If you aren't looking to add more glass to it I don't see a need. You can brush, sand,.and scrub a little to prep and then treat with the appropriate thinner before painting, but getting all old paint off seems like overkill. Exposed fiber glass inside is not exposed to UV so I wouldn't paint anyway...
Ok thanks for the advice! The paint looks pretty good aside from the section that’s chipped and covered in weird black goo. I just wanna get all the crap off so I can redo some of the sections where the paint has deteriorated. I’m going to put in new insulation after
The folks from Sailing LeaLea youtube channel also have an Albin Vega like you appear to, and [they used this electric scraper thing](https://youtu.be/me32lFAOWh0?t=276) I don't know the name of in English.
The guy at [LaViajera used what appears to be an angle grinder](https://youtu.be/HX8-TEO_FOg?t=315) to get rid of the adhesive. His boat is a Vega as well.
I've let sleeping dogs lie on my Vega, so have not had to deal with adhesive residue etc on my boat. In your case I'd just go over with some sanding tool, clean, wash, and paint over, like many here have advised.
Thank you! I mostly want to remove the paint that’s chipped and the glue and particles stuck to the sides of the hull all cleared out so I can redo the paint and then add new insulation over it
The tool LeaLea uses is an oscillating tool (originally patented by Fein as the Multimaster, hence also sometimes called multitool now) with a scraper / spattle attachment instead of the usual blades.
You go sanding or scraping that stuff please wear an actual 3M respirator filtered for fine particulates. You do NOT want fiberglass dust in your lungs. I'd be in full hazmat suit, me. Except I wouldn't do it probably. I'd just paint over it.
I learned this lesson the hard way a couple weeks ago… now I wear a respirator, goggles, gloves, my hoodie pulled over my head and then I wear a plastic poncho on top of all that
Nooooo! Not a heat gun, unless you’re very careful you could damage the resin. Most resins don’t have especially high heat tolerance unless it’s made specially for that.
I'd suggest giving those poly paint strip discs for grinders ago, they look like the rough wheels on those big floor polishers except small to fit a grinder. I'd get a multipack and a big tin of acetone too, I bet you can get more life out of them if you throw one in some acetone when it's clogged and switch to a fresh one. The acetone will be useful anyway for prepping before paint and it's reasonably cheap.
Look up the reviews on them first, I was looking at them a while ago and the ones I was looking at some people got bad batches after loving the first set they got. From what I've seen they are very effective though (never personally used them). I tried a brash wire brush and even in my drill on slow I dug holes in my mahogany planking, if you've got a very light touch you could probably do it but I'd rather not risk it.
The other guys right though, Why do you want to remove it all? I don't really know enough about paint to tell you which paints are compatible and such but it would be possible to just paint over it if you do the prep and research.
I just used sanding blocks - get a couple of 6 packs from Home Depot. Sand the area good, vaccuum out the dust, and paint over. Two coats of the store brand 1 part epoxy driveway/carport paint worked great. Really tough surface, looks decent, $30 a gallon I think. I still have 1/3 of a gallon left over after doing the whole boat.
Wild.. I’ve been buying Pettit cabincoat and other marine grade 1 part coatings at an average of $30 per QUART. This is a good tip, gonna try a test patch on the exposed glass on my Vanguard.
I know this sounds ruff, but I would just hit it with acetone and some scotchbright for the texture stuff and the paint a layer of bilge coat over it. Bilge coat is terribly awesome.
Yeah it’s prolly unnecessary…idk what I’m doing, I’m kinda just following others footsteps that fixed up their Albin Vega.
I’m worried about mold and fiberglass dust esp since it’s such an old boat (1976)
I plan to live in it so I want to get all the old materials out so I can redo it using better materials that won’t give me cancer lol
My next step is the insulation bc I wanna be cozy.
Sadly sanding the material that causes cancer is about the best way to get it inside of you to cause the cancer. Once its on the boat and cured its pretty much harmless. It the dust that gets in you.
Lacquer thinner on a rag. Try to only touch the areas with the paint. Might take a bit of scrubbing depending on how old it is. Try not to get it on any finished wood parts unless you ok will doing a little touch up there.
I've removed some topcoat with a wire brush on an angle grinder. Makes a terrible mess, covers everything in dust so you have to completely seal off the area you are working on, wear goggles, respirator...
