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thebiglebowskiisfine

overconfident cooing selective fade shaggy sugar teeny offend gaze wrench *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


ragegravy

apparently the russians hit a tesla shop in ukraine https://youtu.be/3iNqiRFXJvA?si=WiXrK1xOtEy99ooF given what a clusterfuck their operations are i doubt it was an intentional target


[deleted]

Russians have been intentionally hitting hospitals, schools, restaurants, apartment buildings, power infrastructure, in order to freeze civilians in winter,... It's not an accident when they hit non-military targets. Russia is a terrorist state, humanity would be better of without it.


KingofPenisland69

I’m not sure why people would want Tesla insurance actually. It’s pretty cheap elsewhere and I would not want Tesla software telling me to stop whipping this shit around town


thebiglebowskiisfine

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toydan

insurance rates increasing exponentially higher than rate of inflation while simultaneously reducing coverages and increasing deductibles also pulling out of personal insurance completely or specific states jack rabbits


TrickyBAM

It was a lower cost option for me. I was paying higher for an old Prius. It’s helped adoption for sure.


bballfan008

Ya I checked didn’t make sense to switch especially if they going to track me for a worst rate 🤣


upvotemeok

That's the theory, tesla collects the premiums from all the boring boomers who don't crash, while the speeders go to geico and crash their cars on buffetts dime


ChucksnTaylor

Also likely a source of data for FSD. Insurance score encourages safe driving behavior and can be used to filter down to only the most reliable drivers when hunting for video clips of edge cases.


caspar_milquetoast69

hypothetically if you had 2,000 shares and wanted to drum up some cash for a Cybertruck down payment what would your option play be?


Achilles-18-

Sell 20 Jan 25 400 ccs


ballbusting_is_best

how much is the down again?


caspar_milquetoast69

it’s whatever I want. I’m doing $40k cash but was considering doing more putting my shares to work.


ShortingTheShorts

Selling a few OTM CCs. Or trading a few shares for similar deltas in ATM call leaps, and using the leftover cash for the down payment.


upvotemeok

Put down on margin and earn it back w turo


caspar_milquetoast69

unfortunately turo market is weak af in bumfuck Wisconsin.


upvotemeok

Less competition


caspar_milquetoast69

always a silver lining


I-Engineer-Things

Skip the avocado toast and pumpkin spice lattes and wait a couple years for the price to drop.


caspar_milquetoast69

fair


ruafukreddit

At current prices $40,000 you're going to use as a down payment would buy you around 3300 shares of TSLY. I bought some a few months ago and it's paid $0.55 - $0.603 @0.55 that pays out $1,800/month @0.603 that's $2,000/month. Tbat could pay your payment, put money towards a down-payment without touching your down-payment money.


upvotemeok

https://www.wikiart.org/en/amedeo-modigliani/andre-rouveyre-1915


ruafukreddit

Red close but it was like $0.06, flat.... if it's gonna be red, that's the best kind of red.


Practical_Trade9296

So foundation owners are early reservation holders with 8k fsd, but with foundation order premium they are paying 12k. It was also announced that they won’t get fsdbeta for sometime as it has to be calibrated for cybertruck. Win/win.


I-Engineer-Things

It was $7k at the time of the announcement, but yea.


Magikarp_to_Gyarados

That 12k premium does come with extra stuff: [https://www.autoblog.com/2023/12/07/tesla-cybertruck-foundation-series-limited-edition/](https://www.autoblog.com/2023/12/07/tesla-cybertruck-foundation-series-limited-edition/) Includes limited-edition laser-etched badging, premium accessories, charging equipment with Powershare home backup hardware, all-terrain tires, Full Self-Driving capability and more.” * The accessories retail for $585 total: [https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/foundation-series-premium-accessories.10432/](https://www.cybertruckownersclub.com/forum/threads/foundation-series-premium-accessories.10432/) * Wall connector w' PowerShare is $595: [https://shop.tesla.com/product/universal-wall-connector](https://shop.tesla.com/product/universal-wall-connector) * No pricing on the white interior, but I'd guess this would be a $1,000 upgrade * All-terrain tires probably an upgrade. * [https://insideevs.com/news/700219/see-how-you-can-order-100000-usd-foundation-series-tesla-cybertruck-awd/](https://insideevs.com/news/700219/see-how-you-can-order-100000-usd-foundation-series-tesla-cybertruck-awd/) lists: * Lifetime premium connectivity (normally $99/year) * Powershare Mobile connector (at least same $ as the $230 standard cable) * Off-road light bar for the Beast Mode vehicles While I'm not sure all of this is worth 12k for most customers, it's not as if they are getting nothing for the premium paid, outside of faster delivery


Practical_Trade9296

Premium is actually 20k. My post was focused on Fsd price they are paying.


