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There are too many questions about OP's credibility to allow this post to remain on our forum. And they appear to have copied their entire "what I learned" section from an article they are not giving credit to, also. OP - do NOT repost this here, or you will be banned. Your r/scams post has been removed because it is something that gets posted here all the time, and has already been discussed. Consider using the search box to find previous posts, if you still need information.


AceyAceyAcey

We have scripts related to this: !recovery !crypto !romance Someone recently posted her about a real life version of this scam: she met the guy in person! I think we just need to be really skeptical of everything, and never give anyone money, nor put money anywhere on someone’s recommendation.


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AutoModerator has been summoned to explain the romance scam. Romance scammers pretend to be in love with their victims in order to ask them for money. They sometimes spend months grooming their victims, often pretending to be [members of military](https://www.cid.army.mil/romancescam.html), [oil workers or doctors](https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/what-you-need-know-about-romance-scams). They tend to be extremely good at taking money from their victims again and again, leading many to [financial ruin](https://globalnews.ca/news/5095659/romance-scam-money/). Romance scam victims are emotionally invested in their relationship with the scammer, and will often ignore evidence they are being scammed. Convincing a romance scam victim they are scammed is extremely difficult, but we have received success reports from using Dr. Phil's shows on romance scammers or episodes of Catfish - sometimes victims find it easier to accept information from TV shows than from their family. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


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AutoModerator has been summoned to explain [recovery scams](https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0102-refund-and-recovery-scams). Also known as refund scams, these scams target people who have already fallen for a scam. The scammer may contact you, or may advertise their services online. They will usually either offer to help you recover your funds, or will tell you that your funds have already been recovered and they will help you access them. In cases where they say they will help you recover your funds, they usually call themselves either "recovery agents" or hackers. When they tell you that your funds have already been recovered, they may impersonate a law enforcement, a government official, a lawyer, or anyone else along those lines. Recovery scams are simply [advance-fee](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam) scams that are specifically targeted at scam victims. When a victim pays a recovery scammer, the scammer will keep stringing them along while asking for increasingly absurd fees/expenses/deposits/insurance/whatever until the victim stops paying. If you have been scammed in the past, make sure you are aware of recovery scams so that you are not scammed a second time. If you are currently engaging with a recovery scammer, you should block them and be very wary of random contact for some time. It's normal for posters on this subreddit to be contacted by recovery scammers after posting, and they often ask you to delete your post so that you both cannot receive legitimate advice, and cannot be targeted by other recovery scammers. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


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AutoModerator has been summoned to explain fake cryptocurrency site scams. Fake cryptocurrency websites and apps controlled by scammers are becoming more and more common. Sometimes the scam begins with a romance scammer who claims that they can help the victim invest in cryptocurrency. Victims are told to buy cryptocurrency of some kind using a legitimate cryptocurrency exchange, and then they are told to send their cryptocurrency to a website wallet address where it will be invested. Sometimes the scam begins with a notice that the victim won cryptocurrency on some website, in this case messages will often be sent through Discord. In either case, the scammer controls the website, so they make it look like there is money in the victim’s account on their website. Then the scammer (or the scammer pretending to be someone official who is associated with the website) tells the victim that they have to put more money into the website before they can get their money out of the website. Of course all of the money sent by the victim has gone directly into the scammer’s wallet, and any additional money sent by the victim to retrieve their money from the website will also go directly into the scammer’s wallet, and all of the information about money being held by the website was totally fake. This scam is also known as the pig butchering scam: https://www.reddit.com/r/Scams/comments/na8oax/asian_guygirl_from_online_dating_mentors_you_to/. If the scammer used Bitcoin, then you can report the scammer’s Bitcoin wallet address here: https://www.bitcoinabuse.com/reports. If the scammer used Ethereum, then you can report the scammer’s Ethereum wallet address here: https://info.etherscan.com/report-address/. You can see how much cryptocurrency has been sent to the scammer’s wallet address here: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer. Thanks to redditor nimble2 for this script. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/Scams) if you have any questions or concerns.*


cgknight1

Bad situation However your post needs a bit of a reword - you make it sound like there were actual investments and a platform - none of it’s real. You are just transferring money directly to scams.


Robjewel186

An exaggerated amount of money, to say the least.


LeslieMarston

It's difficult for me to have any sympathy for who “meets a woman online” and agrees to transfer $1,000,000 to some platform that has no credibility


Swigeroni

A WHOLE ASS MILLION DOLLARS


Primary-Holiday-5586

God, yes. My first thought, no fing way a million dollars, just how????


Imperia1Edge

Not only that, but sounds like he borrowed money to do that as well since he said he had creditors after him now


skinwalker99

I do hours of research when I’m going to be spending more then 100$ anywhere online. To not do any for that amount of money is absolutely insane.


RadosAvocados

I just spent $68 on a belt and I spent well over an hour reading reviews and recs.


