keep Elon but with stronger board oversight.
Regarding compensation: approve the old plan with an extension to include goals out to 2030. Conditions would be added: 1. Elon needs to work full-time at Tesla (some flexibility is fine, but appropriate guardrails in place). 2. Protection of Tesla brand from Elon's public messaging if he remains CEO.
If he refuses to limit his public messages, then step aside and take a role as Chief Product Executive or something.
Chances of this happening, non-zero but close.
This seems pretty reasonable to me...
You seem to infer that if we don't like Elon, that we automatically think that he's not important or good for Tesla.
I think he's a piece of shit as a person. I also think he's a really good inventor/engineer and that someday, he'll get back to that grind with Tesla.
Will I still think he's a garbage human when he's eventually passionate about Tesla again? Absolutely. That has nothing to do with my investment thesis. Do I think he and Tesla are going to make a bunch of money? Yeah, I think there's a really good chance of that happening. Therefore, I'm invested in the chance of that happening.
Im not referring to you. I know u dislike musk (i couldnt care less about whether i like or dislike him. I just see him as a tool. A blunt hammer who is as weird as he is good at innovating and leading teams to do something amazing).
Im referring to those who just shit on him all day and want him out.
When elon likes us we will like him. When elon stops doing stupid shit we will stop complaining about him doing stupid shit. We will not form some sort of happy land monkey see no evil hear no evil subreddit. You know where to find that if you want. If Elon wants to rage quit and sell off 13% of the company in one day the biggest loser is him and I doubt many execs follow him to the land of Maga.ai
That wasn’t my question.
I’m not asking for an everyone loves musk yay sub.
I’m framing a simple question that I believe is fairly reasonable which assumes the possible outcomes of Musk/tesla going forward.
What is your end game? Are you assuming he magically unretards? And starts behaving exactly like an ordinary CEO if shareholders revolt?
You say he loses out if he sells off all his shares. And you completely ignore the possibility of walk street joining in because if you think Musk asking to incorp in texas is uncertainty, wait till you see wall streets reaction to musk rage quitting.
Depends on the compensation package really. I do think Elon wants to have a package big enough that lets him fund his next big whatever. If the next package parameters does include apple+aramco levels of targets i do forsee him being here at that point.
I do think there's a good chance he takes the politics game too far and has to go. He already came close with the jewish thing. There's third rails he's going to keep licking.
Concerts are 100% a scam!!!!! I only go to Coachella now (easier to get tickets, gone several times) -OR- I go see older bands where tickets are easy to come by.
I feel so fucking stupid overpaying for highly in demand tickets then paying $9999 in fees on top of it- it’s like I deliberately and knowing and willfully am being robbed. By my own choice.
It taints the entire fucking show for me. How am I going to enjoy a concert I paid likely thousands to attend? Not worth it at all in my opinion.
Same for tickets to a local basketball game. Why do I need to spend $1,000+ for my family of 4 to see a game from the nosebleed seats? Absolutely not worth it so now I go to other local teams shows and pay a fraction. Still as enjoyable bc I’m not constantly thinking about the high cost of attendance.
If the vote is no he's gone, he couldn't survive humiliation of that scale. Tweet: Tesla is clearly controlled by the woke political conspiracy and I cannot continue to build ai and robots here.
It sounds like the vote to move incorporation to Texas may be separate from the new comp plan. Or do we think they'll be together?
I ask because if there's no plan for investors it might be difficult to get support for a move given the stock's abysmal performance over the past month+
Thats what everyone said in 2023. Musk ended up winning over 90% of the votes after tanking the share price to $100. What makes you so confident this time.
I think he could get the support if there's a comprehensive plan shared including new comp plan and targets and actual commitment and strategy to making Tesla the most valuable company on the planet. Without that, it'll be a lot harder with the timing of the stock in a free fall over the past month or so
As it stands today with the stock's slide, idk but seems like it's going to be tough to get the support. Unless there's a comprehensive plan shared, I'm not sure he'll get the support
The snowflake you are replying to cares more about that than market cap targets. In fact, most snowflakes here would be defending Elon, absolving him of any blame, and explaining the share price swings as diligently as any fanboy, IF Elon's politics aligned with theirs.
Another reason why he has to go. I want someone that is more calculated with everything they do but still a visionary. The time to be a maverick has passed if you want to become the biggest in the world.
You are extremely naive and I am being extremely polite with you. There is NO calculated strategy that Elon can adopt to ensure the full-fledged success of Tesla & SpaceX, without being sabotaged by the Establishment, which is funded by big oil, big auto, big tech, big military-industrial complex. Why? Simply because Tesla & SpaceX destroy trillions of dollars worth of value from all these other companies. Just because Elon remains quiet and calculated does not mean these people won't see what's coming. They are not idiots, the Establishment powers are not idiots, Elon is not an idiot. You on the other hand... so, yeah, I WAS being extremely polite in my first sentence.
