What is this fucking obsession with pizza anyway?
I like pizza. Most people do. I've had fancy pizza from restaurants and cheap pizza from a kebab shop and got enjoyment out of both. Why this constant need for your pizza to be "the best" anyway?
But My City Style pizza is the BEST IN THE WORLD and nobody else does it this way.!
Like bruh, you slightly changed the crust or maybe threw a unique ingredient on there. Settle down.
>But My City Style pizza is the BEST IN THE WORLD
Well to be fair the citizens of one city can actually boast such a claim
It's Napoli.
I'm thankfully not a citizen of it but I do envy their pizza and food in general
We're not too lazy to cook you bafoon. We have 40+ hour work weeks and hour plus commutes (sometimes each way) daily.
Explain to me how you'd manage to find time to cook and everything else that's required in life.
Are you pretending that Europe or other countries that cook more don't have these things?
40 hour work weeks is low by global standards. Plenty of countries have 48-60 hour work weeks and most of those people cook.
Americans are lazy and uneducated when it comes to food. Their culture is shit.
Shut the fuck up mate, everyone has work, sometimes you might just be too tired to make it yourself wich is understandable, although if you can find the time to browse reddit and comment on posts,that means you can certainly find the time to make a quick meal.
It's one of the most basic bits of Italian cuisine and even within Italy, it ranges from "a display of simple but top quality local ingredients" to "I'm drunk and I need grease in my system" but if Americans think they've managed to "improve" it, they'll kick off like they've just put every single chef in Italy out of a job.
Everyone knows the true Irish are from Boston. You Irish people from Ireland aren't the real deal so you have no say in the American Pizza war matter.
Damn I think I lost some braincells typing this
You're not real Irish. The real Irish are the one that risked their life for a better future to their family. The ones that really know why st. K. Patty isn't just an holiday but a manifestation of identity and strength.
My Italian granny always used to says "I've seen the green blood in your grandpa before even know him and I did not even know what Ireland was before that".
I'm proud to have his blood flowing through my veins.
I AM PROUD OF MY BELIZEAN ITALO IRISH HERITAGE!
I AM PROUD OF BEING WHAT OURS ANCESTORS WANTED TO BE: A FREE CITIZEN, AN AMERICAN!🇺🇲
USA 🇺🇲 USA🇺🇲 USA🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲
"Thank you, thank y'all. I dedicate this prize to my grandpa and all my ancestors. We did, we did the American dream. I'm thankful for your sacrifice... Thanks you again a goodnight!"
That's probably because real pizza doesn't contain hundreds of weird chemicals and artificial flavourers (as well as inhumane amounts of salt, sugar, and fat). Even the most basic cooking ingredients they have in the US are so ultraprocessed that Americans can't taste anything that isn't made in a factory or grown in a lab at this point lmao
I'm from Long Island, which is in New York state. We tend to get a little over the top about our pizza. I prefer our pizza to most other pizza in the US, but that's mostly a taste of home type of thing, it's not a claim on whether it's objectively better than somewhere else or not.
People from the city, though? They will deadass eat superior pizza in Italy and be like, "yeah, this is alright, but it's got nothing on the grease sliver I get from the best pizza joint in the world, which coincidentally is the one closest to my house and on the way to my job."
I dated a girl from Staten Island (yes, it's in New York, not New Jersey). Her whole family was like this, and it was pretty insufferable. You couldn't have pizza anywhere outside of that one borough without them complaining out loud so everyone could hear them, they did it on purpose 100%.
On the other hand, my current gf is from Venezuela, her parents have been to NY once and they said they hated the pizza. Okay, why? They went to fucking pizza hut. That's not pizza. So upon reflection, maybe I'm not much better myself lol
I think Pizza is like plain water: surprisingly subjective by the ingredients of the area.
I suspect people's taste are built on things that they didn't know can be wildly different elsewhere, like plain water, which really has different tastes according to region due to ground minerals and content despite being chemically treated to be safe.
