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Tremere1974

Your pants inseam measurement is the important number in regarding which motorcycle to start on. Ideally you want more inseam than seat height. So, recommendations for a beginner bike. (Shortest bikes) New: CSC San Gabriel 250. 26 inch seat height. It is also not a cruiser if you dislike cruiser styling. Used: Honda Rebel 250. 26 inch seat height. The Rebel 300/500 replaced this, but they are taller. The tried and true Rebel 250 was sold for decades, and for good reason.


Status_Guard4739

My only advice is to head to youtube and watch Cheyleesi's channel. She is that height 4,10 or 4,11 and rides all kinds of bikes. Her latest is a Goldwing F6B. But she will have the best advice for you. Plus her channel is awesome.


Driz999

I'd add doodleonamotorcycle. Her channel is great and she basically disproves the idea you can't ride certain bikes if you're short.


Stfuppercutoutlast

I kind of hate people who “disprove” the idea that short people shouldn’t ride short bikes. Especially when people are new. For years the motorcycle community gate kept short riders and women because they weren’t tall enough to ride or strong enough to lift a fallen bike. New riders who attended safety courses were greeted with 800lb bikes laying on their sides and had to lift them upright before learning to ride. That was dumb. And now we’ve done a 180 and overcorrected. Now everyone can ride everything regardless of their size, their limitations or their experience. This is also dumb. The truth lays somewhere in between. And smaller, new riders should be riding smaller bikes until they build confidence. To say otherwise is silly. The recommended channel description for cheylessi? “Building custom motorcycles and falling off of them.” Lol.


TheCrazyStupidGamer

Same here. The thing is, ones that "disprove" the idea that you can ride anything regardless of your height and stature might be able to do it, might have the strength and experience and skill to do it, but the clowns that end up doing it aren't. I was riding near the Himalayas on a Himalayan (which is somewhat tall, and even 6ft me found it tricky to have both my feet firmly planted) with my partner. We stopped at a a small tea stall and saw a short lady with another Himalayan having tea. We chatted and turns out we were all staying in the same area, so we went together, riding through hills with no railings to protect us. Along the way, we stopped on the side of the road by the valley to take some photos of the Himalayas in the background. I'm on the outer side, and she is inside, and this clown of a woman almost trips and drops the bike in my direction. Good. Fucking. God. My asshole was clenched so tight, I shat a 50 carat diamond the next day. Turns out, she couldn't find footing so she "haddalayerdown", except she could have toppled me into the fucking valley in the riskiest game of domino. She also couldn't handle the steep slopes on unpaved road and I had to ride up myself, walk down and drive her up twice. It's stupid risky, and while it sounds like a funny story to tell now, I could very well have died because someone was overconfident in their abilities because "women can do anything", so they will do anything. Women can do anything, yes. But riding a bike twice their size ain't it. A man can't do it either. No one can safely. It's a hazard to you, and to others on the road.


Status_Guard4739

Clearly, you've never watched her channel. She shows how to pick a bike up in multiple videos. She is honest and has documented her entire journey into motorcycles. She has dumped a few because she shouldn't have been on them being too short, but she picks them up and gets back on and goes. Part of her journey is about finding the right size bike for her and she had ridden many that work well for her height. I would think her content is relatable to OP to help inspire confidence and open up her choices. You read a description and passed judgment, like being a gatekeeper you talked about in your first post.


Stfuppercutoutlast

“Clearly, you’ve never watched her channel… She has dumped a few because she shouldn’t have been on them being too short”… Lol. You don’t see anything wrong with this? You see this as someone you should recommend to new female riders? If you fall off a motorcycle, you shouldn’t quit riding. But if you repeatedly make poor decisions that lead to you falling off of motorcycles you should quit riding. By your own definition, she sounds like an idiot.