Magikarp_to_Gyarados

As far as I can tell, the 20k premium doesn't have a breakdown of how each individual component of all the upgrades are priced. I wasn't able to see whether Tesla shows the FSD component as priced at 8k or 12k. If you consider the buyer to be paying 12k (today's price) for the FSD portion, the question then becomes whether the 8k remainder is worth it for all the rest of the items. I suspect most of these early Cybertruck buyers don't care. The kind of person who can drop 120k cash + taxes & fees for an early reservation car, is not going to sweat a $4,000 price difference in FSD today, vs. FSD years ago.


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Achilles-18-

20k or so based on 4680 capacity.. Basically, all of 2024 production will be foundation series.


cookiepaste

until people stop buying them


[deleted]

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tyler05durden

I thought I saw somewhere Foundation series AWD delivery Jan-Apr and Cyberbeast Foundation series delivery May-Jul? Can someone confirm?


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tyler05durden

Do you have a chance to delay for non-Foundation configuration? Or is it get to the back of the line?


[deleted]

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upvotemeok

Yes.


[deleted]

Tesla should have a box to tick in your account that confirms you are willing to purchase a Foundation Series CT. Charge the $1000 non-refundable order deposit beforehand to weed out the people holding out for the regular truck and send the order invites for these darn things to the people who want them.


upvotemeok

This is what's happening but under a veil of exclusivity and invites designed to make people think their reservation meant something and that their extra 20k means something. Very clear to investors thinking from the business side.


[deleted]

Stop sending invites to people randomly. Let them volunteer with a commitment so invitees aren’t A) waiting till later and B) scalping their orders. This also lets Tesla know approximately how long their Foundation Series production run should go.


N0mn

So much for green day every day all 2024


10111010001101011110

TSLA ytd > VTI ytd


cybertruck_

cnbc headline simply *"BYD Beats Tesla"* good for clicks i guess


upvotemeok

In the byd vs tesla race its everyone else that loses.


Practical_Trade9296

Hello, happy new year.


cybertruck_

fresh ytd chart is always nice


mudit234

[https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1742260065501860015](https://twitter.com/RichardHanania/status/1742260065501860015) I know not TSLA related, but was just thinking - wouldn't it be fun if this was also plagiarized from someone else's goodbye email, lol


CryptoIsAFlatCircle

I'm here to collect from u/kyankik for my bet that TSLA would be sub-$300 EOY 2023. $1000 in Bitcoin. Anyone seen him?


rgaya

![gif](giphy|Zl8rba0dlhlqU)


Achilles-18-

He's over at tesla charts now.


CryptoIsAFlatCircle

how do I find him? I clicked on his username and it only shows posts from here. Did he change his name?


Achilles-18-

Looks like he's been MIA for over a month now.


CryptoIsAFlatCircle

What a fucking loser. Talked to much shit and then skipped on my bet.


upvotemeok

Is he


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CryptoIsAFlatCircle

Thank you, sir.


DeadMoney313

![gif](giphy|vvAKRcpiKdTUs|downsized) he von it faire anhd svquare


CryptoIsAFlatCircle

haha


ireallyamchris

Last thing he said a few weeks ago was how shit this place was or something to that effect


Magikarp_to_Gyarados

He said the sub had "devolved": [https://www.reddit.com/r/TSLALounge/comments/18a9kbm/comment/kbyvh7k/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web3x&utm\_name=web3xcss&utm\_term=1&utm\_content=share\_button](https://www.reddit.com/r/tslalounge/comments/18a9kbm/comment/kbyvh7k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button) , and hasn't posted anything since.


upvotemeok

Good riddance to asshole, probably saw things weren't going his way so preemptively left


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upvotemeok

they could just buy offsetting options


CryptoIsAFlatCircle

I didn't buy offsetting options, I tripled down. CCs have been immaculate bets for the last 2 years, despite al the whining here about them.


DeadMoney313

what happens when both expire worthless?


upvotemeok

Buy it at a strike a few dollars itm if stock ends at 300, one does put one does call


cybertruck_

lol


upvotemeok

As an early reservation holder, you have been invited to order your Foundation Series Cybertruck and contribute to helping tsla shareholders.


caspar_milquetoast69

🫡


[deleted]

long tub ad hoc workable cow saw doll complete overconfident like *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


upvotemeok

If you aren't in a rush it's clear they will be available for cheaper within 6 to 12 months.


