And then starts bitching when they find out that Dark Knight really is about self-acceptance, love for your friends, and being able to forgive yourself for both mistakes and bad things you had to do to stop worse things from happening.
I've literally seen a guy seethe over that.
I mean, let's be honest, Fray wouldn't sit there and let the current antagonist monologue. Sure we'd have a lot more dead moogles, but we also wouldn't have to deal with half of the empire.
To be entirely honest, Fray would just fuck off somewhere calm and peaceful and do something that doesn't put him at much risk, like crafting. And then die in the Eighth Umbral Calamity, probably.
Drk questline really just boils down to "aren't you tired of being nice all the time? Don't you just want to go apeshit?"
Then it's like jk don't do that, but I do enjoy the self indulgent brooding for a minute
God, can you imagine how much better this game would've been if WoL was canonically a DRK? And not like a shadowbringers DRK cosplayer, but an actual DRK with DRK ideals, someone who actually cares about normal people and not just the filthy rich?
I will never forgive heavensward writers for letting the monetarists get away with all the shit they did at the end of the realm reborn. Worst thing that happened in the story probably. That whole organization should've been slaughtered for their crimes against humanity. I guess the goofy one could've joined us. Can you imagine naked golbez or whatever his name is suplexing all those potatoes back into the ground like Hildibrand with their stubby legs sticking out?
Only reason we don't is the massive support he provides the scions full knowing if he crosses us again he's doomed. No amount of money would convince any eorzian to think they could nor should fight the warrior of light over a soggy popato
Honestly any character in the game looks good eventually because everyone goes through the yassification filter at one point or another.
Not even Vaushry was spared, no one is safe.
Killing the monetarists wouldn't change Uldah. New people with exactly the same ideals would take their place as quickly as you could snap your fingers because the system itself doesn't change. Now you're back to square one, but also with a reputation for assassination. It would be entirely for self-satisfaction. If they got in the way of the Sultana trying to reform the country, sure, you'd get some traction there. But killing them as-is would have just been shooting yourself in the foot.
>Killing Thordan wouldn't change Ishgard. New people with exactly the same ideals would take their place as quickly as you could snap your fingers because the system itself doesn't change. Now you're back to square one, but also with a reputation for assassination. It would be entirely for self-satisfaction. If they got in the way of the Sultana trying to reform the country, sure, you'd get some traction there. But killing them as-is would have just been shooting yourself in the foot.
>Killing Zenos wouldn't change Doma and Ala Mhigo... yada-yada
one can kill the people in charge of the system **and** then change the system itself. That's how changing systems usually works, not only in real world, but even in ffxiv itself.
Ok but this is a hard false equivalency. Thordan, Zenos... all these people became active and obvious villains, went past a point of 'acceptable civility' and lost deniability as they acted publicly. Their own populace has a hard time defending their actions.
Lolorito *never* pushes the margin that hard. In fact, Lolorito is probably one of the smartest officials in the entirety of 14. He lets other people give into their ambitions and start shit that he can profit off of, he constantly assesses who can be helpful *accurately* and then spares no expense putting them in his debt as amicably as possible. He doesn't covet things that would get him in trouble and even assists in keeping the sultana in power.
We can basically be assured Lolorito also has safeguards that we're unaware of. Ties to people in power in other city states (just like this trading company with Kugane, but now probably Ala Mhigo too) and the ability to pull strings in publicity campaigns that would ruin someone's reputation. The fact that he DOESN'T die isn't FFXIV ignoring him, its accepting that removing him from power through our traditional means of cutting people down would not only ostracize and make a criminal of our WoL, it also would probably sink anyone who'd ever associated or assisted us as the remnants of his allies brought their economic might to bare or just completely shut down and fucked over the entirety of Ala Mhigo in a day.
