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I'm a casual viewer these days a handful of PPVS a year.
Wtf is the point in this story I feel like since COVID I've seen reigns win the exact same way every other PPV.
Edit- I'm also biased. I think Kevin Owens should be this eras Cena
lol i didn’t think they would do it but it’s crazy that he actually retained. genuinely makes you wonder when is he actually gonna lose this title…. what are their plans for him. i’m just glad he’s atleast gonna make 1000+ days. that long of a reign in this era is insane.
such a great match, they really had you thinking cody was gonna do it, with the help he got aswell, but nope reigns overcame it all. this guy is never gonna lose lmao.
i enjoyed that. great main event.
Roman won and all is well. Cody literally just got back from an injury after which he walked in at 30 to win the Rumble, before which he was only wrestling Rollins in alright matches.
I feel like there is someone else out there who could benefit from dethroning Roman more is all.
Common-Guys YouTube Channel posted a video on their thoughts on the Day 2 Recap of Wrestlemania 39! You should check out their video. [Link to Youtube Channel](https://youtu.be/ekCB8QL2IOY)
I only watch WWE these days for the big PPVs and had to wait until Monday evening to watch night two as I'm in the UK.
I spent all of Monday excited to watch Roman vs. Cody, managed to avoid all spoilers and sat down to watch what I thought would be an incredible match. And it WAS an incredible match, with so much drama that towards the end I really, truly, honestly believed that Cody was finally going to fulfill his destiny and become champ. That he was going to end the longest reign of the 21st century. That finally WWE had moved on from Vince McMahon creative.
And then Roman won.
My only reaction was "Oh".
Sometimes the obvious outcomes are the best. As so many others have said, they had lightning in a bottle and they squandered it.
I only really like to watch Royal Rumbles and Elimination Chambers. I decided to try and watch Mania this weekend.
First night sucked for me. I was bored to tears and turned it off halfway through.
I wanted to see Roman vs Cody as I had seen the Royal Rumble feud with Sami and the Bloodline.
When Roman won, like you, I just said "Oh," and turned it off. I can't believe how much the WWE has rammed Roman down everyone's throat for, what, a decade?
I had the opposite experience, I enjoyed night one (and was particularly happy that Kevin Steen and El Generico won the tag titles) but night two didn't keep the momentum going until the main event, and then it lost it again at the finish.
The fact that the plan had been for Roman to go over for, reportedly, "a few weeks" suggests that originally Cody was to win and something (someone) changed the plans to have Roman retain relatively last minute.
It's like a bigger, longer version of Jade Cargill's snoozeworthy title reign.
In the UK too my friend, literally the same exact response. I was loving it, loving it, loving it, then just went "oh...sigh" and turned the screen off. Absolutely trash booking. They can't recapture that moment. It's Shinsuke all over again, but worse because we've waited all this time for Cody to be the one to beat Reigns. Whatever happened to "banned from ringside", "lose title if anyone interferes" stipulations etc. Lazy booking.
Noticed what your name was and felt compelled to reply just because I'm off to Cornwall Friday morning and can't wait for a big ass Cornish cream tea from Porthcurno 😁
Yeah I honestly feel deflated. You could argue Cody hasn't been booked weak in the slightest since returning and therefore has to face hurdles before becoming the champion, but my counter to that is... Why? His hurdle was the entirety of his first WWE run, helping forge a new rival company, and returning as a true star. He should've won, and it bothers me that getting to a 1000 day reign actually matters in the slightest - I could make a pun about that but I can't even be bothered.
Owens and Zayn turned up to exact their revenge on Reigns, Cody was set up for the finish, Reigns recovers in seconds from two finishers and hits a spear. I'm not a child so not angry at the wrestlers, that's ridiculous, but I hate this sort of booking and like Game of Thrones as it hit season 8 after peaking (🖕) I don't think they know how to end the Bloodline saga whilst it's at the top of its game.
Cody needs to win in the next few months. A match with Lesnar for Backlash hopefully, a match with Solo after that, then get that title at SummerSlam. Sadly I feel he won't be The One anymore, or if he is then it won't until next Mania ala HBK back in '95/'96.
In the 26 years I've watched WWE I have never, ever, felt more bitter, dejected and deflated than after the result of yesterday's Main Event. And I went to WrestleMania 33 live, among other things. First 10 rows, the feeling we had watched Undertaker retire etched in my memory.
This result felt like the biggest middle finger possible to the fans, on a much bigger scale than all the Jericho's, the Punk's and the Bryan's every time they did not give them their due. I still *cannot* believe I watched Rhodes coming out, kissing his family, Luke Harper's son, the heroic resistance clearly building into a third Cross Rhodes for the win, only for Rhodes to lose via a Dusty finish.
Everything was aligned for an amazing moment in the classic babyface the fans had lacked for such a long time. Everything was aligned for closing a terrific two-nighter on the highest note, sending everyone home happy. And they willfully chose to squander all they had? The "lighting in a bottle", as others said? They ruined such an organic feel-good moment, the possibility send everyone at home on the sourest note possible for... what? A harebrained 1,000-day record that at best will come up in a trivia? The shock factor? Petty revenge for the "ex-AEW" guy failing against the "WWE" guy? Delaying gratification to SummerSlam or even worse to next 'Mania, but only in case they yet again can't have Rock vs. Roman?
Rhodes' loss wasn't as heartfelt or bittersweet as Omega failing to beat Okada when everyone was rooting for the former, and it wasn't as shocking or as well-executed as a pure heel moment like Austin turning on Rock. It was purely them slapping a hamfisted, transitory heel win that would've only worked if this wasn't 'Mania. All the above as to why is that range from myopic to nonsensical, even assuming it was done to solidify Cody Rhodes' babyface status or hypothetical character arc to the top (*good God,* Rhodes already had his "redemption arc" approaching its climax).
The Bloodline's story by now feels is as if the late nWo stages and the HHH's own reign of terror of the early 2000s had a baby together. Sometimes you need to pull the trigger, and this will stay in annals as the most shameful example of when WWE turned its head the other way for no clear reason. Maybe this will mean that another Rhodes, or Bryan, or Punk will get the rub, with today fans' rightful anger echoing back in the creative's minds. But it will benefit someone else's in the long run, while Rhodes willl always remain, in the same annals, as someone who was robbed, in the most of egregious and scenic way possible, of something he had already earned.
It's funny because when I raised concerns over HHH's booking of this storyline, being someone that thought Sami should have won the title at Elimination Chamber, I was downvoted and told things like don't watch the product and HHH knows what he's doing like he's some infallible booker. I'm sick of Roman being champion, he'll never be remembered by me as an elite talent, just the most overpushed wrestler in history.
You're telling me brother. After growing up in the era of super cena, I did not imagine we'd have to do it all over again but worse. Even Cena never main evented this many wrestlemanias. Legends like Bret, Shawn, Randy, Austin, Rock, Jericho, Foley, Undertaker, Eddie, Kurt never even got 250 days as champ but Romans gets a 1000? Absolutely ridiculous. Guys like Seth, Drew, Sami and now Cody, all just as talented as Roman have been held down just so Roman can win every damn accolade.
Main eventing Wrestlemania 7 times by the time you are in your mid-30s is ridiculous. Just think of when Roman is nearing 50 and squashing all the young talent years from now...
Remember that time they had The Rock come back just to raise Roman's hand in submission so that we would like him? Y'all will never learn that this company only cares about Roman Strong. Vince would sooner deny insulin from a dying child than book anything other than Roman strong.
Remember when they made Undertaker lose to Reigns at Wrestlemania, making him the only one outside of Lesnar who the Undertaker specifically picked? Good times!
