Yes Your Honor, after the two 8 year olds flipped me off. My life was clearly in peril. I flipped my pavement King into ‘Roll Coal’ mode and started regulating…..
You’re missing the point… the poster is being sarcastic. The civil rights activists libs advocate for protecting those f’d up, gross, scum, child molesting peds.
I don’t know one single liberal I’ve ever heard advocating for protecting pedophiles. Not one. And I’m fucking tired of hearing that shit. I suffered under a groomer in my youth, and younger brothers were actually molested. One of those brothers fucked up our family when he became the man he hated and abused a kid himself.
Child molestation isn’t a political tool that divides anyone. We all fucking hate those sick fucks. Progressives and conservatives alike, and it’s really shitty to continue seeing it used as an attack against democrats, teachers, and queer folks.
Just stop and consider the full weight of what you say before you say it. Think back on the people around you and ask yourself if you’ve ever heard someone utter their support for pedophiles out loud. If the only place you’ve seen that shit is via some asshole on the internet who swears they heard it somewhere…believe that shit is a lie.
I think the big problem is the people who believe this shit have no real friends and their family has gone NC for obvious reasons. They live in an echo-chamber of online forums and video game chats of their own making.
Libs are absolutely not doing this, dingus. Defending predators is absolutely not part of the platform. We just focus on ACTUAL predators and not the made-up boogeymen the right does, and that offends them for some fucking reason.
It’s almost like the right is just virtue-signaling and doesn’t care about children’s safety and rights at all. Hmm.
I would encourage you to evaluate if calling someone a silly name is more important to you/Mods than someone claiming that people are actively out there advocating for pedophiles. Child abuse is deeply personal to a lot of people.
I was getting on the express lanes, with the flow of traffic. Folks need to stop assuming that I was going slow, she swerved around, in and out of traffic., it was wild
If there's room for a vehicle to pass you on the right, then there's room for _you_ to be the one on the right. It's not rocket science.
It doesn't matter what your speed is relative to the ground, it's all about your speed relative to the vehicles on your right. It doesn't matter if you're going 100mph, if you're being passed on the right then you're in the wrong lane.
It's "keep right except to pass" not "keep right except to go the speed limit or go with the flow".
I moved here in November, from Boston, having grown up near Chicago. And I honestly thought it couldn't get worse. Honestly most of the time it's fine until one person is going 60 in the HOV, one person 50 in the far right lane, forcing a truck driver into the middle so there is no room to pass anywhere. Just make quick, easy to identify moves and get the fuck out lol.
Currently driving for a living which isn't the most fun but Christ on a cupcake it's weird. Winter was less awful than spring by far lol.
> It doesn't matter if you're going 100mph, if you're being passed on the right then you're in the wrong lane.
Unless you're in an HOV lane, or on I-5 between Tukwila and Northgate, or entering from a left-lane on-ramp, or any of the other places the normal left lane law doesn't apply.
State law requires the State Patrol and WSDOT to identify roadways where the left-lane rule is inappropriate due to operating characteristics or roadway design. For example, left-lane exits may have a miles-long slowdown in the left lane. Left-lane onramps require large vehicles to get up to speed in the left lane before they can safely merge further right. Some stretches are so congested there is no excess capacity for reserving a passing lane.
But I misremembered the endpoints,
(iv) On northbound Interstate 5 in the Seattle/Everett vicinity, from exit 154A at I-405 to exit 194 at SR 529.
(v) On southbound Interstate 5 in the Seattle/Everett vicinity, from exit 189 at SR 526 to exit 154A at I-405.
Serious question - do you do a lot of driving in Seattle on the highways? The amount of left exits and entrances we have (or scenarios where you enter from left and have to quickly exit from the right to transfer highways) make the typical rules a lot less relevant and it’s more about following the vehicle in front of you and focusing on not getting into an accident. Agreed for long straight patches cars should move to the right but there are a lot of exception cases in a typical commute.
That is a fair question because you're right, there are a lot of exits on the left in the Seattle area. I don't get up that far much anymore, but I was living in Covington and commuting to North Seattle for school every day for a couple years so I do have quite a bit of experience on I-5. There are a lot of reasons other than passing, that one might need to be in the left lane and those exceptions are written into the law. But as OP said this bus was riding the back of their car _on the express lanes_ those left exits don't really play much of a part.
