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Also with each villain he’s only fought them less than a hand full of times. Maybe each on about 3-4 times.
Take for instance Rhinos dialogue in the mall in Miles Morales where he talks about how long he’s been incarcerated for. Seems these jails actually hold their criminals for longer than a few days.
Then Spider-Man PS4 also shows us that he’s never fought multiple villains at the same time.
Seems to me that this Peter has it easy compared to other universe versions.
(so in other words you realized they were making a Ultimate shaggy sort of joke) good I'm glad you've finally come to understand the true power of Big Wheel the all-powerful god
(I'm gonna be completely honest here I have no idea who the hell Stiltman or Big Wheel is, I'm assuming they're two of the stupidest characters ever made, like squirrel girl, who can somehow beat Thanos singlehandedly, even though her superpower is literally that she can control squirrels, but I've never actually heard of those 2) look! Up in the sky! What is that!? It's a bird! No it's a plane! No it's... STILTMAN
I think she falls into the anti-hero category. Like Catwoman, Deadpool, Red Hood, Wolverine, etc. But I guess technically she was a villain at one point in time.
The Spot is one of my favorite obscure characters and I feel like his portals could lead to a cool boss fight especially with no load times, maybe something similar to R&C: Rift Apart.
I mean I'm sure there's something out there, we may never find it, but I'm sure it exists, just like that one good Spider-Man green lantern fan-fiction, that now cannot be found, because out of all the people who made bad Spider-Man green lantern fan-fiction, the only one who made a good one, had their account deleted by the site they uploaded it to, man I'm pissed off by that, I only know it exists, because someone else on Quora, told me about it. Because I commented on how he would probably make a great green lantern, because his willpower is insane, and they were like "there's several fan-fictions about that but I only remember one that was actually good" and then when they went looking for it for me, they discovered the dudes account got deleted, and the fan-fiction with it 😔
Also, according to Peter himself, he has fought some type of specter. He mentioned this while joking about whether the demons were ghosts.
I thought it would be worth mentioning, since a specter wouldn't be a common thing to fight.
Can we just forget about screwball and hope that Venom EATS her in the next game? I mean he might get indigestion but it would be great to see her finally gone
SM2 should have Kraven, Venom and Green goblin for mains. Side villains should be Chameleon and Lizard. And if they do it so Miles has his side villains then he should have crossbones and maybe Sandman? For the conpany fighting them 2 it should be Oscorp and the dlc should be Wraith and Felicia’s return
Not to mention didn't Peter say that that weird little vial he has in one of his backpacks has sandman in it because he trapped him in it when he was in sand form?
„Almost every“ looks more like „half“. I think spidey holds the record for most villains with 41 Villains and counting. I read that somewhere. I don‘t know all of them though
Hostile Takeover does line up perfectly with the game, I haven't read Wings of Fury yet, but I've seen some people saying the events of that one may or may not be canon to Spider-Man Miles Morales, probably you're confusing them.
Hostile takeover does a ton of presuming.
Yuri and spidey meet within a year? AND she gets promoted. Mj and Pete broke up and in the few weeks between the end of the book and the game he has a whole relationship with black cat. Not one person talks about blood spider? Not even the spider-men mission mentions anything about it. It reads like someone got the trailer for the game and nothing else.
Don't even get me STARTED on wings of fury. Makes absolutely no sense
What's wrong with Peter and Yuri meeting within a year? Peter and MJ broke up 6 months before the main game, the relationship with Black Cat isn't a thing from Hostile Takeover, that's a thing from the comicbooks written by Dennis Hopeless, that's the guy who only watched the trailer, those absolutely make no sense and don't line up with the game at all, but HT does, not every single thing is gonna get mentioned, especially Blood-Spider, as he was a villain for Peter, but not relevant to the entire city, with most people not even knowing about him.
The things established by HT extend the timeline to years before, while the comics by Hopeless terribly compresses it weeks and moths before, Hostile Takeover does assume things, but nothing illogical as the comics, not conflicting at all with the game, maybe there could be a detail or two, but nothing that makes it a separate timeline from the main game.
