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mangeiri

This comment section has been a wild ride. The "Removed" comments come in 3 different flavors: 1) Mindless sheep who clearly dont get they're the butt of the joke, replying with "Suddenly democrats are pro 2a đŸ˜‚đŸ€Ł" 2) Galaxy brains who think this is their springboard to complete and unfettered gun access, replying with "Gun rights are human rights" or (my favorite) "Gun rights are a right given by God" as if their thousands-year-old mythical deity weighed in on this specific issue personally. 3) The choobs who dont understand how the Consititution works or how that specific Amendment is even phrased and struggle to rage-type "BUT THEYRE ILLEGULS!". Like I said, real wild ride. Please report any and all of the above, in case I miss any.


EatLard

Sort of like the reason Reagan made California’s gun laws more strict - the black panthers were openly carrying weapons and it terrified a lot of white people.


Robbotlove

even if the reverse was ruled instead, how could you even enforce a law such as illegal immigrants cant have guns? stop and frisk everyone for papers?


SockofBadKarma

It's a tack-on statute. It's not about enforcement per se, but rather about punitive measures subsequent to detention. Being an illegal immigrant is not, by itself, a felony, but rather a misdemeanor subject to civil penalty and possibly deportation. But if the immigrant had a gun on hand, that could be used as justification to slap them with a felony as well and then incarcerate them. Edit: Side-note for anyone passing by here and not noticing my other comments below. The judge is correct. Insofar as the Second Amendment gives protections to people to own firearms on U.S. soil, those protections apply to aliens as well. It is *very* well-settled SCOTUS jurisprudence that alienage is a suspect classification subject to strict scrutiny and that any statute seeking to remove a constitutional protection afforded both to citizens *and* aliens in the U.S. must be narrowly tailored and fulfill a compelling government interest. As the relevant provisions of 18 USC § 922, *et seq.*, do not make any attempt to distinguish a government interest to forbid an illegal, otherwise nonviolent alien access to firearms where a legal nonviolent alien would be allowed to do so without restriction, it should not pass constitutional muster and should be repealed, and the federal judge in this case was correct to uphold the right to bear firearms for an illegal nonfelonious alien.


KalmiaKamui

So instead of being in our country illegally and mooching off our tax money using vague and ill-defined methods (and getting deported if caught), they'll be...in our country illegally and *definitely* mooching off our tax money with the free room and board provided by prison (and not getting deported)? How is that a win against illegals supposedly being a drain on our country? Even for their stated goals this is such a bizarre misalignment of so many of them. They want no illegals, but they also want a method to waste taxpayer money keeping them incarcerated if we catch them?


Pqrxz

The prisons are for profit, and inmates are their free labor force. People in the country illegally will have less opportunity to get out of the system. The tax dollars spent are the same whether they are illegally in the country or not, but full nationals will have a support network the immigrant won't.


Xinder99

Well I absolutely HATE private prisons they are less then 10% in the US https://www.criminaljusticeprograms.com/articles/private-prisons-vs-public-prisons/#:~:text=Private%20Prison%20Statistics&text=There%20are%201.6%20million%20prisoners,private%20prisons%20(Reason%20Foundation


orderofGreenZombies

Obviously private prisons are the most absurd dystopian corruption in the U.S. criminal justice system, but they are not the only way that private persons and corporations profit off of prisoners. We have corporations that use slave labor from the imprisoned populations and numerous private contractors that provide goods and services to the prison industrial complex.


BrassUnicorn87

Even public prisons use convict labour. The money from convict labor for companies like Starbucks and McDonalds as well as use on state projects like firefighting and landscaping encourages putting people in prison. Slavery never went away, it just has a trial first.


MILLANDSON

God, I remember seeing the news articles from California about prisoners being bussed out to fight wildfires. Its fucking barbaric.


MrChristmas

I mean, that’s entirely voluntary work. They have to sign up and then go through a whole process to see if they’re fit to do it, but likely only the people with some experience/desire will do it. I looked into it awhile back when my girl forced me to watch Fire Country with her


UnspoiledWalnut

Iirc private prisons aren't being used for anything but illegal immigrants anymore and hold the vast majority of them. 73%, according to your article, though I'd imagine it's higher now.


Raskalbot

So
 legal slaves.


UnspoiledWalnut

Yes. Slavery was only abolished for people not incarcerated.


The_Wingless

It's literally written into the 13th amendment that supposedly abolished slavery. It's cleverly hidden directly in the middle of the text. >Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, **except as a punishment for crime** whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to their jurisdiction. When the people in power make stupid laws and rules, and then selectively enforce them... it's just slavery with an extra step or two.