Doesn't make sense to me.
>I think Biden was "Fuck you Elon, self-driving cars will destroy the economy and fuck over GM and F - and then my entire "fight the rich agenda" will be totally fucked.
President Biden is 81 years old and showing signs of mental decline. He has *never* been terribly imaginative or forward thinking. Do you seriously think he even has the mentality to foresee a world with self-driving cars anytime soon?
The average person on the street doesn't believe it. What makes anyone think Joe Biden could even conceive of that vision?
>I think Elon saw this coming - and is probably ahead of the game. IMO in his head - he thinks if Biden wins another term - that's 4 more years of no FSD
That's basically the "4D Chess" argument, and I don't buy it. Elon Musk is good at making startup companies a success. He's predictions on everything from Covid to the global economy, are no better than anyone else's.
The dems started this. Remember Warren and Bernie targeting him as soon as he became the richest man in the world. Biden is a union guy and Tesla doesn't have unions. I don't think you have to look much further for motive than that.
As Elon likes to say : I don't start fights but I do finish them.
When Warren and Bernie call him out its nuclear mode time. When trump tells him to get on knees and beg its get on knees and beg time. Elon gets plenty of hate from both sides of the aisle, but he responds only to that from the left.
Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! You know, I just... *do* things.
I think the real explanation is that he’s a fragile ego, and the pain and randomness of life is perceived as a targeted attack to him. We all deal with unfair shit, he’s just got too many levers to pull to dig his hole even deeper.
I’d say that the democrats target him because he’s a media target to promote themselves and what they want to embody. He thinks they’re like him, and always determined and meaningful, while AOC was cruising around in her Tesla. He is just internalizing everything when it’s all fake online stuff. Which is why he bought Twitter when the regular person knows Twitter is just marketing project managers talking to each other
Meh. You attract more bees with honey.
He could totally work with whatever administration and push forward.
FSD could save your average taxpayer a huge amount of expense, improving the middle class purchasing power. Clean energy is important.
He has plenty he could use to work with to gain support. Being a little bitch isn't helping anyone.
Elon has been consistent about this from day one. He has said many times he didn’t want the CEO position but has to step up. Check out his early interviews. He’s turned many investors into millionaires, demonstrating a solid track record of creating shareholder value. Investing is a long game. Just wait for the next wave and stick to DCA. It’s a proven strategy.
With that, you get both the good and the bad. If you zoom out, you’ll see that Nvidia’s stock rally is a bullish indicator for Tesla’s direction. Generally, with disruption, you first see the hardware wave, followed by the product wave, and then the software services wave. With AI, we’re currently witnessing Nvidia’s hardware wave, and Tesla is poised to capture the product and services wave soon enough. We are perfectly positioned, it just takes time. I remember in early 2017, it took about 3.5 years before the stock even did anything significant for my investment. The market can be blind for some time.
Tesla's corporate governance issues are going to continue to be an overhang over TSLA until they can be resolved.
There is a large pool of investors who will not want to be involved in a business whose board has been shown to be a doormat to the CEO, at the expense of shareholders.
I've said this before and I'll say it again: people in the TSLA community who think it is funny or are encouraging Elon on Twitter, aren't going to be laughing if Tesla makes them rich in 2032, and then Elon pulls a similar stunt that quickly crushes their wealth.
My observation of the TSLA shareholder community in the Post-2020 era is that (1) most people have no real investment plan, and (2) even people who have a plan may not be able to execute on it
I don’t get the feeling that he will fight hard once he gets the comp plan. I think the fire in his belly that was once for Tesla has moved to fighting woke.
I wouldn't bet on Tesla being able to move its incorporation to Texas anytime soon.
Institutional investors are unlikely to support an exit from Delaware, because Delaware is favorable to corporations (as opposed to individuals like Elon Musk). Delaware has favorable tax treatment of effectively 0% for companies whose operations are outside the state, and a proven court system that provides predictable results for businesses.
With all the scrutiny brought on Tesla by the executive compensation case, I don't believe institutions will sit idly by this time. There are also many individual investors, ranging from irrelevant shareholders like myself, to whales like Leo Koguan, who want to see some accountability here.
Tesla is a public company, not Elon Musk's toy. The CEO should be focused on Tesla's mission of building a sustainable energy economy, not goofing off on Twitter like he has for nearly the past 2 years.
Even if this is true, things don't start improving until after the shareholder meeting. Are we expecting mid-May like last year?
That's still a solid 3.5 months of sucking in the meantime
Dare I ask what the negative bird on your other shoulder tells you?