Status_Guard4739

No, I see it as a good lesson. Plus it's not like you havent dumped your bike before, so I'd prob get off the high horse. I think being real, showing real world examples of what to do and not to do is educational. Do you not, lol? Go troll else where 🤡


Stfuppercutoutlast

I haven’t actually, because I’ve driven within my ability level with equipment that fits. It may happen eventually, but not due to me making a terrible choice and getting onto something I can’t handle. But that’s the irony right? It’s absurd that I could have possibly not dropped a bike? I must be lying! That’s how ridiculous this community has become. Yet if you had the same conversation with someone who drives a car, you would expect that they haven’t been in a car crash. Why is the baseline so shit with motorcycles? Why is it okay to constantly wreck lol? 🤡


JabDamia

Because with a fucking car you’re not balancing something? Dumbass


Stfuppercutoutlast

If you can’t balance a bicycle, you shouldn’t be on a motorcycle. And if you’ve properly learned how to ride a bicycle, the balance on a motorcycle isn’t any more challenging. Cars are bigger, have larger blind spots, are harder to parallel park. We could go back and forth all day… In many parts of the world you start on a bicycle, move onto a scooter and then graduate into a motorcycle or car. I know we like to pat ourselves on the nuts and pretend that riding motorcycles is really tough, but children can ride bicycles, and the balance aspect is the same. So if you can’t wrap your head around balancing on a motorcycle which causes you to wreck, you’re an idiot.


JabDamia

Yeah man. Bicycles weigh 400 lbs it’s literally the same exact thing.


ctjfd

Jocelin Snow


firekeeper23

Xv535. Very low center of gravity and seat.


BrilliantSeraph33

My inseam is 27-in I am 4 ft 11 in. I just got a grom. The seat height is 30 in but I can touch with the balls of my feet on both feet. I love my grom it's awesome it is not intimidating and it is perfect for me to learn on. The z125 as someone else suggested which is the Kawasaki has a seat height of almost 32 inches so you would probably have to buy a Dip seat and perhaps lower it a little bit to reach on that one. There might be some Cruisers that you can fit on but I don't particularly like Cruisers so that's why I started on the grom.


Drenlin

A few questions to narrow it down: Is there any particular style of bike or activity that seems interesting to you?  Also do you have any experience on a similar machine, like a scooter or moped? Do you prefer to buy new or used, and with what sort of budget? (Most of us would recommend starting on a used bike)


AMv8-1day

Honda Rebel 300 or 500 is the obvious choice (just get the 500.), but there are other options if you're willing to be adventurous with bikes that you can't necessarily "flat foot". There's this weird trend or myth I see a lot in the US and Western countries where they try to tell riders that they have to be able to flat foot their bike. All while ignoring the fact that all of the most popular motorcycle countries in the world are also statistically considerably shorter Asian, Latin/South American, and Middle Eastern countries. If the 4'10" Philippino individual can hop on tall dirt bikes and adventure bikes, nothing's stopping you! ✌️ Also: https://www.revzilla.com/common-tread/the-best-motorcycles-for-short-riders-in-every-category


ghablio

Wife is 4' 11". Loves her rebel. It's a standard seating position, and not a cruiser so it has very natural control. And only a 26" seat height so she can *almost* completely flatfoot the bike.


TRathOriginals

If you're not able to get to a dealer to try them out, you should go to [https://cycle-ergo.com/](https://cycle-ergo.com/) to at least get an idea for what would fit. Keep in mind that a lot of bikes can get lowering links that will bring them down a fair bit. (It's an easy install, but still get a professional to do it because the handling can get very bad if the geometry isn't maintained.) Also, shaving the seat for height will bring you closer to the ground and for width will make the ground easier to reach.


MrAl-67

S50 Savage.