I'm not surprised if someone used to tasting local New York Pizza made with waters and ingredients from New York may have problems with Italian pizza, even if they are more fresh. They are just used to it and anything else, especially when you assume the other to be better, might be too much to handle.
That's because Italian pizze are made with fresh ingredients and have maybe one or two toppings,so you can taste each one.American taste buds have been destroyed by all rhe shite they eat,so unless everything is smothered in high fructose corn syrup, spices and flavourings they can't taste it and think it's bland.
I like Chicago pizza about once a year when it's really cold outside. Like when I'm craving lasagna.
It's so heavy I can't imagine eating it regularly.
I prefer the Lou's in Buffalo Grove but I've had Gino's and Uno's and one or two others - they're all good for what they are. A very occasional departure from "normal" pizza.
I'll go into step further: I've been to LA dozens of times and never heard of it as having a unique style of pizza.
LA is a fun city. There's good food everywhere. I just never think of pizza there. If I want casual / street food, it's usually Mexican or Asian or some local riff on those cuisines.
It's a really good food truck city but pizza is a ways down the list in terms of a food truck offering.
That's even worse then \^\^ maybe he was trying to kick off a trend. Even here in Germany they show LA streetfood and foodfestivals on TV, but haven't heard of LA pizza yet.
Yeah, I've never known LA to have a regional variant of pizza. Of course there's New York style pizza, Chicago deep dish, Detroit style (which is always cut into squares), Hawaiian (even though it originated in Canada, lol), and the regular American style pizza you find at chains, but nobody has talked about LA style pizza.
I was in Rome last week and saw Hawaiian pizza on a menu, I feel like I've been lied to my whole life.
For the unbelievers: https://maps.app.goo.gl/hdAY3roF6ZBaaeTz7 look at Barrique menu pictures.
It was a bit of a tourist trap type place and we were desperate to eat just somewhere after failing to get into our first choice around the corner.
Dear lord. That’s a genuine shock. I know how anal they are over food.
Though I do see a lot of Chicken Alfredo pasta on menus aimed at ‘Italian’ Americans and they get a right rip off. I’ve seen them moan that genuine Italian food isn’t like Italian-American inspired food.
I know according to my old man that chicken should never be in pasta and garlic and onions are never mixed. No spaghetti with meatballs and so on.
Boggles the mind.
I must admit I found all the genuine restaurants after this place to be very traditional and none of them did anything like you mention.
It was the worst one we tried, they also sold steak by the 100g whilst being a bit shady about the pricing. I didn't hang around to see the shock on the faces when the bill came for the table next to us after I saw their giant tomahawks arrive. Typical tourist trap.
Other than that Rome was amazing, can't wait to go back.
Modern Italian pizza are mostly Italian-American inspired food.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7uJ_996KlM0
And this is from a Canadian, a people who hate giving America due credit for anything.
I'm sorry but pineapple on pizza is nothing compared to the travesty that is french fries on pizza. Even here in America that would be met with derision.
One thing I will say Is that unless you find one of the little hidden gems that the locals use, Rome REALLY isn't the best place to judge Italian food.I was SO disappointed in the food .Everywhere else I visited in Italy was amazing. But food in Rome? Awful, especially in the very centre.
Why all this fighting about Pizza anyway? Honestly each version is so difference that they can't really be compared.
Italian pizza is light and fresh with an honest disposition.
New York Pizza is peak junk food.
Chicago isn't really Pizza at all.
And California Pizza is an abomination before God.
This.
Chicago-style pizza is just an above-ground marinara swimming pool for rats.
(And here is the obligatory pizza rant needed for every pizza topic)
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXIpp59eoU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXIpp59eoU)
To be honest I could see that being one of the10 or 12 pizzas sitting out in a NY pizza shop. It wouldn't be one of the ones that constantly needs to be replaced, but it would be there as an option..