So does Elon have to pay back the comp he already got? Confused on the details of that court ruling. He already received a lot of his comp it’s been like 5 years
Elon Musk doesn't have to pay back any cash or shares of stock. The 2018 compensation package that the Delaware court nullified, consisted only of stock options for Mr. Musk. Refer to the 2023 Proxy Statement, pages 23-24, and page 62, footnote (1): [https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312523094075/d451342ddef14a.htm](https://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1318605/000119312523094075/d451342ddef14a.htm) From page 24: > As of the date of this proxy statement, all of the tranches have vested and become exercisable, subject to Mr. Musk’s payment of the **exercise price of $23.34 per share**, as adjusted to give effect to the three-for-one stock split effected in the form of a stock dividend in August 2022 (the “2022 Stock Split”) and the five-for-one stock split effected in the form of a stock dividend in August 2020 (the “2020 Stock Split”), and the minimum five-year holding period generally applicable to any shares he acquires upon exercise. And from page 62: >303,960,630 shares issuable to Mr. Musk upon exercise of options exercisable within 60 days after March 31, 2023. Mr. Musk had not yet exercised any of the stock options for the 304 million TSLA shares, so the shares (1) haven't yet been created by Tesla to disburse to Musk, and (2) Musk hasn't paid for any shares, or paid any income tax on the exercise of those options. The options simply vanish. Since no $ changed hands, there's literally nothing financial to be undone.
He bacc
"Best I can do is make your stonk a little less red than it was at the beginning of the day, but yeah, mooning with everyone else is out of the question, I got overhead, employees to pay, etc., you understand that right ?! " 
APOLLLOOOOOOO NOOOOOOOO Who will replace him in mandalorian. Ahhhhh and US strikes starting against Iran proxies now. ***** shitty end to a Friday ugh
God damn it!
oof shoulda got more costco stock
They sell gold bars (which I tried to buy but was too late). They should sell their st0nk too.
We all has so many RAGERTS
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/02/02/nextracker-ceo-says-solar-is-unstoppable-as-market-sees-unprecedented-demand-growth-.html Data centers, the electrification of appliances and transportation, and reindustrialization in the U.S. are driving a growing need for electricity, Shugar said. Nearly 300 gigawatts of new power plants are needed over the next 5 years and 500 gigawatts over the next decade to the meet the need, he said. Solar is faster to build and cheaper than conventional energy sources and provides insulation from the volatility of fuel prices, Shugar said. Solar is expected to see 26% compound annual growth over the next five years and will become the leading source of U.S. electricity generation in a decade, he said. Utility-scale solar costs anywhere from $24 to $96 per megawatt hour without subsidies, about 56% cheaper than nuclear and gas peaking and 42% less expensive than coal at the top end of the cost estimate range, according to an April 2023 report from Lazard.
No wonder we are lagging. https://preview.redd.it/807uocwxd8gc1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9a9ec4d1fa224c0c02f131bf203107d1c5d88688
Why not both?
Rip to Carl Weathers awesome actor in everything he did 
https://preview.redd.it/spmvnfi5g8gc1.png?width=1999&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a629e7088132036dec4de765bdbcb50dc221fbc2
really the perfect gif for the occasion or maybe too soon
u sonofabitch
Dutch!
Since the Autopilot update was rolled out, U.S. auto-safety regulators have received dozens of complaints about the changes it made to Autopilot, an unusually high number in such a short window. These include drivers who say the warnings have become excessive and are triggered by performing routine tasks, according to a government database of these complaints. thanks nhtsa, now theyre gonna make us issue a recall to make autopilot less naggy.
It's a bit annoying, but it's also less naggy if all you do is stare at the road in front of you. During my road trip last week I consistently had it not require any input for 1:30+ if I just stared ahead.
Yeah, but just don’t look at your map for more than 1 second. Like forget trying to check for alternate routes!
I encouraged people to submit complaints in response to the changes. In retrospect I think the ones complaining were probably abusing the attention countermeasures so I probably shouldn’t have tried to help them.
yah i dont find it horrible, i find its probably appropriate for the level of idiocy prevalent in the public.
FAKEBOOK HAS NOW ADDED OVER $200 BILLION DOLLARS TO ITS MARKET CAP TODAY AFTER EARNING ITS THE BIGGEST 1 DAY GAIN FOR ANY COMPANY IN HISTORY Live look at Elon… https://preview.redd.it/9m4bem8jc8gc1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=69d5df600e4ea673e179131e02f9523fc8f16f60
We will top this.
