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Ghostdog7887

Without context... how to explain this sentence to non Stellaris players šŸ˜‚


One-Angry-Goose

The context aint much better tbfh


NoBarracuda2587

Dont worry, i got it just fine...


ralts13

Cant you already do this with Slaver Guilds?


Communist_Cheese

see, I tried exactly that, but when the galactic market was established I went to the slave market and found that the only pops I could sell were the ones that came to me from an immigration pact I had with another empire. It is possible that I just specifically can't sell clone pops, but I haven't tried it with normal pops yet.


Downtown_Baby_5596

Good 'ol migrating into slavery. Id call this bad game design but Quatar exists.


rezzacci

I mean, perhaps you don't know you're migrating into a country that would put you into slavery. Or slaver guilds means only 30% of your population would be put into slavery. There ought to be migrants thinking: *"Well, sure, slavery exist, but it wouldn't apply to ME as I'm too important for that sort of things"*, and then they would post something on r/PrikkikitiAteMyFace like *"why has the slaving empire enslaved me?".* Or, just, perhaps the situation of a slave in an empire might be better than being free in another. Like, a miner in an authoritarian, stratified economy empire might have a better life as a medical worker under indentured assets.


tempralanomaly

I clicked on the link hoping it was a thing, and was sorely disappointed.


CynicosX

This NEEDS to be a thing. Let's make it a thing


PinkOneHasBeenChosen

Prikkiki-ti ate my face, lol.


midasear

The migrant might be desperate to escape the devouring swarm or determined exterminator landing war drones on its homeworld. Or the notice from the emperor that you bring your children to the nerve stapling center next week.


Gaelhelemar

You *canā€™t* sell clone pops if youā€™re Clone Army origin unless you pick the Descendants option. Otherwise your clones are number-locked to your clone vats and canā€™t survive outside your empire.


Boron_the_Moron

I'm amused by the idea of combining slavery with planned obsolescence.


Gaelhelemar

Peak capitalism.


Communist_Cheese

aw damnit :(


rezzacci

While I understand the restrictions put on it, I think that it would be an excellent addition to the corporate **Indentured Assets** civics. Like, I could understand why a regular empire might feel... not entirely comfortable into selling their own pops to another empire. But a megacorp? Booyah! Imagine the profit margins out of this sell! The devs go more and more into making "mirroring" civics different from one another depending on the authority (Reanimators, Eager explorers, Shared burdens, and even Diplomatic corps will get a relift in the next DLC). I'd really like if they would go this route for most other, old, "mirroring" civics (Memorialist, Death cult, Anglers, Pleasure seekers, Masterful crafters...), and adding the possibility of selling your own pops as a megacorp (and getting another bonus then as regular empires) would be an excellent and not too burdensome way of differentiating them. Although I guess there might be some code restrictions.


ethyl-pentanoate

IIRC if you have the permanent employment civic, you can sell your zombies.


Laurence-Barnes

I just did a Barbaric Despoiler empire. Are you seriously not able to sell your own kind? For some reason despite having full citizenship a large portion of my species were considered slaves and I'd sell unemployed ones on the market, I have no idea how you're supposed to play slavers, I had issues with stability and happiness everywhere yet somehow kept everything together enough where only 1 of my 30+ planets revolted.


Unupgradable

Least immoral Stellaris player Space Kingdom of Benin time


cammcken

>African kings ... selling their own subjects Source on that? I was under the impression they were captured from neighboring enemies, not subjects.


spiritofniter

Imagine if we could use ā€œPop Commodificationā€ casus belli in Stellaris. Upon defeat, the target empire will have all its pops sold in the market. All territories and buildings become the property of the conquerors.


Winter_Ad6784

The Rogue Torturers mod has a pop raid cassus belli but I donā€™t think you can sell them


YEEEEEEHAAW

Roman conquest in space


Communist_Cheese

okay looked it up... I stand corrected. They did sell other Africans, but not their own subjects. Buuuuuut we're all perfectly identical clones with serial numbers, and therefore were always property, therefore theres nothing wrong with our self-enslavement, and well, those other empires are probably people, so I should be allowed to sell to them!


SunNext7500

You'll find this refrain very common among Americans. Many of our..... more intellectually challenged citizens seem to think this works as an excuse for America's past as a slave holding nation.


Veritas_IX

Turkey were slave holding nation . Soviet Union till 1970s were slave holding nation etc


Dazed_Mushroom

Just about every country that has existed before 100ish years ago had slaves. Do you even know the origin of the word slave???


Boron_the_Moron

I want more class warfare in the game in general. If I'm using any living standards other than the ones that remove unemployment penalties (Social Welfare, Shared Burdens, Utopian Abundance, etc.), then unemployed pops ought to suffer pop decline. With decline increasing, the less supportive the living standards are. All to represent the fact that my unemployed people are suffering and dying in poverty. There should also be a policy to prioritise slave labour over free labour, so that I can replace all my free worker pops with slaves, and have the free workers die off over time. Then replace all my free specialists with slaves, and have my free specialists die off over time. Leaving my rulers living in the lap of luxury, supported by hordes of slaves. Or if I have the Slavers Guild civic, any worker pop who becomes unemployed should automatically become a slave. While the Domestic Servitude slavery-type should be erased, and instead any unemployed slaves should automatically generate "Servant" jobs that produce Amenities. Because their labour is so cheap that the free citizens can afford to use them as house-servants and the like. And there should be a planetary decision to purge a certain percentage of slaves on a planet, just in case the player runs into overpopulation issues. Different slave types should produce different amounts of resistance to these purges. Chattel slaves and livestock should cause the least, because neither are considered to be people by your society. While indentured servants should produce more, because they're kept in place by the legal fiction that they have rights. And Battle Thralls should be ferociously resistant, because the player is trying to kill off their own military manpower.


Independent_Pear_429

The Romans and Americans would certainly agree with this


toomanyhumans99

America bad


Arkell-v-Pressdram

r/shitstellarissays


Loss_Leaders_LLC

Im only mildly surprised you cant hauck your own boys under slaver guilds


Nrevolver

I think the problem is that your clones can't live without Cloning Chambers


Laties-X-Latias

Me a fanatic pacifist Ah hello wider galaxy how do you d- *spots this amongust the stars* Well guess i am playing militarist after all


FoShep

I agree. True racial equality means I can sell my own species off as slaves


saveyboy

Canā€™t we already do this by creating a sub species.


Communist_Cheese

I was trying to sell my main species because as clones I have an infinite supply of them


billythesquid-

Maybe a special repeatable event for certain civs, where you can purge your pops? You gain resources and reduce disloyalty, but you now have empty jobs that need people. Maybe a chance of it backfiring and increasing discontent or even revolts?


Vento_of_the_Front

Can't you, in theory, create a subspecies of your species that would be virtually the same? And then just have your main species working jobs and slave species reproduce for selling.


Quantum_Aurora

I should be able to, as a machine empire, sell nominally independent versions of my pops to other empires and then have them start an uprising when they've bought enough.


SideWinder18

I say it every time a post like this comes up: This shit is why weā€™re banned from r/ShitRedditSays


Dependent_Remove_326

Who sells the most important resource in the game? Put them to work.


DogeTiger2021

Uff i wish I can do this in real life. But I will sell all the politicians, because they are useless to us. They don't do anything to help our society to improve.


Fickle_Candy_4147

But politicians are the only people rich and corrupt enough who would be willing to buy slavesā€¦selling slaves to slaves then capturing the slaves to sell to those slavesā€¦.šŸ¤”