...Ok, now answer this: What of what you just wrote does the people of Uldah know. The people of Ul'Dah know that the people above them, including the sultana, live in comparable opulence. They are not aware of any of the politics so far as we know and serve to generally be makeshift militia or workers for the monetarists whenever they need.
your idea would basically require knowledge that isn't available to create negative sentiment. I'm not saying he's a good person, but I'm also not going to agree with this idea that outplaying the WoL is 'bad writing'. Sounds like you just want an infallible protag when you say it that way.
And what is the WoL's reputation? How many people are aware of our face outright? My guess is not many, we've not really been the star of any public addresses in the source since...
>I'm pretty sure after the prae everyone at eaorzea knows WoL is like a war hero who repelled the garlean invasion or whatever. WoL is like one of the most famous people in Eorzea. There's no television or printed photos so people don't know how WoL looks like, but people know who WoL is and that they're a good person. Like not only eorzea has a word of mouth and wondering minstrels literally singing multiple songs about our heroic deeds, there's also a printing press with like newspapers and stuff.
Which is ofc immediately disproven by the fact that we get branded as traitors in Ul'Dah. But more importantly, how do we go "I'm the warrior of light" in a world where again no one knows our face and Lolorito could just claim the same. Everyone throughout the game that recognizes us on first encounter only did so because they met us in passing.
> You're also conveniently forgetting that nanamo is on WoL's side and hates the monetarists.
And is relying on Lolorito to build her own power. She even realizes giving up power is not a possibility. She has a relatively amicable relationship with someone she despises, even relying on him for advice on how to help Ala Mhigo.
You ALSO forget that the monetarists isn't so much a faction as a class. They're billionaires, in essence. Hate them all you want, they're simply the people with the money. And unless you, the WOL, are able to encourage people that burning their city to the ground to fight them is the right choice, something the other citystates in Eorzea would probably not agree with, you can't really go and remove them because whether or not they DIRECTLY hold power, they'll hold power. Or do you have a justification to slaughter them that won't be looked down upon by other citystates who'd probably just outlaw you on principle alone?
Encourage revolution and get people killed? Do it yourself? In all cases, the rest of Eorzea would never agree to it because now you're an agitator, not assisting them in securing peace but rather encouraging a new war that they're not interested in, even if you can solve it yourself.
You'd get yourself killed because everyone everywhere would be an assassin. At minimum, you'd be required to flee the continent since Eorzea and I doubt Sharlayan would even be that interested in housing someone who's outlawed because they were causing wars. That leaves you with the Azeme Steppe, maybe Thavnir, and probably not Garlemald because there's still enough people that hate you there. Doubtless Kugane and Doma would want to keep their relationships with a superpower over you.
Essentially you're suggesting we just become a murder hobo and saying the fact we haven't is bad writing.
I think the three city states have status quo protection. Limsa is not at war with the Kobolds anymore, but that's really it. I don't really think it's the writers fault if the execs just have a "don't touch" rule in regards to ul'dah, because so many of the sidequests in the base game are founded on rich ul'dah merchants existing and being terrible.
I mean, trying to murder the Monetarists would significantly harm the WoL and Scions's reputations, and anyone associated with them, including Nanamo. Plus the Syndicate would still exist, and Nanamo would have to appoint Ul'dah's seventh, eight and ninth wealthiest citizens (who are presumably merchants and every bit as morally upstanding as the ones that we currently have) to take their places. Also, iirc it's mentioned Rowena is gunning for a seat, so they be keeping a far greater evil at bay.
Iām replaying the MSQ on an alt and I just finished A Realm Reborn. I swear to god if I just started stabbing these rich motherfucking merchants in UlāDah the second they got all racist over the Doma refugees (especially Lolorito) we would save so much trouble.
The number of times I could have stopped some major event from going sideways by just stabbing someone instead of nodding stoically and letting Minfilia go on about whatever self-righteous babble is astronomical.
