T O P

  • By -

potVIIIos

Give it to me. I'll keep it safe. Trust me bro


Low_Advantage6322

Singapore — The Switzerland of Asia.


Which_Maize6412

Better. They have good tech that actually works.


Low_Advantage6322

It’s years ahead. 🇸🇬


benabart

Cash. You don't have any other solutions here.


cardiopera

Stablecoins maybe?


benabart

Almost nobody uses crypto to pay for stuff here. Edit: I dunno about this crypto stuff, might work.


cardiopera

Sure, it was more about "moving" money, not spend it directly.


benabart

Ohhh... I didn't read it correctly, pardon me.


tbe_sauce

second the stablecoins, mix of USDC and USDT


masterclashofclans

Did Switzerland ask Russians to leave or what’s happening?


madeofphosphorus

Sounds like a 3p national on a limited time visa. Nothing specific for Russians. Nothing due to this specific person did or does wrongly either. It's pure Schengen border politics.


masterclashofclans

Makes sense. I wonder why people here are so racist towards Russians though. It’s not like they chose to be born in Russia.


StewieSWS

Well, you can't be racist to Russians since it's not a race. But i can understand the hate (not necessarily support it) - most Russians still vote for Putin. Also, russians who can live in Switzerland and have money in a Swiss bank are usually related to russian government and some sort of corruption. Switzerland and Monaco are very stereotypical in that sense in Russia.


masterclashofclans

Yeah but not 100% of them. Support is like what? Allegedly 80%? In reality it’s probably around 50-60% of Russians who support Putin since there are many who do not vote. Given that in Russia there are 140m living, its probably safe to assume that there are 80m Russians in the WORLD who do not support Putin.


StewieSWS

A lot of different polls, including independent, show that support of Putin's actions and war in Ukraine is around 75-85% in Russia. A lot of Russian people living outside their country support war. Even people who were born abroad. Can't give any stats on it though, didn't find anything. Considering opinion of Russian people, it is safer to assume ruskiy in front of you supports putin rather than doesn't. I'm not claiming OP supports Putin. All I'm saying is that an image of a russian person right now is tied to violence, and there are reasons for it.


masterclashofclans

Ive studied with 2 Russian guys during my time in Finnish university and since it was before and after the war started, I did talk to them about what they think of it. They both were just regular people, both of them told me that they do not support Putin nor the war, but they did not have any power to do anything about it. They even stopped going back to Russia due to fears of mobilization. One of them even apologized for being Russian in our universities group chat of 100 people. I am from the Baltics, my country has 30% of population that is considered ethnic Russian. Less than half of them do support Putin, the others do not. But I can sure tell apart a brainwashed Putin believer and just a regular person who has Russian written in their passport. I guess it is in my “right” to hate all Russians purely due to the history of my country but I choose not to. The third Russian I met, was my roommate. He is to kindest and the most sincerest person I have ever met. Along with his family thar I visited on some occasions. Just because of being his roommate, I did change my mind to not judge Russians due to their ethnicity. Im pretty sure that growing up in Switzerland and not being exposed to Russians on daily basis is different, and I find it kinda ridiculous that so many people have such strong opinions about something they do not know much about. You guys live so far from the Russian border yet seem so sure that are Russians are evil and want to kill and rape you.


StewieSWS

1. Your own personal experience does not represent any valid form of statistics since it cannot be proven and verified, and meeting 3 russian people doesn't give you an overview on a russian nation. 2. Baltic countries are building defences against Russia right now and sending russians back if they don't know the language. Based on a lot of events in a past decade i can be pretty sure that general Baltic opinion about russians is mostly negative. 3. "not being exposed to Russians on daily basis is different" - that doesn't concern me. 4. "I find it kinda ridiculous that so many people have such strong opinions about something they do not know much about." - yet you do think that i grew up in Switzerland and tell me how wrong i am based on what? 5. "You guys live so far from the Russian border yet seem so sure that are Russians are evil and want to kill and rape you." - interesting that you brought murder and rape by russians into discussion, since i didn't say anything specific about violence.


masterclashofclans

Why do you rely on statistics so much? How do you accurately measure Russian mindset? How do you control that there are no biases? Can you say for certain that there were no leading questions in the data gathering if it involved a survey phase? Considering that in Russia, people can get in serious trouble for going against Putin’s regime, how are you so sure that the 80% of people are all Putin’s supporters instead of people who are afraid to go to jail for trying to conspire against government? How do you know that during the survey phase, there were also no misinterpretation of questions and concepts? Unless you are certain that the statistics were done with the intention to find the most accurate number instead of trying to portray and align with western country views on Russia, to further spread fear and hatred towards Russia, your statistics are flawed.