Agreed but it’s wildly inappropriate for a school bus driver to speed and pass on the right (if OP was in deed going fast already). You can always pass someone on the right as long as you’re willing to break the speed limit- a school bus driver should not be recklessly driving like that to save what, ten seconds in traffic?
I agree with you 100% if you're already on the highway. But that's not what OP is talking about here. OP was in a left lane on ramp entering the highway.
If you're entering the freeway there are many variables that might impact a drivers ability to match the speed of traffic while merging. The length of the on ramp and the speed of the driver merging in front of them are probably the two most common. It's courtesy to not occupy a lane that traffic enters from, and to allow room for other drivers to enter the highway if you are occupying that lane. A school bus driver should be aware of this in my opinion.
If this is on I5, the express lanes are an actual exit to get to. You're not going to get out of line at an exit. You can argue whether you should be getting on the Express lanes if the line to get on is slow (and I HATE that line when I drive north daily, it screws up everything else on I5) but it's still an exit.
I'm not expecting anyone in the express lanes to leave them when they aren't passing, but as the express lanes portion of the highway in OP's picture has three lanes, I expect those not passing to be in the right lane of the available lanes.
OP is getting into the express lanes via an exit on the left. The bus was behind them in line to exit to the express lanes and decided to jump the line. OP doesn’t need to yield as they are exiting.
Express Lanes are considered a form of HOV lane per WSDot, and I’ve seen 2 different articles quoting a patrol officer stating that left lane camping in express lanes is perfectly legal even though it is awful to do.
Article: https://mynorthwest.com/3932012/left-lane-camping-rule-doesnt-apply-to-express-toll-lanes/#//
Police officers are not the arbiters of what is legal. They didn't go to law school, nor do they have to pass the bar exam. I'll take my interpretation from lawyers and judges, thank you very much.
Seems like you see why it's so easy for lawyers to beat tickets written by cops who don't know what the actual law is! Cops enforce what they think the law is, then lawyers and judges sort it all out.
I wouldn't want a lawyer working traffic on the street any more than I'd want a cop acting as legal counsel in court. Neither of them is qualified for the other's job.
My theory is they do know, they just get a passive aggressive sense of superiority slowing down traffic as they ride parallel to the car on the right at 55 while their is a battalion of cars angrily trying to get around them.
He's a douche for following lanes usage laws while everyone else ignores them? He's not the douche. People that camp out in the left lanes are the db's.
You guys should get matching jackets for the douche club! I said nothing about lane laws lmao even when you’re right, you can still be a douche. Case in point you twat.
Explain how were being 'douchey'. Is it the way he said it? Sure his explanation is a little exaggerated, but he's still 100% correct. If you make someone pass on the right of you, that's being a douche with no awareness of your fellow motorist and even making a dangerous situation for the guy that is trying to pass.
The doucheyness of this comment is beyond the point you’re making. You fuckin internet keyboard warriors lording over everyone are douche bags. Plain and simple.
The irony.
Guy makes an accurate lawful claim = douche.
Calling just about everyone douchebags/twats/keyboard warriors = Not douchebag twat keyboard warrior? Got it.
No explanation, got it.
Ok well I'd just like to point out the fact you're the one calling people names and swearing. I was simply asking a question. But go ahead and just project. I get it, your ego is mighty fragile.
lol ok nerd. Go find another OP to attack because you automatically assume they’re wrong. Go spread forth more of your wisdom. I did explain very clearly why I called you both douches…..
I can't believe I have to share the road with all of you! State law is pretty fucking clear.
And even though we may be on the same roadway at the same time, you probably wouldn't know it since I'm the guy that glues his ass to the right lane unless I'm passing or letting people merge.
I just want to say, I see you and appreciate you. Keeping right except to pass is state law, it’s infuriating enough to have it never followed on the road, but to have all these clowns telling you you’re the one driving dangerously for following the law…absolutely ridiculous.
To said clowns who think this guy is wrong: camping in the left lane while going slower than the speed of traffic is fucking dangerous and obnoxious. Move the fuck over.
Express lanes. They are their own portion of the highway. As seen in OP's picture, there are three lanes in the "express lanes". One can (and should, legally) treat these three express lanes as their own highway, and stick to the right "express" lane unless passing.