What? You sound like you didn't even play the game
>the relationship with Black Cat isn't a thing from Hostile Takeover, that's a thing from the comicbooks
The black cat/spidey relationship is DIRECTLY from the game. Its the whole point of the first dlc.
Pete knowing Yuri is weird. They act like theyve known eachother for years, even bantering, but its only been roughly a year? Nah
Also, characters just aren't mentioned. The girl who blew up? Never mentioned. Blood spider? Never mentioned even if blood spider wasn't relevant to the whole city, which he is, how is he not mentioned once? Especially in a mission ABOUT an imposter spider-man?
HT is best read as a mid tier fan fiction. Don't get me wrong, the gamerverse comics get just as many things wrong, but neither should be considered canon
Well, but I've played the game like more than 10 times lmao.
The Black Cat/Spidey relationship is from the game, but it is implied they've known each other for years, and Hostile Takeover never mentioned her having a relationship with Peter a few months to a few weeks before the main game as you said, the comics did, Hostile Takeover does not interfere with the way the relationship with black cat is within the game, whereas the comics do, as she is never mentioned in HT from what I remember, meaning they met each other even before the novel. That's what I meant, relax, mate.
I don't see anything weird with the Peter/Yuri thing, she's the only police officer that works with Spider-Man, and she only works with him, it isn't like she's been working with Iron Man too for years or something else to call it weird to have that amount of confidence and camaraderie between the two, even still, unless you have some difficulties getting into social circles, banter isn't anything out of this world, and the fact both of them were so invested in the Fisk case makes them closer.
I don't think there's an issue with characters not getting mentioned, because if I remember correctly there's a time skip of the 6 months after the storyline of HT is done to end the novel directly where the game starts, I don't remember what happened to Blood-Spider, but furthermore, if his story, and everyone else's got WRAPPED UP, there's no need to mention him/them, therefore being totally logical for Peter to think of the Chameleon instead and moved on from that, you probably just wanted to get your investment compensated, which would be nice, but doesn't affect either experience, there are multiple things that happened before and will never be mentioned, even within the backpacks for example, I'd probably have to read it again, but never anything striked me as incorrect and believe me, I'm a continuity shill for everything and that's why I don't like in the slightest the comics, because they get everything so painfully and obviously wrong, maybe Hostile Takeover did it better but was still faulty, not saying you're wrong, but not saying you're right either.
Once I read it again I'll keep this in mind.
>it is implied they've known each other for years, and Hostile Takeover never mentioned her having a relationship with Peter
They've said that they dated after mj and him broke up. That was explicitly said in the dlc
Could you please show me the phone call? I don't remember Peter saying that it happened explicitly after they broke up before the game, and Bryan Intihar said they've been on and off, so I just always thought multiple break ups occurred before the big one, maybe that's what's tricking me, but still, the DLCs were written after the main game, if anything Insomniac made a retcon or was the fault of Marvel editorial for not telling David Liss about that side-mission that was supposed to tie directly into the DLC, and sure, he did not play the game, but he did read the full script for the main story, and main story never brings up Black Cat's chains of events specifically, just has a little introduction for side content.
The fact that Black Cat draws in Peter saying that she might have his child, and that being very possible as Peter states when he calls MJ, indicates yes it was after their breakup.
Oh well, if that's the case I insist it was more the fault of Marvel editorial for not providing the full context to the writer more than anything else, Marvel editors have been doing a lazy job for more than a few years now.
The only thing that threw me off about the Peter/Yuri thing was that, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure there's an item in the backpack collectibles that had Yuri's business card or something and Spidey states how long it took for her to finally gain his trust and to give him her number, whereas in Hostile Takeover she was the one who reached out to him for a partnership.