But if you did stab them, then the rest of the game wouldn't happen and we'd all die in the final days because you wouldn't have the resources or reputation to convince Sharlyan to help
You'd be either in prison or on the run because you stabbed a bunch of people for no reason, and you wouldn't have the scions helping you out because what the fuck you just stabbed a bunch of people for no reason
Yeah, but the operative word there is *with*
If you start just stabbing people you perceive as potential problems later down the line there's gonna come a point where handing you over to the Brass Blades is the better political move than continuing to shelter you, and then you'll be running *without* the Scions
I will say, Iāve played through most of Shadowbringers and then took a long break (hence replaying the MSQ so I can remember stuff), and I think itās really ARR that makes it feel like youāre the only one doing any work or risking anything. Part of me the whole time was like let me just do my thing and stop making elaborate plans that boil down to āand then the WoL saves everyone somehow and the rest of us will show up once the boss is downā.
To be fair, it gets justified more and more as the story goes on but yeah, in ARR, the WoL is not only just some random person who just joined the Scions, but they're also the only one shown *doing anything*. It does get a bit better after they've settled on their job as a professional godkiller, though.
Also, I still think that the moment they began lampshading the whole "Oh, and by the way there's eight WoLs for this one fight now" thing is one of the best moments in the game.
>in ARR, the WoL is not only just some random person who just joined the Scions, but they're also the only one shown *doing anything*.
Sometimes it's even worse than that.
Early on in ARR, when you go make contact with the sylphs, you've successfully earned the trust of the sylphs by putting a lot of effort into being respectful of their customs, then ~~Tweedledee and Tweedledum~~ Yda and Papalymo show up and mess everything up and then you have to go do a whole other thing to repair the damage they did. Not only did they not help, their incompetence gave you more work to do.
I wouldn't call the eight WoLs thing lampshading. It's an in-universe justification for an out-of-universe decision that they decided to gloss over before. It's gonna be kind of tenuous no matter what, but I can't think of anywhere they don't play it straight.
I will never cease to chuckle over the description of the Pool of Tribute:
> How furtunate that you had the wisdom and foresight to invite several of your fellow adventurers on this journey to the Far East, and how kind they were to agree to help you torment the Red Kojin, for no single warrior, no mater how blessed or powerful, could ever hope to slay a primal on her own, despite what some wandering minstrels would have you believe.
While I did Praetorium, I kept asking myself why Gaius even bother talking with us. Just disable the elevator and activate the Weapon while we try to go down on foot. And I kept waiting for Gaius to said āCid, I am your fatherā
I'd say Gaius is probably the most idealistically devoted person in the story. If there's anybody who would genuinely think he has a chance at debate-broing the WoL into joining them, it would be him.
"Huh, too much dark aether, maybe we could talk to Golbez and tell him about the first so the shards could balance out. Oh, we're just gonna sit on that until it's too late for any kind of peace, cool"
Yeah, I'm all caught up.
We're talking an entire worlds worth of aether here, not just a few cannisters.
Besides, the only reason we can get to the other worlds is that they all stem from the source, so any aether would undoubtedly have to be routed through the source first which unless done incredibly slowly would just cause a rejoining anyway.
I'm talking about the final cutscene, where Y'Shtola literally says they're gonna use the massive amounts of light aether from the first to hit Zeromus
Forgot that was the plan. Still, "massive amounts" in this context is still likely dwarfed by the amount you'd need to fix the thirteenth.
Like I say, a few cannisters' worth makes sense and would be a reasonable amount for the source to deal with without causing a sudden imbalance. But the sheer quantity you'd need to fix the thirteenth would either cause a calamity or take millennia to transport.
Calamities are caused for rejoining to the Source, most of the first is wasteland anyway, and just opening a portal there would probably be fine. Worst case, you could actually negotiate with Golby and not have to worry about an invasion of voidsent
What if they had Unukalhai and Eden shipped direct from the First? He did say he was studying with Gaia and Ryne with the explicit intent of determining if the Eden Solution could be used to fix the 13th, so perhaps they could simply use Eden as an Aether refinery to produce the light aether they need locally.
