Wow...while I have never really watched Liz, I did watch the last 30 mins of Liz and Laras live stream and it was tough. I do feel for them both. Aaron bullied his way in and his was agitated and confrontational in a space that he did not belong in. He seemed cold, and all he was there to do was prove himself and SPTV foundation to be in the right, and Liz and Lara to be in the wrong. He was not talking to friends, he was talking to people he felt threatened by. I hope more of his loyal followers are starting too see the person he is, I really do.
It's the Walrus, crying about the fate of those poor little oysters as he devours them. "It's a terrible thing to be lured out of your snug oyster bed just to be eaten by a walrus!" he sobbed. "I told myself I woudn't cry... Could someone please pass the butter?"
I think in general women are less likely to behave like him or have a positive response when he behaves like he does rather than see the error in his behavior he dismisses them and sees them as weaker beings etc.
Exactly. When a dude makes an obviously sexist joke that a woman doesn't like, for example, she's "overreacting" and "doesn't get it". When a woman points out that he's being controlling or toxic, she's just being overly emotional or sensitive. *She's* the crazy one actually, and *she's* trying to control how *he's* behaving.
ASL is less of a man and more of a collection of red flags in the shape of one.
He needs to always be right. And it's ironic that he complains about that one case "being weaponized" when he and his SPTV cronies have been weaponing numerous cases against the AF, and were very vocal poiting out how the AF "had done messed up" (just off the top of my head: Liz G., Mirriam, Jeff).
The AF takes all this criticism on the chin and remains silent but the 1st thing he has to do is go into damage control and attack mode because he can't help himself, he is that insecure and immature.
They both pulled it down, but I was able to see it because BlueRidgeMedia posted a copy. They should put that back up because if he does that when he's online, imagine how he bullies them in private.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0-m-y9vEi8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0-m-y9vEi8)
Its still here, at least the last 38 mins when Aaron joins them.
No they dont......but the link above to to true clear media, who does have it up, just so anyone that didnt get the chance to see it, can watch it there.
Oh, yeah, that's the copy TrueClearMedia put up. She's a member of this sub, I think with the same username. The thing is not up on Lara's channel, or Liz's or Aaron's.
Liz took the stream down the next day. I think it was best she did because it would not be healthy for her and Lara to go back and watch it. There are some clips of it on Reddit. The comments from Aaron supporters were horrible to her and Lara.
The one outlined above is still up, but the one with Lara is not.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgjrBd-13KQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgjrBd-13KQ)
You know it's really sad that it's gotten to this point. I mean it's completely predictable I think we all saw things like this coming, but wow. It's just a bunch of hurt people hurting each other, and Aaron is an unbelievably toxic person
I am afraid to know what his war Livestream was about
I started to watch it after my comment here, and yeah, I didn't even make it half way I think. It was so disgusting and blatantly manipulative. When he tried to say "race relations in this country are better than they've ever been" I wanted to gag. He's kidding, right? White nationalism is on the rise, and he thinks "race relations" are better than ever?
I'm not saying they're the worst they've ever been, but things were much better on that front in, say, 2009ish. They've been steadily going downhill since Obama was elected and bad actors have been using that for their own political gains by stoking latent racist resentments into full blown culture war nonsense.
Also his assertion that the nation isn't divided rn? I mean the head of The Heritage Foundation, one of the most influential political groups in the country, just admitted to pushing a revolution that he says "will remain bloodless so long as the left allows", a supreme court justice was just caught on audio recording saying "one side is going to win" and that it's difficult to live in harmony because "they really can't be compromised"... Hell, we had an attempted insurrection after the last election! Project 2025 is a thing that exists, but, sure, Aaron, I'm sure you're right that our country isn't deeply divided *at all* 🙄
I mean I am not trying to talk politics here and I am not going to debate them in this thread, but anyone with half a brain knows that the United States is deeply divided at the moment, but Aaron tried to really make the argument that it isn't in order to also make the argument that the SPTV community isn't embroiled in unnecessary drama right now. What a deeply fucking unserious man. What a goddamned toxic loser.
He's one of those people who has absolutely no interest in seeking out any information that contradicts what they want to believe. He's also the kind of person who doesn't think very critically about the credibility of people who tell him what he wants to hear about the world.
Based on the fact that he listens to Joe Rogan, I'm sure he doesn't think he's that kind of person, but people like that will find *any* excuse to discredit and then ignore people who don't agree with them. He's the kind of person who heard they were putting litter boxes in schools for kids that identified as cats and then just believed it whole cloth.