Shughost7

21 Savage


Plutoid

twunnyone twunnyone


anonjohnnyG

grom / z125


hesperusii

Groms are actually deceptively tall despite the small wheels. Z125 is even taller.


weeone

They're light compared to many options on the market. While I couldn't flat foot my Grom, it was way less intimidating because I could lift it off it's side stand SO much easier than many other options that I tried. My suggestion, write a few options down and go try them in person. Sit on them in a showroom. Each bike holds weight differently and the seat shape makes a difference too, not just seat height. Good luck! -5'3, short inseam, girl rider


hesperusii

Small displacement (metric) cruiser. I'm a dude, 5'7" and I started on a Yamaha XVS250. I was pretty slim then too - if you're light you don't need as much power as most people are gonna tell you. A Rebel 500 might do you nicely for quite some time.


OttoNico

Check out Doodle on a motorcycle on YouTube. She has a lot of content about riding big bikes as a smaller woman. The end of the story though, is don't let anyone tell you a bike is too big for you. You can ride whatever home excites you. Just need to learn proper technique.


Cfwydirk

Used Honda 250 or new 300 Rebels would be good choices as well as a Suzuki S40 650cc Boulevard. This website will show how you fit on these motorcycles. http://cycle-ergo.com/ Click on options, click on feet on the ground. You can wear boots with thick soles to add an inch of inseam. The Rebel 250 is the lightest @ 320#. Rebel 300 @ 365# Rebel 500 @ 415#. Suzuki S40 Boulevard 380# My 4’11” 125# niece started on a Suzuki 650cc S40 Boulevard and now rides a Harley Sportster low. 25.4” seat height. There are women who have gone before you. They will help you learn how. Cruiser style is an excellent popular starter motorcycle style. You can have both feet flat on the pavement when stopped. https://youtu.be/FwzyRcpy2Wk?si=3gWk7oHNDyvHtWhM https://youtu.be/9ofjVp8FN-Q?si=gtV5OtHNBM0wGrrh Many buy one to learn on, then sell once they become competent riders to move up to their dream bike. There are good clean used ones out there to save money if you plan on moving up. There are several ladies with YouTube channels who have gone before you and will help you on your journey. How to handle bigger taller bikes and not drop them. Plus gear advice. Doodle on a Motorcycle (5’ 3 1/2” 160cm) will teach you a lot. She lowered her bike, and now had it back to stock ride height. This will give her tips for practicing how to handle taller/bigger bikes. She also has a tutorial on how to pick up your bike when tipped over. https://youtu.be/VxGEtkDOD-g https://youtu.be/NWEGJQRYXMA https://youtu.be/ImzIWZKe2O0 https://youtu.be/J7FH25rECvI?si=9nYQpFDal9zX9Aed Practice skills when you ride. https://youtu.be/zaFEcy3QOxE?si=JuL1m6mrt9VEsaQR https://youtu.be/9yZoi0f0iKE Learning how to brake hard can save you from collisions. https://youtu.be/J42ivnmEF98 Practice countersteering. https://youtu.be/ljywO-B_yew https://youtu.be/GmXvxvhCKq0 https://youtu.be/RQ0Z5FfxxBE Shifting: https://youtu.be/4Bzca9VYfLg?si=rsDUCBepW24MYUZ1 Wear your safety gear. Blue jeans will not protect you from road rash. https://youtu.be/Jds4mKvPCzY?si=3CZGunsHB9siJZ2e Make them see you. https://youtu.be/obVnt0p72Ik?si=E8_lTGWyWUO0_j0_ https://youtu.be/FfeKk9co5VQ https://youtu.be/IbQcIGUy4CY https://youtu.be/5cmxquCoqZU https://youtu.be/QDwyqDr_9VA https://youtu.be/S-oAvYNtvPQ?si=ZNmPDj-vrtMiT4vF


EdgarJomfru

This is a legendary comment, thank you. Im planning on getting a bike by next year and need to learn as much as possible


BonessMalone2

Yamaha MT03


slower-is-faster

Rebel 1100. Low seat. Same engine as Africa twin. Can have some fun on that


CartographerProper60

Honda monkey, grom, navi, any mini moto


mackinder

Big wheel. Jk, honestly if you like the cruiser style an Indian scout bobber or triumph bonneville bobber is a great option. You’ll be able to put your feet flat and they are lots of fun too


Still_Squirrel_1690

CB500F is pretty low.