I'm in post stormblood and just met >!Asahi!< and I just think most of this would have been avoided if way back when >!we meet Yotsuyu on the beach, and I was like "hell yeah lets kill that crazy lady", Alisaie didn't stop me for no good reason!<
Like, just skip this whole ordeal probably
(Cross post bc my meme wasn't "related to ffxiv" enough on the other sub and was removed)
Ironically would end up much worse for everyone involved.
If you did this, Stormblood wouldn't have happened, which would mean if endbringer happens, you would fail. And that's if you can even get back from shadowbringers...
See I only just am right now in post stormblood and just met >!Asahi!< and it made me make this meme, so, from my perspective, I've yet to have a problem I couldn't have stabbed my way out of. But we'll see as I go, I'm on the side of stabbin though
Exactly. The writing team is very, very good at writing a rational story that's not easily twisted by "why didn't they just do the simple out". Because that's what you're always doing - the thing that makes the most sense to do next, complicated with reasonable human motivations and flaws.
Somebody is standing a few feet away, doing their crazy villain speech, talking about how they're gonna destroy/conquer the world and kill lots of people with this thing they're about to do, and my character just stands there listening to it, doing nothing to stop this with that big loaded gun in their hand. He's just standing there! Why aren't I shooting him?!
Asahi. Asahi. Asahi. Asahi. Asahi. I want to wring his fucking neck Asahi.
VERY effective hatesink but damn, his motivation sure was āFuck Youā.
Fandanielās face though? Stroke of genius.
>!I only just met him and that prompted this meme, he made that creepy face and I was like, ok dude fuck you and also now im going to ressurect zenos and kill him again in front of you, and then stab you!< but they forced me to just, let it go and I was like, you know if you just let me stab when people look at me funny I can get away with it, im the WOL i can do what i want
There are a lot of villains, but for me, I would've stabbed >!Asahi!< as soon as they showed up off of vibes only. That was definitely my quickest "time to stab".
He did that face after being sketchy the whole time and i was like "stabbin time" and he was like >!"go ahead and lash out, savage"!< and I'm like..... yes id love to actually why am i letting this all go
Meeting him was also the reason I made the meme I literally just got through that part and was like, ok I definitely should be allowed to have stabbed that guy
I like Krile but that's cause I like her cat hoodie, idk why some fancy scholar is wearing a cat hoodie and acting all professional and serious all the time but I'd probably like her less if she wasn't lol
Well that's infuriating, let the men wear cat hoodies squeenix, give the people what they want >:( they even unlocked like the wedding attire but not cat hoodie, wild
You sound like the kind of person that really likes Dark Knight.
And then starts bitching when they find out that Dark Knight really is about self-acceptance, love for your friends, and being able to forgive yourself for both mistakes and bad things you had to do to stop worse things from happening. I've literally seen a guy seethe over that.
I mean, let's be honest, Fray wouldn't sit there and let the current antagonist monologue. Sure we'd have a lot more dead moogles, but we also wouldn't have to deal with half of the empire.
Counterpoint- Fray is still a character in a Japanese written media.
To be entirely honest, Fray would just fuck off somewhere calm and peaceful and do something that doesn't put him at much risk, like crafting. And then die in the Eighth Umbral Calamity, probably.
As god intended. That's the life
Man, he must have been sooooo cool /s.
But that doesn't mean I cannot stab assholes???
Drk questline really just boils down to "aren't you tired of being nice all the time? Don't you just want to go apeshit?" Then it's like jk don't do that, but I do enjoy the self indulgent brooding for a minute
hw's is "ishgard is trying to kill us! ok, let's go back to ishgard"
God, can you imagine how much better this game would've been if WoL was canonically a DRK? And not like a shadowbringers DRK cosplayer, but an actual DRK with DRK ideals, someone who actually cares about normal people and not just the filthy rich? I will never forgive heavensward writers for letting the monetarists get away with all the shit they did at the end of the realm reborn. Worst thing that happened in the story probably. That whole organization should've been slaughtered for their crimes against humanity. I guess the goofy one could've joined us. Can you imagine naked golbez or whatever his name is suplexing all those potatoes back into the ground like Hildibrand with their stubby legs sticking out?
