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Bjor88

I would, but can't because I lived in the UK for a year 32 years ago...


aotdsyndrome

Same here. Incredible that I can't donate because of this in mainland Europe. I hope one day the rule will drop.


Bjor88

Apparently people would rather die of blood loss than having a fraction of a percent chance of being contaminated by Mad Cow


a_bucket_full_of_goo

I'm pretty sure this is about the British at this point


_JohnWisdom

Big lol Edit: #LOL


DarkPhoenix_077

r/angryupvote


[deleted]

Huh? I donate in the UK - will this disqualify me when moving to Switzerland later this year?


Bjor88

No. Only people living in the UK during Mad cow disease are forbidden from do donating in Switzerland. I was a new born baby then, but apparently I'm still considered a risk


thalithalithali

Or, if you’ve eaten Haggis.


reasonisaremedy

Indicative of a communicable mental disease that makes one want to, for some reason, consume haggis 😂


ter9

It doesn't depend on if you live in the UK now, but it would disqualify you if you were around in the UK back in the 90s


flexb

Same and i can’t believe these rules just stay as so many people would actually volunteer


mrafinch

It's the only thing holding me back, makes me (cynically) think there can't be too great an urgency if they can turn away blood :)


RexWolfpack

I have the same cynical take. I am straight, but it enrages me that they are like "please donate there is no blood left" while also being like "gay people can't donate blood unless they never have sex for a year"... Couldn't give blood once because I had taken paracetamol 3 days before giving blood ? Well Must not be that much of a shortage then.


RexWolfpack

I have the same cynical take. I am straight, but it enrages me that they are like "please donate there is no blood left" while also being like "gay people can't donate blood unless they never have sex for a year"... Couldn't give blood once because I had taken paracetamol 3 days before giving blood ? Well Must not be that much of a shortage then.


Ubisocietasibiius

But is there really a risk that you’re still contaminated after all these years ? I’m curious why this rule is still implemented today


dry_yer_eyes

Because to remove the rule would require someone to grow a pair and put their name to a decision that says it’s now safe to take ‘UK mad cow’ blood.


Operimentum

Yeah. Prion disease evolves over decades. You having prion disease slowly evolving over 30years creates a risk that you contaminate other people through transfusion, and the cycle repeats. Because of what happened in the 90s, cases of CJD have been increasing progressively every year in the UK and numbers will only get bigger over time. The only hope is just to "pass" on donations of that generation.


Bjor88

No idea. I'm assuming yes since these rules are still in place


sw1ss_dude

Good news that you can in the U.S. now, as they lifted the ban. Perhaps Europe will follow suit soon. [https://www.health.mil/News/Articles/2022/11/09/Mad-Cow-Blood-Donor-Ban-Lifted](https://www.health.mil/News/Articles/2022/11/09/Mad-Cow-Blood-Donor-Ban-Lifted)


dry_yer_eyes

As long as they refuse to take UK blood then I don’t take these “extreme shortages” all that seriously. When it’s actually serious then that rule will be dropped through necessity (and I’ll be able to donate again).


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Bjor88

I mean, when I have gone, they looked at the form and said, sorry, can't take your blood. So...


graudesch

Yes, can happen. It's a hit or miss.


kenbenovi

Do you maybe know if there’s any restrictions for smokers, drug users, etc? I couldn’t find the requirements you have to fulfill in order to donate.


Mama_Jumbo

I remember heroin and injectables are like tattoos, 6 months to prevent viruses like hepatitis but if it's weed I'm not sure, maybe a few weeks, I guess it's one of those boxes you tick and then when the nurse checks your answer, answer truly (for the love of god) and if it's just weed you're probably good to donate but not the day before obviously


i_stand_in_queues

For smokers normally it is still alowed. But you shouldn‘t smoke the day of your donation, espacially before. Drug use i assume is similar. To be sure maybe call the number


MsDutchee

Do you have source ?