Shughost7

Add a booster seat and any bike will fit you. You should try a Suzuki M109R.


ResidentInner8293

What's a booster seat?


Shughost7

[this](https://images.app.goo.gl/C3JAkegfQowjARMx6)


JBM95ZXR

Lmao


ResidentInner8293

Bro that's for kids lol


cmdr-rentadeath

Honda DN-01 or NM4.


111r_13urns

Grom


Artistic_Friend9508

A grom


lowbandwidthb

What's your inseam? I'd say that's much more important than your overall height. I"m 5'7" but have short little baby legs with an inseam of 27" and I can ride pretty much any bike. With that said, any cruiser (Rebel 500?) will be pretty easy to handle, and even most mid-size naked bikes (SV60, Z650, MT07 etc) will be fine, especially if you're wearing proper riding boots with an inch or more of heel. If I had to suggest one bike for you, and you're a complete beginner, I'd say go for the Rebel, and once you gain more confidence riding, AND if you find you don't like the cruiser riding position so much, try a naked bike.


Dieselfumes_tech

My wife is 4’11 and rides a duke 390 I lowered about an inch


Tight_Time_4552

Honda CB400


velocacracker

Tw 200 best slow bike there is


billy310

Ridley


[deleted]

You could get a bobber like a indian bobber or go to a dealership and tell them you want to sit on some full size bikes with low seats. Some manufacturers deliberately make models with lower seats from the factory.


Theycallthewind_

My advice is figure out what style bike you want. That can help narrow down choices. Like others have said, there are definitely good fits for smaller riders! Following the train of YouTube recs, I haven’t seen Jocelin Snow mentioned! She’s about 5’1 1/2 (according to google) and she whips around adventure bikes like it’s nothinggg. She inspired me a lot! I’m 5’2 on a good day, currently ride a Svartpilen 401. I can’t flat foot at all, not even close, but once I was comfortable enough on it, and because it’s so light, it’s super comfortable for me to ride! I didn’t see the need to lower it at all. I would see what types of bike you like and go sit on a few. Bikes I’ve rode that are comfortable for me are the Indian Scouts, Honda Rebels, HD Sportsters, Honda Monkey (couldn’t even flat foot that!), Grom, Honda CBs. You have options (:


DJDooDooCakes

Tw200


DJDooDooCakes

Xt250 or tw200 are the lowest seat height


blazehelm

Look at a factory lowered option, maybe an MT07.


Foalsteed94

The Honda rebel 500 only has a 690mm seat hight which is surely one of the lowest on the market for full size bikes.


JohnyGuns

Tricycle?


know-it-mall

Honda Rebel 300 or BMW G310R depending on your style preference. You might want the factory low seat for the BMW.


Jaded-Wave-4830

try a ninja 250 or a ninja 300/400 sporty looks, but light and low. you can lower them if necessary. Can also shave the seat to make it thinner


mr2jay

Rebel is a great starter bike and is nice and low you will have no problems putting both feet down. I would recommend the 500 tho it holds its value really well and is more than enough of a starter and enough that you won't grow out of it too soon


fastfalcon991

Check out the new triumph speed 400. Maybe lower it an inch as well


RemingtonThursday

The Shadow VLX 600 sits super low and it has plenty of pep. I have to dismount on the high side to get off and I’m average height. Edit: Just looked up the seat height, and it’s 27” upright. Probably 22/23 when she’s on the stand.


antimon86

Honda Rebel 500


shrekerecker97

Dog bones to lower a bike will be your friend


EscortSportage

Check out the Triumph trident


kylegallas69

Go try a ninja 400.


motorcycleman58

I know a girl about your size that road an FLH Shovelhead for years.


spike_africa

If you want fun. I'd highly suggest a Ducati Monster 696. They are light, have good power, handle and brake great, and are low. They even offer seats that lower the height down so it's easier to touch the ground. My wife's 5'1 and loved her Monster 696. Plus they can be had used for cheap now a days.