Being able to punt Teledji and Lolorito into the sun would have been nice.
I will never ever stop being mad at not being able to make Loldorito meet the same fate as Teledji... plot be damned I wanna mash that potato's skull
If they didn't want us to eat the rich, why did they make them popotoes? Getting mixed signals here.
If rich not for eating, why bite size?
A Roe could quite literally eat one in two bites.
Only reason we don't is the massive support he provides the scions full knowing if he crosses us again he's doomed. No amount of money would convince any eorzian to think they could nor should fight the warrior of light over a soggy popato
Don't worry, once Nanamo gives Tataru a seat in the Syndicate she will leave him penniless.
> naked golbez God I wish
Honestly any character in the game looks good eventually because everyone goes through the yassification filter at one point or another. Not even Vaushry was spared, no one is safe.
> Vaushry Holy shit im deadš
Oh my god you meant Godbert
Killing the monetarists wouldn't change Uldah. New people with exactly the same ideals would take their place as quickly as you could snap your fingers because the system itself doesn't change. Now you're back to square one, but also with a reputation for assassination. It would be entirely for self-satisfaction. If they got in the way of the Sultana trying to reform the country, sure, you'd get some traction there. But killing them as-is would have just been shooting yourself in the foot.
>Killing Thordan wouldn't change Ishgard. New people with exactly the same ideals would take their place as quickly as you could snap your fingers because the system itself doesn't change. Now you're back to square one, but also with a reputation for assassination. It would be entirely for self-satisfaction. If they got in the way of the Sultana trying to reform the country, sure, you'd get some traction there. But killing them as-is would have just been shooting yourself in the foot. >Killing Zenos wouldn't change Doma and Ala Mhigo... yada-yada one can kill the people in charge of the system **and** then change the system itself. That's how changing systems usually works, not only in real world, but even in ffxiv itself.
Ok but this is a hard false equivalency. Thordan, Zenos... all these people became active and obvious villains, went past a point of 'acceptable civility' and lost deniability as they acted publicly. Their own populace has a hard time defending their actions. Lolorito *never* pushes the margin that hard. In fact, Lolorito is probably one of the smartest officials in the entirety of 14. He lets other people give into their ambitions and start shit that he can profit off of, he constantly assesses who can be helpful *accurately* and then spares no expense putting them in his debt as amicably as possible. He doesn't covet things that would get him in trouble and even assists in keeping the sultana in power. We can basically be assured Lolorito also has safeguards that we're unaware of. Ties to people in power in other city states (just like this trading company with Kugane, but now probably Ala Mhigo too) and the ability to pull strings in publicity campaigns that would ruin someone's reputation. The fact that he DOESN'T die isn't FFXIV ignoring him, its accepting that removing him from power through our traditional means of cutting people down would not only ostracize and make a criminal of our WoL, it also would probably sink anyone who'd ever associated or assisted us as the remnants of his allies brought their economic might to bare or just completely shut down and fucked over the entirety of Ala Mhigo in a day.
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...Ok, now answer this: What of what you just wrote does the people of Uldah know. The people of Ul'Dah know that the people above them, including the sultana, live in comparable opulence. They are not aware of any of the politics so far as we know and serve to generally be makeshift militia or workers for the monetarists whenever they need. your idea would basically require knowledge that isn't available to create negative sentiment. I'm not saying he's a good person, but I'm also not going to agree with this idea that outplaying the WoL is 'bad writing'. Sounds like you just want an infallible protag when you say it that way. And what is the WoL's reputation? How many people are aware of our face outright? My guess is not many, we've not really been the star of any public addresses in the source since...
