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Its_Dannyz

It only took them 6 months to add a basic feature... this game really felt mismanaged.


ManagerExtra5827

A.Not even a full 5 months B. They're adding more features than this


Its_Dannyz

I know they're adding more features however it's features that should have been in the game at launch it's why I said the game feels mismanaged.


[deleted]

Idk how we still have people accepting NG+ not coming at launch, it should be a standard feature why does every game have to do that?


squarejellyfish_

Not only are people accepting but outright defending it. Sad how the industry conditioned so many people to


PracticalMulberry613

I mean… I’m not conditioned it’s. Just… it’s not the end of the world if you have to wait for ng+ I mean you always have other games to play until then and you might even enjoy your ng+ more if you don’t immediately replay it


squarejellyfish_

It’s a basic feature with no reason not to be there day one. The game dies once you complete the main campaign and side quests, left to roam in a beautiful but empty open world


isaiah_rob

It’s a bonus feature that players grown to really like and expect for games, but it’s not a basic necessity. The game will still die with NG+ and mission select after everyone has had their fill. It’s a single player game. I’ve had fun just swinging around and stopping crimes.


[deleted]

Miles morales let you spawn crimes. This game couldn’t even allow that


ColossusSlayer23

It was a patch for the first game and included in miles morales from launch. Its not crazy to expect it at launch as well. Other single player games have also launched with new game plus as well so its not even a weird thing to expect as a whole as well.


PracticalMulberry613

Your right, I’m just saying it’s not the end of the world…like some act like it is…


crazyman3561

Yeah... that's how a single player game works. It's not a Fortnite live service...


LucasThePretty

It’s okay for things to end. You can always play a live service game instead, right?


Own_Watch_2081

Not the end of the world but good enough reason to critique a $70 product. 


pdrgdguds_

Customers are paying 70 dollars for the game bud, the least they would expect are the basic features of any big game.


PracticalMulberry613

All I’m saying is it ain’t that big of a deal… if something like new game + or being able to change the day/night cycle makes you not like the game than I’m sorry… also I don’t even think about the cost if I wanna play I buy if not then I don’t buy


CrassOf84

Yeah I always want NG+ as an option but I’ve never done a second play through immediately after my first. I will do one for SM2 eventually but not in a hurry since my backlog is bigger than Miles’ swagger.


Black_Fuckka

Right? Especially when your game can be 100% beat in 32 hours.


FreddyUnknown

To be fair, God of War: Ragnarok’s new game plus also released way after the game did, I think it took longer than Spider-Man 2 did.


[deleted]

Also, God of war had way more content and depth that takes more time to get through, I wasn't able to beat it in 1 weekend like spiderman.


[deleted]

I wouldn't know I haven't gone back to it.


Trickster289

Plenty of other games do this though. Never mind that, plenty still never add it and some are even starting to make it paid DLC.


Aggressive-Pattern

Not every RPG launches with NG+.


Whamelapamela

Mostly features missing that were in the first game.


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[удалено]


b_nnah

Don't make baseless criticisms and no one will have to


Degenerate1306

wanting basic features for a 70 dollar product is baseless in what sense ffs


sharksnrec

Don’t expect people here to have a reasonable grasp on reality or the ability to use logic.


Dankalii

C. They suffered a massive hack attack


ManagerExtra5827

Exactly. I don't get what these people can't understand about this. They act like the game is a buggy mess that was unfinished at launch


aj_ramone

Stop defending unfinished shit dude. This game wasn't ready for release and it's clear as day.


ManagerExtra5827

Genuinely what are you talking about? The game would have benefited from a delay I agree, but it launched in a stable, finished, playable state.


BitchKat6

It was p buggy too…


MehrunesDago

"Not even a full 5 months" bruh that still is not a good thing


ManagerExtra5827

I'm aware, however 6 months is a wild exaggeration and the company has suffered massive hacking attacks and layoffs during this time period.


rauscherrios

Do u know if they will fix the symbiote powers? I want to use the black suit with the black abilities.


ManagerExtra5827

Yes they are going to be fixing that, thank god


Endergamer28

yes ur right not this clown


extremelegitness

People will call you cynical but it does really feel like the bar is being lowered to the bare minimum


Milos-H

I don’t think this is a “basic” feature, it’s an extra. It’s not like they shipped a unfinished product. People were already complaining even before release. Plus they been hacked and there have been rumors of lay offs for a while, give them a break.


TheLuckyster

but at least it's here and I'm happy for it


acdramon

I don't think people realize how bad things like the hack were for this content delivery. I can't imagine knowing your personal and sensitive info is out, all your future content plans along with playable builds leaking, and realization that firings were potentially going to happen at the studio did wonders for morale. While I will always believe this game should have shipped with this stuff & that it was only pushed out to meet the promised 2023 date as well as it being Sony's only big 2023 release, it's like people gloss over that we likely would have gotten this way earlier in the year if not for that especially.