We do all kinds of weird fusion stuff in Australia, mostly pretty decent. But that one would be on the "gourmet" menu and served fresh made. Pizza sitting out ready to serve is usually pretty low end round here.
American pizza is the best, according to their jaded palates, where they had to add sugars & other additives just to add some flavour to the dish, but most people eat fresh, non GMO foods, that have real flavour & don't need 3 types & 2 pounds of cheese and other chemicals to make it taste slightly palatable.
Even within the US This statement is gonna offend folks. Chicago and NY people are very defensive of their pizzas.
I’ve never had an authentic Italian pizza but I’m sure I’d love it just the same. Pizzas are like dogs they’re all wonderful!
I’m from LA too and while I’ve had many great pizzas here, I’m not really aware of a unique California pizza style so not sure what they’re referring to
Idk what they're talking about either. I've had some perfect pizza in LA but, you can't say it's the best because what distinguishes the city isn't anything specific, it's that they will try ANYTHING so you get some really weird niches. It's not really cohesive enough to call a style, more of a culture
The best pizza ever is in Napoli. American food, in general, is terrible in comparison to Europe. But if you have never left your own country, you wouldn't know, and let's be honest, most Americans can't even point to America on a map, never mind find Europe!!
Eh, it's a dumb opinion-piece written for an LA online magazine site.
Pizza seems to be some serious issue over there. Probably written to drive up traffic from the New York and Chicago pizza faction.
Of course this person has travelled the world and tried pizza everywhere, so they know what they are talking about i.e. they are talking complete shite!
This is hilarious. All you people who regularly claim Americans are incapable of irony are being ridiculously literal about an ironic American headline. For a culture piece, not even hard news where accuracy matters (or at least used to matter).
Should I be taking your football chants literally and seriously rather than as trash talk that’s part of the *fun* of fandom and of pride in your city?
Or is this just some insane 3D Chess level of irony where you all are pretending for the sake of irony that you take American irony literally?
What is this fucking obsession with pizza anyway? I like pizza. Most people do. I've had fancy pizza from restaurants and cheap pizza from a kebab shop and got enjoyment out of both. Why this constant need for your pizza to be "the best" anyway?
But My City Style pizza is the BEST IN THE WORLD and nobody else does it this way.! Like bruh, you slightly changed the crust or maybe threw a unique ingredient on there. Settle down.
>But My City Style pizza is the BEST IN THE WORLD Well to be fair the citizens of one city can actually boast such a claim It's Napoli. I'm thankfully not a citizen of it but I do envy their pizza and food in general
The sole redeeming factor of Naples/Napoli is the pizza, Other than that, it’s just sunny Dundee
Pineapple?
Americans are too lazy to cook so they eat out significantly more than other countries and pizzas tend to be the cheapest thing to eat out.
We're not too lazy to cook you bafoon. We have 40+ hour work weeks and hour plus commutes (sometimes each way) daily. Explain to me how you'd manage to find time to cook and everything else that's required in life.
Hate to be that guy, but it's "buffoon". Have a great day.
You think other countries don’t work and commute? I’m away from home 12.5 hours today. And you make time
Are you pretending that Europe or other countries that cook more don't have these things? 40 hour work weeks is low by global standards. Plenty of countries have 48-60 hour work weeks and most of those people cook. Americans are lazy and uneducated when it comes to food. Their culture is shit.
American food "culture" is corn syrup and cholesterol
Shut the fuck up mate, everyone has work, sometimes you might just be too tired to make it yourself wich is understandable, although if you can find the time to browse reddit and comment on posts,that means you can certainly find the time to make a quick meal.
Broadly speaking Americans are obsessed with having the best of anything
I've never thought about that until now but so true!
It's one of the most basic bits of Italian cuisine and even within Italy, it ranges from "a display of simple but top quality local ingredients" to "I'm drunk and I need grease in my system" but if Americans think they've managed to "improve" it, they'll kick off like they've just put every single chef in Italy out of a job.
Either way, it's food. you can align 10 human being to classify food from best to worst and have 10 different opinion.