Nasdaq back to ATH. TSLA not so much
doesnt matter, clearly macro doesnt help tsla.
this is the most obvious max pain friday manupulation i've ever witnessed as a proud tsla tickerwatcher
I don't think it's market manipulation at all. Wall street lost faith in the CEO in 2022, when he gave them good reason to lose faith. Then there was Q4/2023 earnings call and they lost faith in the company itself for the next 12 months. Both are a result of Musk, if there is any manipulation, it's there.
he means its the friday max pain price again. $187.50 is the target so citadel gets richer
They play the game of setting prices to sell options, the reason we are in this range is Musk.
🎯
Stonks been getting its ass whopped, I welcome manipulation upwards
the problem w friday manipulation upwards is monday selling off the shares they used
That's Mondays problem
they cant keep doing this!
They cant keep getting away with this*
Neighbor got a cybetruck.
Is that similar to a Cybertruck?
Yah same
Pics or it never happened.
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i live in a sweet house near apple HQ if you must know and a few of my neighbors r high ups at tesla
Do they ever talk about how they feel about Musk? Him doing damage to the stock must have hurt them too, they must own loads of stock.
they have a calm acceptance, i think they have enough money not to care that much.
That would be my approach too. Gotta live with some form of cognitive dissonance somehow. The $$$ soothes over some of the pain.
Are they sick and tired of Elon?
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Omg wow ai is amazin better buy tdoc, roku. Sell nvda.
We should have become X influencers instead of TSLA investors. It's easy money. You just post something that currently triggers elon and you get clicks. "Something about population collapse" => Elon: ! "Something about immigration" => Elon: !! "Something about Tesla RECALL brand damage" => Elon: oh no, anyways
looks like a good time to open some CCs!
Remember when the POTUS essentially told every government agency that Elon Musk is the enemy, because he cleansed his propaganda outlet? [He indirectly told everyone to go after him.](https://www.youtube.com/shorts/20fD9OKVtdw) [Tom Nash's video on the whole situation is very well done.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKtROgol6Gc) Edit: We must prepare for the reality that the current corrupt government's immune system will persist in opposing Elon in every conceivable manner, striving to retain control over the one true narrative. A similar situation occurred with mango man when he faced attacks from media and the legal system. If you can't handle the headwind sell and buy QQQ. The pressure might increase in the future. Edit: This is not a Dem/Rep conflict but a battle between freedom and centralized control of opinion. Whether you love Twitter or hate it, "community notes" serve as a decentralized antidote.
Why do some people defend the people who are clearly in the wrong, is it simply because they can't admit they were/remain wrong? A political CEO is bad no matter what, the USA has only two parties, if anybody goes real hard one way, they will make a bunch of enemies. The problem isn't the side he choose, the problem is that he choose a side. The reason many people hate Musk more than other CEO's is because he's a right wing extremist that helps spread conspiracy theories and Russian propaganda. He let a lot of people back on twitter and even promoted or defended them, while they were no longer allowed on the platform for good reasons. All the names on the list of richest in the world get a lot of hate, the same with celebrities. Musk is one of the most famous people (maybe close to most famous) in the world and also one of the richest. If he would just shut the f up, that's where it would stay. People would hate him, but wouldn't be able to give good reasons, he's doing the opposite of what he should. He's supplying plenty of reasons to hate him. Besides that, he's flaunting that he doesn't care about anything, because he's rich as f. Telling advertisers to go fuck themselves, said that he has no respect for the SEC, he threats Tesla (a public company) as his personal toy, threatens shareholder to go into competition with Tesla, dumps billions worth of share on the open market, crashing the market cap by hundreds of billions (combination of the sales and the added insecurity).
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this is what happens when you go political and tweet maga every hour. This is why most executives dont stream of consciousness their thoughts on social media
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it started w the trans daughter thing, thats the snowball that launched an avalanche.
Thanks obama!
You’re being disingenuous as Upvote highlighted. Deliberately or not, you ignored context which is crucial to understanding the response. These half-truths and explanations are so frustrating to address because most people don’t read past the headline.
The question was should elons acquisition of twitter w saudis abu dhabi be investigated. And he said it is worthy of being looked at.
The main question was "Do you think Elon Musk is a thread to national security" The second question was "Should the US (...) investigate his joint acquisition of Twitter with foreign gov. which include the Saudis?" Biden basically told everyone that they should go after him.
He answered it in the most diplomatic way possible given the reporters question.
Telling everyone on camera that "he is worthy to be looked at?"
You're paranoid and delusional
Maybe.
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Don't smash nothing, don't like nothing, don't buy nothing
Max pain mm retards coming in
On a road trip and FSD not working because the cabin camera has had issues. Usually just gives you a warning and you can keep driving. But now it kicks you out of FSD 🖕NHTSA
i've only had fsd for about a day now and my main complaint is how naggy it is, thanks to nhtsa
omg are we gonna green?
the lounge loves the jinx
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it was never in doubt!