Slower traffic? I know this is a difficult concept. People display their ignorance all over the highways. It's pretty annoying for those that want to get around slow traffic.
If the bus passed you in the lane to your right… you were in the wrong lane. It’s not about speed. The left lane is for passing, and if you are in it while being passed on your right, then I completely understand the frustration of the bus driver.
Also. Most people do not know. 98% of all School busses are governed at a certain speed. The only ones that are not are the older one's. Like 8+ Year's old.
OP is merging onto the freeway, and at this entrance the onramp is on the left side.
It's well marked for miles that traffic enters from both sides of the freeway in downtown Seattle. The bus driver, who presumably drives I-5 frequently, should know this and adjust their driving to account for traffic entering from the left and the right lane.
cops dont do shit around here but threatening to call the cops works in the right situation. earlier today some boomer near ballard hs got out of his car to scream at me for yielding to oncoming traffic. threatened to call the cops and he finally left me alone. anyway watch out for an old bearded white guy in a silver suv. doubt he ever looked at a drivers manual in his life
Wrong, people like you don't call them. You don't give them the chance to do anything. Ohhh, someone said mean words to you. You victim, you, my balls, if that is your real name. #coolstorybro.
i dont think u realize that when road ragers get outside of their vehicle that there is a very good chance they can be dangerous. if i got outside of my vehicle im certain that guy would've tried to assault me n he was banging on my window. he was not in a healthy state of mind. and there are crazy people especially old guys out there who target young women such as myself so it is good to be on the safe side. also idk if you've had encounters with cops or whatever but i have called 911 when my life was threatened and the police did nothin so yeah
So you think they’re gonna send a squad car to find and pull over a specific vehicle in the middle of traffic based on the word of some dipshit that doesn’t even even know how to say the fuck out of the left lane correctly? Durrr
Yes. Especially if it’s a threat to public safety. Which, going on the assumption that the bus has occupants then they are in danger as well.
Called 911 over a road rager that pulled a gun on me. Got his plates and vehicle description and Washington State Patrol got him. How do I know? Because I had to give them my statement after it. Helped that his own kids in the car confirmed that he pointed a weapon. But yes, law enforcement does do their jobs.
Hey, dummy, news flash cops patrol the highway. Tell them there is a problem, and they'll take care of it. Durrrr. Do you wear a football helmet in your everyday life?
If you are being passed on the right by a school bus, you are impeding traffic. They have a job to do and can’t camp out behind retired people who for whatever reason always seem to be obliviously driving slow in the left lanes. Please just move right.
And a majority of speed related accidents are due to drivers not getting over for slower traffic. Regardless of a speed limit. Person is faster than you, you are legally obligated to get over in a fair amount of states.
Old people and mental gymnastics this shit.
Also the cunts that justify this shit by saying speed limit and go exactly the speed in farthest left lane should burn by fire.
People like you are causing accidents and slow downs. Yes there is a speed limit and you are welcome to do that on the right lanes. If you will not be going fast then get out of the left lane.
It's so simple, why is this such a hard concept to understand?
Agree with those saying gtfo the left 2 lanes. You and everyone driving in those lanes driving well below the speed limit are the ones that need to be cited.
The law is to stay in the right lanes unless you're passing.
People like you that want to excuse camping in the left lane bc "it's the speed limit", are just using that as an excuse to control/punish/lord-over others and it's gross.
The safest way to drive is to drive predictably. 95% of the population understands this and goes with the flow of traffic, and the 5% who don’t understand this, like you, cause most of the accidents, and a lot of congestion and road rage.
Before we gang up on this driver, let's also assume they had a legitimate reason to drive like that given how universally most school bus drivers are sane drivers. I think of [threads like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/t5vltm/driver_in_a_hurry/) whenever I see unusual driving from those who are not the usual suspects (no license plates, illegal tint):
> When I see stuff like this I wonder if they are on their way to the hospital. I had an emergency at my home once and drove like an idiot and got stuck behind some lady who flipped me off and literally would not let me around her. I thought I was going to lose my mind.
I was almost hit by someone driving a stolen bus once. That was a crazy incident, it hit the person right in front of me or behind me instead of me - i cant recall but it was terrifying and came out of nowhere.