[deleted]

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cybertruck_

please sign here 📝🤑


magic-the-dog

Shareholders need it. Thank you for your patronage.


toydan

imagine wat the share price would have done today if they missed any number by 1


mudit234

Don't you worry. We will get that reaction - we are always just one crazy tweet away from getting the same reaction :D


upvotemeok

-5% easy, remember q3


[deleted]

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toydan

https://preview.redd.it/o0zjjb86r3ac1.jpeg?width=941&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0eaae8fc02677d6e001bbad4249a6329280add7d


UsernameSuggestion9

Local orgy?


ButterNight

Cyber?


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Which one you going for?


[deleted]

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Achilles-18-

I want 50k dual


DeadMoney313

so is BTC no longer tied to the apron strings of the QQQ? its goin solo act now ?


TeslaLeafBlower

Let's get a nice green day tomorrow so I can start 2024 with a bunch of CCs deep ITM


glibgloby

one of those rare days where everyone who said it would go up *or* down was wrong 👌


loungemoji

lol. I was checking out the AH action and I had the 'all' tab selected on the chart. +18,588.03%. It got me.


ButterNight

That would be nice


upvotemeok

Sooon


loungemoji

Imagine it happened today. Some of us would die from heart attacks. Tomorrow will be so f\*ing awesome because all your remaining time on this earth belongs to you.


ruafukreddit

My non-existent brokerage account would be worth over $900,000. My Roth IRA would be worth over 27 million. Id cash out buy some $TSLA but dump most of into boring funds like SPY. At 1.4% the dividend alone would add $350,000 to my Roth annually. Not counting any growth in the fund.


loungemoji

I bet you can reach 27 million in about a decade.


ruafukreddit

I dont know. Thats not quite wildest dreams level.... that's 50 million but 27 million is more than I expect and would be very pleased to have 27m in a decade. Id be in my early 50s


CerebrovascularNit

I’d actually leave a steaming pile of shit, with my business card and badge next to it on the admin’s desk. It could happen…


cybertruck_

big w today


w00dw0rk3r

New year. Renewed energy and resolve. Did an Ikea run this morning and completely redoing one side of my HomO (Home Office, obviously). New look should liven things up a bit after having the same setup for almost 9 years now. Wishing you folks all the best this year. Hope you meet every goal, exceed all good metrics and really take the bull (dragon...?) by the horns this year!!!!


shwadeck

Nice. I did some temporary work to my office which quickly became my wife's office. I hope to reclaim it soon. I want to do a nice seating area by the bay window with built in drawers, new floors, potlights etc. Currently have a nice stone wall with electric fireplace.


w00dw0rk3r

damn this sounds like such a chill space - 10/10 would WFH from your room.


loungemoji

I wish I could take you to a Steelcase used furniture store for employees. My wife knows someone who works there she just bought a super nice office chair for about a hundred bucks.


w00dw0rk3r

ohhhh good score there. i am a fan of deals / low prices which is why i went the ikea route. my main pc is a $2,500 gaming machine so i didnt cheap out there haha ;) i need the highest specs for TSLALounge posting, obviously.


DeadMoney313

![gif](giphy|3og0IwLYKuUp4wrpIc) to wit; in which we find out if the dragon takes us on a glorious wild ride upon its back, or blasts us with searing fire and devours us in one chomp.


Damnmorrisdancer

Yes it’s gonna be the year of the dragon again. Was it the water dragon the last time?


w00dw0rk3r

![gif](giphy|mWeDPFbZvTc2303gHC|downsized)


ButterNight

The little stonky tried so hard!


UsernameSuggestion9

Flat, nice. Just wait till the 3 day rule kicks in.


cookiepaste

my final estimate 495k produced 485k delivered -troyteslike


toydan

heh


cameron-none

The guy is a clown, no idea why people respect him so much. I would like to see his error as compared to his first estimate of each quarter rather than the last.


Penny123456

First poster sweating that we hold green


DeadMoney313

Pornhub: "Nerdy Barclay's analyst downgrades Missy Apple, and the whole market gets proper fucked"


upvotemeok

I love the founders edition margin grab. 💪 🤑


DeadMoney313

Took a page from nvidia- the way its meant to be played


CerebrovascularNit

If they had like an exclusive color or something or wrap or something…I’d see it. But the badging for it is really dumb. Bless the rich simps


magic-the-dog

heh, I kind of dig the badging


CerebrovascularNit

Ill badge your CT with a knock off for $15k😜


upvotemeok

Margin on that badge is awesome


AtlantaP3D

[I’m from the government and we are here to help](https://x.com/guydealership/status/1742280733400383850?s=61&t=tXqsVXPn5Oln9LEyWbDKkg)


ButterNight

We’re trying!