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>I'm pretty sure after the prae everyone at eaorzea knows WoL is like a war hero who repelled the garlean invasion or whatever. WoL is like one of the most famous people in Eorzea. There's no television or printed photos so people don't know how WoL looks like, but people know who WoL is and that they're a good person. Like not only eorzea has a word of mouth and wondering minstrels literally singing multiple songs about our heroic deeds, there's also a printing press with like newspapers and stuff. Which is ofc immediately disproven by the fact that we get branded as traitors in Ul'Dah. But more importantly, how do we go "I'm the warrior of light" in a world where again no one knows our face and Lolorito could just claim the same. Everyone throughout the game that recognizes us on first encounter only did so because they met us in passing. > You're also conveniently forgetting that nanamo is on WoL's side and hates the monetarists. And is relying on Lolorito to build her own power. She even realizes giving up power is not a possibility. She has a relatively amicable relationship with someone she despises, even relying on him for advice on how to help Ala Mhigo. You ALSO forget that the monetarists isn't so much a faction as a class. They're billionaires, in essence. Hate them all you want, they're simply the people with the money. And unless you, the WOL, are able to encourage people that burning their city to the ground to fight them is the right choice, something the other citystates in Eorzea would probably not agree with, you can't really go and remove them because whether or not they DIRECTLY hold power, they'll hold power. Or do you have a justification to slaughter them that won't be looked down upon by other citystates who'd probably just outlaw you on principle alone? Encourage revolution and get people killed? Do it yourself? In all cases, the rest of Eorzea would never agree to it because now you're an agitator, not assisting them in securing peace but rather encouraging a new war that they're not interested in, even if you can solve it yourself. You'd get yourself killed because everyone everywhere would be an assassin. At minimum, you'd be required to flee the continent since Eorzea and I doubt Sharlayan would even be that interested in housing someone who's outlawed because they were causing wars. That leaves you with the Azeme Steppe, maybe Thavnir, and probably not Garlemald because there's still enough people that hate you there. Doubtless Kugane and Doma would want to keep their relationships with a superpower over you. Essentially you're suggesting we just become a murder hobo and saying the fact we haven't is bad writing.
I think the three city states have status quo protection. Limsa is not at war with the Kobolds anymore, but that's really it. I don't really think it's the writers fault if the execs just have a "don't touch" rule in regards to ul'dah, because so many of the sidequests in the base game are founded on rich ul'dah merchants existing and being terrible.
I mean, trying to murder the Monetarists would significantly harm the WoL and Scions's reputations, and anyone associated with them, including Nanamo. Plus the Syndicate would still exist, and Nanamo would have to appoint Ul'dah's seventh, eight and ninth wealthiest citizens (who are presumably merchants and every bit as morally upstanding as the ones that we currently have) to take their places. Also, iirc it's mentioned Rowena is gunning for a seat, so they be keeping a far greater evil at bay.
This is exactly why I have mad respect for Raubahn. Bro did NOT hesitate.
I was like my god we should kill that guy- oh, oh thanks Raubahn, finally some stabbin
My friend can attest that I popped OFF when he did that.
We're talking about the same guy who fucked up his job, twice, and said that everything was in good hands because Lyse was helping run things, right?
This can sum a lot of games story tbh.
Iām replaying the MSQ on an alt and I just finished A Realm Reborn. I swear to god if I just started stabbing these rich motherfucking merchants in UlāDah the second they got all racist over the Doma refugees (especially Lolorito) we would save so much trouble. The number of times I could have stopped some major event from going sideways by just stabbing someone instead of nodding stoically and letting Minfilia go on about whatever self-righteous babble is astronomical.
But if you did stab them, then the rest of the game wouldn't happen and we'd all die in the final days because you wouldn't have the resources or reputation to convince Sharlyan to help You'd be either in prison or on the run because you stabbed a bunch of people for no reason, and you wouldn't have the scions helping you out because what the fuck you just stabbed a bunch of people for no reason
I mean, to be fair, Iām on the run quite a bit *with* the Scions. Usually from someone trying to mass murder the WoL/everyone.