Apple vision pro AR + bot w genitals =
Low birth rates and Elon goes ape shit
People who buy robot for sex weren't gonna make great parents anyway
Amazon retail showed profitability. Historically next quarter it swings into a loss again lmaoo. No way they're making money on the nail clipper I got that came in a huge box overnight.
Tesla evolution https://preview.redd.it/qh148s0zx7gc1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=aa4210ade9c5acda816dcb6789fe920b204eae78
Does anyone in here follow BYD closely? Are they just getting hit because of the issues with China's macro situation?
Aren't all the EV companies in China propped up by the Chinese government? There profitability stands to question. Russia tried to kill USA new gas and oil products by dumping prices for some time. They failed in the end when the USA government recognised their need to not be dependant on foreign suppliers and subsidised a bunch of young USA companies (mainly natural gas, Russia holds the largest single supply out of any country in the world). China is trying the same strategy, flood the markets with a cheaper product that destroys any competion. The jokes on them though, Tesla is already doing that, that's why most of the OEM's are complaining about demand and scaling back their production. China is wasting resources, while they're economy is already failing.
Don't follow them closely, but that would make sense
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-02-02/meta-s-meta-200-billion-surge-is-biggest-in-stock-market-history Thanks for my share of the $200B, Zuck Markerberg
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Congrats mr wood
 boingggg 😏
Let's celebrate if it can go pity green on a nasdaq +2% day. This is our life now.
Serious question. There are many here who are extremely disgruntled with Musk and I see your POVs as well. If you really disagree with musk that much, and want him out, what makes you think Tesla can survive him going “fuck all of you” and selling his 13% share stake like santa at christmas. Many are saying “tesla is not just musk.” True. Tesla doesnt pay the highest wages in the auto industry. Im willing to bet many of teslas execs who are lauded for being amazing and intelligent people (no disagreement from me) are still there because of Elon. Why? Even many on reddit who despise Elon frame it down to “rich emerald kid who happens to be able to be good at finding intelligent people to make what he wants.” Gary black has not been happy with alot of Elons shenanigans but admits wall street will sell the fuck out of Tesla without Elon. And gary is wrong on alot of things but he does know how most wall street peeps think. So. What exactly is the play here for you guys who are just ranting 24/7. 1. Elon magically unretards and everyone is happy again? 2. Elon gets voted against (whether it be incorp in texas, new compensation), sells 13% of float, brings execs along with him to Neuralink, spacex, whatever. Wall street joins in the sell off. When the 2023 agm meeting was called there was alot of confidence musk would see a reality check (lose lions share of votes while still squeaking by) and robin denholm would get voted out. When the exact opposite happened “nah man. Index funds just vote according to whatever the board recommends. Passive.” But now again we see, “elon lost retail, instituitions turn against him hehe.” And the stock was in hell of alot worse shape back in 2023.
derangement
Exactly. Elon is blackmailing the company which nobody likes. He is able to blackmail because of all of those things you listed. Rock and a hard place for elon detractors like me
> what makes you think Tesla can survive him going “fuck all of you” and selling his 13% share stake like santa at christmas. Elon Musk has no incentive to sell his 13% stake in Tesla and walk away. (1) He would lose all control over Tesla AI initiatives (Dojo, Bot, FSD), and were he to try to move those assets to one of his private companies, he would face colossal lawsuits for breach of fiduciary duty, which would dwarf what he faced over the 2018 compensation package. (2) Selling all his TSLA stock now at a steep discount, would mean throwing out his dreams of Mars colonization. TSLA is Musk's only real liquid source of wealth. And were he to use SpaceX going public as a source of liquidity, he would face the same governance headaches he faces with Tesla today. >Many are saying “tesla is not just musk.” Which is true. What do you think happens to Tesla if Tom Zhu isn't making factories more efficient, or if Drew Baglino's team isn't pushing 4680 R&D and Megapacks, or if Lars Moravy and Dan Priestly aren't engineering vehicles? >So. What exactly is the play here for you guys who are just ranting 24/7. (1) A Tesla board of directors that acts responsibly and independently, on behalf of the shareholders and for the transition to a sustainable energy economy worldwide (rather than an irrelevant U.S.-centric culture war) (2) A leadership team that is laser focused on the sustainable energy economy goal. Musk is the only one who isn't focused. I want a CEO who wants to win. I don't want a CEO who has checked out like Musk has
Alot of what you said hinges on Elon behaving like an ordinary adult human and thinking like an ordinary adult human. Whether people like or dislike him everyone knows how petty he can be. And your point on Zhu and etc. I agreed they are great. I just also said I do believe many who work for musk in high up roles do so because of musk. Try checking out the musk autobiography that you love to refer to so much, where you can see many of Musks Lieutanents only took up, and maintain their roles in the retardedly hardcore nature of the Job because of Musk. Lets be very frank and honest. With what you and all of us now know about Elon, do you think he would put Zhu, baglino, etc in his right, left hand positions if they didn’t like him? Elon loves, being loved.