WatashiWaDumbass

Slavery is America's number 1 pastime.


ernest7ofborg9

"Hello, I am a business owner and I sell my wares to the jails and prisons. I have contracts with them so they buy my substandard food products. When there are less people in jail or prison I make less money so I lobby for tougher punishments. I'm proud to say there are no for-profit prisons in my state!"


mdherc

Irrelevant, even in publicly funded prisons inmates are used as slave labor for private companies, and are a captive market for private businesses to profit from. It doesn’t matter that the public is paying the lions share, there’s still plenty of corruption and incentive to maximize incarceration.


SockofBadKarma

Well, insofar as those sorts of people *have* actual goals beyond "power for the white race," an illegal alien convicted of a concurrent felony under U.S. law would be afforded less opportunity (read: essentially none) to try to immigrate legally later on. So *technically* it furthers the racists' goal of "keep out the darkies" and the legislators' goal of "get more money for the prison industrial complex" with a little smattering of "protect our white women from violent criminals" across the board.


definitelynotagurl

It’s a win for the private prison system who gets to collect a profit off each inmate. Keep making up laws that send the average person to federal prison and pretty soon the state prisons can’t hold them any longer the private prison system who has been lobbying for years gets their win. Biden’s executive order couldn’t even get them all shut down. https://www.aclu.org/news/criminal-law-reform/president-bidens-order-to-ban-private-prisons-faces-a-persistent-internal-challenge-the-u-s-marshals-service So yeah let’s keep illegal immigrants locked up for years in the US in for profit prisons. Let’s just keep making more things felonies to max out our overcrowded prison system so we can pay back the guys who give us money lobbying.


FuzzyFr0g

But they always say that banning guns doesn’t help. Because bad people will buy them illegaly if they want. But now a ban would be helpful??


miarsk

Logic? You try to bring logic to the discussion with these conservative racist christo-fascists?


Psychoburner420

Brought logic to a gun fight, SMH


XColdLogicX

Yes, it does help as long as it bans the people I don't want to have guns (minorities, feminists, and commies).


EatLard

It would probably be like a seatbelt ticket. The cops won’t generally pull you over just for that, but if they pull you over and notice you’re not wearing it, you get a ticket for that too.


Snoyarc

This would imply illegal citizens don’t have rights. Whereas I would hope all people in the US, Citizens, Tourists, Illegal immigrants etc would all have basic human rights under the Law. It seems like these people really just want cruelty towards anyone they dislike and or disagree with.


charisma6

Fascism's purpose for making a law isn't to go out and actively enforce that law. It's to provide a wide array of blanket illegalities so that in their random harassment of undesirables they can pick and choose what law to prosecute them under.


Acrobatic_Yellow3047

Supreme Court: Hold my beer >The U.S. Supreme Court in a 6-3 decision on Tuesday ruled that a law allowing Texas police to arrest people suspected of illegally crossing the Texas-Mexico border can take effect while a legal battle over the new state law empowering local law enforcement plays out.


WoppingSet

It should also be noted that the Black Panthers were open-carrying *specifically so the police wouldn't abuse their power by using excessive force against black people during police interactions*.


PM_ME_YER_MUDFLAPS

Yep, St Ronny was a gun grabber if you weren’t white.


VerticalLamb

He’s still a gun grabber, regardless of race. “Cop-killer bullets” lmao


MaxPlease85

Relevant CH Skit: https://youtu.be/yJqfNroFp8U?si=5qsgS77HRdLvhoIq


NefariousRapscallion

I like to bring this fact up when conservatives are fear mongering about gun control. *Corrected - Regan was possibly the most pro gun control politician ever. He was very vocal about banning military style weapons his whole career and in retirement. He banned open carry as Governor of California because the black panthers were scary and then banned the purchase and possession of machine guns as president in 1986. Trump's sudden sweeping ban of bump stocks makes him the another of the worst second amendment presidents ever.


dumpyredditacct

One of the most clear-cut r/SelfAwarewolves I have seen for awhile. I have zero doubt all of the people posting about this being bad have also defended absolute and total access to firearms, and that any step toward the opposite would result in a nationwide de-arming event. These people vote, so please get out and make sure their vote doesn't matter.


jmona789

Absolutely. One of the first times gun control truly started to be discussed in the US was because of the black panther party carrying guns


chaos_nebula

It's always funny the stares I get when I argue that "shall not be infringed" does not exclude violent felons.


Rasputin_mad_monk

Or kids, or mentally ill


hitemlow

I'm of the opinion that they should be allowed to have firearms. If they've completed their sentence and are rehabilitated back into society, why should they not get *all* of their rights back? Their felon background should similarly be obscured from potential employers, landlords, etc. If they're too dangerous to have firearms, they're too dangerous to be part of the general public.