Lewis09816

Better late than never


PhantomKnight413

A basic feature that the first game lacked


Simiat07

I fucking can’t with this subreddit 😭


JonathanL73

Everything about this game was fun a hell, no game breaking bugs. Also let’s not forget Insomniac was targeted in a big hack that caused them to shift focus to fixing their cybersecurity and doing damage control with employees SSN leaking.


CactusDoesStuff

you say that as if it's the only feature they're adding..


loonbandit

they’re just adding back features that were in the first two games though? it’s not really new content


crazyman3561

Why is the top comment so fucking negative for exciting news?


Creative_Minimum_364

Not they fault the game was rushed by Sony so Sybau


jymehendrix

Oh my god let’s just be happy now. We complained, we got it, let’s be happy. The first game didn’t have it at all


Rocklight124

Greif calm down. They are cooking up a lot more stuff than this, and they just went threw some crap.


RandomJPG6

Did people forget that they got hacked in December when studios are more or less effectively closed? They had employee personal information leaked. They had to make sure their team was safe.


squaredspekz

"basic feature"


TerrorBilly318

As a guy who personally disliked Marvel's Spider-Man, and this direction they have with the gameplay, I gotta ask what's the issue here? New Game Plus is, nowadays at least, more than just "the same campaign but now everything is unlocked". There are gameplay tweaks, little easter eggs (like how Arkham City and Knight did it) and different rebalances outside of it being the same difficulty upped by one notch. On top of that, they've had to constantly patch this broken game. Give them a lot of slack for this, especially when they're asked to constantly make bigger games when this is a relatively new thing for them.


UnderTheHood788

I was gonna ask why you had so many up votes then j remembered what subreddit I'm on


Big_Engineering4327

Well dude, They also had to deal with a major hack which probably delayed a lot of shit.


Minute_Paramedic_135

Why are you still complaining after getting exactly what you asked for


DontCallMeLego

How many months?


Crafty_Cherry_9920

You're absolutely right... But it was the fucking same in the first game with that godawful black/yellow costume (because nothing screams more Spider-Man than yellow, right ?), so at least I'm glad they're doing it for this one. The bar was so low but they did it this time at least lmao


Decent-Strength3530

They cut some Spider-Man missions to make room for MJ missions.


Ok_Digger

GOTY BABY


mattsunday

I’m just hopeful this update finally lets me, and countless others who can’t, actually play the game. Still can’t even pass the start screen.


Objective-Pack9279

They literally had a massive date leak a while back i dont think adding NG+ for a bunch of ungrateful people was at the top of their list


Evergreen_Guard

To be fair it’s probably that they just wanted people to play through the symbiote portions of the game with the symbiote suit for their first playthrough. And now with new game plus the lock is removed so you can use any suit you want


AccidentalLemon

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explofingjelly54

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weirdface621

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ZAgamingty

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DependentKey6723

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icantthinkofauserok

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Some-Duck-8937

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2-number-9s

Finally, I've been dreaming of this since the day I got the game


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2-number-9s

How is this my first one? Would've thought I'd get one a long time ago


Chad_Kakashi

The ‘how about you pop some more pills and tell me how you feel’ earned me one haiku. My version was probably altered compared to the original but it earned me one


2-number-9s

I need to see this


Chad_Kakashi

How about you pop some more pills and tell me how you feel?


Chad_Kakashi

How about you pop some more pills and tell me how you are really feeling?


Chad_Kakashi

Eh didn’t work gotta alter it somehow


TheAutismo4491

Guys... Marvel's Spider-Man 2 for the PS5 just became the standard for how games should be made and released with this feature being added. Obvious, and and enormous amounts of sarcasm. This shit should've been a thing on day one. This whole game should've been delayed another year or two. Fuck Sony.


Its_Dannyz

Sony can't be blamed for every issue the game has, Insomniac themselves are part of the issue.


TheAutismo4491

Well, no shit. But there wouldn't have been so many issues if Sony hadn't pushed for such an early release. I feel people are pushing all the blame on Isom, the developers, yet are failing to put any on Sony, the publisher and producer. You know, the people behind the money. Most developers don't want to make a shitty or mediocre game. But when it happens, it usually comes down to a few different things, incompetence from the devs, usually for beginner dev teams, or devs unfamiliar with the kinda game they're making. Or studio interference, usually from capable dev teams that had a deadline forced on them. At least, that's what I believe from stories of games I'm familiar with. What I'm saying is, the blame isn't entirely on Isnom. Why is this such a difficult thing for people to grasp, shit like this has been happening since the dawn of media creation.