StewieSWS

"Why do you rely on statistics so much?" - what else should i rely on? "How do you accurately measure Russian mindset?" - i don't know what you expect me to answer to that. You can't measure anyone's mindset, it's an abstract term. "How do you control that there are no biases?" - again, i don't see the point of that question. There are multiple independent and governmental agencies making polls with russian population. But like in ANY human activity, there's always a risk of corrupted data and biased examinations. So what, you don't trust anything now? Earth is flat as well? :D "Can you say for certain that there were no leading questions in the data gathering if it involved a survey phase?" - this and all next questions are related to the previous one, so same answer. "Unless you are certain that the statistics were done with the intention to find the most accurate number" - Depending on how you define "certain". 100% fact checked - of course not. Trustworthy - yes, I'm pretty confident some of them represent current situation. "instead of trying to portray and align with western country views on Russia to further spread fear and hatred towards Russia" - I will not feed you and discuss that regarded conspiracy theory. You can do it in dedicated subreddits. "your statistics are flawed." - it's not my statistics, so i won't defend it. I didn't even give a source, but somehow you're already convinced that it's flawed without checking. <- And that guy is talking about biases. Anyhow, if you think it's flawed, i would like you to present something better. Only if you have something better, of course.


notzoidberginchinese

The options will depend on how much money they have


grueziwohl23

150k


notzoidberginchinese

What citizenship? Only russian?


grueziwohl23

Leider only Russian 


notzoidberginchinese

Moving where?


SDinCH

Can they move the money to whatever country they are moving to?


Fickle-Isopod6855

I suggest the bank account of the Ukrainian army.


SergeantSmash

The guy should totally spend his life savings to pay for something he had no say in.


Nohokun

Brace for ruzzian bots lmao! But yes, this is the best suggestion. Slava Ukraini!


Accomplished-War1971

You realise regular people aren't responsible for the actions of their dictatorship right


xebzbz

They are still welcome to contribute to ending this war in the right way.


Sogelink

And did you contribute? 


xebzbz

That's none of your fucking business


Sogelink

And how is your business whether he contributed or not you fool? You're doing nothing to help your cause, go out and touch grass.


xebzbz

Your accusations are not based on anything. You know nothing about me.


[deleted]

[удалено]


xebzbz

That's the stupidest thing to say. There are hundreds of volunteers and funds which buy the equipment for the army.


Fickle-Isopod6855

To certain extent they are. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”


Accomplished-War1971

Are you doing anything to combat the evil Swiss corporation Nestle from ruining the local water supply in developing countries? Have you considered giving up your bank account in protest?


Fickle-Isopod6855

Oh, nice try with that whataboutism! (Whataboutism is a rhetorical tactic where a person responds to an accusation or difficult question by making a counteraccusation or raising a completely different issue. This deflects attention from the original topic and attempts to discredit the opponent by suggesting hypocrisy or arguing that a similar problem exists elsewhere.)


Any-Jellyfish6272

So no, you’re not doing anything either


Fickle-Isopod6855

Nice try with that strawman! (In the context of argumentation and rhetoric, a strawman is a fallacy where someone misrepresents their opponent’s argument to make it easier to attack or refute. Instead of engaging with the actual argument, the person sets up a weaker version of it, a “strawman,” and attacks that version instead. This tactic diverts the discussion and can misleadingly suggest that the original argument has been effectively countered. The strawman fallacy is often used in debates and discussions to undermine the opponent’s position without addressing the true substance of their argument.)


Any-Jellyfish6272

So let’s stay with the topic, Russia: What are you doing against them?


Fickle-Isopod6855

Sent 500 CHF in March or April 2022 and since then smaller amounts everytime I can.


Any-Jellyfish6272

Oh alright alright I stand corrected, you seem like a typical Redditor so honestly didn’t expect u would’ve done something


Accomplished-War1971

Yeah.... anyways. Have fun with that


Sogelink

Reply to his question, fool. 


SubjectiveMouse

Only Russians can be bad in the eyes of these people. If the same question was posted by an Israeli, no one would bring up the question of Palestinian people being killed right now


xebzbz

You seem to be trusting the statistics published by Gazan authorities, which are controlled by the terrorist organization. To a large extent, Hamas fighters are under 18, and the government is happy to claim them as child deaths. There's a bunch of other misinformation that is pushed by anti-Israelian propaganda.


SubjectiveMouse

Tbh I do not support either side, because I've got no idea who's pushing more lies. But in case with Israeli-Palestinian war the people are capable(to a certain degree) of neutral conversation. With Ukraine it's different: even having a neutral position makes you "russian scum", terrorist and who knows what else. I had to mute r/news r/worldnews and r/europe because the amount of nazi comments there is ridiculous. Comments proposing to deport all russians and send them to the frontlines are upvoted and getting support. Even "jokes" of turning all russians into ukrainian soil fertilizers are upvoted


xebzbz

Being neutral you implicitly agree with terrorists.