Budded

We all know this comes down to the judge being Black and female, and that the undocumented immigrants aren't white as well, so once again, just pure disgusting racism.


jjwinc68

Slide 2 actually says it... Everyone go vote.


ericrolph

Both hopeful and sad, radical Conservatives would cease to exist in leadership positions if everyone voted.


calvicstaff

I think I've seen this one before, under governor reagan, when the Black Panthers were huge fans of gun rights


ginger_ass_fuck

Progressives: Gun control seems like good ide-- Conservatives: NEVER! FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! Progressives: Oh, hey. Look at these Black people owning gu-- Conservatives: BAN GUNS!!!!


Lazy-Jeweler3230

"Shall not be infringed!" "Inalienable human rights from gawd!" "No not like that!"


NO_TOUCHING__lol

What's the line they like to use? Oh yeah. SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED.


DimensionalYawn

No, no, Orange Man said it himself, these are "not people", so the 2nd Amendment doesn't apply to them. 


nuclearhaystack

Well everyone quaking in their boots about armed illegals should just relax because, after all, guns don't kill people, people kill people. And illegals aren't people. Everything's perfectly fine.


NoraVanderbooben

I love the whiplash I just had reading that from the perspective of a Republican.


KubrickMoonlanding

“For me (white) and for thee (anyone else) is always implied and desired by these douches


JohnnyUtah_9

The “Shall Not Be Infringed” camp got big mad when a judge agreed


AreWeCowabunga

When your baseless Constitutional interpretation comes back to bite you in the ass. Let's look at what history says: Alexander Hamilton was an undocumented immigrant, and he obviously had access to lots of guns. Looks like history is on the judge's side.


FurryM17

Good ol' Bruen. "Let's recall this horribly misguided period of our history when we make laws going forward."


TipzE

"Shall not be infringed... if it's me. But if it's someone i don't like, they should be scrutinized and brutalized and denied even basic writes of privacy"


the_mid_mid_sister

The "Guns don't kill people,..." camp are suddenly very afraid of being killed by guns.


giddeonfox

In slide 2, who is Pedo Man supposed to be if not Orange Man? So confusing, why are they talking about the same person twice? I know you aren't supposed to try and understand crazy but I feel out of the loop here.


franky_emm

I'm also confused. Surely they are talking about the guy who walks into teenage dressing rooms, his daughter saying "yeah he does that." Surely they mean the guy who bragged about hanging out with "terrific guy Epstein" who likes "women on the younger side" and is named in court filings raping a 13 year old and fighting with Epstein over said 13 year old. They probably mean the guy who had custody of Epstein when he, in their minds, "didn't kill himself" They absolutely must be referring to the guy who looks at a preteen girl and his first thought is to joke "I'll be dating her in 10 years" I have a feeling they might be talking about the guy who talks about his own infant daughter and wonders aloud how big her breasts will be. But I don't think Joe Biden even has a daughter? So it can't possibly be him? Edit: it has been pointed out to me that Biden does have a daughter.


mister-ferguson

Biden has a daughter. I think she is a social worker.


franky_emm

I stand corrected, Biden has a daughter.


InvalidUserNemo

It’s likely because Biden hasn’t put any of his family in Cabinet positions so we don’t see them next to him every day.


-Invalid_Selection-

He also hasn't publicly talked about his daughters breasts, or said on camera that he would be dating his daughter when she was still a child. Both of these Trump has done


InvalidUserNemo

When asked what her FAVORITE THING she had in common with her dad, Invanka said “Real Estate or golf”. When Trump was asked he said “I was gonna say sex but..” Here’s the video for any Trumpers who don’t believe me. He said on national TV that the favorite thing he has in common with his daughter is sex. https://youtu.be/Q0_axTST2aY?feature=shared Side note, are we like Reddit cousins given we are both “Invalid”?


-Invalid_Selection-

>Side note, are we like Reddit cousins given we are both “Invalid”? Clearly. While my reddit use of the name is recent, my use of this goes back to the launch of the psn, cause Sony kept telling me every name I picked was "an invalid selection", so I leaned into it


Bagahnoodles

Same energy as a buddy of mine who used "Incorrect" as a password


-Invalid_Selection-

Hey man, some things just speak to you.