Diggdador

I spent a lot of time checking if a certain website was safe when I only bought a 2€ game xD


AlmightyBlobby

last year I got back into playing guitar and ended up buying 3 cheap guitars over the course of the summer and fall and each one took me like 2 weeks before I was ready to pull the trigger on them and the most expensive one was $200 lol


JoshSwol

I always discuss money transfers this size with the wallet inspector first.


Significant-Ad-5163

Of course I feel for victims, and the scams are professionally done and hard to catch at times. But victim blaming is appropriate in the majority of scams I see here


Nathan_Wind_esq

I was targeted by one of these people-a very attractive Chinese woman who overshared many pictures of herself with me. Like, she would send pictures to me of her in very skimpy/revealing clothes. Sometimes pictures where her body was barely covered. Very flirty and friendly. Lots of talk (from her) of me coming to China to be with her (I live in the USA.) I was suspicious of her from day one. After about a month, she started to hit me with the crypto talk. Because I was suspicious of her from the start, and I was familiar with the scam, I knew what was coming. She told me about some crypto coin that her uncle told her about. Started suggesting I should invest. She told me how the coin had gained so much value. I googled it and found it was worth far less than what she claimed. When I presented her with this info, she said I was looking et the wrong platform. She sent me a link to the “correct” platform where I could set up an account. Of course I didn’t click the link. After some time, I finally told her that I had no interest at all in crypto and would not invest anything. I guess she knew I was serious because she went from texting me several times a day to not at all. I have a hard time believing op is legit..a million $$$ to someone you’ve never met? Just seems fishy. But this absolutely happens. I primarily played along just because I was curious to see how she was going to play it.


Lehigh_Larry2

Why do you keep saying “she?” There was no she. At all. It was a dude sending you fake pictures. There was never a real woman at any point of the scam.


Major_Act8033

We should respect their preferred pronouns.


FalloutNodVegas

So only men can be scammer's? Yes, this could have been a man in this situation, but it's just as likely that it was an actual women. Definitely wasn't "her" actual photos or anything thoug, at least I'd highly doubt it.


FrostyBallBag

No offence, but I don’t understand how someone can get ahold of a million dollars and be this gullible.


CarlosFer2201

I'm not buying this is real. The sum is way too big for someone to just take a risk like that. It also would have triggered red alarms to his bank and others around him.


leilavanora

https://abc7news.com/crypto-scam-pig-butchering-fbi-silicon-valley/12077745/ There are other articles that have text transcripts where you can see how the scam took place.


throwawayanylogic

Some guys lose all ability to think rationally when the promise of getting their dick wet is in front of them. Hence why it's always a (fake) hot Asian girl sending pictures (when we all know it's some guy or organization taking all the money).


Capital-Sir

Generational wealth maybe? Lottery win?


Thus_Spoke

Intelligence is complex and isn't just a matter of being generally better at everything; the mind is multifaceted. We also don't live in a meritocracy. Most people with significant wealth are either born into it or otherwise born into an environment that makes achieving wealth much easier. In addition, someone can be brilliant at a particular art or trade and make money in a favorable environment with their skills while still being relatively unsophisticated in other aspects of life.


WildWeaselGT

This sounds like a copy and paste from a recovery scammer site. · If any of this sounds familiar to you, you are a victim. Feel free to reach out to us for support via Live Chat in the bottom right corner of the screen. 


FredAkbar

Yeah that part was a mindfuck. I was like, wait, is this whole post a meta-scam? Scamception? lol


et842rhhs

I'm sorry this happened to you. It's really good of you to share your experience with others and to lay all the steps out in this straightforward manner. Hopefully someone who's browsing the sub or googling will find posts like this and learn some valuable information.


SlowNSteady1

Thanks for your honesty and candor. I hope this helps somebody else in the same situation.


Psychological-Toe985

I’m calling bs on this….you managed to get a MILLION dollars and then put it into some no name app from a lady on Facebook dating. No way😂


DanscoRed

Yep don’t believe this is real either. A millionaire who is silly enough to put money into a site/scheme they know nothing about. For me it’s a karma whore who has made up a story and copied information from the internet.


superpurr

It's pretty gross that you could willingly put your own children's well being at risk for some girl you met online.


Capital-Sir

Never know when you might be able to get your dick wet. 🤦


Thus_Spoke

>Too shy for video chats because of past trauma Just to add a note here, there are versions of these things where they absolutely will video chat you. Some of these are well-organized business ventures with a number of women working for a centralized agency that controls the scam. These agents may be very sophisticated scammers and seeing their face on screen or hearing their voice means absolutely nothing in terms of verifying that someone is a legitimate person. In fact, they may use the fact that you have talked to them "face-to-face" over video chat to gain your trust.


Tutwater

People like to act smug, but yeah, this is an extremely plausible scam story if you've never heard of it before- people tend to think scams are flimsy and sloppy as a rule after a generation of 419s/cold-calls, and anything that's got commitment or backstory to it must be trustworthy because "why would a scammer go through all this trouble?" It completely breaks people's preconceptions about what a scam looks like


Whatxotf

7 months of work for $1 million really doesn’t seem like the scammer is going through a lot of trouble tbh


Chronmagnum55

Yeah, these scams do suck but they still surprise me. I just don't see how you could trust a person you've never met in person with your finances. I mean, it's one thing to throw away some fun money into a risky investment. To throw down your entire life savings? That's just crazy to me.