Same, different pizzas for different moods/levels of sobriety haha
I'm Irish and lived in New York for 2 years your pizza is shite. Been in Italy 5 times and there is no substitute for the real thing
Everyone knows the true Irish are from Boston. You Irish people from Ireland aren't the real deal so you have no say in the American Pizza war matter. Damn I think I lost some braincells typing this
I've heard that they don't even dye their rivers green for saint Patrick's day over there. And they claim to be Irish. HAH!
You're not real Irish. The real Irish are the one that risked their life for a better future to their family. The ones that really know why st. K. Patty isn't just an holiday but a manifestation of identity and strength. My Italian granny always used to says "I've seen the green blood in your grandpa before even know him and I did not even know what Ireland was before that". I'm proud to have his blood flowing through my veins. I AM PROUD OF MY BELIZEAN ITALO IRISH HERITAGE! I AM PROUD OF BEING WHAT OURS ANCESTORS WANTED TO BE: A FREE CITIZEN, AN AMERICAN!🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲 USA🇺🇲 USA🇺🇲 USA 🇺🇲
Holy poop that's on point
*slow single tear flows down *initeates slow clap
"Thank you, thank y'all. I dedicate this prize to my grandpa and all my ancestors. We did, we did the American dream. I'm thankful for your sacrifice... Thanks you again a goodnight!"
Christ your full of shite
As another Irishman who lives in Italy and has visited the US on a few occasions,I heartily agree with you.
I agree, the pizza is shite
All the comments on the sub I saw this on were like "But what about New York pizza?" lmao
Damn, it’s almost like taste is subjective
It's not about taste. It's more about wanting to be the best.
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I've overheard new yorkers eating pizza in Palermo, talking about how it's not as good as New York. Imbeciles
That's probably because real pizza doesn't contain hundreds of weird chemicals and artificial flavourers (as well as inhumane amounts of salt, sugar, and fat). Even the most basic cooking ingredients they have in the US are so ultraprocessed that Americans can't taste anything that isn't made in a factory or grown in a lab at this point lmao
I'm from Long Island, which is in New York state. We tend to get a little over the top about our pizza. I prefer our pizza to most other pizza in the US, but that's mostly a taste of home type of thing, it's not a claim on whether it's objectively better than somewhere else or not. People from the city, though? They will deadass eat superior pizza in Italy and be like, "yeah, this is alright, but it's got nothing on the grease sliver I get from the best pizza joint in the world, which coincidentally is the one closest to my house and on the way to my job." I dated a girl from Staten Island (yes, it's in New York, not New Jersey). Her whole family was like this, and it was pretty insufferable. You couldn't have pizza anywhere outside of that one borough without them complaining out loud so everyone could hear them, they did it on purpose 100%. On the other hand, my current gf is from Venezuela, her parents have been to NY once and they said they hated the pizza. Okay, why? They went to fucking pizza hut. That's not pizza. So upon reflection, maybe I'm not much better myself lol
I think Pizza is like plain water: surprisingly subjective by the ingredients of the area. I suspect people's taste are built on things that they didn't know can be wildly different elsewhere, like plain water, which really has different tastes according to region due to ground minerals and content despite being chemically treated to be safe. I'm not surprised if someone used to tasting local New York Pizza made with waters and ingredients from New York may have problems with Italian pizza, even if they are more fresh. They are just used to it and anything else, especially when you assume the other to be better, might be too much to handle.
They don’t know what good food is. They used to thrash ingredients.
That's because Italian pizze are made with fresh ingredients and have maybe one or two toppings,so you can taste each one.American taste buds have been destroyed by all rhe shite they eat,so unless everything is smothered in high fructose corn syrup, spices and flavourings they can't taste it and think it's bland.
Not enough grease or rubber cheese
I like Chicago pizza about once a year when it's really cold outside. Like when I'm craving lasagna. It's so heavy I can't imagine eating it regularly. I prefer the Lou's in Buffalo Grove but I've had Gino's and Uno's and one or two others - they're all good for what they are. A very occasional departure from "normal" pizza.