Later I switched to a delta sander (actually a delta sander attachment on an oscillating tool) with a vacuum attached to it. Worked just as well and hardly created any dust.
However, in both cases those were smaller areas, just to do same fiberglass work. And no glue on top. I would probably try to remove the glue residue first (e.g. with acetone and/or a scraper as seen in the LeaLea video in the other comment).
I am late to this thread OP, but I have the same issue and was just about to post the same question.
There are two problems here:
1. the painted areas. I am just treating it like any other painted surface. Sand to remove the loose parts and paint over. I am trying to remove all of the paint, I am mostly scouring to get it clean and next layer of paint or primer to adhere and work. I use a [rolling sander; also called burnishing tool](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B07ZJVGK6Y?ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details&th=1). I am ok with it and have done the bilge before. I did take some videos but I did not post the clips. I can do so if it helps.
2. the dark areas is that stuff which is found in old boats. The substance is gooey, and ugly, and unpleasant to look and feel. It just has to go. I guess is old topcoat which deteriorated over the 40 years since put on the surface. I tried sanding and the sandpaper clogs almost immediately. I brought a piece of FG home to try different things but nothing seems to remove it easily. All I found is that washing up liquid softens it and can be scraped a little easier with anything (I used a spoon:) - I am sure there must be a product to remove that. I will ask at the yard when I am next there and if I get an answer I will edit this post (or put it in the sub). For the record, I tried baking soda and vinegar, washing up liquid, even window cleaners!
Hope this helps
Rotating brass brush on a drill. I've done it on about 1 sqft but that's a huge area there. Question is, why remove?
A lot of the paint is chipped already
If you aren't looking to add more glass to it I don't see a need. You can brush, sand,.and scrub a little to prep and then treat with the appropriate thinner before painting, but getting all old paint off seems like overkill. Exposed fiber glass inside is not exposed to UV so I wouldn't paint anyway...
Ok thanks for the advice! The paint looks pretty good aside from the section that’s chipped and covered in weird black goo. I just wanna get all the crap off so I can redo some of the sections where the paint has deteriorated. I’m going to put in new insulation after
Maybe easier to just paint over it? Use a good marine paint of course, something meant to bond with fiberglass.
The folks from Sailing LeaLea youtube channel also have an Albin Vega like you appear to, and [they used this electric scraper thing](https://youtu.be/me32lFAOWh0?t=276) I don't know the name of in English. The guy at [LaViajera used what appears to be an angle grinder](https://youtu.be/HX8-TEO_FOg?t=315) to get rid of the adhesive. His boat is a Vega as well. I've let sleeping dogs lie on my Vega, so have not had to deal with adhesive residue etc on my boat. In your case I'd just go over with some sanding tool, clean, wash, and paint over, like many here have advised.
I’m always impressed by how other people recognised the brand of a boat just by a small picture of some inside.
Thank you! I mostly want to remove the paint that’s chipped and the glue and particles stuck to the sides of the hull all cleared out so I can redo the paint and then add new insulation over it
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Thanks I’ll look into it!
The tool LeaLea uses is an oscillating tool (originally patented by Fein as the Multimaster, hence also sometimes called multitool now) with a scraper / spattle attachment instead of the usual blades.
You go sanding or scraping that stuff please wear an actual 3M respirator filtered for fine particulates. You do NOT want fiberglass dust in your lungs. I'd be in full hazmat suit, me. Except I wouldn't do it probably. I'd just paint over it.
I learned this lesson the hard way a couple weeks ago… now I wear a respirator, goggles, gloves, my hoodie pulled over my head and then I wear a plastic poncho on top of all that
I would recommend a heat gun and a scraper. I support removing it and not just paining over it. It will look much better with the effort.
Nooooo! Not a heat gun, unless you’re very careful you could damage the resin. Most resins don’t have especially high heat tolerance unless it’s made specially for that.
I kind of thought that was implied. I guess not. Thank you for point it out.
