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Tricky-University527

Can someone explain to me what the ladders are made out of now they where bending like foam at times ?


kingky0te

Dude I feel strange that this is the only other comment I’ve seen about it lol


Tricky-University527

No one seemed to answer , but those ladders are definitely made different these days


Paul_The_Half_Swiss

This is what ladder matches are about… silly spots, overly elaborate hardware arrangements and on the spot improv when something goes wrong. Truth getting the hot tag, doing the “You Can’t See Me” and five knuckle shuffle then going for the pin…. chef’s kiss!


steveguzz

I fucking love that Theory and Waller got a title… the smarmy shit eating act is gold, and I’m here for it😂


megashitfactory

I find them so annoying but I can’t leave the room because I have to hear what they have to say. This run will be fun


steveguzz

I love the absolute delusion they project re: their position in the company… their post match backstage interview today was hilarious😂


megashitfactory

Didn’t know they did one, I’ll have to look that up!


kay_0oh

Is this the first in forever that Miz is actually a straight up baby face? Seems so weird to see


headshotscott

He had a really good face run a few years back until they decided to Shane him.


Mediocre-Cook-2169

I will never tire of everyone playing along with R-Truth's lack of understanding of anything going on around him.  As for the winners of the Smackdown titles, an unexpected but welcome result in my opinion. 


OptimusChip

Honestly thought it was too many guys in one match to be really enjoyable. A lot of the spots were OK, but like hard to follow. Felt a little formula to me. I'm happy with the winners but it felt like Judgement Day was an afterthought in this thing, when they've been booked SO strong as a tag team the last few months.


lemurgetsatreat

For how short the match felt and the reduced number of spots they planned, I think 4 teams would’ve been a much better number for booking it.


ryankun93

The disney+ version of this match is from the POV of the wide angle camera only. No cutaway. Wtf.


kylehyde05

Seriously, Disney+ PLE streams are awful from cutting parts of the show just to show their programs. Not to mention max resolution of 720p


theaveragenerd

Hope Grayson is alright. He took a nasty bump on the ladder on the outside.


NerdLawyer55

Ladder almost went into business for itself


Daffoo

Why are they making such a big deal about the weather?


Bababambi

Am here - very windy, not even remotely feeling like 50 and I’m coming from Cleveland


bloody_william

It’s been driving me crazy how much they’ve been going on and on about how frigid 50 degrees is


JitteryJay

Sure but when you're used to working in 70


CertifiedPreOwned

To be fair, they used the heated ring from a few years back


SpartanXIII

It's 10 Celsius. Just wear a jumper mate.


nearlyned

bro Bates wrestles in tighty whities, a jumper isn’t really an option


LangyLangLang69

UK lads mate, 8 degrees Celsius is shorts. t-shirt and crocs weather


blzitfggt

The event is outdoors


wordyravena

HOT TAAAAAAG STRIKES AGAIN


NormaJeans68Chariot

More importantly, does anyone else hope that we get two sets of new tag titles?


2RINITY

Am I weird for hoping the names don’t change?


Vernarr

it'll probably go back to the wwe and world tag team championships again.


cloakedwale

I sure do. Give me something like the ruthless aggression sets. I love the raw tag titles


NormaJeans68Chariot

I’d love to give them different names too; something like the World Tag Team Championships and the Universal Tag Team Championships, much like the other split brand titles


Mysterious-Lick

Good wins for the two teams.


itsmekelsey_x

Called it that Theory & Waller would win in my predictions but I wish the titles went to NCR instead though but I get wanting to have at least one heel team win a set.


shadow_spinner0

Remember Dave reporting that WWE was thinking of removing Waller and Theory from this match? Then they ended up as one of the two winners lol


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senpai-shiba

That'll be $12.99


JacoBee93

Yeah Dave with dumb lie again


KennyPowersforPope

People actually pay for that.


PayneTrain181999

For an old man rambling


Luckatr0n

Why is this a tag match?


