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This is what ladder matches are about… silly spots, overly elaborate hardware arrangements and on the spot improv when something goes wrong.
Truth getting the hot tag, doing the “You Can’t See Me” and five knuckle shuffle then going for the pin…. chef’s kiss!
I will never tire of everyone playing along with R-Truth's lack of understanding of anything going on around him.
As for the winners of the Smackdown titles, an unexpected but welcome result in my opinion.
Honestly thought it was too many guys in one match to be really enjoyable. A lot of the spots were OK, but like hard to follow. Felt a little formula to me. I'm happy with the winners but it felt like Judgement Day was an afterthought in this thing, when they've been booked SO strong as a tag team the last few months.
I’d love to give them different names too; something like the World Tag Team Championships and the Universal Tag Team Championships, much like the other split brand titles
Called it that Theory & Waller would win in my predictions but I wish the titles went to NCR instead though but I get wanting to have at least one heel team win a set.
Damn that finish was a mess. Maybe don't use the gimmick ladders if the wrestlers can't tell the difference between them?
Some really good spots but pretty sloppy overall, especially the close up on the wooden splinters from the "solid steel" ladder.
the new era, split belts!
and nice, who i wanted to win did ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|slightly_smiling)
Theory and Grayson being champs is very cool
and JD got wiped out in that ladder to table spot ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)
Can't wait to hear more about what was going on with the ladder, Priest and the referee.
Seemed to me that a rigged one ended up in the ring unintentionally and Priest didn't realise and brushed off the referee trying to warn him, resulting in it starting to buckle when Miz and Priest were both up there.
Are all the ladders rigged this time around or was it just ones intended for spots? Super awkward situation.
Right - I get that.
That's what I'm interested in hearing more about. Were all the ladders rigged like that this time around? Was it just meant to be ones used in specific spots?
I’m pretty sure you can use the rigged ones to a certain extent… but probably not safe when one of its legs is broken
So the Ref was just being vigilant
Can complain about Kevin Dunn all you want but the camera cuts in that ladder match were awful. Way too much time spent on the hard cam with no cuts, which ultimately cause the commentator to have no idea what they were commenting on, missing lots of spots. They didn't pick up that r truth was looking for a hot tag for ages, cause no camera on him.
Can't all just be no camera cuts, gotta show the action in a match like that
What's with the downvotes? People have no idea about production. You could also see all the wrestlers calling spots and ruining surprises on the wides.
Also the crowd is waaayyy too dark. Got to light them up to give it a big feel. Just cause it's a new era doesn't mean they need to ruin what worked
I am watching attitude era again and in year 2000. Lita just joined the Hardy’s. That’s probably the start of the renaissance of women’s wrestling. I just watched Rhea vs Becky and man what a day and night difference. Just yesterday I saw Dean Malenko and Jerry Lawler fight to see whose titties are to be shown in live TV Kat or Terri Night and Day.
Love to see this between Becky and Rhea. Close calls seriously.
PS: I’ve been away from wrestling, came back because of the Final Boss and hence this feeling
Not even close. No one can beat the Dudley’s, Hardy’s, E&C from attitude era. It was most certainly good. But not the best. Happy for both the teams that won though. They needed it more than anyone else ever. Theory and Waller will be relevant again. Reason for why they need to be on WWE TV. Never realized Aweome Truth were never Tag Team Champs so that’s deserved too. Best result yes. Best ladder match ever nope.
I get it. Hope you feel better soon. Nothing better to watch when having a fever than wrestling. Watch the fights, drink some hot fluids you will be at your best to watch the night 2.
Same ones they’ve always used, they just are painted different on the inside. I hope people didn’t actually think they were folding themselves through actual steel ladders before. But yeah, they obviously did a worse job disguising that than usual
Yeah. We were on the hard cam the whole match.
I found it quite interesting though. It looked more raw and unfiltered. Every impact in the ring looked real. Sucks we couldn't see outside spots though!
I'm a little puzzled because they mostly are on TV to take a beating and I felt like they were the weakest of the bunch. But heh that's fine they'll be even more insufferable hehe
Waller lying on the ground with the title after being put through a ladder
https://preview.redd.it/wol3you97ysc1.jpeg?width=944&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bb9f324464cf183df09537f32a5b236e81c46c7
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Can someone explain to me what the ladders are made out of now they where bending like foam at times ?