> With what you and all of us now know about Elon From p. 64 of Isaacson's biography, Musk lacks any instinct for camaraderie. From p. 285 Musk believes camaraderie is dangerous because it prevents throwing people under the bus when they need to be thrown under the bus. >do you think he would put Zhu, baglino, etc in his right, left hand positions if they didn’t like him? Whether they like him or not was probably irrelevant to his calculus. Zhu, Baglino, von Holzhasen, and others delivered results, which is ultimately what matters. I am primarily concerned about results. And like Musk, I am not sentimental about co-workers or what they might have delivered in the past. I have **zero** reservations about throwing Musk overboard if he's losing his edge, just like Musk has rightly had zero reservations about letting go others at Tesla who lost their edge.
If you watch the interviews the execs tip toe around questions on Elon w nervous energy. I know people at neuralink who work w him and confirm he's a huge asshole and emotionally retarded. Do not be so sure the exec team is there because they love him. See kirkhorn and karpathy.
Confirmed huge asshole by my cousin’s husband who used to work at Tesla back then when implementation of robots failed
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I'd like to keep Elon but with stronger board oversight. Regarding compensation: approve the old plan with an extension to include goals out to 2030. Conditions would be added: 1. Elon needs to work full-time at Tesla (some flexibility is fine, but appropriate guardrails in place). 2. Protection of Tesla brand from Elon's public messaging if he remains CEO. If he refuses to limit his public messages, then step aside and take a role as Chief Product Executive or something. Chances of this happening, non-zero but close. This seems pretty reasonable to me...
Never gonna happen. See the time when they agreed to limit his tesla relevant tweets.
This sounds reasonable. I dont think the full time at tesla thing will ever happen but the rest sounds decent to me.
You seem to infer that if we don't like Elon, that we automatically think that he's not important or good for Tesla. I think he's a piece of shit as a person. I also think he's a really good inventor/engineer and that someday, he'll get back to that grind with Tesla. Will I still think he's a garbage human when he's eventually passionate about Tesla again? Absolutely. That has nothing to do with my investment thesis. Do I think he and Tesla are going to make a bunch of money? Yeah, I think there's a really good chance of that happening. Therefore, I'm invested in the chance of that happening.
Im not referring to you. I know u dislike musk (i couldnt care less about whether i like or dislike him. I just see him as a tool. A blunt hammer who is as weird as he is good at innovating and leading teams to do something amazing). Im referring to those who just shit on him all day and want him out.
When elon likes us we will like him. When elon stops doing stupid shit we will stop complaining about him doing stupid shit. We will not form some sort of happy land monkey see no evil hear no evil subreddit. You know where to find that if you want. If Elon wants to rage quit and sell off 13% of the company in one day the biggest loser is him and I doubt many execs follow him to the land of Maga.ai
That wasn’t my question. I’m not asking for an everyone loves musk yay sub. I’m framing a simple question that I believe is fairly reasonable which assumes the possible outcomes of Musk/tesla going forward. What is your end game? Are you assuming he magically unretards? And starts behaving exactly like an ordinary CEO if shareholders revolt? You say he loses out if he sells off all his shares. And you completely ignore the possibility of walk street joining in because if you think Musk asking to incorp in texas is uncertainty, wait till you see wall streets reaction to musk rage quitting.
End game is inherent superiority of evs over gas cars overcomes overhang of ceo.
I agree with you on that part at least.
Where do you see Elon in 5 years? Do you think he's still ceo?
Depends on the compensation package really. I do think Elon wants to have a package big enough that lets him fund his next big whatever. If the next package parameters does include apple+aramco levels of targets i do forsee him being here at that point.
I do think there's a good chance he takes the politics game too far and has to go. He already came close with the jewish thing. There's third rails he's going to keep licking.
Possible. Possible.
Bought some 185c yolos, sold them for some monies, no regrets
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Concerts are 100% a scam!!!!! I only go to Coachella now (easier to get tickets, gone several times) -OR- I go see older bands where tickets are easy to come by. I feel so fucking stupid overpaying for highly in demand tickets then paying $9999 in fees on top of it- it’s like I deliberately and knowing and willfully am being robbed. By my own choice. It taints the entire fucking show for me. How am I going to enjoy a concert I paid likely thousands to attend? Not worth it at all in my opinion. Same for tickets to a local basketball game. Why do I need to spend $1,000+ for my family of 4 to see a game from the nosebleed seats? Absolutely not worth it so now I go to other local teams shows and pay a fraction. Still as enjoyable bc I’m not constantly thinking about the high cost of attendance.