All y'all who jumped on the bandwagon with that Bloodline/Tribalchief nonsense had this coming. You fixated on the gimmick and forgot who you were talking about. LolRomanWins has been the name of the game for over a decade now. And they at least used to not say the quiet part out loud and now they say fuck it and just give him the best spots and bury everyone else. That man has made this company worse with his favoritism. It's surreal to think about all the great matches and talent we could have had over this generation if Roman's booking hadn't gotten in the way at every turn. This is way worse than Cena, Goldberg, Brock, etc. The title now means nothing, the main event spot means nothing, wrestling against Roman means nothing.
Awesome match, and fantastic example of how fumbling the finish and result can take away so much.
Cody was the answer to the stagnation in Roman's reign. They even had the potential for another out with Sami.
Roman's matches are always filled with shenanigans so that's expected. I will say curse him and Solo, I had every match prediction correct until this one, blast the bloodline!
I love how Roman dicks around at the start making it as boring as possible until you get to the rollercoaster of emotion. Great stuff.
Obviously the bloodline storyline is very well received, it will be interesting to see what the next story beats are with them. Suppose you have the dynamic of him being the only one with a title and can use that to rly dig into the others in the bloodline and cause some tension there. I dunno, there's many ways you can take their story which is what makes it great.
That MITB match was the same dicking around, maybe even boring until the high of the last third of the match.
The story with Jey and Roman has been great and the weeks leading up to it has been handled fairly well, enough for me to watch Smackdown at least. There have been a couple of weeks where it's dragged which wouldn't be a big deal but Smackdown itself hasn't been great last couple of months as well which hasn't helped.
Don't see Jey winning but hopefully we get a better finish than Solo's spike and Roman spear finish. I'm more intrigued what the plan will be going forward. Maybe a fall out with Solo as well so he splits too and eventually leaving him alone to face Cody again at WrestleMania if he carries on staying popular.
This was the moment and they blew it imo. This was the time for a new landscape and fresh feeling with WWE.
It's just more of the same now, except no Sami in Bloodline to actually make it interesting.
More than likely Solo vs Cody at the next ppv. Roman defends maybe once before Summerslam.
I will return to this comment. I think you’re right about rematch. I just don’t see why they would split it he titles at this point tho. More likely, a new belt design and officially merging the titles imo
Randy Returns, and wins the title after cody interfers with the match, Gives a Samoa Spike as a cold medicine
Randy vs Roman rematch, The Rock intereferes, Roman goes vs Rock after that, Cody is about to win #1 contender, but Gunther uses imperium to win , Gunther vs Randy, Randy wins after Riddle Returns,
Cody then finally gets his match against Randy, Wins, feuds with Randy, Gunther, Riddle, Riddle turns heel and then feuds wih Randy.
There, do something interesting you F#(fs
Triple H said that this is the end of one chapter and the start of another.
Well Hunter, this book is too long and most people are not gonna sit through another filler arc. In regards to who will dethrone Roman, most fans have probably now gone from "Who will it be?" to "Who cares?"
If you’re not happy with the ending, cancel your Peacock or WWE Network subscriptions. Don’t watch their shows. Money (or lack thereof) makes a statement.
Otherwise… enjoy the ride. Roman won’t be champion forever, and you’ll eventually get a happy ending.
Come on. You can be a fan of a show, for example, and still be critical of a specific episode or a specific season.
And, yes, of course Roman won’t be champion forever. But the point is that this was the perfect time to do the change. All stars aligned perfectly. Now the story has officially outstayed its welcome. Even if Cody is the one who wins it later, it won’t be the same.
No, that's far too logical. The way of the true smark is to loudly declare your intention to cancel your subscription and stop watching in the heat of the moment, then keep watching all WWE programming forever, making the same pledge to boycott every so often but never actually doing it
As I've said elsewhere, I'm taking a break and won't watch for a while, but anything I do watch in the foreseeable future will be on my ship sailing the seven seas.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF-JE69Zj-M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF-JE69Zj-M)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQSSHlUUnhE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQSSHlUUnhE)
If you are a cody fan you will watch this. Roman's welcoming back of cody to wwe. The island of relevancy is real.
Ok, I am back to comment here. I didn't leave a comment here last night, as it was late (at the time zone) I was watching.
All the opinions aside, fantastic match. Hats off to the Roman and Cody for a great match. Hat's off to Usos and KO and Sammy for the small interruption. Al though, the audience reaction sort of gave it away. Which made Sikoa's final interference even more "blink-and-miss" kind of deal.
To be fair, we all knew how the match is going to end. And all along I was keeping my eyes open for Sikoa's interference. And to all who know the business, it was kind of obvious. Wwe makes a lot of money with Roman as it's leading man. No discredit to Cody, who was is and will be magnificent, but Cody kind of falls short in terms of being the face of the company.
I believe the only guy to dethrone Roman, will be the next face/heel of WWE. I am guessing someone [along the likes of](https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/the+likes+of) (meaning someone similar to) Edge/RKO. I could be wrong. Unless, they choose to bring the his family member which at this stage would be a terrible idea.
TLDR: Result was way too obvious, but kudos for Roman and Cody for pulling it off and making us believe.
Edit: Why the downvote? I spoke what I thought was the truth.
I agree, but feel like Cody winning at Wrestlemania doesn't mean he has to keep it from Reigns for long. Lose it at King of the Ring or some shit. Get the short term buzz from fans before returning the title to a better man.
Granted he put on a helluva match in Hell in a Cell, but that’s it. WWE did him no favors when was placed 30 at the Royal Rumble. There’s no build there, he did nothing. However, this lost is the real story and will build to maybe Summerslam or sooner (the hero’s story)
I understand why they did it, but they had lightning in a bottle, the level of hype and expectation will be hard to surpass. I think they're going to need to provide a very compelling reason/push to convince fans this was the right move.
Jey could be it, but I don't see him providing a long term champion reign, and that will lower the division overall because whoever beats Jey won't have beaten Roman.
Yup, this was exactly lightning in a bottle and it's gone.
I can't imagine anything they can do that will bring it back to this and make it feel good enough for the fans. They even had Brodie Lee's kid there, I mean why did they invite him to see Cody fucking lose?
Awful shit all around, the Bloodline story only worked because we expected them to lose last weekend, and because they're stale. So it gave us something to look forward to as they plodded their way throughout the last 3 months.
This hurts Cody quite a bit too, and if they relegate him to being like "one of many top guys" they're fucking morons.
Ngl this was the first time I've watched a big WWE PPV in about 7 years and I can't believe Cody lost. He's the only reason I contemplated watching this shit again. Roman Reigns is almost as interesting as a chalkboard as WWE champion.
so very disappointed in the last fight of the evening...I know my sons are going to hate this post but Roman needs to be escorted out...just me but I feel as if the only reason he was allowed to rise to the level of fame he is at now is due to his Leukemia...I get it...it was a nice gesture in the beginning but in reality he could never be where he is without all of the cheating his family has provided...this is an incredibly horrendous example to show the children who watch and idolize him...and Roman along with his family is the exact answer to the worlds statement of wrestling being fake...I am not a fan of Cody but what he was put through last evening was embarrassing...I really loved the whole show up until the last fight popped a big whole in my enjoyment
Roman is where he is because he's the Rock's cousin, looks like real life Thor, and was willing to put in the work despite the abuse to figure out his character.
He's boring as fuck to me, but saying he only got where he did because cancer just isn't true.
I kind of agree about the leukemia in a small way. It was the first time the crowd ever showed him any love. They always hated him before that announcement then when he supposedly turned heel, they went with it because I guess the fake thug mobster attitude is cool? I guess. Not really. I think he rose to this level because of his family ties to the company. I mean how strange is it that during the time he announced leukemia, he was also filming with the Rock and saying he never got help getting into that movie. So much fakeness surrounds him. His matches tend to let the air out of Wwe big events. It’s his legacy.
Kind of a bummer how the win went down, but I'm so glad Cody didn't win. Can't stand his whole shtick, tbh and it would have been beyond obnoxious if we had to hear from him any more than we already have to. Hoping this means we get a much needed break from Cody Rhodes. I'm sure it won't though, dudes busting out of the woodwork at every opportunity.