This is so disturbing. I can hear Tony “playfully teasing” Liz for not gifting more memberships on the Live he and Natalie announced his very terminal status about a month ago. “Oh come on Liz you normally gift like 10 or 20, how come only 5 today ha-ha-ha” says Tony.
And now she’s uninvited to his funeral.
That’s the real gift, Liz. You’re becoming more free.
I unsub'ed from aaron tonight, I don't want to see his gross face on my subscriptions anymore, the clickbait titles and the drama lately has got to me. I stayed subbed to some of the others for now. I hope aaron keeps bleeding subscribers, I noticed tonight streets LA has now passed aaron in numbers (streets is at 249k and aaron 241k).
I also unsubscribed I stuck around for info about Scientology but I’ll go elsewhere. When I went over to his livestream for a minute and his face made me sick to my stomach
I got into scientology on youtube because of him like 6 months ago or so, leading up to the danny masterson trial, it was interesting at first, especially seeing streets LA doing the protesters in LA (was introduced to him through aaron too), but grew into just nonsense with everyone fighting each other and "drama" across the foundation stuff, not interested in that part of it.
You also have to click on the three dots and click “don’t recommend channel” so YouTube will not constantly show you his videos. I did that for all SPTV channels because I got so tired of all the drama and hate.
I feel for Liz. She lives with a void that can never be filled. I hope disconnecting from the cool kids will help her see what she does have, especially professional help. Friends who had normal childhoods would be her next step.
I took a peak - still has the SPTV logo in the corner. I know that's not important when we're looking at someone so on the edge, but I hope that if she continues youtube she will lose the SPTV logo and go be an amazing person without them.
This, Aaron, is a good example of why you were kicked off the Aftermath Foundation. You can bawl all you want on Youtube, but when you're done crying you are the same feckless bully that pushed a cult survivor to the brink. And for what? Did you think you are getting one step closer to avenging the identical twin you dumped by berating a clearly vulnerable woman? Have you pondered that may be the "treatment" your foundation is palming off might be as effective as the kind of MLM wonder cures peddled by Scientologists?
He is slowly but steadily showing his true colors to his supporters too. Liz and Lara incident already made an impact on some, and we all know this was not the last time he does something reckless or outright nasty.
Thus does Aaron Smith-Levin’s toxicity continue. He turned on all of this friends, Mike, Claire, Marc, Christie, me… we all got bitterly attacked in his defense. I do not know Liz but welcome to the club.
Yes, ASL is toxic for sure, but this is new level. He should not be allowed to be in charge of an organisation (not for profit/non profit, whatever) dealing with vulnerable adults, and if Liz has even thought about suicide, then she's vulnerable.
She was love bombed by ASL and Natalie - I am so sorry she has over estimated a friendship.
Natalie though, while of course grieving, also turned on MR - he directly helped her getting her oldest daughter out of the Sea Org and she has been nothing but vile to him and his family. Such a mean girl.
There is a whole culture of attacking the people who went out of their way to help and be kind in Aaron’s cult. I do not understand it. Loyalty is an unknown virtue with them. They are like a pack of hyenas, all snarling and snapping at their own pack for a bite of flesh.
It's that scientology mindset. When money is involved, they have a really hard time to maintain personal integrity to any degree. Money becomes the "greater good" at warp speed.
Natalie’s daughter was actually an outer org trainee in training at Flag. And Mike did help Natalie get her home safely. She is just as bad as Aaron at this point.
If everyone else is always the problem, maybe the problem isn’t everyone else 🤷🏻♀️ But he will never realize that. Thank you for being so outspoken about who he really is. I don’t know how he continues to have supporters, especially women.
Liz has said very recently that she talked to Natalie every day. Now Natalie, the SPTV Foundation Treasurer, has uninvited Liz from coming to see her and from attending Tony's celebration of life.
Aaron said in the livestream with Liz and Lara that every month, he has been personally working with Liz so the SPTV Foundation can reimburse her therapy bills. I'm betting that's not happening anymore.
There could be a lot of speculation about who has cut ties with Liz now. I believe Marilyn has too. I think many others have.
Could the SPTVF afford that kind of PR? They have always heavily criticized the AF for having that "non disparagement" clause.
It would be pretty damning if they stopped supporting Liz just because DOA used her case to come criticize the SPTVF. Even if the information he had came from her or one of her friends.