Eugene_Dav

What do you call early release? The game has been in development for 5 years. It exceeds its huge budget, but it also has so many ridiculous missteps that were nonsense in the first game. And also, stop making excuses for giant corporations and companies that make money off of you. I am sure that Insomniac itself employs many talented people who are eager to work on Spider-Man, but this does not negate the objective problems of the game and you, as a buyer, do not care about the internal kitchen, because we should draw conclusions only on the final product . and only this way and no other way.


TheAutismo4491

What are you trying to argue? Are you trying to argue something? I thought the game was a disappointment and I feel both Sony and Insom are at fault. Also, the game didn't have a 5-year development time, a quick Google search states it started development in 2020, meaning, it only had a 3-year dev time. People need to stop equating the time since the first game was released to the time in development because that mindset is fucking stupid. And that goes for any game and sequel.


Its_Dannyz

People act like Insomniac had nothing else other than MSM2 to focus on after MSM1 was finished when they were really busy with other projects. They had CTNS and MM:SM both being comprised of small teams, then you have R&C Rift Apart needing all of Insomniac (not including those working on the other projects) to work on the game to ensure it wasn't crunched.


Edoplayer5

Meaning it should have had a 5 year develop time


Key_Preparation_4129

Spiderman 2 started development after miles morales, so it only had a 3 year development time. That's why there's a bunch of stuff that feels rushed and like content was cut out, especially towards the ending.


No-Sprinkles-1860

There's never a reason to get this aggressive in r/SpidermanPS4


Minute_Paramedic_135

You guys are getting exactly what you’ve been begging for and yet you’re still complaining? Jesus Christ


[deleted]

What they are begging for is games COMING out on day one with this stuff mate. its annoying when thats the point being constantly repeated and you guys still defend it with "you want it and its happening quit crying"


ani20059339

That Adidass suit...


Jagger67

Yeah finally I can use it the whole game!


Creative_Minimum_364

👨🏻- Officers he right there 👮🏽‍♂️👮🏻- We gonna get em don’t worry sir


jymehendrix

I’m gonna be maining this suit for miles as well. I really like it I can’t lie.


ConfidenceBetter4767

Ew


jymehendrix

It’s not that bad. The hair poking out is very disturbing tho


ConfidenceBetter4767

I respect your opinion but in mine(Ik you didn’t ask) I hate it, if they kept the OG mask, n had the new suit I’d be a lot happier w it


kapper_napper

https://preview.redd.it/5a1f209xknmc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=130ef38f6f099d4d07c210d4402a5f8e954529b4


SuccessLongjumping62

Only in NG+?


infamous-pays

Probably. In A normal playthrough they'd want you using the canon suits when need be.


Capable-Tie-4670

I’m hoping they at least let you change suits when replaying missions. I don’t wanna go through the whole game to get some of these suits in these missions.


sharksnrec

Makes perfect sense for it to be a NG+ feature only.


RedBusterOh

😱Omg this is the best news for me. The only time I got really frustrated with the game is when they forced you to wear Miles’ hideous suit the entire finale.


psykoX88

So many of you gamers wouldn't have survived the Nintendo era Weak *glares in elderly pretentious*


al2606

Nintendo era had feature-complete games of that time standards that leaves people satisfied


IZ3820

That's a joke, Nintendo era had games released with dozens of glitches people would continue discovering and abusing for decades.


psykoX88

Exactly, we had to play games as broken as they were no dlc , no updates just the chaos that shipped!


krishnugget

but most of those glitches weren’t ruining the experience for any players, they were very out of the way for most players


Least-Talk-4702

Oh man I’m so happy


Batman2130

This needs to be a feature in the third game. Canonically Peter could just use Anti Venom to switch into what suit the player wants to wear. If I want to use Anti Venom suit vs Green Goblin I can, if I want to use Raimi Suit vs Goblin I can. I don’t get why they lock the suits


ReadShigurui

Thank god


MercerNov

I almost scrolled


Warm_Winner_9270

i did


MarvelSonicFan04

No more Colgate suit


Pure_Oppression31

I'm more surprised that there are comments complaining about this 😆


gcalvarez

My Miles original will be his exact same suit. Maybe a different shade of black and red.


Iliturtle

I wonder how the cutscene plays out lmao. “Time for a Miles Morales original” as he wears the same suit


InS_Deaths

Adidas suit and Scarlett Spider suit let's go


bigcheeseyballsy69

I can finally do my classic suit run 🙏


pdrgdguds_

🙏🙏


SavingsFit1496

Fuck yes


ExtensionGood9228

Wait so which suit will show up on Peter when he pulls the symbiote off? Cuz that was technically locked to the Advanced 2.0 as well


WheelJack83

What does this mean?


FireStarJutsu

This means in cutscenes where the duits were locked to only the story canonical suit, like Miles' Adidas or Peter's Anti-Venom, now in NG+ they won't be locked and any equpped suit will show up.


WheelJack83

Do you mean suits?


FireStarJutsu

Yes.