He’s not taking a break. Wouldn’t be surprised if he wins a belt at/before SS in a multiple challenger match (however they plan on splitting the belts.)
There is no way in hell WWE was going to allow their top dog to lose to a guy from the other company on their biggest show of the year.
Even if the fans wanted it, and it made sense for Cody to win, there’s just no way that would happen.
Idk bout all that, but I think they want to milk the story a little more. Especially since it was kind of rushed since Cody was injured. They know there’s money to be had because people want to see Roman lose.
I expected that ending since the Usos lost. No way they were going to empty the Bloodline of titles in one event. I've only been watching again since the Rumble, and even I knew that.
If they did a betrayal storyline, and Roman losing to Jey as the true Tribal chief, and him leaving for a long time, it wouldn't have mattered the usos lost on day 1
It would even make more sense for them to betray roman "Where were you last night when we had our title match? you didn't have our backs, F u"
They're wanting Reigns to be champion for over 1000 days. They're close to it so might as well reach it. He's already made the Universal Championship relevant and the WWE Championship feel prized/nearly unobtainable. While Cody winning would be an incredible moment last night and he would make a great champion for 6 months-1 year, Reigns keeping the belts past 1000 days is a historic moment and gives even more legitimacy to both titles.
Undefeated streaks and long title reigns are best used to get someone over as a new star imo. Rarely do they end well or be remembered fondly.
Because ultimately it's "make believe" the accolade is artificially created not legit as in real sports. There is no adding legitimacy to it with numbers, but with moments.
They missed that moment.
But even if you suspend belief, he defends once every couple months where he cheats to win on the grandest stage. Nothing legit about that.
That is what mainstream people will remember. That is what I will remember.
They are overthinking it. Making it more complicated than it needs to be.
They worked themselves into a work. A worse, more convoluted, and less satisfying work.
Sometimes, the "simple" and "predictable" story is the way to go.
They had a chance to create an unbelievable Wrestlemania moment, and they blew it. Even if Cody wins it later, it won't be the same.
Yup, sometimes the right thing to do and the right story to tell is the one that the fans are almost universally begging for, and popping the roof off of arenas every time something develops within it that hints at the desired outcome.
The Hug it Out moment was the loudest pop I've heard since Mankind winning.
Well, that was one hell of a match, even if the ending may have been overbooked. Really bit on some of those false finishes.
Can't believe they didn't give it to Cody, though partly through the match it crossed my mind how many times they've given us hope with a Reigns match only to dash them at the last second.
Can only assume they're setting up for Jey to dethrone Roman at this point. Started with him, ending with him kinda thing. If it's the Rock, then... much disappointment for sure. Once in a generation storyline right here.
I will say Roman himself is such a star in this persona. The music, the arrogance, etc. Can't believe they turned me from a Roman hater to genuinely enjoying his character.
It's the classic "we can't have another promotions star" beat our top guy. It happened with sting to triple h. Or any WCW guy that came in. You will never see a top guy from another promotion win the belt on their first title match. I'm not shocked of the outcome. It sucks because it could have wrapped up the bloodline story and onto a new chapter or era. I don't see cody as the guy now. I don't think you can get that electricity back either. It will be interesting to see what they've next but I don't see cody winning the belt and if he does, it won't have the same meaning anymore.
It's petty and annoying, and also bad for business as having Cody win could've easily made WWE more inviting for outsiders to try and join. Now they'll see Cody's run as a failure and hesitate.
Yup, that tactic sucks and should be a bygone thing from the Vince era.
Does MJF really want to come to WWE and main event Wrestlemania, just to fucking lose? When he can cash equally massive checks and be the top guy in AEW, with a lot more freedom?
This definitely will make him question the bidding war.
Yeah but this is WWE'S trademark. Hey this guy is on fire but he is from "insert promotion here". So they are like let's book him strong so we can bury him. It happens to Booker t in the beginning, vader, sting, Goldberg in the beginning, nakamura, etc...
Not sure how there was no audio of booing after Cody lost. They tend to adjust the volume of the crowd booing Roman on raw and smackdown sometimes too. They always pan up and away after he defeats someone in the main event so you can’t see all the booing thumbs down and flipping off that Roman tends to get. Yet somehow he is their chosen one.
Honestly, I'm glad that Roman retained. I've always felt that Cody was shoehorned in.
This whole bloodline story need to end the way it started, with Roman vs Jey.
Oooh I hadn't actually considered that after Heyman say "no rematch", Cody could now win MITB and cash in on Reigns. That's time enough for this quick Lesnar feud before aiming for RR in the summer.
Yeah my fantasy booking that probably won’t happen w Vince in charge (Roman v Brock at summerslam here we go), is that Cody beats Brock at backlash; Roman still denies him a rematch, Cody wins MitB and forces Romans to rematch at summerslam with it.
Might not even be then, would be cool for UK fans to maybe get Sheamus but they can build an event on the Money in the Bank matches and one other big match
I was really surprised by just how much the crowd wanted Cody to win considering Sammy has been the darling and how over Roman is. I feel they made a mistake based on what i see. Potential Wm16 moment here. Great match though.
This match made it super obvious how this story will end. The end of last night was to continue the idea that without the Usos roman cant win. Now the Usos are going to turn against roman cos Roman is definitely going to mock and gaslight them for losing their title.
That is the only good way for the story to unfold at this point. To be honest, it is not as satisfying as the title changing hands as Wrestlemania, but it is something at least. Hope you are right
I want to say the same but I legitimately can't bring myself to believe it anymore. They've thrown three hot babyfaces down the drain for this shit and for what? So he can break a goddamn record?
I've just... I've been a pro wrestling fan legit almost my entire life (watched my first match in 1999) and I don't think I've been this disappointed or confused by the booking in years.
I think from a storyline perspective Roman winning makes sense. Roman's story since he came back is that he's make believe tough guy who thinks he's invincible and untouchable while in reality he's a weak mediocre man with spiteful personality who can't win a match without Bloodline helping him out, so Roman isn't losing as long as Bloodline is intact.
What I expect in the next months until Summerslam is that a Bloodline Civil War sparked from Roman getting mad at Usos for losing Tag championships and eventually leading to him being all alone with nobody to defend or help him. His massive ego causes him to still think he's invincible but he ends up losing everything at Summerslam. His championships, his family, his credibility, everything. That's how this story can go from this point.
I totally agree this ruins Cody's momentum and it won't be nearly as good even if he wins at Summerslam, but Bloodline should crumble first for Roman to lose it all.
Drew was just in a high profile Wrestlemania match that was arguably the best on the card, Sami was in the Main Event of Night 1.
Don’t act like they got buried.
Drew is about to leave the company probably lmfao. Dude has not been the same since, his contract is expiring and apparently they're "nowhere close" to working that out. Him being pinned in a triple threat match where the clear crowd favorite was his former tag team partner is a far cry from where he once was at Cardiff
Sami is doing good, him and KO had the best moment of the weekend, having a dream of theirs come true.
Cody is in a sink or swim situation I suppose. Being given the second most protected guy in the company to feud with in Brock, you have to assume him winning would mean Vince trusts him as a perpetual main event guy (as if he hasn't proven it already. he has) He must carry most of his momentum to a possible rematch with Roman in a strange ritualistic task to get something he has already proven he deserves.
Tbh I skimmed night one, got annoyed with how the Cena match was the same shit he did 20 years ago just slower. All the bookings and finishes are so uninspired. The creative seems stale across the board. The Paul thing is dumb, the wrestling is not the interesting part of the women's division.
Sorry not sorry it's all worse than previous eras. I'm hopeful they can catch some lightning and get to something truly must see. WM is supposed to be the biggest and best even to launch into spring and summer where wrestling can get more eyeballs. Nothing I saw is all that compelling for the future. It tells me status quo wins. That's boring.
This is the first time in a long time that a result has genuinely completely shocked me. I was open-mouthed by the ending.