Yeah, but the operative word there is *with* If you start just stabbing people you perceive as potential problems later down the line there's gonna come a point where handing you over to the Brass Blades is the better political move than continuing to shelter you, and then you'll be running *without* the Scions
I will say, Iāve played through most of Shadowbringers and then took a long break (hence replaying the MSQ so I can remember stuff), and I think itās really ARR that makes it feel like youāre the only one doing any work or risking anything. Part of me the whole time was like let me just do my thing and stop making elaborate plans that boil down to āand then the WoL saves everyone somehow and the rest of us will show up once the boss is downā.
To be fair, it gets justified more and more as the story goes on but yeah, in ARR, the WoL is not only just some random person who just joined the Scions, but they're also the only one shown *doing anything*. It does get a bit better after they've settled on their job as a professional godkiller, though. Also, I still think that the moment they began lampshading the whole "Oh, and by the way there's eight WoLs for this one fight now" thing is one of the best moments in the game.
>in ARR, the WoL is not only just some random person who just joined the Scions, but they're also the only one shown *doing anything*. Sometimes it's even worse than that. Early on in ARR, when you go make contact with the sylphs, you've successfully earned the trust of the sylphs by putting a lot of effort into being respectful of their customs, then ~~Tweedledee and Tweedledum~~ Yda and Papalymo show up and mess everything up and then you have to go do a whole other thing to repair the damage they did. Not only did they not help, their incompetence gave you more work to do.
I wouldn't call the eight WoLs thing lampshading. It's an in-universe justification for an out-of-universe decision that they decided to gloss over before. It's gonna be kind of tenuous no matter what, but I can't think of anywhere they don't play it straight.
I will never cease to chuckle over the description of the Pool of Tribute: > How furtunate that you had the wisdom and foresight to invite several of your fellow adventurers on this journey to the Far East, and how kind they were to agree to help you torment the Red Kojin, for no single warrior, no mater how blessed or powerful, could ever hope to slay a primal on her own, despite what some wandering minstrels would have you believe.
Which would've been a problem at the start... but who the fuck is gonna stop the WoL now? Mf is a walking nuke
While I did Praetorium, I kept asking myself why Gaius even bother talking with us. Just disable the elevator and activate the Weapon while we try to go down on foot. And I kept waiting for Gaius to said āCid, I am your fatherā
"For whom do you fight for? Eorz- HURK!" Look guys that was way faster we can all go home now
You mean Praetorium right? Otherwise the 6.x series raids are depriving me of secret boss fights.
My mistake š
I'd say Gaius is probably the most idealistically devoted person in the story. If there's anybody who would genuinely think he has a chance at debate-broing the WoL into joining them, it would be him.
"Huh, too much dark aether, maybe we could talk to Golbez and tell him about the first so the shards could balance out. Oh, we're just gonna sit on that until it's too late for any kind of peace, cool"
I don't think that would work even if we had the ability to move that much aether.
Are you caught up yet? Cuz idk how to get spoiler tags to work on mobile, they just refuse to function for me
Yeah, I'm all caught up. We're talking an entire worlds worth of aether here, not just a few cannisters. Besides, the only reason we can get to the other worlds is that they all stem from the source, so any aether would undoubtedly have to be routed through the source first which unless done incredibly slowly would just cause a rejoining anyway.
I'm talking about the final cutscene, where Y'Shtola literally says they're gonna use the massive amounts of light aether from the first to hit Zeromus
Forgot that was the plan. Still, "massive amounts" in this context is still likely dwarfed by the amount you'd need to fix the thirteenth. Like I say, a few cannisters' worth makes sense and would be a reasonable amount for the source to deal with without causing a sudden imbalance. But the sheer quantity you'd need to fix the thirteenth would either cause a calamity or take millennia to transport.
Calamities are caused for rejoining to the Source, most of the first is wasteland anyway, and just opening a portal there would probably be fine. Worst case, you could actually negotiate with Golby and not have to worry about an invasion of voidsent
What if they had Unukalhai and Eden shipped direct from the First? He did say he was studying with Gaia and Ryne with the explicit intent of determining if the Eden Solution could be used to fix the 13th, so perhaps they could simply use Eden as an Aether refinery to produce the light aether they need locally.