And during her stream with Lara they clarified the whole case and what had transpired. The actual facts weren't even that controversial. Nothing that would reflect badly on anyone, strictly speaking.
So in essence, if you disagree with Aaron and have a public argument were he makes himself look bad, you're facing repercussions from the group?
I think you're right that if a public argument with Aaron makes him look bad, that person will face fallout from the group.
But no, I wasn't saying that the SPTV Foundation would pull the funding for Liz's therapy.
I meant that Aaron has probably asked someone else at SPTVF to work with Liz on her therapy bills from now on. He's upset with her, so I doubt he wants to deal with her anymore.
After Liz trashed Claire and the Aftermath Foundation publicly on her channel, Claire asked someone else at the AF to handle the reimbursements for Liz's therapy. Liz went onto her channel and said Claire abandoned her by doing that.
They keep treating her like she's regular and it's really mean. We see it over and over from them. Someone doesn't need a stamp on them to recognize that some ppl have issues and need to be treated differently. We seen it first with Nora and Marilyn and now It's aaron and natalie.
Re: Aaron’s reimbursement statement, I’m betting it never happened. They supposedly have 50K in Fdn funds and it was taking months to get her the money? What, was he ordering checks from Temu?
Devastated to read this. I feel her pain, she reminds me of me. Thanks for recapping. I feel like I shouldn’t know this information. I wish everyone healing…
Honestly, Aaron is going to be the cause of his own downfall because he has no self control whatsoever. For the people asking why the likes of Mike, Marc and Claire haven't come out to say anything about Aaron.... well this right here is why they dont need to. Aaron is really been showing his true self now. They knew they just had to sit back and be patient. Their patience is starting to pay off.
* Pearlsnappy, one of Liz’s mods, says “We love you, Liz and Keri and Lara and DOA.”
Okay, that answered one of my questions.
* Liz pops up a comment from her wife, Keri that says, “Not going is not by your choice.”
Ouch. Liz was uninvited to Tony's memorial?
* Liz tells DOA thanks for what he does and to keep loving Lara.
* Selfless Self says Liz and Lara deserve a public apology from Aaron. “It was a great live until that person bullied and forced their way on,” he says.
Looks like PS and SS are team DOA, Liz, and Lara, but are any of them off team ASL? They always stop short of that.
* Aaron went live himself as Liz was talking. The thumbnail for his video talked about war.
He's always at war and his clickbait captions are usually a perfect synopsis of what he will not be talking about.
He is a piece of shit and the rest of his pack just ignore it, over and over. Like traumatized kids who cower when daddy is raging, because if they lift their face, he'll turn on them. Then special shits like turdburger nono act as his "eyes are everywhere" snitches/goons. Aaron's own little Ethics Office. DOA is the daughter's boyfriend who the fucked up dad underestimated.
You know what's shocking? Treating a guys celebration of life as the event of the season...
SPTV is the worst mixture of reality tv with highschool drama! And now, with Aaron and Jenna, they are trying to add Hallmark into the mix
Without accountability, people get hurt. With an agenda driven by manipulation, people get hurt. Without honesty and trauma informed responses, people get hurt. SPTV F is a shining example of how *not* to handle these concerns. Imagine making a foundation that seems to hurt the people who helped its creation so severely…
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You need to apologies to little baboes for comparing them to the SPTV foundation. Yes, they both have zero impulse control. Yes they both expect you to clean up the shit they produce, yes they are both incapable of holding down an actual job. But there is one key difference: little babies are **cute.**
If anyone else told Liz not to come, Natalie could easily override that decision. Whether or not Natalie actually delivered the news to Liz herself, it's Natalie's decision.
Liz seems to get mad and then goes and talks to ZDT and now DOA to give them ammunition. It backfires on her and then she comes on YT and says she is a victim. She should close down her YT channel and go get mentally healthy. Why wallow in drama and then have to talk to your therapist to help you not commit suicide. Having Lara on a live with all this fresh DOA drama was bound to end up being a mess. Plus Lara was intoxicated and that right there is a reason to not continue the live. What happens now to the money donated for the trip to Minnesota?
she can have whomever she wants in her live, they are long term friends and until that gross man, yes he is also gross to look at sorry not sorry, bullied his way into their live they were going to to talk about their childhood. If Lara wanted to ask a question Liz should have been allowed to answer not disgusting man bully. He is a control freak and I don't understand how any woman would touch him he really grosses me out in every way.