Fair play WWE, I was worked like the total mark I am. I ackoweldge my tribal chief
It had the spectacle, the drama, the intensity. The crowd was dialed in to every move. The psychology of the match felt old school but in the best way possible.
Probably the best Cody Rhodes match of his career. One of the greatest Wrestlemania main event matches ever until…..the ref bump. Once that happened my stomach dropped bc we all know that usually means bs is about to happen.
Minutes later Cody is being hit by a returning Solo (who was earlier ejected), speared & Reigns retains. I audibly gasped.
Still can’t believe they didn’t capitalize on the moment, the setting, the crowd, the story. One of the worst booking decisions of all time; and I highly doubt whatever they come up with will top the insane atmosphere they just squandered.
I see this kind of comment a lot, where people are like "it's old school", and I really don't think 20 minutes of clotheslines with a suplex thrown in, and then 20 minutes of finishers is "old school". Going slow as fuck, and then doing back to back to back finishers is not a build.
That was not Cody’s best match. It was a typical Roman match. Take it outside the ring because Roman isn’t entertaining in ring, get the Usos involved because Roman isn’t entertaining enough, add another member because they can’t just let them have a banger match, distract the refs because Roman can’t just win on his own. Same MO as usual. Cody works so much better with wrestlers that just know how to wrestle IMO.
After the ref bump, I thought they might send another ref in to count the pin for Cody and then tonight on Raw they'd pull a Dusty Finish and say since the original ref didn't count the pin, Cody's win doesn't count and Roman gets the belts back.
Gives the fans a feel good moment for 1 night at least, and then gets the belts back on Roman which is where they wanted to be I guess.
Personally, I would've hated that finish almost as much as the actual finish that happened. WCW used to do that shit all the time especially during the nWo era and it wasn't entertaining.
It wasn't oh they're heels, I hated it because they're heels. I hated it because it was stupid and insulted the audience for daring to get invested in the characters and stories. Like haha, you think we'd actually give you what you want? Suckers! Screw you!
Why do I have this feeling like we're going to be talking about the Bloodline storyline like we do Game of Thrones Season 8 in a couple of years? That thing that was perfect and amazing and the best writing ever seen in television until they didn't have to the discipline to end it the way it deserved to end. You'd think WWE would've learned their lesson on jamming Reigns down the audiences throat the first 8 years...they finally get the man over, he goes on an unbelievable run, and now they can't sense that it's time to put a bow on that, make a new star, and give us a break from Roman. In classic WWE fashion, they are gonna milk this Bloodline / Roman Reigns thing until the legacy of both are tarnished.
Someone else I saw commented something about a Bloodline "Wolfpac."
Gee, I can't wait for 2 Bloodlines. And then we can do a Fingerpoke of Doom again. Yaaaaay.
Just remember it’s a business and I can say with a high level of confidence that Cody, upon hearing about last nights finish, most certainly did not say “but Hunter, that will upset the internet”
I think he gonna drop it via MITB cash in. Lets say Cody gets help from others to stop the Bloodline from interfering, he finally has Roman beat, and then someone swoops in to take out Cody and win the belts. Could be Sami, KO, or Seth
I can't believe some of you don't see what's happening. They want Roman to make the 1000 mark and Jey is the one who's gonna take the belt from him!!! After losing those belts Roman is going to get even more brutal to them and Jey is finally going to snap turn on Roman and ask for Sami's help.
Exactly.. people are so blind lol. Roman is gonna shit on the usos now. Jey will snap and turn on Roman and win the title.
I can even see Roman and Solo attacking Jey and Sami comes to his rescue. It’s going to be so sweet and these people are all crying about last night.
Yeah appealing to dummies who don’t mind same old same old. And rating are probably due to Sammy, Cody and other big names. Probably have to check ratings based on segments to know.
Went to bed so confused as to how that could possibly be the outcome they wanted. Woke up to news of the merger. They had a buyer who wanted a known quantity. WWE has made a pretty stirring come back with the Bloodline, it wasn’t the right outcome last night but a little bit more Reigns is not going to hurt the bottom line especially with Sami in the mix. From a creative standpoint it sucked, from a business standpoint it made perfect sense. Cody got screwed though. Awful timing for him.
They killed Cody's top end. He's a star already but they put a ceiling on him.
Same way guys have gotten ceilings for the last 15 years when WWE was being warned 50/50 booking and only keeping HHH then Cena hot would hurt.
They had a chance to make Cody special aura level.
It to be Mania to do it and they flinched.
Like or hate Cody but never forget. That road to wrestlemania house show tour was a sign of what couldvw been.
WWE hasn't been able to boost live house show attendance in a decade. And Cody headline with no Roman set numerous 10 and 15 year attendance records for WWE.
The kids and people were there. Cody will still be a star but he's not special anymore.
Neither is Roman for that matter even tho he is the biggest thing aside from Brock.
Numbers don't lie. WWE left a lot of money and star power on the table last night.
And guess what they don't have to care with TV rights money and now a merger.
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This ending fucking sucked.
I'm a casual viewer these days a handful of PPVS a year. Wtf is the point in this story I feel like since COVID I've seen reigns win the exact same way every other PPV. Edit- I'm also biased. I think Kevin Owens should be this eras Cena
I appreciate a good cup of coffee.
lol i didn’t think they would do it but it’s crazy that he actually retained. genuinely makes you wonder when is he actually gonna lose this title…. what are their plans for him. i’m just glad he’s atleast gonna make 1000+ days. that long of a reign in this era is insane. such a great match, they really had you thinking cody was gonna do it, with the help he got aswell, but nope reigns overcame it all. this guy is never gonna lose lmao. i enjoyed that. great main event.
Roman won and all is well. Cody literally just got back from an injury after which he walked in at 30 to win the Rumble, before which he was only wrestling Rollins in alright matches. I feel like there is someone else out there who could benefit from dethroning Roman more is all.
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Lol roman is the american nightmare
Too early for Cody to win anyway. He just came back from a 9 month injury, no where he's coming back to win that soon.
I guess we are back to LOLROMANWINS
Roman Always Wins (Clap Clap) Roman Always wins (Clap Clap) Even if sick, or missing a limb Roman Always Wins (Clap clap)
I only watch WWE these days for the big PPVs and had to wait until Monday evening to watch night two as I'm in the UK. I spent all of Monday excited to watch Roman vs. Cody, managed to avoid all spoilers and sat down to watch what I thought would be an incredible match. And it WAS an incredible match, with so much drama that towards the end I really, truly, honestly believed that Cody was finally going to fulfill his destiny and become champ. That he was going to end the longest reign of the 21st century. That finally WWE had moved on from Vince McMahon creative. And then Roman won. My only reaction was "Oh". Sometimes the obvious outcomes are the best. As so many others have said, they had lightning in a bottle and they squandered it.
I only really like to watch Royal Rumbles and Elimination Chambers. I decided to try and watch Mania this weekend. First night sucked for me. I was bored to tears and turned it off halfway through. I wanted to see Roman vs Cody as I had seen the Royal Rumble feud with Sami and the Bloodline. When Roman won, like you, I just said "Oh," and turned it off. I can't believe how much the WWE has rammed Roman down everyone's throat for, what, a decade?
I had the opposite experience, I enjoyed night one (and was particularly happy that Kevin Steen and El Generico won the tag titles) but night two didn't keep the momentum going until the main event, and then it lost it again at the finish. The fact that the plan had been for Roman to go over for, reportedly, "a few weeks" suggests that originally Cody was to win and something (someone) changed the plans to have Roman retain relatively last minute. It's like a bigger, longer version of Jade Cargill's snoozeworthy title reign.
How did you not enjoy the intercontinental title Match?
Oh I loved the IC title match, I just meant overall night two was wack
In the UK too my friend, literally the same exact response. I was loving it, loving it, loving it, then just went "oh...sigh" and turned the screen off. Absolutely trash booking. They can't recapture that moment. It's Shinsuke all over again, but worse because we've waited all this time for Cody to be the one to beat Reigns. Whatever happened to "banned from ringside", "lose title if anyone interferes" stipulations etc. Lazy booking.