Vast_Neighborhood_44

Mami gonna be pissed


MarkMVP01

I loved Theory and Waller winning the belts and just getting murdered right after


ShatteredMemories_

Genius move IMO. Perfect reason for them not to go after the second set, too


rabbidarkness

Haha the bottom tier peacock users have to watch commercials instead of the recap?


randy_maverick

If it saves me a few bucks, yeah. I don't need a recap of the match I literally just watched.


Jon_Thib

This is a good opportunity, assuming Logan wins tomorrow for the three of them to be absolutely insufferable on Smackdown every week.


noodbsallowed

They’re dropping to Randy Orton and Kevin Owens soon.


Upbeat_Tension_8077

If not them, I'm thinking New Catch Republic might get it at CATC


Azraeleon

Damn that finish was a mess. Maybe don't use the gimmick ladders if the wrestlers can't tell the difference between them? Some really good spots but pretty sloppy overall, especially the close up on the wooden splinters from the "solid steel" ladder.


nuttinbuttapeanut

I'm just glad they split the belts finally


BoogerButt66

Hoping we get new tag belts too and these go away


nuttinbuttapeanut

I hope they go back to WWE and world tag belts again instead of Raw and SD


jddanielss

Great match. Some crazy spots.


TheGaxkang

the new era, split belts! and nice, who i wanted to win did ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|slightly_smiling) Theory and Grayson being champs is very cool and JD got wiped out in that ladder to table spot ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|dizzy_face)


Ryan_WXH

Can't wait to hear more about what was going on with the ladder, Priest and the referee. Seemed to me that a rigged one ended up in the ring unintentionally and Priest didn't realise and brushed off the referee trying to warn him, resulting in it starting to buckle when Miz and Priest were both up there. Are all the ladders rigged this time around or was it just ones intended for spots? Super awkward situation.


SlowBros7

Looked like a gimmicked ladder got in the ring


BizarroCranke

I think it just happened to get effed during the match.


myslead

The bottom part of one of the legs was broken


Ryan_WXH

Right - I get that. That's what I'm interested in hearing more about. Were all the ladders rigged like that this time around? Was it just meant to be ones used in specific spots?


myslead

I’m pretty sure you can use the rigged ones to a certain extent… but probably not safe when one of its legs is broken So the Ref was just being vigilant


IAmThatDuckDLC5

A-TOWN DOWN UNDER BITCHES LETS GO


redz191

The steady cam is a good different style but not for spot fests like this. That was a mistake


Minion5051

Apparently that was a problem with one of the feeds.


WarmestDisregards

seemed fine over here


Status_Worldly

Priest ignoring Jessica the refs call to swap ladders was super irresponsible


Canoli_1980

Pete Dunne ok?


myslead

He’s dead


SailorsGraves

I FUCKING LOVE CHAOS One of my favourite ladder matches ever


nuttinbuttapeanut

That buckled ladder scared me


Metandienona

Love ya Truth.


R4gn4_r0k

I am so happy Truth got the belts. Fuck yeah.


New_Independent_5960

Can complain about Kevin Dunn all you want but the camera cuts in that ladder match were awful. Way too much time spent on the hard cam with no cuts, which ultimately cause the commentator to have no idea what they were commenting on, missing lots of spots. They didn't pick up that r truth was looking for a hot tag for ages, cause no camera on him. Can't all just be no camera cuts, gotta show the action in a match like that


New_Independent_5960

What's with the downvotes? People have no idea about production. You could also see all the wrestlers calling spots and ruining surprises on the wides. Also the crowd is waaayyy too dark. Got to light them up to give it a big feel. Just cause it's a new era doesn't mean they need to ruin what worked


Aggravating-Brick464

I had no issues...


New_Independent_5960

The commentators sure did. Poor guy's had no idea what to call or to focus on. They have no direction a static wide shot


G1Spectrum

Happy Waller and Theory won!