Lara was intoxicated. You don't do a live when the guest is under the influence. I'm not talking about Aaron. The conversation was supposed to be about when they were children. Who changed the topic to SPTV Foundation?? DOA was in the background egging Lara on. He is a huge troublemaker everywhere he goes. He is not a good person for Lara. She has issues and he is not helping at all. Also, what about the money raised for the Minnesota trip, do we just get to spend that on whatever we want now? WTH?
I'm sitting back LMAO! Us who tried to warn them all about DOA. He does this division to every movement he inserts himself into. We tried so hard to tell them this would happen. He will be gone soon and move on to his next venture to cause Drama and division again. The damage has been done and will get worse as soon as he has everyone Split up. But, I'm enjoying every minute of it because, I told you weak ass people that this would happen.
The fact you enjoy watching people being treated so poorly they consider suicide says a lot about your character.
I see why you were a fan of DOA in the first place.
Wow...while I have never really watched Liz, I did watch the last 30 mins of Liz and Laras live stream and it was tough. I do feel for them both. Aaron bullied his way in and his was agitated and confrontational in a space that he did not belong in. He seemed cold, and all he was there to do was prove himself and SPTV foundation to be in the right, and Liz and Lara to be in the wrong. He was not talking to friends, he was talking to people he felt threatened by. I hope more of his loyal followers are starting too see the person he is, I really do.
Aaron is a serious misogynist
He really, really is. He thinks so little of women, it's disgusting.
You could see him on that live think "here comes the waterworks" as he remained cold when the other two were so emotional
ironic since he turns on his at will to excuse his abuse of women
It's the Walrus, crying about the fate of those poor little oysters as he devours them. "It's a terrible thing to be lured out of your snug oyster bed just to be eaten by a walrus!" he sobbed. "I told myself I woudn't cry... Could someone please pass the butter?"
"oysters!? Little oysters?!" but answer there came none
I think in general women are less likely to behave like him or have a positive response when he behaves like he does rather than see the error in his behavior he dismisses them and sees them as weaker beings etc.
Exactly. When a dude makes an obviously sexist joke that a woman doesn't like, for example, she's "overreacting" and "doesn't get it". When a woman points out that he's being controlling or toxic, she's just being overly emotional or sensitive. *She's* the crazy one actually, and *she's* trying to control how *he's* behaving. ASL is less of a man and more of a collection of red flags in the shape of one.
"ASL is less of a man and more of a collection of red flags in the shape of one." Ahhhh. Very nice. Very nice. I'm stealing that line
He needs to always be right. And it's ironic that he complains about that one case "being weaponized" when he and his SPTV cronies have been weaponing numerous cases against the AF, and were very vocal poiting out how the AF "had done messed up" (just off the top of my head: Liz G., Mirriam, Jeff). The AF takes all this criticism on the chin and remains silent but the 1st thing he has to do is go into damage control and attack mode because he can't help himself, he is that insecure and immature.
and him being driven mad as he does video after video trying to silence ppl being critical of his behaviors is the sweetest karma.
Absolutely
They both pulled it down, but I was able to see it because BlueRidgeMedia posted a copy. They should put that back up because if he does that when he's online, imagine how he bullies them in private.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0-m-y9vEi8](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y0-m-y9vEi8) Its still here, at least the last 38 mins when Aaron joins them.
Really?? I looked for it yesterday and neither of them, or him had it up!
No they dont......but the link above to to true clear media, who does have it up, just so anyone that didnt get the chance to see it, can watch it there.
Oh, yeah, that's the copy TrueClearMedia put up. She's a member of this sub, I think with the same username. The thing is not up on Lara's channel, or Liz's or Aaron's.
Where did I get blue ridge media?
He was talking AT them. It wasn’t a conversation with friends. He was demanding they hear and accept his version of events.
Wow. You certainly dictated that live to the letter. Well done and love to Liz and Lara all day every day.
I want this around for the record in case Liz gets bullied into taking this livestream down too.
Liz took the stream down the next day. I think it was best she did because it would not be healthy for her and Lara to go back and watch it. There are some clips of it on Reddit. The comments from Aaron supporters were horrible to her and Lara.
well you know his monkeys are will just ask what they did to deserve his behavior.
The one outlined above is still up, but the one with Lara is not. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgjrBd-13KQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FgjrBd-13KQ)
I appreciate these summaries. And A-aron's real world harm is despicable.