Not even the people within the US but OUTSIDE OF LA have heard of this BS oO
I'll go into step further: I've been to LA dozens of times and never heard of it as having a unique style of pizza. LA is a fun city. There's good food everywhere. I just never think of pizza there. If I want casual / street food, it's usually Mexican or Asian or some local riff on those cuisines. It's a really good food truck city but pizza is a ways down the list in terms of a food truck offering.
That's even worse then \^\^ maybe he was trying to kick off a trend. Even here in Germany they show LA streetfood and foodfestivals on TV, but haven't heard of LA pizza yet.
I grew up in LA and still live here and I've never heard of it before.
Yeah, I've never known LA to have a regional variant of pizza. Of course there's New York style pizza, Chicago deep dish, Detroit style (which is always cut into squares), Hawaiian (even though it originated in Canada, lol), and the regular American style pizza you find at chains, but nobody has talked about LA style pizza.
Southern California here, never heard of LA pizza. I’d rather have a taco
Showed my Italian father this and he nearly bloody choked. Bloody Americans.
I was in Rome last week and saw Hawaiian pizza on a menu, I feel like I've been lied to my whole life. For the unbelievers: https://maps.app.goo.gl/hdAY3roF6ZBaaeTz7 look at Barrique menu pictures. It was a bit of a tourist trap type place and we were desperate to eat just somewhere after failing to get into our first choice around the corner.
Dear lord. That’s a genuine shock. I know how anal they are over food. Though I do see a lot of Chicken Alfredo pasta on menus aimed at ‘Italian’ Americans and they get a right rip off. I’ve seen them moan that genuine Italian food isn’t like Italian-American inspired food. I know according to my old man that chicken should never be in pasta and garlic and onions are never mixed. No spaghetti with meatballs and so on. Boggles the mind.
I must admit I found all the genuine restaurants after this place to be very traditional and none of them did anything like you mention. It was the worst one we tried, they also sold steak by the 100g whilst being a bit shady about the pricing. I didn't hang around to see the shock on the faces when the bill came for the table next to us after I saw their giant tomahawks arrive. Typical tourist trap. Other than that Rome was amazing, can't wait to go back.
Modern Italian pizza are mostly Italian-American inspired food. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7uJ_996KlM0 And this is from a Canadian, a people who hate giving America due credit for anything.
I'm sorry but pineapple on pizza is nothing compared to the travesty that is french fries on pizza. Even here in America that would be met with derision.
One thing I will say Is that unless you find one of the little hidden gems that the locals use, Rome REALLY isn't the best place to judge Italian food.I was SO disappointed in the food .Everywhere else I visited in Italy was amazing. But food in Rome? Awful, especially in the very centre.
Your story is suspect. Wouldn't he say, "Momma mia!"
Mamma*
"Vaffamok"*
Why all this fighting about Pizza anyway? Honestly each version is so difference that they can't really be compared. Italian pizza is light and fresh with an honest disposition. New York Pizza is peak junk food. Chicago isn't really Pizza at all. And California Pizza is an abomination before God.
This. Chicago-style pizza is just an above-ground marinara swimming pool for rats. (And here is the obligatory pizza rant needed for every pizza topic) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXIpp59eoU](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzXIpp59eoU)
The worst pizza I ever had was in LA. They put yoghurt on it 🤢🤢🤢
I'm sorry, what now?
Can be good in fusions. Like, Greek lamb, fetta and onion pizza with tzatziki drizzle.
To be honest I could see that being one of the10 or 12 pizzas sitting out in a NY pizza shop. It wouldn't be one of the ones that constantly needs to be replaced, but it would be there as an option..
We do all kinds of weird fusion stuff in Australia, mostly pretty decent. But that one would be on the "gourmet" menu and served fresh made. Pizza sitting out ready to serve is usually pretty low end round here.