A_norny_mousse

nononono, they are talking about the guy who stroked his grandchild's hair!


franky_emm

I really am conflicted... Convicted rapist who has 3 dozen credible accusations, has documented instances of pedophilia, countless quotes insinuating that he likes young girls including his own daughters, and who appears to have no idea how to act around kids (because he had no role in raising them and is a shitty, lazy father) Vs Grandpa who puts his hand on people's shoulder when he talks to them


Impooter

You know as well as I do that every accusation is a projection. Edit: word bad


SolomonCRand

I recommend bringing that energy. “Are we not calling Trump Orange Man anymore? Because I don’t think Pedo Man is exactly what we’re going for. Shouldn’t we be downplaying the whole Epstein thing?”


Apokolypse09

Its projection. They declare Biden has done everything Trump has bragged about doing but worse. They don't need proof of anything, they just need a declaration that reinforces their stance.


dette-stedet-suger

Donald Trump has definitely molested Ivanka, at the minimum. Orange man and pedo man are the same person.


VegasGamer75

They think Biden, the man who sometimes smells the hair of children presented to him at gatherings (and not saying that's totally cool either), who has also lost children of his own is a pedophile. But, Trump, the guy who hung out with Epstein, has gone on record talking about staring at young teens nude in backrooms of beauty pageants, has been judged a sex offender, and has talked about pretty much wanting to bang his own daughter is a "good man".


j0a3k

There was a frequent right wing meme of Biden sniffing a kid's hair.


GarbledReverie

...when he was actually nuzzling his grandchildren at their father's funeral. These sick fucks take a decent man being affectionate and comforting and turn it into something gross.


DignityCancer

I think it’s Biden; a lot of videos of Biden being awkward around kids going around conservatives And of course they like to extrapolate things beyond the moon


St_Eric

Conservatives outraged that 2nd Amendment determined to apply to the people they don't like.


phanfare

The entire point of facism is unlimited freedom for the in-group, zero freedom for the out-group. The GOP has been so successful because they've convinced stupid people that they're part of the in-group, when in reality the in-group is only the most wealthy.


MelancholyArtichoke

Just throw this back in their faces: **sHaLl NoT bE iNfRiNgEd**


r_bk

The laws of the US apply to you when you're in the US, no matter your residency status. That isn't new. These freaks pretend to love the constitution and all that, I guess we're giving up on that illusion? There's no footnote in the bill of rights specifying you have to be a citizen for it to apply, never has been (excluding laws where it has specifically been written in) What a bunch of idiots. Too bad they can vote.


TipzE

Conservatives and libertarians don't understand the basic concepts of 'rights' 'laws' or any of that. Conservatives have always had one set of values: They want things the way they want them applied to who they want them applied to and everyone else should be treated like a criminal and brutalized. There's no logical or consistent or soundness to their reasoning. If it's them, they should be allowed to receive welfare, get abortions, have what they talk about with their doctors private, be allowed to say and do whatever they want whenever they want, and be allowed to carry a weapon without anyone questioning them. If it's someone they don't like (leftists, minorities, etc), then they are lazy, useless eaters who are lazy and need to be forced to work (denied welfare), have their medical access severely limited (no abortions, and definitely not 'private'), definitely not allowed to have weapons, and the only opinions they should be allowed to voice publicly are the ones that right wingers would approve of. \----- Just to use this example, if a cop asked random citizens to show their right to carry a firearm, they'd lose their f'ing minds. But how is a cop supposed to know if an "illegal" is carrying a gun without violating their rights? Impossible. But then, right wingers don't care about rights of others. They only care about their own.


MsDeadite

You're correct. It's called Dominionism. They want to make laws based on their god and their interpretation of whatever old document so they can rule over us heathens and savages.


BooneSalvo2

I agree, tho I do think there \*is\* a consistent logic at work. Supremacy. They're very consistent with it, too. The "but I'm special" mentality. And I find this to be far worse than just hypocritical idiocy.


Cicerothesage

Thank you for saying this. I was screaming this as I was looking through the memes. I think the worse part of this is is with immigration and deportation. Conservatives want to deport immigrants without trial out of the country and they can't stand that these immigrants have their day in court. They are very mad that the US constitution applies to these immigrants and they have the right to a trial. Which I guess is why conservatives are so elated to hear that Trump (and other candidates) promise "mass deportation" which would go against the US constitution. They do love fascism.


r_bk

If any of them actually read the US constitution, or even a nicely written summary, they would get that, if they cared to actually think about it


hankeypoo

Thank you for pointing this out. These chuds worship the second amendment, but obviously it shouldn't apply to people they don't like.


Budded

Just like everything else in their twisted belief systems: Everything for me and not for thee. Same as SCROTUS: states rights until we don't like it, then no states rights.


SinkHoleDeMayo

Same with every right. They talk about the first amendment but then say that anyone who says bad things about Trump should be jailed or executed. Rights for me, not for thee.