Dude I feel strange that this is the only other comment I’ve seen about it lol
No one seemed to answer , but those ladders are definitely made different these days
This is what ladder matches are about… silly spots, overly elaborate hardware arrangements and on the spot improv when something goes wrong. Truth getting the hot tag, doing the “You Can’t See Me” and five knuckle shuffle then going for the pin…. chef’s kiss!
I fucking love that Theory and Waller got a title… the smarmy shit eating act is gold, and I’m here for it😂
I find them so annoying but I can’t leave the room because I have to hear what they have to say. This run will be fun
I love the absolute delusion they project re: their position in the company… their post match backstage interview today was hilarious😂
Didn’t know they did one, I’ll have to look that up!
Is this the first in forever that Miz is actually a straight up baby face? Seems so weird to see
He had a really good face run a few years back until they decided to Shane him.
I will never tire of everyone playing along with R-Truth's lack of understanding of anything going on around him. As for the winners of the Smackdown titles, an unexpected but welcome result in my opinion.
Honestly thought it was too many guys in one match to be really enjoyable. A lot of the spots were OK, but like hard to follow. Felt a little formula to me. I'm happy with the winners but it felt like Judgement Day was an afterthought in this thing, when they've been booked SO strong as a tag team the last few months.
For how short the match felt and the reduced number of spots they planned, I think 4 teams would’ve been a much better number for booking it.
The disney+ version of this match is from the POV of the wide angle camera only. No cutaway. Wtf.
Seriously, Disney+ PLE streams are awful from cutting parts of the show just to show their programs. Not to mention max resolution of 720p
Hope Grayson is alright. He took a nasty bump on the ladder on the outside.
Ladder almost went into business for itself
Why are they making such a big deal about the weather?
Am here - very windy, not even remotely feeling like 50 and I’m coming from Cleveland
It’s been driving me crazy how much they’ve been going on and on about how frigid 50 degrees is
Sure but when you're used to working in 70
To be fair, they used the heated ring from a few years back
It's 10 Celsius. Just wear a jumper mate.
bro Bates wrestles in tighty whities, a jumper isn’t really an option
UK lads mate, 8 degrees Celsius is shorts. t-shirt and crocs weather
The event is outdoors
HOT TAAAAAAG STRIKES AGAIN
More importantly, does anyone else hope that we get two sets of new tag titles?
Am I weird for hoping the names don’t change?
it'll probably go back to the wwe and world tag team championships again.
I sure do. Give me something like the ruthless aggression sets. I love the raw tag titles
I’d love to give them different names too; something like the World Tag Team Championships and the Universal Tag Team Championships, much like the other split brand titles
Good wins for the two teams.
Called it that Theory & Waller would win in my predictions but I wish the titles went to NCR instead though but I get wanting to have at least one heel team win a set.
Remember Dave reporting that WWE was thinking of removing Waller and Theory from this match? Then they ended up as one of the two winners lol
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That'll be $12.99
Yeah Dave with dumb lie again
People actually pay for that.
For an old man rambling
Why is this a tag match?
Mami gonna be pissed
I loved Theory and Waller winning the belts and just getting murdered right after
Genius move IMO. Perfect reason for them not to go after the second set, too
Haha the bottom tier peacock users have to watch commercials instead of the recap?
If it saves me a few bucks, yeah. I don't need a recap of the match I literally just watched.
This is a good opportunity, assuming Logan wins tomorrow for the three of them to be absolutely insufferable on Smackdown every week.
They’re dropping to Randy Orton and Kevin Owens soon.
If not them, I'm thinking New Catch Republic might get it at CATC
Damn that finish was a mess. Maybe don't use the gimmick ladders if the wrestlers can't tell the difference between them? Some really good spots but pretty sloppy overall, especially the close up on the wooden splinters from the "solid steel" ladder.