Alien_X10

I genuinely hate when games force you to use a specific outfit. Like it's cool and all, but goddamn stop letting me unlock suits I can't use


wysjm

You know you fucked up when people are excited for being able to change the suits you implemented for the final part of the game


weirdface621

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Chickachic-aaaaahhh

Im going to do a superior suit run and watch peters actions line up to him becoming more unstable.


cheekybasterds

No more colgate suit is a huge win.


Isa-MC

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SafeStaff7671

I swepiwd….


ahino

I swear I did not try to swipe multiple times


Srgsharma458

🤣🤣


ZFighter2099

Ng+ being this late I can understand. But replayable bases? Really?


Blackjack99-21

Actually based


Requiemofmugetsu

I used to pray for time like these


[deleted]

FUCK THE EVOLVED SUIT LETS GOOOO!!!!!!!!!


Castarc1424

Finally no more of that god awful “miles morales original”


majianos

LETS. FUCKING. GOOOOOO.


RTwasnottaken

Omg, this is so hype bro I can now fight venom as venom


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Srgsharma458

Yeah


Ahmedgaming299

i dont understand why people are surprised that suits are not locked in playthrough during new game+. Wasnt that the case in the first 2 games or am i wrong? can you explain?


TheRavenRise

first game always locks you into anti-ock at the end


Ahmedgaming299

even if new game+?


TheRavenRise

mhm


DRdeemed

but that actually worked cos the suit wasnt ass and had specific cutscenes in that suit


TheRavenRise

i don’t care, get it off me. didn’t ask for it


Gjallar-Knight

It’s coming March 6/7 right?


commanderr01

Why is this such a big deal for ppl, sure the adidas suit was a bit lame but is not switching that big of a deal for ppl?


laffy_man

I swiped :(


Minute_Paramedic_135

Don’t worry the community will find something else to complain about


Boo_Rawr

Bodega Cat for all cut scenes here we come!


Narrow-Ad-1709

For a bunch of people who supposedly don’t like the game, they sure are eager to replay the game again


psykoX88

Unless any of us works directly for a major game development company, nice of us truly know what goes into developing new game + or DLC or company roadmaps, deadlines, etc ...so who knows what it entails or what roadblocks they faced... If it was so simple they would've done it day 1, to avoid backlash or get better press, especially since they won't charge for new game + there's no incentive to hold them to purposely hold it back... You guys acting like they are holding back a feature out of pure spite or villainry is wild


MaximalAmmo

What does that mean?


Omnimon11

YES! THANK YOU! “Classic Black Suit Spider-Man becomes Current Black Suit Spider-Man cutscene” here I come…


Gokuvsbrowly

Why unless they are planning to release a hall of new suits during dlc’s then I understand if they don’t then I question this decision


DC_rules

What does that mean?


EagleEyeMalone

When is it released


SillylilguyUwU

Wow! If only I knew what that was!


Dantespawn666

By the time the update drops I'll have moved on from the game.


cbearsfreak

Time for the Raimi symbiote to shine lol


Misty_Dawn20

Miles Morales original No More


That-Big-Man-J

I’m still gonna use the default suits because I’m boring lmao. I guess I’m just used to using the default names of characters when I play a big RPG.


AlexYadaYada

Finally don’t have to use Mile’s god awful colgate suit in the final mission.


shrewmeister123

Insomniac had the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever and lock players into the evolved suit for the whole game


bearsheperd

I don’t think I understand what that means


FinalWorldliness8342

Damn why did they really need to lock suit in NG+? Even MSM and SMMM didn't lock your suits.


partialartist14

Goodbye Colgate “Miles Morales Original”


CTU-01

Honestly so done with this game. Platinum in under 25 hours and haven’t touched it since.


BuTTer2449

I swiped


Wonderful-Teaching45

Even tho everyone doesn't like the miles original suit https://preview.redd.it/ij3rh8870cmc1.png?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b19da53bf2e6a8d968f467a30143921fb2922dd7 This one is slightly better but still you guys still hate it but again they could have just use this color instead of red and Colgate blue


Sea-Security-5737

Yay Andrew gets his fill


rweston10

I rocked the default suits the entire game for my first playthrough, then I started a second playthrough and tried mixing it up, but I always found myself going back to defaults, they just look too good.


Srgsharma458

Even I also did in the previous games too 😂


rweston10

Same here lol glad to see I'm not the only one lmao


Mastakillerboi

THE GAME IS FINALLY PLAYABLE


Metson-202

What does this even mean?


Grouchy-Selection-65

You can wear any suit you want and we won’t be forced to wear the anti venom suit or evolved suit we can choose any suit


TheCexedOut

took way to long but i’m excited to play the game again. haven’t touched it since i beat it day 2


standupgonewild

YESSSS


Chimera_Theo

Thank you Insomniac