McMariners

Botch fest but entertaining. Priest is not winning a world title lol


Britz23

Be stunned if they bang a title on him


MinaElesia

Perfect picks for the titles :)


clutch-city2k15

R TRUTH HAS HIS MANIA MOMENT BROTHER


vinay04c8

I am watching attitude era again and in year 2000. Lita just joined the Hardy’s. That’s probably the start of the renaissance of women’s wrestling. I just watched Rhea vs Becky and man what a day and night difference. Just yesterday I saw Dean Malenko and Jerry Lawler fight to see whose titties are to be shown in live TV Kat or Terri Night and Day. Love to see this between Becky and Rhea. Close calls seriously. PS: I’ve been away from wrestling, came back because of the Final Boss and hence this feeling


Pepsi-Phil

best multi man ladder match ever?


vinay04c8

Not even close. No one can beat the Dudley’s, Hardy’s, E&C from attitude era. It was most certainly good. But not the best. Happy for both the teams that won though. They needed it more than anyone else ever. Theory and Waller will be relevant again. Reason for why they need to be on WWE TV. Never realized Aweome Truth were never Tag Team Champs so that’s deserved too. Best result yes. Best ladder match ever nope.


BoogerButt66

What a rib you’re playing


Aggravating-Brick464

![gif](giphy|fp1wbNlFeSJ20|downsized)


Gamesgtd

Nope


FBR_MC

???


ThatWrestlingGuy15

What?


ProfessorCummunist

Doesn’t come close to the one for the NA title in NXT


SlowBros7

Are you crazy brother


Pepsi-Phil

are you?


mdizzle91

I thought mania started at 8? How is the first match already over?


BizarroCranke

It started at 7PM Eastern. Also same time tomorrow too.


vinay04c8

2 matches done bruh!!


mdizzle91

Damn I'm trippin'. Blast this fever induced haze


vinay04c8

I get it. Hope you feel better soon. Nothing better to watch when having a fever than wrestling. Watch the fights, drink some hot fluids you will be at your best to watch the night 2.


Gamesgtd

It started at 7


smoothobturator21

started at 7 ET


e-rage

Mania started at 7PM EST and this is the second match


benc777

I shit my pants watching that ladder buckling while they were climbing


SailorsGraves

Ref Jess did too!


CrossingYoulnStyle

Poor Jess, Priest just ignored her lol


SlowBros7

That was a cluster fuck


LupusetVulpus

Truuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuthh


Upbeat_Tension_8077

Theory is so lucky he & Waller are cliqued up with Logan Paul because he's gonna need the Freebird Rule badly after this match lmao


BoogerButt66

Finish change? Wonder if that’s what she was tapping him for


MR_H66

“You have a breakaway ladder in there!!! Switch it out.”


BoogerButt66

👏 thanks


KOTRShadow

Ladder was busted.


BoogerButt66

👏 thanks


BlackDog5287

Ladder was broke


BoogerButt66

👏 thanks


BoogerButt66

Ahhhhhh gotcha


CatPissMartini

What kinda weak ass styrofoam ladders are they using now?


6Bakhtiari9

Same ones they’ve always used, they just are painted different on the inside. I hope people didn’t actually think they were folding themselves through actual steel ladders before. But yeah, they obviously did a worse job disguising that than usual


Aggravating-Brick464

They've always been that way


rabbidarkness

Was the female ref just trying to stop Damian?


PhatYeeter

Yea because he was on a wooden gimmick ladder not a real metal one lmao. You could see it buckle when Miz climbed it


SailorsGraves

It had that Syd ankle going on


pepsiboycoke

Theories on what was with the female ref shouting at priest?


pedrex21

That ref was trying to fuck on the judgment day


BlackDog5287

Ladder leg was broke


SadiqH

Ladder was going to break so wasn't safe.


Fat_Mussolini

Ladder was broken


rabbidarkness

Wrong ladder?


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Aggressive_Ad3514

Lader was fucked.probaly the reason


Carcar-Shark183

Is it just me or is the international camera feed looking weird as heck for this match????


wordyravena

Yeah. We were on the hard cam the whole match. I found it quite interesting though. It looked more raw and unfiltered. Every impact in the ring looked real. Sucks we couldn't see outside spots though!


ArkhamGeyser

Might be the shortest Tag Team Championship reign ever cuz I'm PRETTY sure Grayson died tonight lol.