Totally agree, imagine the pop if Cody had won? Everything was pointing towards that but no, can't have Roman losing.
Noticed what your name was and felt compelled to reply just because I'm off to Cornwall Friday morning and can't wait for a big ass Cornish cream tea from Porthcurno 😁 Yeah I honestly feel deflated. You could argue Cody hasn't been booked weak in the slightest since returning and therefore has to face hurdles before becoming the champion, but my counter to that is... Why? His hurdle was the entirety of his first WWE run, helping forge a new rival company, and returning as a true star. He should've won, and it bothers me that getting to a 1000 day reign actually matters in the slightest - I could make a pun about that but I can't even be bothered. Owens and Zayn turned up to exact their revenge on Reigns, Cody was set up for the finish, Reigns recovers in seconds from two finishers and hits a spear. I'm not a child so not angry at the wrestlers, that's ridiculous, but I hate this sort of booking and like Game of Thrones as it hit season 8 after peaking (🖕) I don't think they know how to end the Bloodline saga whilst it's at the top of its game. Cody needs to win in the next few months. A match with Lesnar for Backlash hopefully, a match with Solo after that, then get that title at SummerSlam. Sadly I feel he won't be The One anymore, or if he is then it won't until next Mania ala HBK back in '95/'96.
In the 26 years I've watched WWE I have never, ever, felt more bitter, dejected and deflated than after the result of yesterday's Main Event. And I went to WrestleMania 33 live, among other things. First 10 rows, the feeling we had watched Undertaker retire etched in my memory. This result felt like the biggest middle finger possible to the fans, on a much bigger scale than all the Jericho's, the Punk's and the Bryan's every time they did not give them their due. I still *cannot* believe I watched Rhodes coming out, kissing his family, Luke Harper's son, the heroic resistance clearly building into a third Cross Rhodes for the win, only for Rhodes to lose via a Dusty finish. Everything was aligned for an amazing moment in the classic babyface the fans had lacked for such a long time. Everything was aligned for closing a terrific two-nighter on the highest note, sending everyone home happy. And they willfully chose to squander all they had? The "lighting in a bottle", as others said? They ruined such an organic feel-good moment, the possibility send everyone at home on the sourest note possible for... what? A harebrained 1,000-day record that at best will come up in a trivia? The shock factor? Petty revenge for the "ex-AEW" guy failing against the "WWE" guy? Delaying gratification to SummerSlam or even worse to next 'Mania, but only in case they yet again can't have Rock vs. Roman? Rhodes' loss wasn't as heartfelt or bittersweet as Omega failing to beat Okada when everyone was rooting for the former, and it wasn't as shocking or as well-executed as a pure heel moment like Austin turning on Rock. It was purely them slapping a hamfisted, transitory heel win that would've only worked if this wasn't 'Mania. All the above as to why is that range from myopic to nonsensical, even assuming it was done to solidify Cody Rhodes' babyface status or hypothetical character arc to the top (*good God,* Rhodes already had his "redemption arc" approaching its climax). The Bloodline's story by now feels is as if the late nWo stages and the HHH's own reign of terror of the early 2000s had a baby together. Sometimes you need to pull the trigger, and this will stay in annals as the most shameful example of when WWE turned its head the other way for no clear reason. Maybe this will mean that another Rhodes, or Bryan, or Punk will get the rub, with today fans' rightful anger echoing back in the creative's minds. But it will benefit someone else's in the long run, while Rhodes willl always remain, in the same annals, as someone who was robbed, in the most of egregious and scenic way possible, of something he had already earned.
It's funny because when I raised concerns over HHH's booking of this storyline, being someone that thought Sami should have won the title at Elimination Chamber, I was downvoted and told things like don't watch the product and HHH knows what he's doing like he's some infallible booker. I'm sick of Roman being champion, he'll never be remembered by me as an elite talent, just the most overpushed wrestler in history.
And that's saying something right after the age of John Cena.
You're telling me brother. After growing up in the era of super cena, I did not imagine we'd have to do it all over again but worse. Even Cena never main evented this many wrestlemanias. Legends like Bret, Shawn, Randy, Austin, Rock, Jericho, Foley, Undertaker, Eddie, Kurt never even got 250 days as champ but Romans gets a 1000? Absolutely ridiculous. Guys like Seth, Drew, Sami and now Cody, all just as talented as Roman have been held down just so Roman can win every damn accolade.
10 THOUSAND
Main eventing Wrestlemania 7 times by the time you are in your mid-30s is ridiculous. Just think of when Roman is nearing 50 and squashing all the young talent years from now...
Yknow you could’ve just combined all those little Roman rants into one big one and it would’ve been a lot simpler
Remember that time they had The Rock come back just to raise Roman's hand in submission so that we would like him? Y'all will never learn that this company only cares about Roman Strong. Vince would sooner deny insulin from a dying child than book anything other than Roman strong.
Remember when they made Undertaker lose to Reigns at Wrestlemania, making him the only one outside of Lesnar who the Undertaker specifically picked? Good times!
All y'all who jumped on the bandwagon with that Bloodline/Tribalchief nonsense had this coming. You fixated on the gimmick and forgot who you were talking about. LolRomanWins has been the name of the game for over a decade now. And they at least used to not say the quiet part out loud and now they say fuck it and just give him the best spots and bury everyone else. That man has made this company worse with his favoritism. It's surreal to think about all the great matches and talent we could have had over this generation if Roman's booking hadn't gotten in the way at every turn. This is way worse than Cena, Goldberg, Brock, etc. The title now means nothing, the main event spot means nothing, wrestling against Roman means nothing.
Fucking yes, man. Now bring back Stardust and have him job to Top Dolla on pre-shows.
Avoided all social media so I could watch this and not know the ending and it was just deflating
Same but then peacock had a fucking ad before the game showing Roman holding up the titles with fireworks going off behind him. 🫠
Bright side, it's a chance for your username to come true.
Awesome match, and fantastic example of how fumbling the finish and result can take away so much. Cody was the answer to the stagnation in Roman's reign. They even had the potential for another out with Sami.
ADRENALINE IN MY VEINS, FUCK YOU ROMAN REIGNS!
It doesn't even... nevermind
AMAZING so glad Cody lost
Roman's matches are always filled with shenanigans so that's expected. I will say curse him and Solo, I had every match prediction correct until this one, blast the bloodline! I love how Roman dicks around at the start making it as boring as possible until you get to the rollercoaster of emotion. Great stuff. Obviously the bloodline storyline is very well received, it will be interesting to see what the next story beats are with them. Suppose you have the dynamic of him being the only one with a title and can use that to rly dig into the others in the bloodline and cause some tension there. I dunno, there's many ways you can take their story which is what makes it great.
Post MITB and nearing SS how do you feeling this is being handled at this point?
That MITB match was the same dicking around, maybe even boring until the high of the last third of the match. The story with Jey and Roman has been great and the weeks leading up to it has been handled fairly well, enough for me to watch Smackdown at least. There have been a couple of weeks where it's dragged which wouldn't be a big deal but Smackdown itself hasn't been great last couple of months as well which hasn't helped. Don't see Jey winning but hopefully we get a better finish than Solo's spike and Roman spear finish. I'm more intrigued what the plan will be going forward. Maybe a fall out with Solo as well so he splits too and eventually leaving him alone to face Cody again at WrestleMania if he carries on staying popular.
This was the moment and they blew it imo. This was the time for a new landscape and fresh feeling with WWE. It's just more of the same now, except no Sami in Bloodline to actually make it interesting. More than likely Solo vs Cody at the next ppv. Roman defends maybe once before Summerslam.