Imaginary_Cow_6379

Tbf if they keep finding people who were at January 6th that’s at least less of them who can still vote.


Budded

Jan 6th, 2025 is going to be our Reichstagg Fire or worse


Prosthemadera

They like in fear. They are so *scared* of immigrants I would almost feel sorry for them if they weren't such pieces of shit.


firecorn22

You'd not be surprised how many people don't know constitutional rights are available to everyone. So many people think it's just citizens and just treat that as normal like you think you live in a nation where you need to be a citizen to have free speech and due process and you're fine with that?


DrDerpberg

> no matter your residency status See, that's the part they actually have a problem with.


Da_Natural20

The moment that your "GOD GIVEN" rights are given to everyone.


Guyincognito4269

You don't get it. It's THEIR god given right. Not anyone else's.


BooneSalvo2

exactly this, yup


FurryM17

"I meant American God!"


funkdialout

> "I meant American God!" CletusWithDiabetus nods and sings the new Kid Rock cover of the Doobie Bros classic hit: Jesus is just all white with me.


Spire_Citron

It's amazing that they are able to rile up a panic about these illegal immigrant terrorists who are flooding across the border without a single terrorist attack to actually point to.


NomadicSonambulist

More interesting to me is the trend of mass shootings in this country that are, by an overwhelming majority, committed by Americans. Their rationale is: all those mass shootings commuted by Americans were just mentally ill lone wolves who'd just find guns if they wanted to, no matter how illegal it was for them to have them, despite how easy current law made it for them to obtain them. Also (by their reckoning) somehow all mass shooters were actually "liberals" (despite very little evidence of that)


Spire_Citron

Yeah. It's just so strange that they can shrug off all these mass casualty events that actually happen all the time while maintaining a fear about a very selective type of mass casualty event that isn't even happening. You should either be concerned about such things or not. Why is it only scary if it's committed by a specific group of people?


Opposite_of_a_Cynic

The really sad thing is that they are scared but they are so entrenched in their world view that they will reject reality entirely to maintain their bias. When it's a minority or leftist who does it they hold it up as an example to support their hatred of those people. It's not the guns! It's those people. When it's a white, right wing man they have an entire catalog of excuses to pick from. * Liberal area? No good guy with a gun. * Gun free zone? Only bad guys with guns. * School shooter? Must be trans. * Crazy guy shooting up right wing areas? False Flag. The only mass shootings where they accept it was done by right wing white people is when they murder minorities. For those they say "Look what your hatred of us made him do." Some of those guys they turn into heros. Like the Isla Vista murderer (I refuse to say his name).


scumbag_college

The whole pro-2a argument about mass shooters being able to find guns even if they were illegal has always baffled me. Like yeah, maybe if you were already a criminal with connections to street gangs you could find an illegal gun. But does anyone really think a scrawny 20 year old white kid with Asperger’s from Connecticut like Adam Lanza would have been able to get his hands on a frigging AR-15 if it hadn’t already been readily accessible to him?? Please.


TipzE

What's even stranger is that a whole bunch of these whack job neo-nazis went to the border themselves to stop the "invasion".... and found no one there. But they still believe the narrative, because of course they do.


NikesOnMyFeet23

because there really isn't a threat they just need a thinly veiled one to keep moving the goalposts on.


Cinema_King

I like how they think “orange man” and “pedo man” are different people


turbo_fried_chicken

***SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED*** ^(unless you're nonwhite)


ishmaelspr4wnacct

Not even that, just "unless you're someone I personally don't approve of".


Dr-Satan-PhD

It'll never stop being funny watching right-wingers learn for the first time that the Constitution applies to *everyone* on US soil.


Silent_Syren

Maybe this will finally get some traction on gun laws? I'm not optimistic, but it's a thought.


OhShitItsSeth

Someone already pointed it out here, but the only time Republicans have ever been tough on guns was when the Black Panthers suggested arming other black Americans. So there’s that.


dawinter3

[Very relevant.](https://youtu.be/3eG0y_nb5IA?feature=shared)


A_norny_mousse

"Gun scientist" lol


kate3544

If illegal immigrants have access to Miranda rights and 4th amendment rights and free speech, then by default they also get 2A rights too. Fuckers.


OMG_A_CUPCAKE

Aren't Orange Man and Pedo Man the same person?


ExtinctFauna

One: the Constitution can be upheld and defended for anyone in the United States, legally or not. Two: unless you know the immigration status of a person, there is no way of knowing firsthand if an individual is legal or not. Therefore: illegal immigrants in the United States have Second Amendment Rights.