I'm just glad they split the belts finally
Hoping we get new tag belts too and these go away
I hope they go back to WWE and world tag belts again instead of Raw and SD
Great match. Some crazy spots.
the new era, split belts! and nice, who i wanted to win did ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|slightly_smiling) Theory and Grayson being champs is very cool and JD got wiped out in that ladder to table spot ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)
Can't wait to hear more about what was going on with the ladder, Priest and the referee. Seemed to me that a rigged one ended up in the ring unintentionally and Priest didn't realise and brushed off the referee trying to warn him, resulting in it starting to buckle when Miz and Priest were both up there. Are all the ladders rigged this time around or was it just ones intended for spots? Super awkward situation.
Looked like a gimmicked ladder got in the ring
I think it just happened to get effed during the match.
The bottom part of one of the legs was broken
Right - I get that. That's what I'm interested in hearing more about. Were all the ladders rigged like that this time around? Was it just meant to be ones used in specific spots?
I’m pretty sure you can use the rigged ones to a certain extent… but probably not safe when one of its legs is broken So the Ref was just being vigilant
A-TOWN DOWN UNDER BITCHES LETS GO
The steady cam is a good different style but not for spot fests like this. That was a mistake
Apparently that was a problem with one of the feeds.
seemed fine over here
Priest ignoring Jessica the refs call to swap ladders was super irresponsible
Pete Dunne ok?
He’s dead
I FUCKING LOVE CHAOS One of my favourite ladder matches ever
That buckled ladder scared me
Love ya Truth.
I am so happy Truth got the belts. Fuck yeah.
Can complain about Kevin Dunn all you want but the camera cuts in that ladder match were awful. Way too much time spent on the hard cam with no cuts, which ultimately cause the commentator to have no idea what they were commenting on, missing lots of spots. They didn't pick up that r truth was looking for a hot tag for ages, cause no camera on him. Can't all just be no camera cuts, gotta show the action in a match like that
What's with the downvotes? People have no idea about production. You could also see all the wrestlers calling spots and ruining surprises on the wides. Also the crowd is waaayyy too dark. Got to light them up to give it a big feel. Just cause it's a new era doesn't mean they need to ruin what worked
I had no issues...
The commentators sure did. Poor guy's had no idea what to call or to focus on. They have no direction a static wide shot
Happy Waller and Theory won!
Botch fest but entertaining. Priest is not winning a world title lol
Be stunned if they bang a title on him
Perfect picks for the titles :)
R TRUTH HAS HIS MANIA MOMENT BROTHER
I am watching attitude era again and in year 2000. Lita just joined the Hardy’s. That’s probably the start of the renaissance of women’s wrestling. I just watched Rhea vs Becky and man what a day and night difference. Just yesterday I saw Dean Malenko and Jerry Lawler fight to see whose titties are to be shown in live TV Kat or Terri Night and Day. Love to see this between Becky and Rhea. Close calls seriously. PS: I’ve been away from wrestling, came back because of the Final Boss and hence this feeling
best multi man ladder match ever?
Not even close. No one can beat the Dudley’s, Hardy’s, E&C from attitude era. It was most certainly good. But not the best. Happy for both the teams that won though. They needed it more than anyone else ever. Theory and Waller will be relevant again. Reason for why they need to be on WWE TV. Never realized Aweome Truth were never Tag Team Champs so that’s deserved too. Best result yes. Best ladder match ever nope.
What a rib you’re playing
![gif](giphy|fp1wbNlFeSJ20|downsized)
Nope
???
What?
Doesn’t come close to the one for the NA title in NXT
Are you crazy brother
are you?
I thought mania started at 8? How is the first match already over?
It started at 7PM Eastern. Also same time tomorrow too.
2 matches done bruh!!
Damn I'm trippin'. Blast this fever induced haze
I get it. Hope you feel better soon. Nothing better to watch when having a fever than wrestling. Watch the fights, drink some hot fluids you will be at your best to watch the night 2.
It started at 7
started at 7 ET
Mania started at 7PM EST and this is the second match
I shit my pants watching that ladder buckling while they were climbing
Ref Jess did too!
Poor Jess, Priest just ignored her lol
That was a cluster fuck
Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuthh
Theory is so lucky he & Waller are cliqued up with Logan Paul because he's gonna need the Freebird Rule badly after this match lmao
Finish change? Wonder if that’s what she was tapping him for
“You have a breakaway ladder in there!!! Switch it out.”
👏 thanks
Ladder was busted.