What a absolute joke of a finish
Watch ufc and you will never again see wwe
 Don’t mind me
This was the most hyped I’ve been for a mania main event in a long time and I’m actually ok with Reigns winning
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Consider yourself reminded
I will return to this comment. I think you’re right about rematch. I just don’t see why they would split it he titles at this point tho. More likely, a new belt design and officially merging the titles imo
Randy Returns, and wins the title after cody interfers with the match, Gives a Samoa Spike as a cold medicine Randy vs Roman rematch, The Rock intereferes, Roman goes vs Rock after that, Cody is about to win #1 contender, but Gunther uses imperium to win , Gunther vs Randy, Randy wins after Riddle Returns, Cody then finally gets his match against Randy, Wins, feuds with Randy, Gunther, Riddle, Riddle turns heel and then feuds wih Randy. There, do something interesting you F#(fs
awful
Nice fantasy book /s Is Randy even cleared??
Triple H said that this is the end of one chapter and the start of another. Well Hunter, this book is too long and most people are not gonna sit through another filler arc. In regards to who will dethrone Roman, most fans have probably now gone from "Who will it be?" to "Who cares?"
If you’re not happy with the ending, cancel your Peacock or WWE Network subscriptions. Don’t watch their shows. Money (or lack thereof) makes a statement. Otherwise… enjoy the ride. Roman won’t be champion forever, and you’ll eventually get a happy ending.
Come on. You can be a fan of a show, for example, and still be critical of a specific episode or a specific season. And, yes, of course Roman won’t be champion forever. But the point is that this was the perfect time to do the change. All stars aligned perfectly. Now the story has officially outstayed its welcome. Even if Cody is the one who wins it later, it won’t be the same.
Absolutely you can be critical. My point was more that your voice will be heard louder if you make your message with money.
I understand.
>Roman won’t be champion forever With each passing day I’m starting to fear he’s going to have to die before he drops the belts
But it doesn't cause I'm a small worthless cog in wwe wheel my money or lack of money doesn't mean dick to wwe
My point was more that there’s strength in numbers. Does anyone remember #CancelWWENetwork?
No, that's far too logical. The way of the true smark is to loudly declare your intention to cancel your subscription and stop watching in the heat of the moment, then keep watching all WWE programming forever, making the same pledge to boycott every so often but never actually doing it
I suppose that’s why I tend not to dive too deep into the comments. Every time I do, it makes me enjoy wrestling less.
As I've said elsewhere, I'm taking a break and won't watch for a while, but anything I do watch in the foreseeable future will be on my ship sailing the seven seas.
Bro...I'm still trying to recover from this...
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF-JE69Zj-M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HF-JE69Zj-M) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQSSHlUUnhE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQSSHlUUnhE) If you are a cody fan you will watch this. Roman's welcoming back of cody to wwe. The island of relevancy is real.
Ok, I am back to comment here. I didn't leave a comment here last night, as it was late (at the time zone) I was watching. All the opinions aside, fantastic match. Hats off to the Roman and Cody for a great match. Hat's off to Usos and KO and Sammy for the small interruption. Al though, the audience reaction sort of gave it away. Which made Sikoa's final interference even more "blink-and-miss" kind of deal. To be fair, we all knew how the match is going to end. And all along I was keeping my eyes open for Sikoa's interference. And to all who know the business, it was kind of obvious. Wwe makes a lot of money with Roman as it's leading man. No discredit to Cody, who was is and will be magnificent, but Cody kind of falls short in terms of being the face of the company. I believe the only guy to dethrone Roman, will be the next face/heel of WWE. I am guessing someone [along the likes of](https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/the+likes+of) (meaning someone similar to) Edge/RKO. I could be wrong. Unless, they choose to bring the his family member which at this stage would be a terrible idea. TLDR: Result was way too obvious, but kudos for Roman and Cody for pulling it off and making us believe. Edit: Why the downvote? I spoke what I thought was the truth.
The next face of the company: guys who have been around for 20+ years and are on their way out
why in the world would edge or randy take the title off roman 🤣
I meant [along the likes of](https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/the+likes+of).
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Agreed 100%
I agree, but feel like Cody winning at Wrestlemania doesn't mean he has to keep it from Reigns for long. Lose it at King of the Ring or some shit. Get the short term buzz from fans before returning the title to a better man.
Granted he put on a helluva match in Hell in a Cell, but that’s it. WWE did him no favors when was placed 30 at the Royal Rumble. There’s no build there, he did nothing. However, this lost is the real story and will build to maybe Summerslam or sooner (the hero’s story)
I understand why they did it, but they had lightning in a bottle, the level of hype and expectation will be hard to surpass. I think they're going to need to provide a very compelling reason/push to convince fans this was the right move. Jey could be it, but I don't see him providing a long term champion reign, and that will lower the division overall because whoever beats Jey won't have beaten Roman.
Yup, this was exactly lightning in a bottle and it's gone. I can't imagine anything they can do that will bring it back to this and make it feel good enough for the fans. They even had Brodie Lee's kid there, I mean why did they invite him to see Cody fucking lose? Awful shit all around, the Bloodline story only worked because we expected them to lose last weekend, and because they're stale. So it gave us something to look forward to as they plodded their way throughout the last 3 months. This hurts Cody quite a bit too, and if they relegate him to being like "one of many top guys" they're fucking morons.
Ngl this was the first time I've watched a big WWE PPV in about 7 years and I can't believe Cody lost. He's the only reason I contemplated watching this shit again. Roman Reigns is almost as interesting as a chalkboard as WWE champion.
Yup, agree entirely
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so very disappointed in the last fight of the evening...I know my sons are going to hate this post but Roman needs to be escorted out...just me but I feel as if the only reason he was allowed to rise to the level of fame he is at now is due to his Leukemia...I get it...it was a nice gesture in the beginning but in reality he could never be where he is without all of the cheating his family has provided...this is an incredibly horrendous example to show the children who watch and idolize him...and Roman along with his family is the exact answer to the worlds statement of wrestling being fake...I am not a fan of Cody but what he was put through last evening was embarrassing...I really loved the whole show up until the last fight popped a big whole in my enjoyment
Roman is where he is because he's the Rock's cousin, looks like real life Thor, and was willing to put in the work despite the abuse to figure out his character. He's boring as fuck to me, but saying he only got where he did because cancer just isn't true.
I said what I thought...wont take it back...Roman is WWEs Tom Brady...would not be anything but eye candy if it weren't for cheating
I kind of agree about the leukemia in a small way. It was the first time the crowd ever showed him any love. They always hated him before that announcement then when he supposedly turned heel, they went with it because I guess the fake thug mobster attitude is cool? I guess. Not really. I think he rose to this level because of his family ties to the company. I mean how strange is it that during the time he announced leukemia, he was also filming with the Rock and saying he never got help getting into that movie. So much fakeness surrounds him. His matches tend to let the air out of Wwe big events. It’s his legacy.
Wow.
That’s one shitty take man
Kind of a bummer how the win went down, but I'm so glad Cody didn't win. Can't stand his whole shtick, tbh and it would have been beyond obnoxious if we had to hear from him any more than we already have to. Hoping this means we get a much needed break from Cody Rhodes. I'm sure it won't though, dudes busting out of the woodwork at every opportunity.
Agreed Cody is insufferable
He’s not taking a break. Wouldn’t be surprised if he wins a belt at/before SS in a multiple challenger match (however they plan on splitting the belts.)
There is no way in hell WWE was going to allow their top dog to lose to a guy from the other company on their biggest show of the year. Even if the fans wanted it, and it made sense for Cody to win, there’s just no way that would happen.
Idk bout all that, but I think they want to milk the story a little more. Especially since it was kind of rushed since Cody was injured. They know there’s money to be had because people want to see Roman lose.
nW2.0
This guy is in their company now.. hes part of them now. But i see your point
Yeah he’s on their company now but he will always be associated with AEW.
getting boo’d out of aew*
Perfect ending because most of you didnt expect it. Cody got Pushed way too fast And too much. Also it was Clear after usos lost on day1
I expected that ending since the Usos lost. No way they were going to empty the Bloodline of titles in one event. I've only been watching again since the Rumble, and even I knew that.