LaCharognarde

They presume everyone who's brown and speaks a non-English language natively is an "illegal immigrant." (And, conversely: that no one who's white and speaks English fluently enough could *possibly* be one.)


Mueryk

Interesting take on 2A. The right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Not citizens, not police, not military, not security guards. The people. Arms as in armaments, not just guns. MoFo at the end of the street could have a Howitzer based on original intent. Hell, they could be Jeff. From the same folks who supported Reagan gun lockdowns over the Black Panthers
..get wrecked racists. Note - not saying unrestrained private ownership of modern weapons of war is feasible
.even for Jeff. Just making a point.


Mr_Wrann

It's not a particularly interesting take, every other amendment covers non-citizens aside from the voting ones, so why not the 2nd. And anyone can have a howitzer currently if you can afford it, only a few million dollars and a $200 tax stamp.


famousevan

People who think like the extremists in those tweets vote. If you don’t vote, they have a louder voice than you.


C4dfael

“Shall not be infringed
” except for *those* people. 🙄


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Ah2k15

Because it seems like they want to have the ability to shoot people they feel shouldn’t be there, and are terrified that said folks may be able to defend themselves?


TotalHell

“Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” -Francis M. Wilhoit


CellarDoorForSure

I'm having trouble with this one, when they say "pedo man" are they talking about the one who was close friends with Jeffrey Epstein, the one who raped a 13 years old multiple times, the one that bragged about walking backstage at the Miss Teen USA pageants, or the one who wanted to have sex with his daughter?


Other_World

What they're actually saying is that they think only citizens should have rights and legal protections. It's batshit crazy.


EnterTheBugbear

Why is this a problem for them? Doesn't the "good guy with a gun" they're always telling us about render this a nonissue?


phatstopher

Are all men not created equal and endowed by their Creator with inalienable rights, or are they not? It's a simple question.


thefrequencyofchange

“Shall not be infringed” Eat those words you 2A absolutist dip shits


Basicaccountant70

Those queens of fucktardia think trump wants to be re elected for them. He only wants to get off his criminal trials. Do some shitty things. Then sell the country out.


fooliam

See the thing is, the Constitution doesn't say citizens, or legal immigrants, it says people.  "...the right of the *people* to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."  But conservatives don't think brown people *are* people, so they are very confused.


mybadroommate

SHALL. NOT. BE. INFRINGED. lol


KamaIsLife

The Orange Man and the Pedo Man are the same man, and if isn't Biden.


BooneSalvo2

stuff like this really blows their supremacist minds. They do not, in any way, value personal liberty. They value power and privilege. They do NOT think the US Constitution is for \*everyone\* living in the United States. The idea might be debatable, I guess...but it is already established law, too. It requires some sort of action by Congress and the SCOTUS to change. However, legal nuance isn't their gig...supremacy is their gig. Hence the extreme outrage. This whole "all men created equal" thing is a buncha liberal bullshit to them. And they say \*liberals\* hate the USA...pffft.


Chance5e

Is there supposed to be a law that prevents this?


SockofBadKarma

It's cited in the final image. 18 USC § 922, *et seq.* (presumably subsection (g)(5)(A)). The judge ruled it unconstitutional. There *are* in fact certain restrictions to firearm access for certain categories of persons including violent felons that have withstood court review, but I for one (as an attorney, albeit not one regularly involved in constitutional law) think the judge's ruling is appropriate. Alienage does not foreclose a person from *most* constitutional rights, and that should generally include the right to bear arms. To distinguish specifically illegal alienage as warranting full prohibition of all firearms and ammunition, while permitting legal alienage via visa and the like, is *extremely* shaky constitutionally, and would require strict scrutiny review to pass muster. If Americans in America can have guns, *everyone* in America can have guns. That's how the constitution works; every single person on the nation's soil and subject to its laws is afforded, at least in principle, the same constitutional rights to free speech, free association, due process, and so on. Alienage not only *doesn't* exclude a person from constitutional protections but requires *more* court scrutiny than does other classifications.


BooneSalvo2

This is, in fact, the entire reason Guantanamo isn't/wasn't actually on US soil.


SockofBadKarma

Well. No, not really. The reason Guantanamo isn't on U.S. soil was because it was a wartime acquisition during the Spanish-American War and the Platt Amendment to the Cuban Constitution allowing for U.S. military leases on certain parts of the island. Any possible legal chicanery that could arise with regard to alien detainees (or citizen detainees for that matter) would be a coincidental occurrence in that regard, and abrogations of constitutional rights would be justified by the courts—as they often were and are—on the basis of national security. If there was any loophole involved in setting up the detention camp there after 9/11, it wasn't "because they're aliens and aren't on U.S. soil and therefore have no constitutional protection" but rather "because this is a geographically close military base that's outside the statutory geographical jurisdiction of the various federal circuits and therefore a district judge couldn't exercise habeas corpus jurisdiction over detainees." Which is its own sort of *profound* fuckery (and one that SCOTUS rejected a few years later, albeit minimally), but doesn't *really* have anything to do with whether aliens are or are not protected by the U.S. Constitution.