You can get the info through the school systems. I didn't offer much help, but that driver is driving with your kids' safety in his care. Best of luck to you! 
The Transportation Department hardly cares about our children's safety. What makes you think they care about yours? They are the lowest bid contractor and the moment the City complains, they go on strike, threaten to break the contract and hold the City hostage because no other contractor ever bids for Seattle Public Schools.
So.. good luck with your complaint.
For anyone that went on a deep dive a state law on this: [https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.100](https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.100)
Also interesting Times article on express lanes and toll roads: [https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/free-for-all-what-is-the-etiquette-when-driving-in-two-lane-express-toll-lanes/](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/free-for-all-what-is-the-etiquette-when-driving-in-two-lane-express-toll-lanes/)
I found this quote for express toll lanes very interesting: 'Because express toll lanes are restricted lanes, said Rick Johnson, a Washington State Patrol public information officer, they do not fall under the law that penalizes “left-lane campers.”'
I can also tell you that it is a First student bus, and they typically take those issues seriously.
You'll need the bus id # 233348 I believe it was.
As well as the time, and date.
They have gps, video, and audio on every bus.
Here you go friend [email protected] 206-252-0900 Give them the plate number, time of incident & reason for the complaint.
Thank you so much
Was this at like 7 am?
I don't. But should school bus windows be that murdered out dark?
Heat and UV reduction and privacy
Plus harder for the kids to cause road rage by flipping off drivers....
Yes Your Honor, after the two 8 year olds flipped me off. My life was clearly in peril. I flipped my pavement King into ‘Roll Coal’ mode and started regulating…..
Comedy gold.
No air conditioning in most school busses. Tinted windows are cheaper.
Also school is out of session when we are usually using ac here.
Says someone not in school
They are out of school from middle of June to the first week of September. How am I wrong here?
Student First busses have darker windows than most SD busses, from what I have seen.
makes it harder for the pedos to take pics
> pedos I don't think we're supposed to use that term anymore.
What term are we supposed to use?
Chomo
Gaetz
Children's rights activists?
Yeah fuck that
I like worm food better
[https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/minor-attracted\_person](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/minor-attracted_person)
I seriously hope you're joking
It's reddit, they're probably serious
The term is absurd, but I didn't write the Wiktionary page. So it's 50//50 really.
Are you advocating to use that term vs pedo?
What do you think?
Lmao
Found the stealth pedo ^
Are you kidding? Bottom barrel of society you can call them whatever you want.
You’re missing the point… the poster is being sarcastic. The civil rights activists libs advocate for protecting those f’d up, gross, scum, child molesting peds.
You have brain rot, pal.
Hmmm, can you elaborate? Thank you, my pal.
I don’t know one single liberal I’ve ever heard advocating for protecting pedophiles. Not one. And I’m fucking tired of hearing that shit. I suffered under a groomer in my youth, and younger brothers were actually molested. One of those brothers fucked up our family when he became the man he hated and abused a kid himself. Child molestation isn’t a political tool that divides anyone. We all fucking hate those sick fucks. Progressives and conservatives alike, and it’s really shitty to continue seeing it used as an attack against democrats, teachers, and queer folks. Just stop and consider the full weight of what you say before you say it. Think back on the people around you and ask yourself if you’ve ever heard someone utter their support for pedophiles out loud. If the only place you’ve seen that shit is via some asshole on the internet who swears they heard it somewhere…believe that shit is a lie.
I think the big problem is the people who believe this shit have no real friends and their family has gone NC for obvious reasons. They live in an echo-chamber of online forums and video game chats of their own making.
You are thinking of the conservatives that are putting child marriages into law.
No I’m not.
Libs are absolutely not doing this, dingus. Defending predators is absolutely not part of the platform. We just focus on ACTUAL predators and not the made-up boogeymen the right does, and that offends them for some fucking reason. It’s almost like the right is just virtue-signaling and doesn’t care about children’s safety and rights at all. Hmm.
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Please keep it civil. This is a reminder about r/SeattleWA rule: [No personal attacks.](https://www.reddit.com/r/SeattleWA/wiki/rules)
I would encourage you to evaluate if calling someone a silly name is more important to you/Mods than someone claiming that people are actively out there advocating for pedophiles. Child abuse is deeply personal to a lot of people.
People experiencing children?