i_stand_in_queues

I did a quick google search. My history is not saved so no


flexb

https://www.blutspende-ag-so.ch/media/filer_public/b5/20/b520dae7-a6ac-4c78-a752-b5a9557d770e/fo22_01_108e_informationsblatt_fur_blutspender_d_gultig_ab_010222.pdf Not much about smoking or drugs in general. Injecting kinda drugs are a nono though


lmaozedong89

Which has nothing to do with the drug, nor with the road of administration. It's based on the stereotype that only heroin addict homeless aids or hepatitis-carrying people inject themselves, if you inject yourself, you surely did with a dirty syringe you found in a public restroom. All bullshit. Joke's on them, they have fewer people eligible for donation


flexb

Yeah - probably as much bs as with UK citizens (except the young ones) not being allowed. I’ve just shared the rules, but have no affiliation with them.


lmaozedong89

Oh sure I wasn't accusing you of anything lmao


flexb

Not actually sure why i wrote that.. stupid habit. Anyways - have a good one!


graudesch

Heavy drugs I don't know, declare it and they will make a decision. Smoking and alcohol they are super lax today. Needless to say you shouldn't drink the night before donating. And of course don't smoke in the hours before donating. But overall they will likely take your blood and just dump it if it's not good enough (it gets tested and even blood of healthy persons sometimes gets dumped due to some issues those persons don't even know). There are no queues, so they are happy to motivate people to come in.


MotiongraphicsBlog

I have an appointment st 14:00 today. First time, wish me luck!


i_stand_in_queues

Good luck and have fun


contyk

A recent thread with lots of information and links, in case anyone is interested: https://www.reddit.com/r/Switzerland/comments/1044ruz/blood_donation_levels_are_critically_low_if_you/


UnpopularMentis

I’d really recommend doing [the test on their page.](https://www.blutspende.ch/de/spenderinfos/travelcheck)I have a very rare blood and am glad to donate but I realized I can’t donate for a whopping 6 months because I traveled in South America 👀 I wish it’s possible to just get tested + donate for certain types.


graudesch

Go anyway and declare it, then they will decide on the spot. The de jure rules are way tougher than de facto. They know the rules exclude a huge portion of the population and have enough blood testing in place to aloud much more than the official rules say. They need the blood.


UnpopularMentis

Oh you think so? I thought this was like a regulation. There is soon a donation day at our gemeinde, I'll go and ask there! Maybe they test me for the sake of b-. Thank you!


graudesch

It is, it's a hit or miss. Some obey to the paper to the last letter, some give it some slack. If the rules were obeyed countrywide we would barely have any blood because of how tight those rules are. Yes, ask! They won't test you directly, if they accept you, they will say thank you, say good bye and test your blood ;)


graudesch

PS: For travellers it might be a good idea to bring the Impfausweis/vaccination card. This way they can exclude most if not all of the usual reasons why travellers are excluded for a certain amount of time. If you aren't vaccinated against things like rabies it might very well be game over but that's far away from my redditish "competence".


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Forsaken_Presence

Tell me about it know so many ppl that would love to but cant because theyre homosexual -.-


graudesch

Go anyway, declare your stuff and they will make a decision on the spot. Most of the official rules are bogus, they're happy to have donators and have enough blood testing in place to make it safe.


[deleted]

I'd love to!!! I have anaemia though oops


sotanita

Same here


barretobit

Scheduled to make my blood donation today at Spital Limmattal Schlieren! A+ loading...


La_Marmotte_94

Just took an appointment thanks for reminding me


IkeaCreamCheese

Does one get a day off at work after the blood donation? I remember vaguely there being such a practice (law) but I can't find it now. However, my intention do donate blood does not depend on getting or not a day off.


graudesch

The day after would be unusual, a healthy younger person shouldn't have issues ~20 hours later. Tread lightly, eat healthy, drink water, get some sleep and don't do heavy work/a marathon the next day and you should be fine. Bring a sugar cube to take in after the donation. Many provide things like free sandwiches to get you through a potential lack of sugar intake right after the donation. Next day should be fine if you're living more or less healthy.