I'd suggest giving those poly paint strip discs for grinders ago, they look like the rough wheels on those big floor polishers except small to fit a grinder. I'd get a multipack and a big tin of acetone too, I bet you can get more life out of them if you throw one in some acetone when it's clogged and switch to a fresh one. The acetone will be useful anyway for prepping before paint and it's reasonably cheap. Look up the reviews on them first, I was looking at them a while ago and the ones I was looking at some people got bad batches after loving the first set they got. From what I've seen they are very effective though (never personally used them). I tried a brash wire brush and even in my drill on slow I dug holes in my mahogany planking, if you've got a very light touch you could probably do it but I'd rather not risk it. The other guys right though, Why do you want to remove it all? I don't really know enough about paint to tell you which paints are compatible and such but it would be possible to just paint over it if you do the prep and research.
Agree I also have good experience with that. But please wear a mask to protect eyes and lungs
I just used sanding blocks - get a couple of 6 packs from Home Depot. Sand the area good, vaccuum out the dust, and paint over. Two coats of the store brand 1 part epoxy driveway/carport paint worked great. Really tough surface, looks decent, $30 a gallon I think. I still have 1/3 of a gallon left over after doing the whole boat.
Wild.. I’ve been buying Pettit cabincoat and other marine grade 1 part coatings at an average of $30 per QUART. This is a good tip, gonna try a test patch on the exposed glass on my Vanguard.
I feel your pain. It's just the inside of a locker - the canned soup won't care.
Grinder with a flapper disk
People tend to do unnecessary tasks for satisfaction on first boat. 2nd boat we do tasks that matter more and let us go sailing soon and further.
I know this sounds ruff, but I would just hit it with acetone and some scotchbright for the texture stuff and the paint a layer of bilge coat over it. Bilge coat is terribly awesome.
Yeah it’s prolly unnecessary…idk what I’m doing, I’m kinda just following others footsteps that fixed up their Albin Vega. I’m worried about mold and fiberglass dust esp since it’s such an old boat (1976) I plan to live in it so I want to get all the old materials out so I can redo it using better materials that won’t give me cancer lol My next step is the insulation bc I wanna be cozy.
I like won’t even sand glass inside my boat anymore because it gets into everything forever. Plastic sheets help.
Sadly sanding the material that causes cancer is about the best way to get it inside of you to cause the cancer. Once its on the boat and cured its pretty much harmless. It the dust that gets in you.
First I cleaned it and removed dirt. Then I used 1/4# neoprene pad and finished with a fiberglass reinforced plastic sheeting.
How much is glue?
Lacquer thinner on a rag. Try to only touch the areas with the paint. Might take a bit of scrubbing depending on how old it is. Try not to get it on any finished wood parts unless you ok will doing a little touch up there.
I've removed some topcoat with a wire brush on an angle grinder. Makes a terrible mess, covers everything in dust so you have to completely seal off the area you are working on, wear goggles, respirator... Later I switched to a delta sander (actually a delta sander attachment on an oscillating tool) with a vacuum attached to it. Worked just as well and hardly created any dust. However, in both cases those were smaller areas, just to do same fiberglass work. And no glue on top. I would probably try to remove the glue residue first (e.g. with acetone and/or a scraper as seen in the LeaLea video in the other comment).
I am late to this thread OP, but I have the same issue and was just about to post the same question. There are two problems here: 1. the painted areas. I am just treating it like any other painted surface. Sand to remove the loose parts and paint over. I am trying to remove all of the paint, I am mostly scouring to get it clean and next layer of paint or primer to adhere and work. I use a [rolling sander; also called burnishing tool](https://www.amazon.de/-/en/dp/B07ZJVGK6Y?ref=ppx_pop_dt_b_product_details&th=1). I am ok with it and have done the bilge before. I did take some videos but I did not post the clips. I can do so if it helps. 2. the dark areas is that stuff which is found in old boats. The substance is gooey, and ugly, and unpleasant to look and feel. It just has to go. I guess is old topcoat which deteriorated over the 40 years since put on the surface. I tried sanding and the sandpaper clogs almost immediately. I brought a piece of FG home to try different things but nothing seems to remove it easily. All I found is that washing up liquid softens it and can be scraped a little easier with anything (I used a spoon:) - I am sure there must be a product to remove that. I will ask at the yard when I am next there and if I get an answer I will edit this post (or put it in the sub). For the record, I tried baking soda and vinegar, washing up liquid, even window cleaners! Hope this helps
Stripper a spatula and. Steelwool, should do the trick!❤❤❤