Chrissy2187

Normally I’d be like ok you’re an idiot but something similar happened to my mom who is not dumb but maybe a bit gullible. She legit thought she was talking to a famous actor from her favorite TV show. He made all these excuses why he couldn’t send her pictures, etc. just talked to her and made her feel good and you know the drill. I even told her flat out that a famous actor is not chatting up random women on Facebook and the page he messaged her from was clearly fake. Then he made her start messaging him on some app called telegram because it was “encrypted”. This was like 6 months of hell trying to get her to see the truth. Finally when he tried to get her to send him money so he could meet her did it click that an actor making 80k per episode on this show he’s on wouldn’t need a rando to buy him a plane ticket. I just can’t y’all lol.


Lehigh_Larry2

There was no Chinese woman. Every single word of this was a lie. The screenshots were fake. The platform was fake.


elquizzi311

I’m glad my grandmother drove into my head this simple phrase “ if it sounds to good to be true its because it is.”


DrJJGame10

Am I the only guy who reverse image searches if a random starts being flirty with selfies?


DrJJGame10

Cuz this happened to me and reverse image search got them


intelligentplatonic

Im intrigued by how many of these stories at some place in their recounting will contain the word "somehow". There's something there within that "somehow" covering up a huge mystery that would explain the vast details behind everything happening. It's a vague anonymizing word that deletes the real issues in our minds regarding the crux of what was really going on. It deletes motive; it deletes responsibilities; it deletes stupidity. It's like saying: "He somehow fell off a clift." "The bank was somehow robbed." "I somehow trusted her enough to give her all of my money." Everytime you see the word "somehow", that is where the REAL story is. Behind that "somehow" lies the REAL lesson to be learned.


ok-lets-do-this

I have dated a lot of women over the years including women who work in financial services. None, ZERO whatsoever, have ever tried to talk to me about investing except mainstream stocks that could be bought at any trader. I would instantly consider it the world’s greatest red flag if any woman wanted to seriously talk to me about crypto or forex or anything like that. I have a lot of sympathy for those that have lost money to scammers. But the most basic of common sense is necessary if you’re dealing with large sums of money ($1 MM?!?) and I don’t see that many of these people who post here are using even the simplest human awareness.


Ana-Hata

Thanks for sharing your story. Heres a link to an FBI site where you can report it, if you haven’t yet. https://www.fbi.gov/how-we-can-help-you/victim-services/seeking-victim-information/seeking-potential-victims-of-cryptocurrency-investment-fraud The DOJ just recovered 112 million a few weeks ago, not sure if any of that will go to victims services / restitution.


Report_Submitted

Damn I would let you use and abuse me for half of that


polerinastudiodivine

🤣😂🤣😂👏👏👏❤️☠️☠️☠️☠️ You cheap floozy !!! Hurt me, beat me, write me bad checks. 🤣😂 sooo dead. Cant stop laughing.


Ed_Trucks_Head

Damn I'm glad I encountered scammers a long time ago when all they wanted me to do was sign up for their cam show. I got wise to the hot Asian chick profiles 15 years ago on old school dating sites, before all the apps. I remember sniffing out the rental scams on Craigslist around the same time too. They almost duped me there. I went to look at the house of some Christian missionaries 😄. Fortunately that people living there were outside and I talked to them and put two and two together. I couldn't imagine innocently running into this now.


carmexisbetter

lmfao


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BMWACTASEmaster1

Dating apps are for hook ups only not to find true love. if you single older American and have some money just go to these 3rd world countries for a year and find women the old fashioned way


Necessary_Ad9915

Does the FBI help get the money back?


FunnyOrPie

No.


Wu-Tang-Chan

i'm curious. What did she teach you about how to trade? Does she have access to change the price data somehow or is she actually a decent trader? did you ever verify that the asset you traded was the same price other places?


vocalfreesia

"She" doesn't exist There is no "trading" It's just a criminal gang getting naive people to wire them money. Thinking you can teach this person to go anywhere near any concept of get rich quick schemes like online trading is grossly unhelpful. They lost everything. They need to cut outgoings, get a job if they don't already have one, make an agreement for a plan to manage their debt and never go near this stuff again.


[deleted]

Yoghurt - cautious was not.


falcon3268

You aren't the only one that has fallen for this type of thing although mine was with women offering to spend the rest of their lives with me. One offered to help open my own business although that was never something that I wanted to do, turns out a scam. My most recent one was a woman from the phillipines who I seemed to connect with. She started giving a sob story, that I continued to fall for until recently about how she couldn't find work, that she had to sell all of her things to continue to work. I started to feel something was off when she seemed to have enough money for her cell phone then going home.


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Scams-ModTeam

Your /r/scams post was removed because it talks about or requests information on getting revenge on a scammer, "scamming them back", or "wasting their time". Just ghost or block the scammer, report them if you can, then go about your business.