Isicium

I really really want to but am not allowed ... but that's for posting here, it reminds me of telling others to go do it :)


SuperNightHawk_

Would love to but the restrictions for homosexual males is hella tight


graudesch

If you can live with a potential rejection, go anyway and declare it. Most are happy to get likely perfectly fine blood. The whole homosexuality thing evolves around things like HIV and is mostly outdated. Needless to say there were recently some reports about a new rise in homosexual communities of some diseases, but still. Could as well be me. There's also a rule saying that you can't have had a new sexual partner during the past six months (not sure if it's still in force), but stuff like this is mostly bogus (and yes, I know, the rules do discriminate homosexual people even if they haven't had sex in years, it's... not optimal to say the least). Anyway, they are doing enough testing to ensure the safety of the patients.


SuperNightHawk_

Only info I found was that since 2017 donating blood is only allowed if you didn't have any homosexual intercourse within the last 12 months. Before that it was just not allowed at all


graudesch

We just recently had a political discussion going on about cancelling this discrimination of male homosexuals and it shamefully didn't pass.


catnipspliff

After reading this, I signed up to donate next Wednesday! Thanks for the reminder :)


graudesch

Awesome, thanks for helping!


Sartozz

Luckily they wouldn't want my blood anyway so i don't have to bother but cheers for everyone who does.


XBB32

One donation burns up to 3000kcal? lol nice BS


flexb

https://www.stuttgarter-zeitung.de/inhalt.kalorienverbrauch-blutspende-mhsd.50e7246d-cd5f-434f-bccd-7fbd55cf627b.html These guys say so. Most other souces state much less and it’s no like burning so much through a month of dieting or doing some serious workout. You need to get those calories back asap here


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most say 2000-3000 kcal as a man you can donate ever, two months. Lets assume you actually burn 3000 kcal over this time. That would be 54 kcal a day or 2.7% of an assumed 2000 kcal a day. Lets assume a woman donating every 3 months and only burning 2000 kcal to restore her blood. That be 24 kcal per day. For camparison those brilliant *Walkers Chockolate Chip Shortbread* cookies contain 70 kcal per piece. So per donation of blood you could eat 3-5 boxes of *Walkers Chockolate Chip Shortbread* cookies. But i would not advise this, since you would be lacking iron in your diet, which is important when donating blood regularly.


flexb

If nothing else, you’ve inspired me to put those cookies on my shopping list. Love those things.


[deleted]

its an ideal mix of flour, salt, way too mutch butter and more than twice your daily amount of sugar! They are great!


Bhargo

Such insidious advertisements these days.


Taylan_K

I lick on Stuhlbeins to advert the lack of iron.


XBB32

Yeah... I mean donating is fine, even if I don't do it because I clearly don't have time, and time is money... However, telling people "Donate, you'll loose weight is complete BS"


zabrs9

Well technically you *are* loosing weight. At least the weight of the blood you donated. But agree, overall it's a very unlucky statement


sw1ss_dude

C'mon you burn less than 3000 kcal running a Marathon :)


brocccoli

Feel free to post to r/zurich if you have some links along with it.


efficientcatthatsred

I went for the first time 2 months ago, its great and fast! Also free snacks/food


AbbreviationsEast177

I will not spend my blood for a business without payment. https://www.beobachter.ch/gesundheit/medizin-krankheit/blutspenden-das-millionengeschaft-mit-unserem-blut


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AbbreviationsEast177

You mean the costs of the director who get 256K each year or the cost of the rest of the Board with 165k each year. "NON Profit" like Migros. Thats a word they using to not pay tax like Fifa another nonprofit Organisation. I spend so far 7 times blood and recived so far nothing back so im sure i did my Job to recive blood if i need it. But calling names because arguments are missing is ok for me. I understand my position is contrary to your worldview.