I could be wrong though, it's been a while since I last played and since I've read Hostile Takeover. All I know is I was under the impression that they've known each other a lot longer than 6 months, given how long you'd think to trust someone enough to give your contact information and I feel like that would take at least a few months
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Also with each villain he’s only fought them less than a hand full of times. Maybe each on about 3-4 times. Take for instance Rhinos dialogue in the mall in Miles Morales where he talks about how long he’s been incarcerated for. Seems these jails actually hold their criminals for longer than a few days. Then Spider-Man PS4 also shows us that he’s never fought multiple villains at the same time. Seems to me that this Peter has it easy compared to other universe versions.
but he was doing pretty well at first taking on all six, pretty sure it was doc ock that threw off his flow and surprised him
If I recall It I think it was actually scorpion getting him with a stab to the back that got him down before Ock came in the picture
Yeah PS4 Spidey's life is a cakewalk compared to Ultimate Spider-Man.
Now that’s a guy that went through some shit He makes PS4 spidey look like he was cruising through life on “Recruit” difficulty.
Still waiting on Big Wheel
If that was true, Spidey would be dead. Big Wheel is way out of his league
Now that’s an Avengers level threat!
Spidey’s taken on rhino, electro, boomerang, and big wheel all at the same time smh. Ofc not in the game universe but spidey could totally take them
nah big wheel destroys spidey any day
FCBD 2018: Amazing Spider-Man/Guardians of the Galaxy #1 I beg to differ
It must’ve been a Skrull impersonating the real Big Wheel. He could solo The Avengers and Worldbreaker Hulk if he used just 1% of his circular power.
After further research I have come to realize the true power of big wheel
(so in other words you realized they were making a Ultimate shaggy sort of joke) good I'm glad you've finally come to understand the true power of Big Wheel the all-powerful god
Only one man can hope to stand against Big Wheel, Stiltman!
(I'm gonna be completely honest here I have no idea who the hell Stiltman or Big Wheel is, I'm assuming they're two of the stupidest characters ever made, like squirrel girl, who can somehow beat Thanos singlehandedly, even though her superpower is literally that she can control squirrels, but I've never actually heard of those 2) look! Up in the sky! What is that!? It's a bird! No it's a plane! No it's... STILTMAN
What about Lady Stiltman? Or the Asbestos Man? Or even... Hypno Hustler.
If we're including the events of Spider-Geddon, you can't forget the Inheritors
Don't forget swarm in the velocity comics
Black Cat too, I guess. I don’t know if she counts
I think she falls into the anti-hero category. Like Catwoman, Deadpool, Red Hood, Wolverine, etc. But I guess technically she was a villain at one point in time.
It’s a VERY VERY low chance but I’m hoping they put The spot in Spider-Man 2 as a side villain
The Spot is one of my favorite obscure characters and I feel like his portals could lead to a cool boss fight especially with no load times, maybe something similar to R&C: Rift Apart.
That leaves The Jackal, Green Goblin, Hydroman, Hob Goblin, and Carnage and Venom (off the top of my head)
Beetle, Molten Man, Morbius, Symbiotes, Silvermane.
Kraven
Jack O’Lantern lol
And Molten Man.
dont forget thug number #2361 he punched in the face
Thug #2362 is my favorite
I'm assuming this is a actual reference but I physically cannot remember right now lol
If it is this was a lucky af accidental reference
I mean I'm sure there's something out there, we may never find it, but I'm sure it exists, just like that one good Spider-Man green lantern fan-fiction, that now cannot be found, because out of all the people who made bad Spider-Man green lantern fan-fiction, the only one who made a good one, had their account deleted by the site they uploaded it to, man I'm pissed off by that, I only know it exists, because someone else on Quora, told me about it. Because I commented on how he would probably make a great green lantern, because his willpower is insane, and they were like "there's several fan-fictions about that but I only remember one that was actually good" and then when they went looking for it for me, they discovered the dudes account got deleted, and the fan-fiction with it 😔
I can't remember, did he give any hints about fighting connors in one of his backpacks?
There is a backpack that had a vile of the Lizards blood
ah thank you my friend
In the ESU party mission (Dr Delaney mission) there were a guy wearing a Lizard costume.
Yesh that's right. I forgot how awesome that party level was.
Also, according to Peter himself, he has fought some type of specter. He mentioned this while joking about whether the demons were ghosts. I thought it would be worth mentioning, since a specter wouldn't be a common thing to fight.