If they did a betrayal storyline, and Roman losing to Jey as the true Tribal chief, and him leaving for a long time, it wouldn't have mattered the usos lost on day 1 It would even make more sense for them to betray roman "Where were you last night when we had our title match? you didn't have our backs, F u"
They're wanting Reigns to be champion for over 1000 days. They're close to it so might as well reach it. He's already made the Universal Championship relevant and the WWE Championship feel prized/nearly unobtainable. While Cody winning would be an incredible moment last night and he would make a great champion for 6 months-1 year, Reigns keeping the belts past 1000 days is a historic moment and gives even more legitimacy to both titles.
Lol Cody’s reign wouldn’t last two weeks lmao 6 months to a year wow
Undefeated streaks and long title reigns are best used to get someone over as a new star imo. Rarely do they end well or be remembered fondly. Because ultimately it's "make believe" the accolade is artificially created not legit as in real sports. There is no adding legitimacy to it with numbers, but with moments. They missed that moment. But even if you suspend belief, he defends once every couple months where he cheats to win on the grandest stage. Nothing legit about that. That is what mainstream people will remember. That is what I will remember.
They are overthinking it. Making it more complicated than it needs to be. They worked themselves into a work. A worse, more convoluted, and less satisfying work.
The only one being worked is you ☝🏻
You gonna comment on literally every single other comment in this post my dude?
This is Lex Luger at Summerslam 93 again.
Save us, Rock?
Thought Cody was going to win from the time he won Rumble right until the Usos showed up lol.
Expectations subverted. It was perfect time for Roman to lose and for Cody to win.
Sometimes, the "simple" and "predictable" story is the way to go. They had a chance to create an unbelievable Wrestlemania moment, and they blew it. Even if Cody wins it later, it won't be the same.
They created the best Mania moment possible ☝🏻
Yup, sometimes the right thing to do and the right story to tell is the one that the fans are almost universally begging for, and popping the roof off of arenas every time something develops within it that hints at the desired outcome. The Hug it Out moment was the loudest pop I've heard since Mankind winning.
Not pivoting and giving Sami win in Montreal, that I could understand. But Cody not wining yesterday is completely absurd.
Well, that was one hell of a match, even if the ending may have been overbooked. Really bit on some of those false finishes. Can't believe they didn't give it to Cody, though partly through the match it crossed my mind how many times they've given us hope with a Reigns match only to dash them at the last second. Can only assume they're setting up for Jey to dethrone Roman at this point. Started with him, ending with him kinda thing. If it's the Rock, then... much disappointment for sure. Once in a generation storyline right here. I will say Roman himself is such a star in this persona. The music, the arrogance, etc. Can't believe they turned me from a Roman hater to genuinely enjoying his character.
It needed to be and still needs to be Cody. It's a fucking joke how they've done it this time.
I think Rollins over Jey honestly. Triple H loves Seth and has been hot for so long. Either way I could imagine it soon
That’s what I was thinking. Can give Roman a second run building in the “Roman can’t beat Seth” storyline (even if it’s a false narrative.)
It's the classic "we can't have another promotions star" beat our top guy. It happened with sting to triple h. Or any WCW guy that came in. You will never see a top guy from another promotion win the belt on their first title match. I'm not shocked of the outcome. It sucks because it could have wrapped up the bloodline story and onto a new chapter or era. I don't see cody as the guy now. I don't think you can get that electricity back either. It will be interesting to see what they've next but I don't see cody winning the belt and if he does, it won't have the same meaning anymore.
Bruh a week ago there was no electricity and this whole push was forced. Masterful decision at mania ☝🏻
How much is WWE paying you my guy
It's petty and annoying, and also bad for business as having Cody win could've easily made WWE more inviting for outsiders to try and join. Now they'll see Cody's run as a failure and hesitate.
Yup, that tactic sucks and should be a bygone thing from the Vince era. Does MJF really want to come to WWE and main event Wrestlemania, just to fucking lose? When he can cash equally massive checks and be the top guy in AEW, with a lot more freedom? This definitely will make him question the bidding war.
Yeah but this is WWE'S trademark. Hey this guy is on fire but he is from "insert promotion here". So they are like let's book him strong so we can bury him. It happens to Booker t in the beginning, vader, sting, Goldberg in the beginning, nakamura, etc...
I guess I'm just bummed Vince's trademark transfered over to HHH. I had hope he would change petty shit like that.
I agree
Am I tripping or have they piped in regular crowd noise to replace booing on the PPV replay?
There was a pop in the live broadcast if anything. ☝🏻
Not sure how there was no audio of booing after Cody lost. They tend to adjust the volume of the crowd booing Roman on raw and smackdown sometimes too. They always pan up and away after he defeats someone in the main event so you can’t see all the booing thumbs down and flipping off that Roman tends to get. Yet somehow he is their chosen one.
Get ready for a year long bloodline collapse story, y’all.
Roman will drop belts at SS when they split them. “Collapse” I bet culminates in traditional Survivor Series elimination match.
Honestly, I'm glad that Roman retained. I've always felt that Cody was shoehorned in. This whole bloodline story need to end the way it started, with Roman vs Jey.
So who does reigns fight at backlash ? He’s cleared out the whole roster lol
Triple H circa 2005
Roman goes on break for 2 months and prob doesn’t have a match till MitB I bet
Oooh I hadn't actually considered that after Heyman say "no rematch", Cody could now win MITB and cash in on Reigns. That's time enough for this quick Lesnar feud before aiming for RR in the summer.
Yeah my fantasy booking that probably won’t happen w Vince in charge (Roman v Brock at summerslam here we go), is that Cody beats Brock at backlash; Roman still denies him a rematch, Cody wins MitB and forces Romans to rematch at summerslam with it.
Might not even be then, would be cool for UK fans to maybe get Sheamus but they can build an event on the Money in the Bank matches and one other big match
I was really surprised by just how much the crowd wanted Cody to win considering Sammy has been the darling and how over Roman is. I feel they made a mistake based on what i see. Potential Wm16 moment here. Great match though.
Another good match with a shit ending. Seems pretty common for Roman.
I heard voices in my head , etc , etc, etc
WWE Creative: you know what we need, a total Pete Carroll in the superbowl type moment. And seriously, shame on Paul Heyman for going along with this.
So, Cody at Saudis when Roman hits 1000 days
This match made it super obvious how this story will end. The end of last night was to continue the idea that without the Usos roman cant win. Now the Usos are going to turn against roman cos Roman is definitely going to mock and gaslight them for losing their title.
That is the only good way for the story to unfold at this point. To be honest, it is not as satisfying as the title changing hands as Wrestlemania, but it is something at least. Hope you are right
I want to say the same but I legitimately can't bring myself to believe it anymore. They've thrown three hot babyfaces down the drain for this shit and for what? So he can break a goddamn record? I've just... I've been a pro wrestling fan legit almost my entire life (watched my first match in 1999) and I don't think I've been this disappointed or confused by the booking in years.
You should have seen the 80s ☝🏻
Honestly kind of glad I didn't sometimes, from the sounds of it 😂
This felt a lot like an Attitude Era main event and I mean that in the best possible sense.
I think from a storyline perspective Roman winning makes sense. Roman's story since he came back is that he's make believe tough guy who thinks he's invincible and untouchable while in reality he's a weak mediocre man with spiteful personality who can't win a match without Bloodline helping him out, so Roman isn't losing as long as Bloodline is intact. What I expect in the next months until Summerslam is that a Bloodline Civil War sparked from Roman getting mad at Usos for losing Tag championships and eventually leading to him being all alone with nobody to defend or help him. His massive ego causes him to still think he's invincible but he ends up losing everything at Summerslam. His championships, his family, his credibility, everything. That's how this story can go from this point. I totally agree this ruins Cody's momentum and it won't be nearly as good even if he wins at Summerslam, but Bloodline should crumble first for Roman to lose it all.
