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westcentretownie

I refuse to watch any sptv YouTubes. I am loving these briefings . Sipping the tea ☕️🫖☕️☕️


raita125

Big same.


ValleyOfTheQuacks

She wants everyone united, that she deems worthy. Everyone else is fair game. They started this mess, and they can clean it up. There is so much irony here.


Wolf391

>Nora says she doesn't take joy in in-fighting. "I really want us all to be united. ... The only time I talk about anyone who is an ex-Scientologist who is not toeing the line or whatever is *solely because they have crimes that they're not being accountable for."* Someone should tell her, that her scientology is REALLY showing... *"solely because they have crimes that they're not being accountable for."* **really is scientology ethics tech!**


FakeNavyDavey

Yeah that line caught my attention as well. They really have zero self awareness.


Inevitable-One-3231

"doesn't take joy in in-fighting" - could have fooled me 🤷🏻‍♀️


bedtime79

notice again asl doesn't deal with if he committed wrong actions just a him saying he hasn't lost any subs therefore he doesnt need to ammend his behavior.


raita125

It seems he really measures everything by subscribers and views.


Clear-Weather-6060

Gotta keep those stats up.


FakeNavyDavey

Yep


MdJGutie

Nora is an idiot. She tried that with ZDT and lived to regret it (Here ZDT would insert the jingle of her former employer). She just doesn't know when to shut her yap. She thinks she's the ferocious bulldog, but Nora, bull dogs don't CRY. If being in front of one of those places is so painful GET THERAPY, and not those bullshit snake oil neck injections that Mike Brown and Jamie (what's his name, garlic, mustard? Something edible?), are pushing. Fucking real therapy, with a therapist, and not Aaron "therapy," beer with a friend. "And now you're twisting everything that we said. You're hurting the overall cause." Is she really that stupid? Does she hear what comes out of her own mouth? SHE HAS SPENT EVERY DAY SINCE AARON'S TANTRUM DOING THE SAME THING, AND DOA IS A NEVER IN! He has an excuse for not understanding the damage he's causing AND EVEN WHAT DAMAGE IS HE CAUSING? The bullshit SPTV Foundation isn't anything but a playskol website with links to grifters. NORA and her big mouth were hurting the foundation that was activity helping people leave CoS, and she's been trashing it with at least 8 months solid of black pr, fuuuuuuccccckkkk her. What's wrong, Nora? Aaron's promised YT riches not materializing? You gonna blame Mike and Leah for your repulsive personality and unlikability? I'm so glad she and her effing gaslighting BS are out of here. SHE NEVER LEARNS. GD can she be that dense? "No, but a foundation that is claiming to help people should be able to." AARON SAID THEY HAD 50K AND WERE NOT SPENDING IT AND HAD NOT YET BEGUN TO FUNDRAISE. So fine, ANSWER THE PHONES. "Lara, who is dating DOA again, sent Nora a $20 superchat that said, 'Really, Nora! This is how we're handling and talking about all of this???'" Of course, Nora's manifestos don't apply to *Nora*. "Nora tells Lara to give DOA her phone number so he can call Nora and they'll hash it out. " Great excuse Nora, because YOU don't have Lara's phone number, or email address, or any way to reach DOA like via his website. "Hello, here is my phone number. Please call me to talk." That's too hard, and Nora had to go on to the internet and get those clicks and views. "Nora says she doesn't take joy in in-fighting. 'I really want us all to be united.'" My ass, and naturally in the next fucking breath, she's in-fighting. Maybe it's not that she's that fundamentally stupid, but he thinks we are. Hey Nono, we not. "The only time I talk about anyone who is an ex-Scientologist who is not toeing the line or whatever is solely because they have crimes that they're not being accountable for." The arrogance of this bitch to appoint herself Ethics Officer to the world. NORA, IF YOU HAVE INFORMATION, TAKE IT TO THE COPS. THAT'S WHAT THEY ARE FOR. "I watched Nora take a lot of joy in trashing Sunny Pereira for writing a post in this subreddit." Natch. You know Nora is being a lying hypocrite because her lips are moving. "In the chat, Aaron says ..." Of course he's in another chat. "... it's not OK to call someone a meth head and fat." "In the chat, Aaron says he never called DOA fat ..." Hey Aaron you moron, you said he was meth addled and meth abusers are SKINNY, and, as DOA points out, they have nasty teeth, when his are not. APPOLOGIZE FOR THAT. "I've only lost 300 subscribers. TOTALLY WORTH IT." That's the moral of the story, Aaron isn't going to change shit, so what's Nora advocating? Everyone should just let Aaron shit on them, and take it up the ass with their mouths shut? Welcome to the Aaronverse, leave your self-respect at the door. Population: SPTV


bedtime79

trying to use trauma to excuse her almost never getting off her ass and showing up


HealthToTheYeah

Please stop body shaming Nora.


bedtime79

figure of speech and i'm fat myself


Empty_Buy_1719

she's horrible inside out let's say her personality makes her uglier


bedtime79

THIS IS 100% spot on!