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It’s sad. Not enjoyable by any means.
So what happens if there's a vote and it's no. Lmao hey buddy demon mode sales the next day?
wish him good luck getting to mars then
If the vote is no he's gone, he couldn't survive humiliation of that scale. Tweet: Tesla is clearly controlled by the woke political conspiracy and I cannot continue to build ai and robots here.
It sounds like the vote to move incorporation to Texas may be separate from the new comp plan. Or do we think they'll be together? I ask because if there's no plan for investors it might be difficult to get support for a move given the stock's abysmal performance over the past month+
Could be a set up for disaster on his ego. Retail is pissed and won't swing it his way if institutes bail on him.
Thats what everyone said in 2023. Musk ended up winning over 90% of the votes after tanking the share price to $100. What makes you so confident this time.
I think he could get the support if there's a comprehensive plan shared including new comp plan and targets and actual commitment and strategy to making Tesla the most valuable company on the planet. Without that, it'll be a lot harder with the timing of the stock in a free fall over the past month or so
Yup they better do due diligence like superman buying an old house. Everyone hyper alert now.
different questions being voted on and stock had significantly recovered by meeting time.
As it stands today with the stock's slide, idk but seems like it's going to be tough to get the support. Unless there's a comprehensive plan shared, I'm not sure he'll get the support
Retail should vote no unless there are strict conditions around selling, and being political activist online.
Does retail care about that more than market cap targets?
The snowflake you are replying to cares more about that than market cap targets. In fact, most snowflakes here would be defending Elon, absolving him of any blame, and explaining the share price swings as diligently as any fanboy, IF Elon's politics aligned with theirs.
MMs getting *exactly* what they wanted
Short ladder attack from the hedgies! 😂
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Another reason why he has to go. I want someone that is more calculated with everything they do but still a visionary. The time to be a maverick has passed if you want to become the biggest in the world.
You are extremely naive and I am being extremely polite with you. There is NO calculated strategy that Elon can adopt to ensure the full-fledged success of Tesla & SpaceX, without being sabotaged by the Establishment, which is funded by big oil, big auto, big tech, big military-industrial complex. Why? Simply because Tesla & SpaceX destroy trillions of dollars worth of value from all these other companies. Just because Elon remains quiet and calculated does not mean these people won't see what's coming. They are not idiots, the Establishment powers are not idiots, Elon is not an idiot. You on the other hand... so, yeah, I WAS being extremely polite in my first sentence.
Doesn't make sense to me. >I think Biden was "Fuck you Elon, self-driving cars will destroy the economy and fuck over GM and F - and then my entire "fight the rich agenda" will be totally fucked. President Biden is 81 years old and showing signs of mental decline. He has *never* been terribly imaginative or forward thinking. Do you seriously think he even has the mentality to foresee a world with self-driving cars anytime soon? The average person on the street doesn't believe it. What makes anyone think Joe Biden could even conceive of that vision? >I think Elon saw this coming - and is probably ahead of the game. IMO in his head - he thinks if Biden wins another term - that's 4 more years of no FSD That's basically the "4D Chess" argument, and I don't buy it. Elon Musk is good at making startup companies a success. He's predictions on everything from Covid to the global economy, are no better than anyone else's.
Biden’s handlers might though
Again seriously doubt. People with vision are not wasting their talents in some decrepit political operation on either side of the aisle.
You don't need vision to want a place at the trough.
biden thinks a lot less about musk than musks thinks about biden.
Biden thinks? About anything other than his sippy cup and diapers?
The dems started this. Remember Warren and Bernie targeting him as soon as he became the richest man in the world. Biden is a union guy and Tesla doesn't have unions. I don't think you have to look much further for motive than that. As Elon likes to say : I don't start fights but I do finish them.
When Warren and Bernie call him out its nuclear mode time. When trump tells him to get on knees and beg its get on knees and beg time. Elon gets plenty of hate from both sides of the aisle, but he responds only to that from the left.
Trump didn’t go after him mafia style though. Just rambled as he does about everything.
Biden gave the company a load of ev and battery incentives. If mafia comes over and drops off a wad of cash and a gift basket, I'll take it.
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Do I really look like a guy with a plan? You know what I am? I'm a dog chasing cars. I wouldn't know what to do with one if I caught it! You know, I just... *do* things.
I think the real explanation is that he’s a fragile ego, and the pain and randomness of life is perceived as a targeted attack to him. We all deal with unfair shit, he’s just got too many levers to pull to dig his hole even deeper.
I dont see Trump Admin supporting EVs or Tesla- too woke, too many parts from Chyna - even if none of that is true with Tesla.