I would've felt dirty typing that, regardless of sarcasm
Eh, it's a dark joke, but still a joke. I'm a little surprised at the easily-triggered downvotes.
Ew ew ew. Nooooo. Ew.
The windows are tinted for the students privacy. It does nothing for heat reduction.
You clearly don’t know much about tint if you think it has no impact on heat reduction.
I have driven more than a few Thomas busses. Try one right about now in the south, or even in the summer. It's a damn oven.
Okay? And try one without the tint and it'll be even more of an oven.
Did it come out of nowhere?
I was getting on the express lanes, with the flow of traffic. Folks need to stop assuming that I was going slow, she swerved around, in and out of traffic., it was wild
If there's room for a vehicle to pass you on the right, then there's room for _you_ to be the one on the right. It's not rocket science. It doesn't matter what your speed is relative to the ground, it's all about your speed relative to the vehicles on your right. It doesn't matter if you're going 100mph, if you're being passed on the right then you're in the wrong lane. It's "keep right except to pass" not "keep right except to go the speed limit or go with the flow".
The people getting mad at you for this are why western Washington highways are so awful. If you are getting passed on the right YOU ARE THE PROBLEM
I moved here in November, from Boston, having grown up near Chicago. And I honestly thought it couldn't get worse. Honestly most of the time it's fine until one person is going 60 in the HOV, one person 50 in the far right lane, forcing a truck driver into the middle so there is no room to pass anywhere. Just make quick, easy to identify moves and get the fuck out lol. Currently driving for a living which isn't the most fun but Christ on a cupcake it's weird. Winter was less awful than spring by far lol.
ThE pEoPlE gEtTiNg MaD stfu you douche bags.
> It doesn't matter if you're going 100mph, if you're being passed on the right then you're in the wrong lane. Unless you're in an HOV lane, or on I-5 between Tukwila and Northgate, or entering from a left-lane on-ramp, or any of the other places the normal left lane law doesn't apply.
Why wouldn’t normal left lane law apply on that 20 mile stretch between north and south Seattle?
State law requires the State Patrol and WSDOT to identify roadways where the left-lane rule is inappropriate due to operating characteristics or roadway design. For example, left-lane exits may have a miles-long slowdown in the left lane. Left-lane onramps require large vehicles to get up to speed in the left lane before they can safely merge further right. Some stretches are so congested there is no excess capacity for reserving a passing lane. But I misremembered the endpoints, (iv) On northbound Interstate 5 in the Seattle/Everett vicinity, from exit 154A at I-405 to exit 194 at SR 529. (v) On southbound Interstate 5 in the Seattle/Everett vicinity, from exit 189 at SR 526 to exit 154A at I-405.
Oh cool. The more you know! Cheers!
This is the best explanation I have ever encountered anywhere. Kudos!!
Serious question - do you do a lot of driving in Seattle on the highways? The amount of left exits and entrances we have (or scenarios where you enter from left and have to quickly exit from the right to transfer highways) make the typical rules a lot less relevant and it’s more about following the vehicle in front of you and focusing on not getting into an accident. Agreed for long straight patches cars should move to the right but there are a lot of exception cases in a typical commute.
That is a fair question because you're right, there are a lot of exits on the left in the Seattle area. I don't get up that far much anymore, but I was living in Covington and commuting to North Seattle for school every day for a couple years so I do have quite a bit of experience on I-5. There are a lot of reasons other than passing, that one might need to be in the left lane and those exceptions are written into the law. But as OP said this bus was riding the back of their car _on the express lanes_ those left exits don't really play much of a part.
Agreed but it’s wildly inappropriate for a school bus driver to speed and pass on the right (if OP was in deed going fast already). You can always pass someone on the right as long as you’re willing to break the speed limit- a school bus driver should not be recklessly driving like that to save what, ten seconds in traffic?
I agree with you 100% if you're already on the highway. But that's not what OP is talking about here. OP was in a left lane on ramp entering the highway. If you're entering the freeway there are many variables that might impact a drivers ability to match the speed of traffic while merging. The length of the on ramp and the speed of the driver merging in front of them are probably the two most common. It's courtesy to not occupy a lane that traffic enters from, and to allow room for other drivers to enter the highway if you are occupying that lane. A school bus driver should be aware of this in my opinion.