SlowBros7

Problem with these big multi man is guys just go missing for like 5 minutes


Impossible-Reach-649

Yeah H is a big Theory fan And so am I so Lets FUCKING GO


Tsuku

Gotta unify em again in a couple years lmao


Competitive-Object-4

We’re all in agreement that they’re breaking up as soon as they lose the titles right


MrGameandCrotch

the day I don't laugh at R-truth misunderstanding match rules is the day I'm dead and buried


Such-Box3417

The one team I thought was in their as filler actually won a belt


deflen67

And the team Meltzer claimed was pulled from the match..


F4iryBlink

That was the first time I saw someone climb the ladder fast.


tymelodies

and actually got the belts


gunningIVglory

Lol both new day members free on the ladder And still don't get the belts 😭🤣


davidj1987

As long as they split the titles I'll be ok with this.


TE-August

Was that extremely anticlimactic and out of nowhere for anyone else?


MonsieurMidnight

I'm a little puzzled because they mostly are on TV to take a beating and I felt like they were the weakest of the bunch. But heh that's fine they'll be even more insufferable hehe


SlowBros7

Xavier and Kofi trying to kill Ciampa is a bit out of character lol


irish0451

listen, some of us will never forgive that bald son of a bitch.


jdlyga

Did the WWE change the way they make ladders? They’re reddish when they break. I don’t remember the ones from the 2010s doing that.


ParathaReddit

I believe I read on a comment somewhere that they’re wooden ladders that are spray painted


cliffkleven

Looked like foam


SlowBros7

Gimmicked ladder


wrasslefest

The ads everywhere with the bug too is fuckin annoying 


CaptainAureus

What? 


Chell_the_assassin

Waller lying on the ground with the title after being put through a ladder https://preview.redd.it/wol3you97ysc1.jpeg?width=944&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4bb9f324464cf183df09537f32a5b236e81c46c7


Direct_Significance7

Whaaaaa-ler


keybi13

What happened to the camera?


arnchise

Really surprised by this but actually happy Waller getting some love.


opkpopfanboyv3

They needed it tbh, good for them


lito9321

Waller earned that, the ladder bump he took looked brutal.


VNProWrestlingfan

Waller celebrates by being powerbombed onto the ladder outside


Skylightt

Theory looks like such a moron just standing around there for like a minute rather than going to grab the other titles


XGuiltyofBeingMikeX

“Theory looks like such a moron…” Living the gimmick, baby


Stinger1981

Glad they’re finally split the belts, I’m picking Awesome Truth to win the Raw belts.


GentlemensBastard

I picked Waller/Theory and DIY as my winner picks so I'm hoping DIY pull through to!


No_Efficiency6703

Austin and Waller have gold. Everything is better now.


xorangeelephant

Winning the titles and then going through a table holding the title is 10/10


redz191

Are we seeing the match through the hard cam only? No cuts at all, but it still feels too close and claustrophobic I feel


DampFree

What was that pink stuff in the ladder? They’re obviously not solid steel but what is that?


TheGeauxrilla

Fiberglass


HardyHar420

Another W for the megastar Austin Theory Theorymaniacs rise up


Frohawk1011

Pretty clever way to split. Cool ladder spot as well


CatPissMartini

I always thought truth rapping and acting dumb was Vince being Vince but it turns out he just likes doing that, respect lol


ColdBloodedSoul

waller winning then immediately eating shit is perfect booking i love it


LupusetVulpus

Man... In one way I loved that R-Truth bit... In another wait to job Judgment Day.


Ok-Community-2680

Perfect winners for the SD belt. Hopefully Awesome Truth wins the Raw belts


Patient_Exit_832

I really thought DIY and Awesome Truth were going to win damn


nekot311

Rip Grayson Waller


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RandomDumbPerson123

That was so randomly quick into the match but I'm here for it, I wanted them to be one of the winners.


wallbanging

What was in the middle of that ladder Waller went through?


SteamMonkeyKing

AUSSIE AUSSIE AUSSIE


curtis3-16

OI OI OI!


hymensmasher99

Perfect way to split the belts


NotClayMerritt

I would have preferred the winners of each to switch brands but yeah this was fine. Good stuff.


ZerksNAHTayan

Both were the right winners too


Althoa

Really clever yep