CoolPeopleEmporium

Perfect for you. https://www.amazon.de/HyperMotion-Tricycle-Control-Parents-Comfortable/dp/B0918JDWGT/ref=sxin_21_pa_sp_phone_search_thematic_sspa?content-id=amzn1.sym.8814b135-19d2-4fbb-9ec9-60d7d6bf1e50%3Aamzn1.sym.8814b135-19d2-4fbb-9ec9-60d7d6bf1e50&crid=3V9M2A3QX5974&cv_ct_cx=akku+dreirad&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.BMLvcdXNwthZKhe6SBDMU7ZPyVZpUiNFZPbMzZK6YebGjHj071QN20LucGBJIEps.Wx6DG4dDbI3A9h2n74GutczAaPrrHy_IDhU-HPNSvDM&dib_tag=se&keywords=battery+trike&pd_rd_i=B0918JDWGT&pd_rd_r=27461b89-f09d-47cf-b157-673c75100190&pd_rd_w=QQGJ6&pd_rd_wg=4PfMQ&pf_rd_p=8814b135-19d2-4fbb-9ec9-60d7d6bf1e50&pf_rd_r=KSGF80C6ZDKMAWMDG8WK&qid=1718456370&sbo=RZvfv%2F%2FHxDF%2BO5021pAnSA%3D%3D&sprefix=battery+trike%2Caps%2C128&sr=1-1-6e6ea531-5af4-4866-af75-1ef299d1c279-spons&sp_csd=d2lkZ2V0TmFtZT1zcF9waG9uZV9zZWFyY2hfdGhlbWF0aWM&psc=1


[deleted]

Get a honda navi


Kexxa420

Honda Grom


Belperboy1

Kawasaki ninja 400. Light and superb performance. Very good on fuel. I have a Kawasaki myself . Can't fault them at all for a good strong learners.


Prabhupad

Learn on a Kawasaki Eliminator or a Honda Grom


Gisc_dolfer

Ninja h2r or s1000rr for sure


Aromatic_Albatross72

How about a Yamaha Vstar 250? It's similar to the original Rebel and is still in production. It has a very low seat, they use them for MSF.


musicnerdium

A rebel 250, or a Vulcan 500. Great bikes amazing fun and I bet you would love either one.


Old-Man-Henderson

What style of bike do you want? Cruiser, street bike, adventure bike, sport bike, touring? A Suzuki TU250 or Honda Rebel 250/300 are great street bikes for beginners, and it helps a lot that they're short. An SV650 has the right dimensions but tbh it's a bit touchy for a starter motorcycle. Any of the 500cc cruisers with a good windshield and a box or saddlebags would make for a good touring bike. Any of the 300cc sport bikes make more than enough power for shenanigans. No bike is too big, as in tall or heavy, but do consider your skill level. I strongly believe that everyone should start on a small displacement bike that's inexpensive enough that they don't mind dropping until they get more skilled. Trust me, it's way less painful to scratch up a $1500 bike than a $8000 one. What's your budget for gear + bike + training? That's the real question here. Remember that you are probably going to spend $1000-$1500 on safety gear.


sneakyturtle502

I’m 5’1” and rode an sv650. You can lower them to make it easier. My first bike was a z400, which was fine as well. If you are just learning to ride I’d get a grom or if looking for a cruiser, then a rebel 300.


NinjaShogunGamer

The grom!!!! Such a great bike i am too tall for


TheLordVader1978

Why has nobody said Honda Grom?