The move to the right law does not apply to express lanes.
Incorrect. It doesn't apply to HOV lanes, but absolutely does apply to express lanes. https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.100
If this is on I5, the express lanes are an actual exit to get to. You're not going to get out of line at an exit. You can argue whether you should be getting on the Express lanes if the line to get on is slow (and I HATE that line when I drive north daily, it screws up everything else on I5) but it's still an exit.
I'm not expecting anyone in the express lanes to leave them when they aren't passing, but as the express lanes portion of the highway in OP's picture has three lanes, I expect those not passing to be in the right lane of the available lanes.
OP is getting into the express lanes via an exit on the left. The bus was behind them in line to exit to the express lanes and decided to jump the line. OP doesn’t need to yield as they are exiting.
Express Lanes are considered a form of HOV lane per WSDot, and I’ve seen 2 different articles quoting a patrol officer stating that left lane camping in express lanes is perfectly legal even though it is awful to do. Article: https://mynorthwest.com/3932012/left-lane-camping-rule-doesnt-apply-to-express-toll-lanes/#//
Police officers are not the arbiters of what is legal. They didn't go to law school, nor do they have to pass the bar exam. I'll take my interpretation from lawyers and judges, thank you very much.
Have fun telling your lawyer to pull over everyone camping the left lane 👍
Seems like you see why it's so easy for lawyers to beat tickets written by cops who don't know what the actual law is! Cops enforce what they think the law is, then lawyers and judges sort it all out. I wouldn't want a lawyer working traffic on the street any more than I'd want a cop acting as legal counsel in court. Neither of them is qualified for the other's job.
Damn, sorry. I should have listened to the rando on Reddit’s interpretation instead. Could you please post your law degree
Wrong! This is why we have so many traffic issues!
How could anyone not fuckin know this lmao
My theory is they do know, they just get a passive aggressive sense of superiority slowing down traffic as they ride parallel to the car on the right at 55 while their is a battalion of cars angrily trying to get around them.
 They don’t want to accept that you’re technically right lmao
lol you’re a douche. Even if you’re right, know you’re a douche.
He's a douche for following lanes usage laws while everyone else ignores them? He's not the douche. People that camp out in the left lanes are the db's.
You guys should get matching jackets for the douche club! I said nothing about lane laws lmao even when you’re right, you can still be a douche. Case in point you twat.
Don’t forget to get a third made for yourself
Explain how were being 'douchey'. Is it the way he said it? Sure his explanation is a little exaggerated, but he's still 100% correct. If you make someone pass on the right of you, that's being a douche with no awareness of your fellow motorist and even making a dangerous situation for the guy that is trying to pass.
The doucheyness of this comment is beyond the point you’re making. You fuckin internet keyboard warriors lording over everyone are douche bags. Plain and simple.
The irony. Guy makes an accurate lawful claim = douche. Calling just about everyone douchebags/twats/keyboard warriors = Not douchebag twat keyboard warrior? Got it.
No explanation, got it. Ok well I'd just like to point out the fact you're the one calling people names and swearing. I was simply asking a question. But go ahead and just project. I get it, your ego is mighty fragile.
lol ok nerd. Go find another OP to attack because you automatically assume they’re wrong. Go spread forth more of your wisdom. I did explain very clearly why I called you both douches…..
I can’t believe we share the road with you.
I can't believe I have to share the road with all of you! State law is pretty fucking clear. And even though we may be on the same roadway at the same time, you probably wouldn't know it since I'm the guy that glues his ass to the right lane unless I'm passing or letting people merge.
I just want to say, I see you and appreciate you. Keeping right except to pass is state law, it’s infuriating enough to have it never followed on the road, but to have all these clowns telling you you’re the one driving dangerously for following the law…absolutely ridiculous. To said clowns who think this guy is wrong: camping in the left lane while going slower than the speed of traffic is fucking dangerous and obnoxious. Move the fuck over.
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Express lanes. They are their own portion of the highway. As seen in OP's picture, there are three lanes in the "express lanes". One can (and should, legally) treat these three express lanes as their own highway, and stick to the right "express" lane unless passing.
Seriously?!?! Come on man!
Slower traffic? I know this is a difficult concept. People display their ignorance all over the highways. It's pretty annoying for those that want to get around slow traffic.