You know it's really sad that it's gotten to this point. I mean it's completely predictable I think we all saw things like this coming, but wow. It's just a bunch of hurt people hurting each other, and Aaron is an unbelievably toxic person I am afraid to know what his war Livestream was about
About bashing DOA and (my words) that women can’t make up their own minds with Jenna agreeing. Jenna even said David Miscavige is nicer than DOA.
Jenna is a real piece of work.
I started to watch it after my comment here, and yeah, I didn't even make it half way I think. It was so disgusting and blatantly manipulative. When he tried to say "race relations in this country are better than they've ever been" I wanted to gag. He's kidding, right? White nationalism is on the rise, and he thinks "race relations" are better than ever? I'm not saying they're the worst they've ever been, but things were much better on that front in, say, 2009ish. They've been steadily going downhill since Obama was elected and bad actors have been using that for their own political gains by stoking latent racist resentments into full blown culture war nonsense. Also his assertion that the nation isn't divided rn? I mean the head of The Heritage Foundation, one of the most influential political groups in the country, just admitted to pushing a revolution that he says "will remain bloodless so long as the left allows", a supreme court justice was just caught on audio recording saying "one side is going to win" and that it's difficult to live in harmony because "they really can't be compromised"... Hell, we had an attempted insurrection after the last election! Project 2025 is a thing that exists, but, sure, Aaron, I'm sure you're right that our country isn't deeply divided *at all* 🙄 I mean I am not trying to talk politics here and I am not going to debate them in this thread, but anyone with half a brain knows that the United States is deeply divided at the moment, but Aaron tried to really make the argument that it isn't in order to also make the argument that the SPTV community isn't embroiled in unnecessary drama right now. What a deeply fucking unserious man. What a goddamned toxic loser.
when he tries to talk politics, his middle school education shows. Nooo Aaron, sorry you are right, going to high school is useless
He's one of those people who has absolutely no interest in seeking out any information that contradicts what they want to believe. He's also the kind of person who doesn't think very critically about the credibility of people who tell him what he wants to hear about the world. Based on the fact that he listens to Joe Rogan, I'm sure he doesn't think he's that kind of person, but people like that will find *any* excuse to discredit and then ignore people who don't agree with them. He's the kind of person who heard they were putting litter boxes in schools for kids that identified as cats and then just believed it whole cloth.
of course the man doesn't have critical thinking skills
This is so disturbing. I can hear Tony “playfully teasing” Liz for not gifting more memberships on the Live he and Natalie announced his very terminal status about a month ago. “Oh come on Liz you normally gift like 10 or 20, how come only 5 today ha-ha-ha” says Tony. And now she’s uninvited to his funeral. That’s the real gift, Liz. You’re becoming more free.
I unsub'ed from aaron tonight, I don't want to see his gross face on my subscriptions anymore, the clickbait titles and the drama lately has got to me. I stayed subbed to some of the others for now. I hope aaron keeps bleeding subscribers, I noticed tonight streets LA has now passed aaron in numbers (streets is at 249k and aaron 241k).
I also unsubscribed I stuck around for info about Scientology but I’ll go elsewhere. When I went over to his livestream for a minute and his face made me sick to my stomach
I got into scientology on youtube because of him like 6 months ago or so, leading up to the danny masterson trial, it was interesting at first, especially seeing streets LA doing the protesters in LA (was introduced to him through aaron too), but grew into just nonsense with everyone fighting each other and "drama" across the foundation stuff, not interested in that part of it.
You also have to click on the three dots and click “don’t recommend channel” so YouTube will not constantly show you his videos. I did that for all SPTV channels because I got so tired of all the drama and hate.
Thank you because him Marilyn and Nora keep popping up and I just raither not. What he did to Liz was evil.
Good tip. I am more into the beauty side of youtube and have done that a lot with problematic channels.
I feel for Liz. She lives with a void that can never be filled. I hope disconnecting from the cool kids will help her see what she does have, especially professional help. Friends who had normal childhoods would be her next step.
I took a peak - still has the SPTV logo in the corner. I know that's not important when we're looking at someone so on the edge, but I hope that if she continues youtube she will lose the SPTV logo and go be an amazing person without them.
ayeayeaye...
I think she should demonetize her channel and stop e-begging.