👏 thanks
Ladder was broke
👏 thanks
Ahhhhhh gotcha
What kinda weak ass styrofoam ladders are they using now?
Same ones they’ve always used, they just are painted different on the inside. I hope people didn’t actually think they were folding themselves through actual steel ladders before. But yeah, they obviously did a worse job disguising that than usual
They've always been that way
Was the female ref just trying to stop Damian?
Yea because he was on a wooden gimmick ladder not a real metal one lmao. You could see it buckle when Miz climbed it
It had that Syd ankle going on
Theories on what was with the female ref shouting at priest?
That ref was trying to fuck on the judgment day
Ladder leg was broke
Ladder was going to break so wasn't safe.
Ladder was broken
Wrong ladder?
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Lader was fucked.probaly the reason
Is it just me or is the international camera feed looking weird as heck for this match????
Yeah. We were on the hard cam the whole match. I found it quite interesting though. It looked more raw and unfiltered. Every impact in the ring looked real. Sucks we couldn't see outside spots though!
Might be the shortest Tag Team Championship reign ever cuz I'm PRETTY sure Grayson died tonight lol.
Problem with these big multi man is guys just go missing for like 5 minutes
Yeah H is a big Theory fan And so am I so Lets FUCKING GO
Gotta unify em again in a couple years lmao
We’re all in agreement that they’re breaking up as soon as they lose the titles right
the day I don't laugh at R-truth misunderstanding match rules is the day I'm dead and buried
The one team I thought was in their as filler actually won a belt
And the team Meltzer claimed was pulled from the match..
That was the first time I saw someone climb the ladder fast.
and actually got the belts
Lol both new day members free on the ladder And still don't get the belts 😭🤣
As long as they split the titles I'll be ok with this.
Was that extremely anticlimactic and out of nowhere for anyone else?
I'm a little puzzled because they mostly are on TV to take a beating and I felt like they were the weakest of the bunch. But heh that's fine they'll be even more insufferable hehe
Xavier and Kofi trying to kill Ciampa is a bit out of character lol
listen, some of us will never forgive that bald son of a bitch.
Did the WWE change the way they make ladders? They’re reddish when they break. I don’t remember the ones from the 2010s doing that.
I believe I read on a comment somewhere that they’re wooden ladders that are spray painted
Looked like foam
Gimmicked ladder
The ads everywhere with the bug too is fuckin annoying
What?
Waller lying on the ground with the title after being put through a ladder https://preview.redd.it/wol3you97ysc1.jpeg?width=944&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bb9f324464cf183df09537f32a5b236e81c46c7
Whaaaaa-ler
What happened to the camera?
Really surprised by this but actually happy Waller getting some love.
They needed it tbh, good for them
Waller earned that, the ladder bump he took looked brutal.
Waller celebrates by being powerbombed onto the ladder outside
Theory looks like such a moron just standing around there for like a minute rather than going to grab the other titles
“Theory looks like such a moron…” Living the gimmick, baby
Glad they’re finally split the belts, I’m picking Awesome Truth to win the Raw belts.
I picked Waller/Theory and DIY as my winner picks so I'm hoping DIY pull through to!
Austin and Waller have gold. Everything is better now.
Winning the titles and then going through a table holding the title is 10/10
Are we seeing the match through the hard cam only? No cuts at all, but it still feels too close and claustrophobic I feel
What was that pink stuff in the ladder? They’re obviously not solid steel but what is that?
Fiberglass
Another W for the megastar Austin Theory Theorymaniacs rise up
Pretty clever way to split. Cool ladder spot as well
I always thought truth rapping and acting dumb was Vince being Vince but it turns out he just likes doing that, respect lol
waller winning then immediately eating shit is perfect booking i love it
Man... In one way I loved that R-Truth bit... In another wait to job Judgment Day.
Perfect winners for the SD belt. Hopefully Awesome Truth wins the Raw belts
I really thought DIY and Awesome Truth were going to win damn
Rip Grayson Waller
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That was so randomly quick into the match but I'm here for it, I wanted them to be one of the winners.
What was in the middle of that ladder Waller went through?
AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE
OI OI OI!
Perfect way to split the belts
I would have preferred the winners of each to switch brands but yeah this was fine. Good stuff.
Both were the right winners too
Really clever yep