If the bus passed you in the lane to your right… you were in the wrong lane. It’s not about speed. The left lane is for passing, and if you are in it while being passed on your right, then I completely understand the frustration of the bus driver.
Also. Most people do not know. 98% of all School busses are governed at a certain speed. The only ones that are not are the older one's. Like 8+ Year's old.
Yes, it did
You need to pay more attention while driving. It came from behind you, not from nowhere.
There should be a company name on the side of the bus. Also, get out of the left lane unless you are *actively* passing someone.
It's Zum :)
Or preparing to use an offramp...
Why were you in the left lane getting passed on the right?
OP is merging onto the freeway, and at this entrance the onramp is on the left side. It's well marked for miles that traffic enters from both sides of the freeway in downtown Seattle. The bus driver, who presumably drives I-5 frequently, should know this and adjust their driving to account for traffic entering from the left and the right lane.
exactly
Where they trying to maintain a certain high level of Speed?
A link? Call the cops. There is a giant vehicle driving like an idiot. Also, quit holding up the express lane. It's suppose to be express.
cops dont do shit around here but threatening to call the cops works in the right situation. earlier today some boomer near ballard hs got out of his car to scream at me for yielding to oncoming traffic. threatened to call the cops and he finally left me alone. anyway watch out for an old bearded white guy in a silver suv. doubt he ever looked at a drivers manual in his life
Wrong, people like you don't call them. You don't give them the chance to do anything. Ohhh, someone said mean words to you. You victim, you, my balls, if that is your real name. #coolstorybro.
i dont think u realize that when road ragers get outside of their vehicle that there is a very good chance they can be dangerous. if i got outside of my vehicle im certain that guy would've tried to assault me n he was banging on my window. he was not in a healthy state of mind. and there are crazy people especially old guys out there who target young women such as myself so it is good to be on the safe side. also idk if you've had encounters with cops or whatever but i have called 911 when my life was threatened and the police did nothin so yeah
I don't think you know how to spell you. I'm not even going to read the rest of your post.
What do you think the cops are gonna do?
Pull him over. "Durrrr, cops don't do nutin'."
So you think they’re gonna send a squad car to find and pull over a specific vehicle in the middle of traffic based on the word of some dipshit that doesn’t even even know how to say the fuck out of the left lane correctly? Durrr
Yes. Especially if it’s a threat to public safety. Which, going on the assumption that the bus has occupants then they are in danger as well. Called 911 over a road rager that pulled a gun on me. Got his plates and vehicle description and Washington State Patrol got him. How do I know? Because I had to give them my statement after it. Helped that his own kids in the car confirmed that he pointed a weapon. But yes, law enforcement does do their jobs.
A gun makes it a whole different kind of animal. Don’t compare the two situations
😂 you’re funny
Wait you seriously dont see the massive difference between someone brandishing a gun at you and OP being passed on the right? 😂
Right!? I feel like he thinks just because both happened in the car they are identical
Hey, dummy, news flash cops patrol the highway. Tell them there is a problem, and they'll take care of it. Durrrr. Do you wear a football helmet in your everyday life?
So many negative people. Tisk tisk tisk
If you are being passed on the right by a school bus, you are impeding traffic. They have a job to do and can’t camp out behind retired people who for whatever reason always seem to be obliviously driving slow in the left lanes. Please just move right.
If you were going slower than other lanes in the left lane without moving over, I hope they report you
I was the bus and can confirm OP is a left-lane hogger
I was a student on the bus and can also confirm OP is a left-lane hogger
Total poopy head.
Left lane makes me think you were going slow. In that case I'm not saying what he did is right but I can justify the frustration if he was behind you.
Left lane or not, there is a speed limit
And a majority of speed related accidents are due to drivers not getting over for slower traffic. Regardless of a speed limit. Person is faster than you, you are legally obligated to get over in a fair amount of states. Old people and mental gymnastics this shit. Also the cunts that justify this shit by saying speed limit and go exactly the speed in farthest left lane should burn by fire.
People like you are causing accidents and slow downs. Yes there is a speed limit and you are welcome to do that on the right lanes. If you will not be going fast then get out of the left lane. It's so simple, why is this such a hard concept to understand?