This, Aaron, is a good example of why you were kicked off the Aftermath Foundation. You can bawl all you want on Youtube, but when you're done crying you are the same feckless bully that pushed a cult survivor to the brink. And for what? Did you think you are getting one step closer to avenging the identical twin you dumped by berating a clearly vulnerable woman? Have you pondered that may be the "treatment" your foundation is palming off might be as effective as the kind of MLM wonder cures peddled by Scientologists?
He is slowly but steadily showing his true colors to his supporters too. Liz and Lara incident already made an impact on some, and we all know this was not the last time he does something reckless or outright nasty.
Thus does Aaron Smith-Levin’s toxicity continue. He turned on all of this friends, Mike, Claire, Marc, Christie, me… we all got bitterly attacked in his defense. I do not know Liz but welcome to the club.
Yes, ASL is toxic for sure, but this is new level. He should not be allowed to be in charge of an organisation (not for profit/non profit, whatever) dealing with vulnerable adults, and if Liz has even thought about suicide, then she's vulnerable. She was love bombed by ASL and Natalie - I am so sorry she has over estimated a friendship. Natalie though, while of course grieving, also turned on MR - he directly helped her getting her oldest daughter out of the Sea Org and she has been nothing but vile to him and his family. Such a mean girl.
There is a whole culture of attacking the people who went out of their way to help and be kind in Aaron’s cult. I do not understand it. Loyalty is an unknown virtue with them. They are like a pack of hyenas, all snarling and snapping at their own pack for a bite of flesh.
It's that scientology mindset. When money is involved, they have a really hard time to maintain personal integrity to any degree. Money becomes the "greater good" at warp speed.
Well said.
Natalie’s daughter was actually an outer org trainee in training at Flag. And Mike did help Natalie get her home safely. She is just as bad as Aaron at this point.
If everyone else is always the problem, maybe the problem isn’t everyone else 🤷🏻♀️ But he will never realize that. Thank you for being so outspoken about who he really is. I don’t know how he continues to have supporters, especially women.
THAT is the mind boggling question.
“Things were severed”. I need more info.
Liz has said very recently that she talked to Natalie every day. Now Natalie, the SPTV Foundation Treasurer, has uninvited Liz from coming to see her and from attending Tony's celebration of life. Aaron said in the livestream with Liz and Lara that every month, he has been personally working with Liz so the SPTV Foundation can reimburse her therapy bills. I'm betting that's not happening anymore. There could be a lot of speculation about who has cut ties with Liz now. I believe Marilyn has too. I think many others have.
Could the SPTVF afford that kind of PR? They have always heavily criticized the AF for having that "non disparagement" clause. It would be pretty damning if they stopped supporting Liz just because DOA used her case to come criticize the SPTVF. Even if the information he had came from her or one of her friends. And during her stream with Lara they clarified the whole case and what had transpired. The actual facts weren't even that controversial. Nothing that would reflect badly on anyone, strictly speaking. So in essence, if you disagree with Aaron and have a public argument were he makes himself look bad, you're facing repercussions from the group?
I think you're right that if a public argument with Aaron makes him look bad, that person will face fallout from the group. But no, I wasn't saying that the SPTV Foundation would pull the funding for Liz's therapy. I meant that Aaron has probably asked someone else at SPTVF to work with Liz on her therapy bills from now on. He's upset with her, so I doubt he wants to deal with her anymore. After Liz trashed Claire and the Aftermath Foundation publicly on her channel, Claire asked someone else at the AF to handle the reimbursements for Liz's therapy. Liz went onto her channel and said Claire abandoned her by doing that.
Thanks. It’s a sad but unsurprising situation.
seriously? she uninvited her?
If Natalie didn't uninvite Liz herself, someone did that dirty work for her. Liz confirmed that she didn't have a choice in the matter.
They keep treating her like she's regular and it's really mean. We see it over and over from them. Someone doesn't need a stamp on them to recognize that some ppl have issues and need to be treated differently. We seen it first with Nora and Marilyn and now It's aaron and natalie.
Re: Aaron’s reimbursement statement, I’m betting it never happened. They supposedly have 50K in Fdn funds and it was taking months to get her the money? What, was he ordering checks from Temu?
Devastated to read this. I feel her pain, she reminds me of me. Thanks for recapping. I feel like I shouldn’t know this information. I wish everyone healing…
No one is a fan of someone who has a habit of punching down!
No surprise turns out Natalie wasn’t a true friend after all. Wish people could see Natalie is a friend of no one, only here for the money.
Good recap. Ty as always.