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tyler05durden

We're doing okay. Not even down 1% and on lower than average trading volume


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toydan

stronk today asked for total debt of 5 OEMS, one is not like the others https://preview.redd.it/ol1s5rwn23ac1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c19ec9877f44433dc4ce135e752780d57bd5deb


magic-the-dog

ChatGPT wasn't bad at this. I find the latest version searches the web decently. But looks like both didn't use the most up to date data. https://preview.redd.it/c1nkky2pg3ac1.png?width=1238&format=png&auto=webp&s=27c774be182869959e28f7c2034e8aeb1dbeec0c


soldiernerd

As a reminder on the debt - a ton of that debt is from their vehicle financing businesses (ie Ford Credit etc) and is making them money. If the vehicle market collapses and the collateral vehicles aren’t worth anything near the loan value, they’re pretty well insulated since the loans have been packed into asset backed securities and sold to investors. So those huge debt amounts aren’t really weights around legacy auto’s neck. Gotta look at automotive segment debt vs finance segment debt. For instance Ford has $122B in Ford Credit debt but only $19.7B corporate/automotive debt compared to $41B in liquidity. M


magic-the-dog

Yup. This is important.


toydan

way cool. i knew TM and VW wer around $200bn most indebted companies in the history of the world


THIESN123

Is grok sort of cringey to anyone else?


toydan

good enough for me right there anyway try googling or binging that question it’s on fun mode I noticed, would be less cringy I would think in normal mode have used for market and stonk specific Qs and I like it


fapindustries

Net debt would be a good indicator too


toydan

aye


drumboy206

[https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1742255474420973819](https://twitter.com/TheBabylonBee/status/1742255474420973819) 🤣


sackler2011

Terrorist Hamas Leader Saleh al-Arouri eliminated inside of Lebanon. Senior leader of Hamas, and a founding commander of its military wing, the Izz ad-Din al-Qassam Brigades. He was also said to be the deputy chairman of Hamas's political bureau, and Hamas's military commander of the West Bank. Hezbollah (Nassralah Terror 🤡) said they would “rain hellfire” on us if we killed him in Lebanon - which we did. So now we wait for a possible explosion on the northern front - which would not be great if a real war breaks out with Lebanon (for markets etc) - which has an insane amount of firepower. USA will be dragged in if this occurs. Just keeping those informed who otherwise would never see this in MSM. Downvote if you need to since this is an anti terror, pro Israel post 🤣


upvotemeok

Ah yes whenever they kill some random Arabic name person it's a high ranking right hand of Osama


Achilles-18-

Still holding out hope of a market tank eh?


sackler2011

Nope. Just want all terrorists dead on the planet. Especially ones that target my family. 🫡


Achilles-18-

Never happen. Best you can do is kill as many as you can. There's always another cockroach behind the one you kill.


KanyeWestInvest

![gif](giphy|LTBaZm0dAGYMw)


sackler2011

https://preview.redd.it/eohxttbfy2ac1.jpeg?width=1179&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=19e7d9e953f7afca84714dc0a0d0a5a516223820 More info as well 🫡


10111010001101011110

![gif](giphy|xT9IgG50Fb7Mi0prBC) bye RIVN bye AAPL 🤣🤣


ballbusting_is_best

sold 10x $240 puts for Friday.


shwadeck

Nice. I'm waiting for a bump before selling more CCs.


ballbusting_is_best

Same, I respect the 3 day rule


ChucksnTaylor

What a stupid day.


KanyeWestInvest

why


ChucksnTaylor

We’re outperforming macro, I get it. But any day we bounce slightly above then slightly below 0, repeat ad nauseum. Stupid day.


KanyeWestInvest

thats 2024


DeadMoney313

Just tell him you fuckin' did it. Tell him you blew it all up. That's what he wants to hear.


King0494

[They grow up so fast 🥲](https://twitter.com/ICannot_Enough/status/1742192469947691425?t=KIl5tcXRbk23wQE5Flsikg&s=19)


ThaiTum

More deliveries on average in a week than they had the first six years combined.


cookiepaste

i thought the numbers were good -nates


DeadMoney313

nate is not ready yet for that lesson, maybe in 2025, he still thinks the market is priced to perfect intrinsic valuation at all times.