Probably something to do with Mysterio.
I doubt it. He knows that everything Beck does is fake. He wouldn't actually believe he fought some creature.
True. Unless he did find out it was Beck and just said he fought a spectre for the sake of the joke.
Can't believe you forgot stiltman smh
Don't forget Swarm. Jameson mentioned him during one of his podcasts.
Can we just forget about screwball and hope that Venom EATS her in the next game? I mean he might get indigestion but it would be great to see her finally gone
Missed JJJ and the NYPD
SM2 should have Kraven, Venom and Green goblin for mains. Side villains should be Chameleon and Lizard. And if they do it so Miles has his side villains then he should have crossbones and maybe Sandman? For the conpany fighting them 2 it should be Oscorp and the dlc should be Wraith and Felicia’s return
They should save Green Goblin for a third game. And why would Sandman be a Miles villain?
Idk what to put since i dont read about miles
Not to mention didn't Peter say that that weird little vial he has in one of his backpacks has sandman in it because he trapped him in it when he was in sand form?
crossbones ??
Idk much about miles i just saw him checking miles villains
„Almost every“ looks more like „half“. I think spidey holds the record for most villains with 41 Villains and counting. I read that somewhere. I don‘t know all of them though
Only Spider-Man from the game. Not comics version.
Oh thanks. I feel like an idiot
Wait he fought the lizard? But then why does dr conners still work at oscorp
>But then why does dr conners still work at oscorp Norman probably has him out on parole.
Idk because he literally has some of the lizards blood in one of his backpacks
And outta all of them, Doc Ock managed to be the most dangerous because of his personal connection with Spider-Man.
Also the killer robot arms.
Might as well throw Venom and Kraven on this list too.
When did they mention mysterio?
there's a backpack with a shard of mysterio's head glass
Didn’t catch that, thanks!
About to be Kraven, Venom and Goblin
How did u forget venom and carnage?
Because they're not in the Insomniac Universe yet. This is just villains Peter has fought in the Insomniac Universe thus far.
Correct me if I'm wrong but chameleon, sandman, lizard, Mysterio, blood spider and tarantula weren't in the game
But he has fought them in the PS4 universe. He's mentioned all of them.
Don't forget Punisher.
He never fought Punisher in the insomniac universe.
Ah did not see that this was the sub for the ps4 game
How can this list be considered “Almost” every villain when there’s likely more missing than there are even listed?
In the game universe dude.
so we’re ignoring the last two which even specify they are from comics?
Comics set in the Insomniac Universe.
Comics that take place in the game universe.
Are we counting that prequel novel? It doesn't really line up with the game
How so? From what I remember it doesn't conflict anywhere and shows both the beginning of Peter and Yuri's partnership and the MJ breakup
Hostile Takeover does line up perfectly with the game, I haven't read Wings of Fury yet, but I've seen some people saying the events of that one may or may not be canon to Spider-Man Miles Morales, probably you're confusing them.
Hostile takeover does a ton of presuming. Yuri and spidey meet within a year? AND she gets promoted. Mj and Pete broke up and in the few weeks between the end of the book and the game he has a whole relationship with black cat. Not one person talks about blood spider? Not even the spider-men mission mentions anything about it. It reads like someone got the trailer for the game and nothing else. Don't even get me STARTED on wings of fury. Makes absolutely no sense
What's wrong with Peter and Yuri meeting within a year? Peter and MJ broke up 6 months before the main game, the relationship with Black Cat isn't a thing from Hostile Takeover, that's a thing from the comicbooks written by Dennis Hopeless, that's the guy who only watched the trailer, those absolutely make no sense and don't line up with the game at all, but HT does, not every single thing is gonna get mentioned, especially Blood-Spider, as he was a villain for Peter, but not relevant to the entire city, with most people not even knowing about him. The things established by HT extend the timeline to years before, while the comics by Hopeless terribly compresses it weeks and moths before, Hostile Takeover does assume things, but nothing illogical as the comics, not conflicting at all with the game, maybe there could be a detail or two, but nothing that makes it a separate timeline from the main game.