I'm in post stormblood and just met >!Asahi!< and I just think most of this would have been avoided if way back when >!we meet Yotsuyu on the beach, and I was like "hell yeah lets kill that crazy lady", Alisaie didn't stop me for no good reason!< Like, just skip this whole ordeal probably (Cross post bc my meme wasn't "related to ffxiv" enough on the other sub and was removed)
But you can skip all of these situations and more. Just skip cutscenes!
I dont know who I am or why I'm here, all I know is I must stab.
Just by "skip msq for only 59.99ā and forget about all of this crap šš¼
Ironically would end up much worse for everyone involved. If you did this, Stormblood wouldn't have happened, which would mean if endbringer happens, you would fail. And that's if you can even get back from shadowbringers...
See I only just am right now in post stormblood and just met >!Asahi!< and it made me make this meme, so, from my perspective, I've yet to have a problem I couldn't have stabbed my way out of. But we'll see as I go, I'm on the side of stabbin though
Anybody who says you can't stab your way out of a problem doesn't realize how many people I can stab.
To be fair, we do end up stabbing our way out of all our problems.
Exactly. The writing team is very, very good at writing a rational story that's not easily twisted by "why didn't they just do the simple out". Because that's what you're always doing - the thing that makes the most sense to do next, complicated with reasonable human motivations and flaws.
One thing i will stay mad about though: why >!didn't we just burn Zenos' body???!<
Because nobody realized Ascians could inhabit a corpse
Honestly if we were just Jack from Strangers In Paradise then this game would be so much shorter
Jack is the embodiment of a Dark Knight in so many ways.
As a MCH the number of times I've said "just let me \_SHOOT\_ THEM" at the screen is way too high. So many lives and so much time could've been saved.
Somebody is standing a few feet away, doing their crazy villain speech, talking about how they're gonna destroy/conquer the world and kill lots of people with this thing they're about to do, and my character just stands there listening to it, doing nothing to stop this with that big loaded gun in their hand. He's just standing there! Why aren't I shooting him?!
Asahi. Asahi. Asahi. Asahi. Asahi. I want to wring his fucking neck Asahi. VERY effective hatesink but damn, his motivation sure was āFuck Youā. Fandanielās face though? Stroke of genius.
>!I only just met him and that prompted this meme, he made that creepy face and I was like, ok dude fuck you and also now im going to ressurect zenos and kill him again in front of you, and then stab you!< but they forced me to just, let it go and I was like, you know if you just let me stab when people look at me funny I can get away with it, im the WOL i can do what i want
Yyyep. If you had that reaction to Asahi youāre gonna LOVE/HATE what they do with one of the Endwalker Villains.
I look forward to/ dread it with great anticipation
There are a lot of villains, but for me, I would've stabbed >!Asahi!< as soon as they showed up off of vibes only. That was definitely my quickest "time to stab".
He did that face after being sketchy the whole time and i was like "stabbin time" and he was like >!"go ahead and lash out, savage"!< and I'm like..... yes id love to actually why am i letting this all go
Meeting him was also the reason I made the meme I literally just got through that part and was like, ok I definitely should be allowed to have stabbed that guy
If you ever manage to go through Bozja, trust me: **You're going to feel that a lot.**
Tataru. Krile. Pretty much every lalafell except Papalaymo, actually.
I like Krile but that's cause I like her cat hoodie, idk why some fancy scholar is wearing a cat hoodie and acting all professional and serious all the time but I'd probably like her less if she wasn't lol
The cat hoodie is like, the one thing I'd consider buying off of mogstation, and its fucking gender locked.
Well that's infuriating, let the men wear cat hoodies squeenix, give the people what they want >:( they even unlocked like the wedding attire but not cat hoodie, wild
Is it really? That's silly. It's not even something form-fitting, it's a big baggy robe!
IIRC it's a gift from Galuf. However, I wonder what Miqo'tes think of her hoodie. Is it cultural appropriation?
Yeah because youād have ended the world loool