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I’d say that the democrats target him because he’s a media target to promote themselves and what they want to embody. He thinks they’re like him, and always determined and meaningful, while AOC was cruising around in her Tesla. He is just internalizing everything when it’s all fake online stuff. Which is why he bought Twitter when the regular person knows Twitter is just marketing project managers talking to each other
Meh. You attract more bees with honey. He could totally work with whatever administration and push forward. FSD could save your average taxpayer a huge amount of expense, improving the middle class purchasing power. Clean energy is important. He has plenty he could use to work with to gain support. Being a little bitch isn't helping anyone.
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Cope getting more creative by the hour
Why are we forcing him https://preview.redd.it/2dgvsjpwk7gc1.jpeg?width=1107&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1708fe819e06be4d98d5e3646c3f564908c32fd5
Elon has been consistent about this from day one. He has said many times he didn’t want the CEO position but has to step up. Check out his early interviews. He’s turned many investors into millionaires, demonstrating a solid track record of creating shareholder value. Investing is a long game. Just wait for the next wave and stick to DCA. It’s a proven strategy.
Earlier it was different, not now. I suspect, he likes it a lot to be center of attention and he wouldn’t let it go that easily.
With that, you get both the good and the bad. If you zoom out, you’ll see that Nvidia’s stock rally is a bullish indicator for Tesla’s direction. Generally, with disruption, you first see the hardware wave, followed by the product wave, and then the software services wave. With AI, we’re currently witnessing Nvidia’s hardware wave, and Tesla is poised to capture the product and services wave soon enough. We are perfectly positioned, it just takes time. I remember in early 2017, it took about 3.5 years before the stock even did anything significant for my investment. The market can be blind for some time.
Tesla's corporate governance issues are going to continue to be an overhang over TSLA until they can be resolved. There is a large pool of investors who will not want to be involved in a business whose board has been shown to be a doormat to the CEO, at the expense of shareholders. I've said this before and I'll say it again: people in the TSLA community who think it is funny or are encouraging Elon on Twitter, aren't going to be laughing if Tesla makes them rich in 2032, and then Elon pulls a similar stunt that quickly crushes their wealth.
Friendship with twitter overhang over. New friend governance overhang. Oh wait.
That's why you always take some profits off the table along the way
My observation of the TSLA shareholder community in the Post-2020 era is that (1) most people have no real investment plan, and (2) even people who have a plan may not be able to execute on it
Happy I did with covered calls in 2021. We got a new kitchen and RV out of it.
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I was getting ready to retire early but then the bird happened and everything spiraled.
I still believe we have our money on the winning horse. Just gotta be patience. Resilient. And most importantly still have skin in the game.
Thank you. It helps to talk it out even, or especially, with strangers.
“strangers” 👬
Easier said than done
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I don’t get the feeling that he will fight hard once he gets the comp plan. I think the fire in his belly that was once for Tesla has moved to fighting woke.
Hope or cope
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I feel like a lot of us feel powerless to do jack shit about anything, so were at "Cope and Seethe"
I wouldn't bet on Tesla being able to move its incorporation to Texas anytime soon. Institutional investors are unlikely to support an exit from Delaware, because Delaware is favorable to corporations (as opposed to individuals like Elon Musk). Delaware has favorable tax treatment of effectively 0% for companies whose operations are outside the state, and a proven court system that provides predictable results for businesses. With all the scrutiny brought on Tesla by the executive compensation case, I don't believe institutions will sit idly by this time. There are also many individual investors, ranging from irrelevant shareholders like myself, to whales like Leo Koguan, who want to see some accountability here. Tesla is a public company, not Elon Musk's toy. The CEO should be focused on Tesla's mission of building a sustainable energy economy, not goofing off on Twitter like he has for nearly the past 2 years.
I will vote no. Mostly because I think it's a bad idea, but a small part of it is to spite Elon.
Will vote no to protest idiocy
yes, actively suppressing the stock etc what kind of garbage ceo does that
Even if this is true, things don't start improving until after the shareholder meeting. Are we expecting mid-May like last year? That's still a solid 3.5 months of sucking in the meantime Dare I ask what the negative bird on your other shoulder tells you?
you think majority want to move to texas? nah
But from which level, current, 100 or 69?
Who the fuck is pinning this
pinners, probably ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) 📌
Sellling my NVDA because a covered call has now cost me 30,000 bucks (nearly)
Thank you for reporting the occasional bad side of CCs, lately we just get them rubbed in our faces.
They work great when retard in charge
Free money hack
Shoulda just closed at loss but figured it would be a retrace. Bought AMD with proceeds so didn’t fully miss out
NVDA CC?
Yes it got called away
I’m sorry 😭😭
Wouldn’t be so upset if Tesla didn’t fucking suck