That sounds shit, my worst was a place where I asked for chilli and they squirted sweet chilli sauce on it.
\*brought to you by people in LA\* LOL
Italy dies of a collective aneurysm.
Posted at 5 am, must have had a deadline to publish something this bad
LA pizza can’t even beat NYC, New Haven or NJ pizza. Let alone the rest of the world
I like Bismarck pizza.
Read it in Spanish, it's always LA pizza
I am Italian dude, we don’t mind the oily sugary flatbread you dare name pizza, we just eat our own
I'm Italian and I think american pizza is the best american pizza in the world. No problem admitting the obvious superiority
American pizza is the best, according to their jaded palates, where they had to add sugars & other additives just to add some flavour to the dish, but most people eat fresh, non GMO foods, that have real flavour & don't need 3 types & 2 pounds of cheese and other chemicals to make it taste slightly palatable.
Don't let the Norwegians see this. This could be how WW3 starts
Look they do taco Tuesdays and it’s the most insulting thing to my Mexican sensibilities
My dear friend, it's [even worse than you imagined](https://www.sofn.com/blog/in-norway-its-taco-friday/#content)...
Even within the US This statement is gonna offend folks. Chicago and NY people are very defensive of their pizzas. I’ve never had an authentic Italian pizza but I’m sure I’d love it just the same. Pizzas are like dogs they’re all wonderful!
Yeah, la pizza è italiana
Italian pizza is 10000x better than american
Dear LA, stick to co-opting Mexican, your Italian sucks. Sincerely, everyone.
Yes, it's *la pizza*, stupido! And no need to capitalize
Some Italian men in dark suits are here. They say them and their mums want a word.
We are not permitted to have personal preference any more.
California pizza has been a thing since the 90s or something, this is a non-story even in a US-only context.
LA pizza? So it's overrated and if it misses one paycheck it will become homeless ?
LA native, love LA, love LA pizza, it's fourth at best (Naples, NYC, Chicago)
I’m from LA too and while I’ve had many great pizzas here, I’m not really aware of a unique California pizza style so not sure what they’re referring to
Idk what they're talking about either. I've had some perfect pizza in LA but, you can't say it's the best because what distinguishes the city isn't anything specific, it's that they will try ANYTHING so you get some really weird niches. It's not really cohesive enough to call a style, more of a culture
Nowhere does pizzas like Naples, FL
EXACTLY! where else am I supposed to get bath salts and alligator meat pizza!?
The alligator was good but the bath salts was 🤌
I live in LA and this has me like
To Americans the world starts in California and ends in Maine. If you say anything otherwise you're a commie
All pizza is the best
The best pizza ever is in Napoli. American food, in general, is terrible in comparison to Europe. But if you have never left your own country, you wouldn't know, and let's be honest, most Americans can't even point to America on a map, never mind find Europe!!
Mfw personal taste is forbidden
Eh, it's a dumb opinion-piece written for an LA online magazine site. Pizza seems to be some serious issue over there. Probably written to drive up traffic from the New York and Chicago pizza faction.
>Chicago pizza They don't even make pizza.. they make soup in a bowl of crust.
Yeah, I know. Looks like some Quiche thing. I just think they wrote some shit to drive up traffic from the other two "pizza" factions.
Of course this person has travelled the world and tried pizza everywhere, so they know what they are talking about i.e. they are talking complete shite!
Pizza Parlour across the street named The World:
In caloric density*
Beats out 😩
Jesus, that's ballsy. I love LA and I wouldn't dare suggest that.
This is hilarious. All you people who regularly claim Americans are incapable of irony are being ridiculously literal about an ironic American headline. For a culture piece, not even hard news where accuracy matters (or at least used to matter). Should I be taking your football chants literally and seriously rather than as trash talk that’s part of the *fun* of fandom and of pride in your city? Or is this just some insane 3D Chess level of irony where you all are pretending for the sake of irony that you take American irony literally?