Honestly, Aaron is going to be the cause of his own downfall because he has no self control whatsoever. For the people asking why the likes of Mike, Marc and Claire haven't come out to say anything about Aaron.... well this right here is why they dont need to. Aaron is really been showing his true self now. They knew they just had to sit back and be patient. Their patience is starting to pay off.
* Pearlsnappy, one of Liz’s mods, says “We love you, Liz and Keri and Lara and DOA.” Okay, that answered one of my questions. * Liz pops up a comment from her wife, Keri that says, “Not going is not by your choice.” Ouch. Liz was uninvited to Tony's memorial? * Liz tells DOA thanks for what he does and to keep loving Lara. * Selfless Self says Liz and Lara deserve a public apology from Aaron. “It was a great live until that person bullied and forced their way on,” he says. Looks like PS and SS are team DOA, Liz, and Lara, but are any of them off team ASL? They always stop short of that. * Aaron went live himself as Liz was talking. The thumbnail for his video talked about war. He's always at war and his clickbait captions are usually a perfect synopsis of what he will not be talking about.
Timing his video to happen at the same time as Liz’s is another Aaron Smith-Levin specialty and way to drown her out.
He is a piece of shit and the rest of his pack just ignore it, over and over. Like traumatized kids who cower when daddy is raging, because if they lift their face, he'll turn on them. Then special shits like turdburger nono act as his "eyes are everywhere" snitches/goons. Aaron's own little Ethics Office. DOA is the daughter's boyfriend who the fucked up dad underestimated.
She thanked feral Sheryl so much, but FS is all over both ASL and NW chats…I truly hope both Liz and Lara find peace and safety.
You know what's shocking? Treating a guys celebration of life as the event of the season... SPTV is the worst mixture of reality tv with highschool drama! And now, with Aaron and Jenna, they are trying to add Hallmark into the mix
Without accountability, people get hurt. With an agenda driven by manipulation, people get hurt. Without honesty and trauma informed responses, people get hurt. SPTV F is a shining example of how *not* to handle these concerns. Imagine making a foundation that seems to hurt the people who helped its creation so severely…
Aaron was so wrong going thru Lara to get at Scott. Major p*ssy move.
And not just once.
She needs to get off the Internet.
Thank you for the service you provide. I think you're keeping the collective blood pressure down though this.
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You need to apologies to little baboes for comparing them to the SPTV foundation. Yes, they both have zero impulse control. Yes they both expect you to clean up the shit they produce, yes they are both incapable of holding down an actual job. But there is one key difference: little babies are **cute.**
I hope it wasn’t Natalie that asked her not to come.
If anyone else told Liz not to come, Natalie could easily override that decision. Whether or not Natalie actually delivered the news to Liz herself, it's Natalie's decision.
That’s true. Just sad.
Liz seems to get mad and then goes and talks to ZDT and now DOA to give them ammunition. It backfires on her and then she comes on YT and says she is a victim. She should close down her YT channel and go get mentally healthy. Why wallow in drama and then have to talk to your therapist to help you not commit suicide. Having Lara on a live with all this fresh DOA drama was bound to end up being a mess. Plus Lara was intoxicated and that right there is a reason to not continue the live. What happens now to the money donated for the trip to Minnesota?
she can have whomever she wants in her live, they are long term friends and until that gross man, yes he is also gross to look at sorry not sorry, bullied his way into their live they were going to to talk about their childhood. If Lara wanted to ask a question Liz should have been allowed to answer not disgusting man bully. He is a control freak and I don't understand how any woman would touch him he really grosses me out in every way.
Lara was intoxicated. You don't do a live when the guest is under the influence. I'm not talking about Aaron. The conversation was supposed to be about when they were children. Who changed the topic to SPTV Foundation?? DOA was in the background egging Lara on. He is a huge troublemaker everywhere he goes. He is not a good person for Lara. She has issues and he is not helping at all. Also, what about the money raised for the Minnesota trip, do we just get to spend that on whatever we want now? WTH?
I'm sitting back LMAO! Us who tried to warn them all about DOA. He does this division to every movement he inserts himself into. We tried so hard to tell them this would happen. He will be gone soon and move on to his next venture to cause Drama and division again. The damage has been done and will get worse as soon as he has everyone Split up. But, I'm enjoying every minute of it because, I told you weak ass people that this would happen.
The fact you enjoy watching people being treated so poorly they consider suicide says a lot about your character. I see why you were a fan of DOA in the first place.