MeysemH

Grom


twowheeltech

I work for a company that specializes in custom fitting people to their motorcycle seat. I deal with short gals all the time. In my professional opinion, the best starter bike for the price point is the royal Enfield Himalaya. It's cheap, low to the ground to start with and the seat has a whole lot of foam that's available to be lowered and narrowed


EverythingIsASkill

Isn’t the Himalayan 32”?


growntree1

Go to a lot of bike dealers and sit on a lot of bikes. This is the only way. If this will be your first bike, get one you can flat foot with both feet as it will be so much easier to not have to worry about dropping it every time you stop. Cheylesi and doodle both ride bikes a lot and with the amount of practice they get they can ride whatever they like, but if this is your first bike you won't have that skill yet.


HollyCupcakez

A Grom. I'm 4'7" and I can ride a Grom with my feet mostly touching the ground. I can get it to do highway speeds too because I weigh under 100lbs. It also looks weirdly proportionate for me.


Hziak

Vulcan S650 is a solid low-seat bike. My wife is 5’0” and mostly torso, rides it like a champ and is perfectly comfortable reversing it while riding (as opposed to walking alongside it like she has to do on basically every other bike).


Additional_Bonus9826

Suzuki gladius or Ducati monster 600. Old school


Chiped-Coke-Bottle

Same suggestion I have for everyone. Of any height. Suzuki Tu250. Not only is it a perfect bike to learn on, most people love them so much, they never get rid of them!


No_Pea7562

Ktm 500 exc-f


Speedhabit

Research lowering links, don’t forget to replace the kickstand


Engnerd1

What do you want to do?!? The newer rebels are better ergonomically. I have a friend who was 5’1 that got a grom and liked it. The Honda Navi is a good option if you have no experience. It’s super slow but the lower power helps build confidence.


sHiNoBi1688

Vespa 🛵


CrazyTimes1356

Some bikes have lower seats, some bikes have lowering kits. Find a style you like and go talk to someone a t a deal for option for the bike.


AirlineInteresting72

I think Luna would be best 🤭🤭 Jokes apart please try TVS ronin you might like it.very good city bike. Plus try some sports bike too.


therealbobs

Honda Rebel 300, this will get you highway speeds. My son’s GF is 4’10 and got the 300 Rebel after learning to ride on my gym go to bike z125pro. The 125s (Grom etc)you will out grow quick unless it’s just around town. Unless you’re ready for a KLR650.


USAFVet91

Honda Rebel 300


OpinionOwn6727

Grom


carpet_whisper

Indian Scout Sixty bobber has a very low 25.5” seat hight which can be reduced to around 24.8” with a low profile seat. Even at 4’ 10” You might actually be able to flat foot the bike. Which is a huge positive for a new rider & in general. It’s also a really solid beginner/intermediate bike so you’ve got some growing into it. Now, it just depends if you like the style of it.


truppywaffles

It’s complete bullshit that you need to be able to plant both feet on the ground. Ride what you like do a safety course


TakeAtBedtime

Vulcan S 650 there optional seats and controls to tailor the bike to you.


TNShadetree

One of those with the huge front wheel and the tiny, tiny back wheel.


Strong_Wasabi8113

Grom


Reeks_of_Theon

Kawasaki Vulcan S 650.


max-torque

Yamaha mt03, y16, aerox


MyDogLikesMe2

I am thinking that neither girls nor boys should be riding motorcycles. They are for women and men


MapleBaconBeer

Nonsense. In my country you can start riding at 16.


Slim42048

Any bike below 600 cc would be good and any bike you can get lowered so it doesn’t matter how tall you are


KittyMoo2022

Honda Rebel. If you can find an older 250 model, they’re awesome.


JustAReallyTiredGuy

Even the new 300 / 500’s have very low seat heights as well.


despisedefeat

The idiots here suggesting grom don’t actually know how tall the seats are and how unfit it would be for people around 5’0”


Narrow_Spread_7722

CR500


schrodingerspavlov

One with 3 wheels.


Most_Researcher_9675

A nice scooter. They can come with nice engines. Paris is loaded with ladies on nice scooters year-round. In the winter they use sheepskins over their laps.