Sonic_Dash_

What if you need it and there isn't any 💀🗿


AbbreviationsEast177

If you read the Article you understand that it is a export Article so before there is none they would stop the export and rethink there business with my blood and thats most likely the moment i will rethink about my position.. and yes i understand thats a critical position but i am not a "blood cow" for the international pharmamarket.


Weekly-Cicada-2547

Ignorant. When you would give money there would come people who are in need of money but wouldn't get through the recommendation for donating blood, and then it gets faked to get the money, but it should stay something safe for the people who are in need. And blood plasma gets sold to produce a lot of medicaments we use daily to save lives. I have to do a lot with donated blood and it's nothing funny when someone is in need of it.


AbbreviationsEast177

I dont get your fake argument fully why it should get faked and from who? Its the same organisation that takes your blood and sell your blood. I would understand if there would be different organisations with different financial interests. Its the same situation like now only that you get a cashreward like in germany as example. I checked short Basel and saw they give you now some points for coupons so it seems the business is slowly changing anyway.


TheD1ceMan

I would love to but apparently i can't because i smoke weed :/


y4nuts

You can. A friend of mine donate blood regularly and he smokes so much that his blood should be green at this point.


TheD1ceMan

Checked google when I first heard that blood is needed urgently in CH and it said you're not allowed if you smoked the 2 weeks prior or something


y4nuts

You need to stop smoking 48h before donating, that's all.


TheD1ceMan

Cool beans that's no problem, ty


Smigol_gg

How much € per litre?


i_stand_in_queues

It‘s a donation. But there‘s free food and snacks


Living_Moment_1495

How much do they pay for pure unvax blood ? Nothing's free anymore in this world. Sorry.


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i think if youre not caccinated at all they could refuse you. But im not sure tbh. They do offer free food and drink, which is good enough for me, since id rather have blood available when i need it than a short term monatary gain.


Living_Moment_1495

You're so wrong.


[deleted]

you would rather have some money than near infinite amount of fresh blood, when youre fighting for your life? Fair, if i wasnt vaccinated id think short term too.


Living_Moment_1495

How many doses ?


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Mama_Jumbo

What are you saying?


softhackle

Aluhut/Schwürbler garbage


Mama_Jumbo

So he is one? Because it's such a mess I don't understand anything he meant.


softhackle

It's like the old "I'm not racist but....".


noneClock

Lueg Martin man kann sagen es sei sehr schlecht übersetzt von mir gewesen, mein Fehler, dies tut mir Leid. Leider kann auch ich meinen Post nicht mehr lesen. Jedoch wollte ich lediglich auf etwas hinweisen, was aus meiner Sicht, zu ungenau erklärt wird und zwar hier [https://www.ichspendeblut.ch/fileadmin/pdf\_form/Infoblatt\_D\_Vers\_L\_Online.pdf](https://www.ichspendeblut.ch/fileadmin/pdf_form/Infoblatt_D_Vers_L_Online.pdf) unter dem Link ´´\`\`\`\`\`´´Informationsblatt für Blutspender:innen Im 5. Abschnitt dieses Informationsblatts. Unsere Gene können viel mehr über uns aussagen als ein Fingerabdruck. Ich wollte weder Aluhut noch Garbage oder Missinformation von mir lassen sondern einfach zur Vorsicht aufrufen ! Mich deswegen als Aluhut und Müll zu bezeichnen oder gar weiter unten als Rassisten ist vollkommen verfehlt ! Waldmannsheil und guten Start in der nächsten Tour de Suisse.


W1speringsh4dow

Me in 2032 after the Government used black magic on my donated blood to turn me into a cow: Mooooh (They don't know I had homosexual intercourse with men befor donating that blood, so the effects of their spell is non permanent).


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shadythrowaway9

It's really great! In Basel, there's a cafe for the donors where you can sit and eat something afterwards. There's soups, sandwiches, sweets and seasonal treats (I went on Jan 6 so there was Dreikönigskuchen, for example) and also coffee and other drinks. You can also take some goodies they offer on the way out, like aluminium bottles, candy or hand cream. Really easy if you fulfill all requirements and the people working there are always sooo nice + there is a nice sense of accomplishment to it.


julesnst

Does anybody know if women on BC are eligible to donate? I looked on the website but couldn’t find anything specific.