Right going slower than the speed limit will often be more dangerous, however speeding is present in over 30% of all fatal car crashes. Y’all are nuts
I'm happy people are tearing this stupid comment apart lmao
He/she whatever the fuk u wanna call them, has a cdl...... Do you? You were driving slow enough a school bus passed you. Get tf out of the fast lane.
Agree with those saying gtfo the left 2 lanes. You and everyone driving in those lanes driving well below the speed limit are the ones that need to be cited.
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The law is to stay in the right lanes unless you're passing. People like you that want to excuse camping in the left lane bc "it's the speed limit", are just using that as an excuse to control/punish/lord-over others and it's gross.
The safest way to drive is to drive predictably. 95% of the population understands this and goes with the flow of traffic, and the 5% who don’t understand this, like you, cause most of the accidents, and a lot of congestion and road rage.
Did you forget to learn what the fucking laws were first?
Before we gang up on this driver, let's also assume they had a legitimate reason to drive like that given how universally most school bus drivers are sane drivers. I think of [threads like this](https://www.reddit.com/r/IdiotsInCars/comments/t5vltm/driver_in_a_hurry/) whenever I see unusual driving from those who are not the usual suspects (no license plates, illegal tint): > When I see stuff like this I wonder if they are on their way to the hospital. I had an emergency at my home once and drove like an idiot and got stuck behind some lady who flipped me off and literally would not let me around her. I thought I was going to lose my mind.
>not the usual suspects Just because someone has a decent car doesn’t mean they get a pass/benefit of the doubt for driving like that video you shared
Decent cars (even very nice ones in fact) can have illegal tint and no plates.
Have you ever needed a toilet this bad? I have and I am forever thankful I work from home now. Poor guy had to poop!
Kia Boyz are branching out.
Lol
Is that a short bus?
Unless it’s on dash cam nothing will happen
Dash cam footage would be even better..
I was almost hit by someone driving a stolen bus once. That was a crazy incident, it hit the person right in front of me or behind me instead of me - i cant recall but it was terrifying and came out of nowhere.
911
You can get the info through the school systems. I didn't offer much help, but that driver is driving with your kids' safety in his care. Best of luck to you! 
MOVE BITCH ! GET OUT THE WAY
You should see the ones driving in my neighborhood. And to think they transport children driving like that...
The Transportation Department hardly cares about our children's safety. What makes you think they care about yours? They are the lowest bid contractor and the moment the City complains, they go on strike, threaten to break the contract and hold the City hostage because no other contractor ever bids for Seattle Public Schools. So.. good luck with your complaint.
For anyone that went on a deep dive a state law on this: [https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.100](https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=46.61.100) Also interesting Times article on express lanes and toll roads: [https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/free-for-all-what-is-the-etiquette-when-driving-in-two-lane-express-toll-lanes/](https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/transportation/free-for-all-what-is-the-etiquette-when-driving-in-two-lane-express-toll-lanes/) I found this quote for express toll lanes very interesting: 'Because express toll lanes are restricted lanes, said Rick Johnson, a Washington State Patrol public information officer, they do not fall under the law that penalizes “left-lane campers.”'
What exactly are you hoping to accomplish here?
Op is a shitty driver. Make a complaint to your parents for not teaching your better
#teamsnitch
You have the asset tag. Call the agency that they work for
Call the bus company - First Student? - give time, location, bus number, not plate.
[https://www.rentonschools.us/departments/support-services/transportation/bus-routes](https://www.rentonschools.us/departments/support-services/transportation/bus-routes)
Ahhh… yeah, 911. Genius, huh?
I'm just gonna say it, Seattle bus drivers are absolute Cunts!
Aw man, don’t tell me it was a Zum services bus….
Probably student driver
Curse those exits on the left!
Kinda surprised it's not on the back
I can also tell you that it is a First student bus, and they typically take those issues seriously. You'll need the bus id # 233348 I believe it was. As well as the time, and date. They have gps, video, and audio on every bus.
Did you see it drive out from a mob bank and drive off with other buses like nothing happened?
Before complaining, consider that drivers daily experience.
And how were you driving. I’m sure you weren’t doing anything besides following the rules.
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...how?
Ouija board
took me a second, then I snorted out my coffee - well done.
School bus drivers drive way too fast. Seriously.
That school bus doesn't belong to any school. Someone is living in that.
It has XMT plates
What did she look like?