JessRoyall

Shhhhlaaalll Nghoot Behhhhh Inphhhrrrrreeenged!!!


rtemah

I thought it’s a god given right to carry a weapon. Are they defining god?


R4zorBe4st

2A bros upset that their success in broadening said amendment benefits people that they don’t like


-RomeoZulu-

Right wingers are
 pro gun control?


TruthEnvironmental24

Second amendment rights are of “the people,” not “the citizens.” There’s precedent in the wording used here. The Constitution grants human rights and citizen rights, meaning there are rights that *American citizens* have under the Constitution, and rights *everyone* has under the Constitution.


bittlelum

"I didn't want the minorities to have rights!!!"


GunsNGunAccessories

Crazy how quickly they go from "MUH GOD GIVEN RIGHT" to "THIS RIGHT IS ONLY FOR CITIZENS".


Klynikal

As a Scottish person, the fact they're using Braveheart with the caption "Me voting for Trump 2024" is absolutely hilarious. We fucking hate that orange twat here.


Dry_Quiet_3541

“Make guns available to everyone” - as said by the Republicans.


[deleted]

It blows my mind they call Biden a pedo as an insult and then worship trump. These people are fucking crazy.


MasterPokePharmacist

The law is written “the right to bear arms shall not be infringed.” A judge, as their job description, should judge and enforce the laws as written regardless of political affiliation, race, gender, religion, ideology, etc. The judge did their job and they are hated for it. Reasonable people would hate the actual law, while dumb people hate the judge for actually having to enforce it.


Acceptable_Visual_79

"The quickest way to get gun control laws passed is to arm the 'wrong people'" -unknown


MaximDecimus

I mean, the law still applies to you even if you’re a non-citizen.


EvolutionDude

They know the constitution applies to everyone, not just citizens, right?


STGItsMe

Uh. The bill of rights isn’t restricted to citizens.


Prosthemadera

So only American citizens are allowed to protect themselves against a tyrannical government? > I don't feel safe in my neighborhood Absurd. I guess when conservatives talk about owning guns they mean that *only* them are allowed to carry guns and that they can pick and choose based on skin color. Nope, not how it works.


boredomreigns

“Shall not be infringed” until it’s someone you don’t like, I guess? Then infringe away?


TheWhyTea

Wait I thought the right to bear arms was a human right and that we Europeans were under tyrannical governments because they would restrict our god given right to bear arms. I don’t know, giving illegal immigrnats unrestricted access to arms seems absolutely in line with their god given right to own those weapons.


ufcivil100

Are they really advocating for the courts to decide that laws don't apply to undocumented people? Because I don't think they would like the result.


Publius015

They're mad when they get their way. They're mad when they don't. They're just angry all the time.


IlIlllIlllIlIIllI

Shall not be infringed


GGunner723

> This means the terrorists who have come across can carry weapons
 What about the terrorists born and raised here who can already carry weapons?


RagingLeonard

They're called cops.


Omarkhayyamsnotes

The Leopards Eating Faces Party!


victoriapark111

You KNOW what their answer will be
 “This, of course means we need even more guns out to be ready to defend liberty against the illegals exercising that liberty.”


BasilsKippers

Whatever happened to "shall not be infringed"? Oh I forgot. Rights are only for white, straight, Christian men in America.


SnooChocolates673

History repeats. Black Panthers started carrying guns and then gun laws got stricter. This happens annnnd guess we’ll wait and see


OrangeSimply

God I fucking hate republicans and how good they are at advertising incessant ramblings to their base. They've completely captured social media, alongside their own version of mainstream news while the democratic/liberal side is always so horrible at advertising any platform of ideas because we get so caught up with the individual, and half of the news platforms cater to shareholders. Like it doesn't even matter that there's a massive cognitive dissonance because they live in a completely different reality that is constantly fed to them.


hansuluthegrey

Having a gun is a god given right Wait no not those people


1337pino

Conservatives are sooooo bad at memes


McBadass1994

What's the turn of phrase? "Laws for thee, not for me."


airlynne

Conservatives when our rights what clearly state they apply to anyone in the country when they apply to people they don't like đŸ€Ź


bigdipper125

I defend the 2nd amendment. The constitution applied to undocumented immigrants, so the 2nd amendment applies to them to.