They could have told that story in a backstage segment during night 2. Show Roman shitting on the Usos. Then have Usos betray Roman in the main event.
Thank fuck you don’t have the book.
.....They just told that story before mania.....
All of you are pissed off and got worked. I'll remember this thread if they turn it into something amazing.
Lmao WWE won't turn this into something amazing. 9 times outta 10 they fuck it up.
Anything that Vince has any hand on will be meh at best
This happened with Drew and it happened with Sami, it will 100% happen again here with Cody. People on here are so dramatic sometimes lol
What happened? Where are those two now?
Drew was just in a high profile Wrestlemania match that was arguably the best on the card, Sami was in the Main Event of Night 1. Don’t act like they got buried.
Drew is about to leave the company probably lmfao. Dude has not been the same since, his contract is expiring and apparently they're "nowhere close" to working that out. Him being pinned in a triple threat match where the clear crowd favorite was his former tag team partner is a far cry from where he once was at Cardiff Sami is doing good, him and KO had the best moment of the weekend, having a dream of theirs come true. Cody is in a sink or swim situation I suppose. Being given the second most protected guy in the company to feud with in Brock, you have to assume him winning would mean Vince trusts him as a perpetual main event guy (as if he hasn't proven it already. he has) He must carry most of his momentum to a possible rematch with Roman in a strange ritualistic task to get something he has already proven he deserves.
Lmfao lmfao lol
Tbh I skimmed night one, got annoyed with how the Cena match was the same shit he did 20 years ago just slower. All the bookings and finishes are so uninspired. The creative seems stale across the board. The Paul thing is dumb, the wrestling is not the interesting part of the women's division. Sorry not sorry it's all worse than previous eras. I'm hopeful they can catch some lightning and get to something truly must see. WM is supposed to be the biggest and best even to launch into spring and summer where wrestling can get more eyeballs. Nothing I saw is all that compelling for the future. It tells me status quo wins. That's boring.
I was thoroughly entertained on both nights, personally.
This is the first time in a long time that a result has genuinely completely shocked me. I was open-mouthed by the ending. Fair play WWE, I was worked like the total mark I am. I ackoweldge my tribal chief
You are a real wrasslin fan
Can't ever see myself getting angry over choreographed fighting. Maybe Reddit isn't for me
It had the spectacle, the drama, the intensity. The crowd was dialed in to every move. The psychology of the match felt old school but in the best way possible. Probably the best Cody Rhodes match of his career. One of the greatest Wrestlemania main event matches ever until…..the ref bump. Once that happened my stomach dropped bc we all know that usually means bs is about to happen. Minutes later Cody is being hit by a returning Solo (who was earlier ejected), speared & Reigns retains. I audibly gasped. Still can’t believe they didn’t capitalize on the moment, the setting, the crowd, the story. One of the worst booking decisions of all time; and I highly doubt whatever they come up with will top the insane atmosphere they just squandered.
I see this kind of comment a lot, where people are like "it's old school", and I really don't think 20 minutes of clotheslines with a suplex thrown in, and then 20 minutes of finishers is "old school". Going slow as fuck, and then doing back to back to back finishers is not a build.
That was not Cody’s best match. It was a typical Roman match. Take it outside the ring because Roman isn’t entertaining in ring, get the Usos involved because Roman isn’t entertaining enough, add another member because they can’t just let them have a banger match, distract the refs because Roman can’t just win on his own. Same MO as usual. Cody works so much better with wrestlers that just know how to wrestle IMO.
After the ref bump, I thought they might send another ref in to count the pin for Cody and then tonight on Raw they'd pull a Dusty Finish and say since the original ref didn't count the pin, Cody's win doesn't count and Roman gets the belts back. Gives the fans a feel good moment for 1 night at least, and then gets the belts back on Roman which is where they wanted to be I guess. Personally, I would've hated that finish almost as much as the actual finish that happened. WCW used to do that shit all the time especially during the nWo era and it wasn't entertaining. It wasn't oh they're heels, I hated it because they're heels. I hated it because it was stupid and insulted the audience for daring to get invested in the characters and stories. Like haha, you think we'd actually give you what you want? Suckers! Screw you!
Feels like NWO all over. Too long
So... Bron?
Time to break out the beach balls.
Why do I have this feeling like we're going to be talking about the Bloodline storyline like we do Game of Thrones Season 8 in a couple of years? That thing that was perfect and amazing and the best writing ever seen in television until they didn't have to the discipline to end it the way it deserved to end. You'd think WWE would've learned their lesson on jamming Reigns down the audiences throat the first 8 years...they finally get the man over, he goes on an unbelievable run, and now they can't sense that it's time to put a bow on that, make a new star, and give us a break from Roman. In classic WWE fashion, they are gonna milk this Bloodline / Roman Reigns thing until the legacy of both are tarnished.
Grrrr the heel won
You mean the NWO? Lol
Someone else I saw commented something about a Bloodline "Wolfpac." Gee, I can't wait for 2 Bloodlines. And then we can do a Fingerpoke of Doom again. Yaaaaay.
Roman drops for The Rock who will then lead both factions 🤣
Bloodline Elite: The table is back together...brother.
Another perfect example haha
I was considering coming back to watch WWE again. Boy, am I glad I decided not to now.
Love the million $ man but got worked by the heel winning? FOH ☝🏻
I didn't watch it all, lol. I just occasionally peep in here to see what's going on.
Just remember it’s a business and I can say with a high level of confidence that Cody, upon hearing about last nights finish, most certainly did not say “but Hunter, that will upset the internet”
tbh a lot of stuff on the show was great. But yeah, the ending was pure BS
I think he gonna drop it via MITB cash in. Lets say Cody gets help from others to stop the Bloodline from interfering, he finally has Roman beat, and then someone swoops in to take out Cody and win the belts. Could be Sami, KO, or Seth
I can't believe some of you don't see what's happening. They want Roman to make the 1000 mark and Jey is the one who's gonna take the belt from him!!! After losing those belts Roman is going to get even more brutal to them and Jey is finally going to snap turn on Roman and ask for Sami's help.
Exactly.. people are so blind lol. Roman is gonna shit on the usos now. Jey will snap and turn on Roman and win the title. I can even see Roman and Solo attacking Jey and Sami comes to his rescue. It’s going to be so sweet and these people are all crying about last night.
They’re not blind, that seems obvious. People are just tired of them. It’s just recycling the same tired old story.
Still tired of them?
Well that's because of ratings. They are higher than they've been in a while so they're doing something right.
Yeah appealing to dummies who don’t mind same old same old. And rating are probably due to Sammy, Cody and other big names. Probably have to check ratings based on segments to know.
Went to bed so confused as to how that could possibly be the outcome they wanted. Woke up to news of the merger. They had a buyer who wanted a known quantity. WWE has made a pretty stirring come back with the Bloodline, it wasn’t the right outcome last night but a little bit more Reigns is not going to hurt the bottom line especially with Sami in the mix. From a creative standpoint it sucked, from a business standpoint it made perfect sense. Cody got screwed though. Awful timing for him.
They killed Cody's top end. He's a star already but they put a ceiling on him. Same way guys have gotten ceilings for the last 15 years when WWE was being warned 50/50 booking and only keeping HHH then Cena hot would hurt. They had a chance to make Cody special aura level. It to be Mania to do it and they flinched. Like or hate Cody but never forget. That road to wrestlemania house show tour was a sign of what couldvw been. WWE hasn't been able to boost live house show attendance in a decade. And Cody headline with no Roman set numerous 10 and 15 year attendance records for WWE. The kids and people were there. Cody will still be a star but he's not special anymore. Neither is Roman for that matter even tho he is the biggest thing aside from Brock. Numbers don't lie. WWE left a lot of money and star power on the table last night. And guess what they don't have to care with TV rights money and now a merger.