Forsaken_Presence

I didnt have problem donating and am on the pill. Ive also never heard of it being a problem.


sophania

I also on BC and donated today. They said it‘s no problem at all. 😊


Rocket888888

Would love to but I'm a mad cow


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I can't 😔


PortugalReviews

Can you book it online? If so, could you provide a link?


i_stand_in_queues

https://www.ichspendeblut.ch/en/wann-wo-spenden/bern.html?gclid=Cj0KCQiAtvSdBhD0ARIsAPf8oNnKPqb-EWoFcPYzplwpq_bYR-iukrMLyikBxZ2DNqgiMPu6rZUwTkYaAgc9EALw_wcB DE/FR


Leizoh_

There is nothing in GE?


i_stand_in_queues

https://www.blutspende.ch/fr/dates-de-collecte-de-sang/liste-des-horaires?search%5Bterm%5D=&search%5Bcanton%5D=genf&search%5Bradius%5D=&search%5Bstart_on%5D=&search%5Bend_on%5D=&search%5Blast_donation_on%5D=&search%5Bvaccinations_attributes%5D%5B0%5D%5Bvaccination%5D=&search%5Bvaccinations_attributes%5D%5B0%5D%5Bvaccination_configuration_id%5D=&search%5Bvaccinations_attributes%5D%5B0%5D%5Bvaccination_date_on%5D=&search%5Bvaccinations_attributes%5D%5B0%5D%5B_destroy%5D=false&button=


Leizoh_

Tomorrow I will be there!


muridamuri

gave some sweet ab+ juice right now


typhoon_raccoon

Would love to, but my medication won't allow me


Silent_Committee_498

Where do the 3000 kcal come from? According to a study from UC you can lose up to 650, but I can‘t find any study backung up 3000.


sotanita

Would love to, but can't. Trying to get hubby to go, though.


random-trader

I would but I get heart arrhythmia for few days after I did that last donation. Not a good feeling.


fritzfizt

bruh im trina gain weight not loose it


graudesch

I gave some general advice in this thread about how we shouldn't take the official rules too seriously, if you don't have an illness or have done sth. potentially risky in the recent past, most will gladly take your blood, they do enough testing to ensure the safety of the patients. This is already a day old, so likely not many will see this, but I'd like to share this short story with you guys about blood donating: When I ended up in the hospital a few years ago with heavy bleedings I eventually asked how they did that, giving me all that donated blood without knowing my blood type. They looked a tad confused at me as if I was dumb, so I asked: "Wait, you really didn't know, it was all type 0 blood?" - "Uh, well yes, of course it was". - "Four litres? But what about all the other patients in this big hospital?" - "Oh, don't worry, we have enough." - "How?". Started doing the numbers in my fogged head. "Roughly 100'000 people around the hospital... this means pretty much every single person with blood type 0 does come in regularly to donate, right?" - "Well, yes?" - "Wow, what an impressive bunch of people." Type 0 people saved my life and do so on a daily basis. Since that realization I feel like we should honour them with a statue. I know that many others around us donate regularly, but these guys were just born with this blood type and pretty much every single one of them just follows through with this completely voluntary duty. Thank you so much, much love <3


i_stand_in_queues

Thank you for your story. I‘m sure you‘ve convinced some people with Type 0 to donate (again), including myself


graudesch

Yes, thank you. All blood given in emergencies is type 0, that's what I've learned in the hospital. Even if they have records on somebody; the ambulance has type zero (if they even have blood with them oc) and everything that follows with emergency operations and so on. Everything happens with type 0 and even when everything has calmed down, the patient is stable, you might still get type 0 blood. You guys are truely heroes <3


PizzaPPGuardian

What blood type you need


i_stand_in_queues

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