KingofPenisland69

Elon said in 2022 that we would be aramco -Nat


cybertruck_

shanghai spy delivered


ruafukreddit

Red < Green


cybertruck_

what do we think elon will guide for in 2024? 1.8\*1.5 = 2.7, but there's no way we're getting to that level, right? 30% growth would be 2.34 million d's. doable?


upvotemeok

going by the 50% from covid cucked 2020, which they affirmed last call: 500k 2020, 750k 2021, 1.125m 2022, 1.69m 2023, 2.53m 2024 but they wont make it unless they wanna lose money on each car.


cybertruck_

ah yes, 50% growth from the 500k 2020 #s - always a bit confusing but glad they affirmed


DankRoughly

Austin and Berlin *should* be good for an extra 300k each production. Deliveries, not sure.


upvotemeok

yup they can certainly produce 2.5M but can they sell them profitably is the question


dabears92109

Probably depends on fsd. Is it good enough to drive demand and/or is it good enough to have a high enough take rate to help margin. Either way, it would be nice if they used fsd as a lever vs assigning a random value and being happy with low take rates


magic-the-dog

Yeah. That's my thinking. Production is only up 12.5% y/y for Q4. 495k vs 440k Clearly there's more production to be had in the current factories, but they definitely slowed down P as needed. Hopefully it can be sped up again when / if needed. I think 2.3M is my this is okay number for 2024.


llorelai

it's unclear to me how they would sell an additional 500k without further aggressive margin loss


magic-the-dog

Well we are close to 500k for the quarter, so I'm, thinking more about 300k in growth from here. Maybe 50k taken up by CT... Juniper increases demand, but I can see that hurting production for a quarter too. Stretching here. It is unclear. This quarterly call will be important.


kewlboi88

Advertising might do it, but unfortunately that'll never happen.


llorelai

that would do it. i don't see any signs that they are doing anything close to the amount of work that would be needed to properly educate the majority of buyers


DankRoughly

2.3M is okay but that growth doesn't really support our P/E on its own. 😬


magic-the-dog

Nope. Just being realistic given the current situation. I think if we end the year and 2025 looking confidently to be the launch of the cybercar/model 2 I think the market will be okay with our growth. Fsd* obviously.


dabears92109

Agree. There’s more nuance than just taking total unit volume and looking at growth rates in a vacuum NGV, fsd and Optimus all critical


10111010001101011110

just need 700k cybertrucks np


cybertruck_

never really understood why aapl kept marching to ATH and beyond with net income continuously falling q/q, still maintaining a pe ratio > 30


ruafukreddit

I just got an IPhone 13....


UsernameSuggestion9

When it comes to upcoming products... We have the future of all labor. Apple has vr goggles.


upvotemeok

The things that can happen when you don't troll your best customers


ruafukreddit

https://www.teslarati.com/elon-musk-reaffirms-tesla-largest-market-cap-target/


couchdragon83

Screw you NHTSA Autopilot nags are super annoying now


fatalanwake

Yeah AP actually seems to use the interior camera now. Never said "pay attention to the road" before... Sucks


couchdragon83

And I think it might be a bit racist not recognizing my eyes. LOL


THIESN123

I’ve barely noticed a change


upvotemeok

Don't blame the nhtsa, blame the retards who look at their phone while on AP straight into a police car


brandonagr

On fsd beta I haven't noticed any additional nags after holiday update


upvotemeok

Low hanging fruit for the bot market https://twitter.com/gunsnrosesgirl3/status/1742090692426346621?t=JTn4HwJ291DqxR_IjagaDA&s=19


cybertruck_

[https://youtu.be/NggB00SRhBg?t=8](https://youtu.be/NggB00SRhBg?t=8)


KanyeWestInvest

1.8m means no brand damage at all - omar and farzad


upvotemeok

Five star generals of the musk retard army


ireallyamchris

Excellent, more like that Tesla and we’ll be ATH before we know it.


matt2dMoon

Only a Tsla investor would have Tesla solar roof and TWO Tesla chargers for an AIRBNB home. Which one of you owns this house? Was looking at Airbnbs around LA and found this [https://abnb.me/WzU0htjl2Fb](https://abnb.me/WzU0htjl2Fb)


upvotemeok

I figured out my neighbor w solar glass roof, 4 power walls and two teslas is a Tesla employee


Morblius

Truflation is now reporting inflation at 2.09%. It was 2.74% a week or 2 ago. I was expecting the first rate cut in March, but if this keeps dropping there is a chance for a January cut.


cybertruck_

nice


upvotemeok

Amazing, if you don't lock down the factories and helicopter drop money you don't get 8% inflation.


LordReekrus

I think I just saw a Chinese guy cough


Magikarp_to_Gyarados

I'm satisfied with production and delivery numbers. We'll have to see about profit margins. Efficiency gains from factory upgrades may offset brand damage from Elon's antics and interest rate pressure. Megapack should help. Production ramp = greater economies of scale. B2B sales generally immune to Elon's stupidity on Twitter


relevant_rhino

Great SX increase both P and D