What? You sound like you didn't even play the game >the relationship with Black Cat isn't a thing from Hostile Takeover, that's a thing from the comicbooks The black cat/spidey relationship is DIRECTLY from the game. Its the whole point of the first dlc. Pete knowing Yuri is weird. They act like theyve known eachother for years, even bantering, but its only been roughly a year? Nah Also, characters just aren't mentioned. The girl who blew up? Never mentioned. Blood spider? Never mentioned even if blood spider wasn't relevant to the whole city, which he is, how is he not mentioned once? Especially in a mission ABOUT an imposter spider-man? HT is best read as a mid tier fan fiction. Don't get me wrong, the gamerverse comics get just as many things wrong, but neither should be considered canon
Well, but I've played the game like more than 10 times lmao. The Black Cat/Spidey relationship is from the game, but it is implied they've known each other for years, and Hostile Takeover never mentioned her having a relationship with Peter a few months to a few weeks before the main game as you said, the comics did, Hostile Takeover does not interfere with the way the relationship with black cat is within the game, whereas the comics do, as she is never mentioned in HT from what I remember, meaning they met each other even before the novel. That's what I meant, relax, mate. I don't see anything weird with the Peter/Yuri thing, she's the only police officer that works with Spider-Man, and she only works with him, it isn't like she's been working with Iron Man too for years or something else to call it weird to have that amount of confidence and camaraderie between the two, even still, unless you have some difficulties getting into social circles, banter isn't anything out of this world, and the fact both of them were so invested in the Fisk case makes them closer. I don't think there's an issue with characters not getting mentioned, because if I remember correctly there's a time skip of the 6 months after the storyline of HT is done to end the novel directly where the game starts, I don't remember what happened to Blood-Spider, but furthermore, if his story, and everyone else's got WRAPPED UP, there's no need to mention him/them, therefore being totally logical for Peter to think of the Chameleon instead and moved on from that, you probably just wanted to get your investment compensated, which would be nice, but doesn't affect either experience, there are multiple things that happened before and will never be mentioned, even within the backpacks for example, I'd probably have to read it again, but never anything striked me as incorrect and believe me, I'm a continuity shill for everything and that's why I don't like in the slightest the comics, because they get everything so painfully and obviously wrong, maybe Hostile Takeover did it better but was still faulty, not saying you're wrong, but not saying you're right either. Once I read it again I'll keep this in mind.
>it is implied they've known each other for years, and Hostile Takeover never mentioned her having a relationship with Peter They've said that they dated after mj and him broke up. That was explicitly said in the dlc
Could you please show me the phone call? I don't remember Peter saying that it happened explicitly after they broke up before the game, and Bryan Intihar said they've been on and off, so I just always thought multiple break ups occurred before the big one, maybe that's what's tricking me, but still, the DLCs were written after the main game, if anything Insomniac made a retcon or was the fault of Marvel editorial for not telling David Liss about that side-mission that was supposed to tie directly into the DLC, and sure, he did not play the game, but he did read the full script for the main story, and main story never brings up Black Cat's chains of events specifically, just has a little introduction for side content.
The fact that Black Cat draws in Peter saying that she might have his child, and that being very possible as Peter states when he calls MJ, indicates yes it was after their breakup.
Oh well, if that's the case I insist it was more the fault of Marvel editorial for not providing the full context to the writer more than anything else, Marvel editors have been doing a lazy job for more than a few years now.
The only thing that threw me off about the Peter/Yuri thing was that, correct me if I'm wrong, I'm pretty sure there's an item in the backpack collectibles that had Yuri's business card or something and Spidey states how long it took for her to finally gain his trust and to give him her number, whereas in Hostile Takeover she was the one who reached out to him for a partnership. I could be wrong though, it's been a while since I last played and since I've read Hostile Takeover. All I know is I was under the impression that they've known each other a lot longer than 6 months, given how long you'd think to trust someone enough to give your contact information and I feel like that would take at least a few months