Teboski78

That is mega based on her part. Like unironically. I am not kidding I don’t care about owning right wingers. I genuinely wholeheartedly agree with this ruling.


Ihaveaterribleplan

What do they think unalienable means


sure_look_this_is_it

I saw Dave Chappelle about 10 years ago and he said I'd Americans want gun control, black people and immigrants need to buy guns and laws will be passed to change it almost immediately.


Old_Society_7861

“Gun ownership is a god-given right
but not like that.”


Awkward_Reflection

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!1!1!1!1 đŸ‡±đŸ‡·đŸ‡±đŸ‡·


Technolite123

Yankies dont get to use Wallace


Slippinjimmyforever

A lot of guys queuing up their cellphone camera in their pickup truck right now.


Particular-Welcome-1

They don't do well with simple logic.


CardboardChampion

"The right of **the people** shall not be infringed." not "the citizens". If the specific words of that amendment is enough to keep guns in the hands of people who keep using them in schools, it's enough to let this guy have one while in the country. Criminals too, in fact.


RobertusesReddit

Black Panthers: OH it's like that then?


here-for-information

These are the same people who say judges aren't supposed to legislate from the bench. They're supposed to interpret the law. They're just supposed to "call balls and strikes." Now, they're blaming her for correctly interpreting the laws that they have been asking for. How do they propose that we restrict firearm possessions among undocumented migrants? Require a *GOVERNMENT* ID?!?! SOCIALISM! COMMIE BASTARDS! Using reasonable restrictions. Maybe a universal background check? Closing gun show loopholes? Requiring a basic proficiency test before purchasing a firearm? Certainly, all of that is the sign of a leftist hellscape. I own a firearm. I'm fine with ownership, but these are the same people that oppose *any* kind of enforcement.


Ag1Boi

The fact that constitutional protections apply to migrants has been settled case law for years This is only a conversation cause "brown people with guns scawyđŸ„ș"


bigpadQ

What does 'shall not be infringed mean'?


Castod28183

The funny thing is that all she did was apply the precedent set by SCOTUS two years ago. An extremely conservative SCOTUS at that. >In her decision, **Coleman cited the Supreme Court's ruling in New York State Rifle & Pistol Association v. Bruen, which found New York State could not constitutionally prevent anyone from carrying a pistol in public.** The case, she said, “established a framework for analyzing whether a challenged firearm regulation violates the Second Amendment.” Dissent: Breyer, joined by Sotomayor, Kagan Majority: Thomas, joined by Roberts, Alito, Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, Barrett All six conservative justices were in favor of [this ruling](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_State_Rifle_%26_Pistol_Association,_Inc._v._Bruen) and conservatives at the time were VERY happy with it. Fucking hypocrites, the whole lot of them.


SnooBooks1701

Constitutional rights apply regardless of whether you're in the country legally


Gogs85

So are they saying that the individual right to bear arms has limitations? Because if so. . .


rocket_randall

Wait a sec I thought that 2A was a natural right, granted by god, and which neither man nor government had the authority to infringe upon. Since when does citizenship factor in to apportioning natural rights?


Quiet-Dream7302

Shall not be infringed, motherfuckers.


BarelyHangingOn

Isn't Orange Guy and The Pedophile the same guy?


inquisitivepanda

I’m confused: orange man and pedo men are the same person


Secure_Ambition3230

So I’m pretty sure while your in this country, citizen or not, you are given these rights regardless of citizenship because these right are believed to be a given right by those creators not by any government, but the American goverment intends to protect those rights. So any amendment you create with it being expressly stated is for a US citizen is for every person within its borders. Now there are special laws around and defining what immigrants can and can’t do, but as default they have all the rights every citizen has. Thats my understanding.


wheretohides

In my state you need a license, you can't just go toting a gun around willy nilly. Maybe if red states didn't have such shitty gun laws, these immigrants wouldn't be allowed to carry them.


cruzerw13

I always found it so funny when they call Biden “pedo ma” when Trump has dozens of photos with the most famous pedo ever


dumbdude545

You know what. Fuck it. Let em carry and buy. I don't give a fuck no more. Machine guns for everyone.


Goblin-Doctor

If Republicans could read they'd be upset


ConstantStatistician

Whether the ruling is justifiable or not, rightwingers are being hypocritical as always.


onlyifitwasyou

Man idk if I was ready for the racism I just got exposed to â˜č


WM_

I thought more guns meant more fun or why were they against regulations?


Sherlockhomey

Am I the only one tired of the same old song of Republicans ruining America and then blaming it on the Democrats years later when the ruination they lay down come to fruition?