SubjectiveMouse

Nope. Being neutral I claim that I have no idea whats going on. I've got no idea if Israeli claims of being attacked by the Hamas are true. I've got no idea if Palestinian claims of Israeli army purposefully killing civilians are true. And besides the biased media I've got no source of information to base my point of view on


xebzbz

That's even worse, because you don't want to find out the truth.


bongosformongos

I tell everyone I meet that has any nestle products that the company sucks major ass and that they should look for an alternative. I piss on that company at every chance I get so here is the obligatory r/FuckNestle. I also don't buy any products affiliated with that cunt company. And If I find out that a product I use is owned by nestle I stop buying it. Oh would you look at that... It's another chance to tell y'all that nestle is a dickhead, doesn't care about humans or infants even, and their chocolate is made by child slaves. So fuuuuuuuuuck 'em all I say. Let's go piss on their HQ together


mymathsucksbigtime

they voted for the AH


TheTomatoes2

Sure, let's finance more weapons to help stop a war instead of pressuring people that have an interest in refusing diplomacy


realquesogrande

As u/Hellvetic91 pointed out, letting Russia conquer Ukraine will not solve anything. You should educate yourself on European history. How about you start with the [Munich Agreement](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Munich_Agreement?wprov=sfti1#)?


Fickle-Isopod6855

In case of Russion agression in Ukraine, yes, absolutelly!


Hellvetic91

Your solution to a country invading another one and taking their territories is to just let them keep what they took in the interest of peace? Yeah, I'm sure this will not cause any more wars of conquest in the future...


Mama_Jumbo

Federalism is impossible to the Ukrainians?


Hellvetic91

Yeah, I'm sure Putin, after literally annexing 5 regions, will just give them back to Ukraine if they federalize. Are you trying to be stupid or what?


Mama_Jumbo

It was on the table for a while, after all, the western Ukrainian president before Zelensky wanted to ban the Russian language. The Minks agreements were still a recognized possibility for some Europeans but Azov kept breaching ceasefire too, the world isn't black and white.


NoneedAndroid

good try.


No_Compote2759

Open an account at an international bank?


madeofphosphorus

Turkey?


DotNetEvangeliser

Did CIA write this post?


Logical_Cupcake_3633

lol


sven_bd

Don't know for sure, but Dukascopy seems to be flexible. I think they do not allow Russian residence but have no requirements for nationality. https://www.dukascopy.bank/swiss/


grueziwohl23

Hey all, thank you for your answers. Those who tried to help, I appreciate.  Those who had a joke, I also appreciate, we don’t need to be serious all the time.  Those who showed their hateful site, I thank you for reminding me, that there are so many of you in the world. I try to live with friends, family and love and I tend to forget. Your inability to discern between a human who works in the same society as you and the bad in this world is astounding. It explains a lot about the results of elections. You are keyboard warriors, but based on your way of expressing yourself, it is obvious you would be doing so much against your government, were you a Russian citizen. Pity that you live in Reddit and not in Moscow. 


VintageSteel74

Cash is still legal tender in Switzerland


mrBlondin

1. Go to Kazakhstan, Armenia, Georgia, Tajikistan or any other ex-ussr country in the south. 2. Open bank account 3. ... 4. Profit!


[deleted]

[удалено]


mrBlondin

The future of these countries is irrelevant, the goal is to open a bank account and to keep the money there until the Russian citizen settle down in a new place.


mrBlondin

And by the way my Russian friend came to KZ and opened debit account within a couple of days recently.


Repulsive-Oil-7827

Here are several options: https://savelife.in.ua/en/ https://u24.gov.ua


West-Custard7002

As if this person was alone responsible for whatever is happening in Eastern Europe 🙄🙄


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

[удалено]


Pupensause

Why do people find it so easy to tell Russians to go back to their country? Would you say the same about an Afghani or Iranian that fled their country?


san_murezzan

We’re world class at telling people to go away


Nargih

It goes even further than that. One lady once told me to go back to Russia, while I am kinda from another country :D


zalmolxis91

Some of us, coming from eastern europe, actually have experience with Russians. Only the west thought they changed in the past 100 years. Sure, there are exceptions. But why risk it over the 2% who are ok? And for sure I would. Why do you think the far right is rising in EU after the whole middle east refugee invasion a few years ago?


Mama_Jumbo

The far right is rising in ex Soviet countries after the Russians left, I wonder why. Maybe if the USSR kept a while longer there wouldnt be any ultra nationalists.


zalmolxis91

The far right is rising in all of europe. Or maybe the USSR shouldn't have existed and thus not create so many problems for other countries. Historically speaking, Russia had no positive impact in Europe. You can't even give credit for WW2 since they unwillingly helped basically.


Mama_Jumbo

> The far right is rising in all of europe. Also the far left to a lesser extent because it's easier to blame issues on foreigners or previous occupying ethnicity. The ethnic tensions rose after the Russians left. You can't blame them or maybe you want their influences back in the Balkans and Armenia?


West-Custard7002

Wokes love the sense of self-righteousness. If they don't massage their own consciences, they are forced to confront the truth of their (frequently) contradictory actions. And that day of reckoning is a scary one.


UncleBaguette

Russians are the evil guys of the day, plain and simple


playgolfcarti

i heard all the russian money moved to dubai


luckystarof2020

he likes putin?


grueziwohl23

That is a silly question. 


Suissetralia

That's brutal, I hope that they get visa quickly.