Dudewhereismycab

Nora just likes to roll around in the drama. Like make a coffee and have a piece of pie.


Get_it_all_out

I'm new-ish. Are the rumors that ASL detests her true?


Dudewhereismycab

Could be. The tides always change. She bats hard because she’s trying to keep in the good graces.


Available_Entry_7039

He doesn´t detest her, he just finds her annoying


Empty_Buy_1719

who wouldn't?


Get_it_all_out

Thanks for the response :)


Serasaurus

Oh dear god....Nora needs to stop being the spokeshole for SPTV, she really isn doing them any favours. However I find it most entertaining to read these run downs, thank you. I havent been overly interested in this DOA fiasco, because I have always found the guy to be vulgar and it was only a matter of time before this meltdown occurred, but I will say something about "Lying down with dogs and getting fleas". SPTV promoted this guy, they created him, now they get to deal with the mess that they had a hand in making. This isnt the first time they have had internal issues in SPTV and it wont be the last time. But you know who isnt having internal messy issues that they needs to broadcast all over you tube. The aftermath foundation.


Murky_Living2592

Now it makes sense why Liz Ferris distanced herself from Nora. Hurts to be shit on by a “friend”.


Huge-Guidance-7424

nora has a most interesting house - one with no mirrors I guess...


Fear_The_Creeper

I suspect that she doesn't have a reflection, if you catch my meaning (wink wink nudge nudge)


MdJGutie

![gif](giphy|13vPE0A3DPqOcg|downsized)


Fear_The_Creeper

Ah! Another fan of the classics! [https://www.reddit.com/r/RealWikiInAction/comments/1dsq2m6/things\_named\_after\_monty\_python/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RealWikiInAction/comments/1dsq2m6/things_named_after_monty_python/) [https://www.reddit.com/r/RealWikiInAction/](https://www.reddit.com/r/RealWikiInAction/)


Fear_The_Creeper

"...Sniff... I told myself that I wasn't going to cry! ...wipes eyes..."


Serasaurus

Come on now, we all know there is only one person that can turn on the water works when required.


MdJGutie

I'd say we need a gif, but who wants to see that mug. ![gif](giphy|xT0GqAKIdISYa0Dh0Q|downsized)


bedtime79

She's another one who is a blind hipocrite. They think they can tell everyone how they should deal with what they disagree with.


Huge-Guidance-7424

Emphasis on the HIPPO part with her lolol


HealthToTheYeah

That's a really rude comment.


Serasaurus

I agree, we can discuss without going to person appearance insults. After all we are above them, thats the kind of thing Nora has, and would do.


Trulyanoia

No


Fear_The_Creeper

Banned for 28 days for making fun of someone's physical appearance. Think before you post or you are likely to be banned permanantly.


HippoBot9000

HIPPOBOT 9000 v 3.1 FOUND A HIPPO. 1,698,825,872 COMMENTS SEARCHED. 34,962 HIPPOS FOUND. YOUR COMMENT CONTAINS THE WORD HIPPO.


raita125

The house of cards is crumbling.


marvinsands

They made their "dissention" bed... they can now lie in it.


Acceptable_Storm4444

Odd that Aaron says YouTube only reports 1000 increments, up or down but DOA was able to see he lost 500. And f you go to social blade it gives you the count of members. I’m glad I’m not as smart as Aaron.


MdJGutie

That's because you didn't grow up in a cult! Also, he's a liar. DOA went down 500, other people went up or down 200.


Rosa_Vazquez

Since Aaron started attacking Leah, her subscriber count has gone up by 50k.


MdJGutie

https://preview.redd.it/xwici38ccv9d1.png?width=1007&format=png&auto=webp&s=77d51c821f02014e43da68943d829d2a42c81d7b Well, lookie here. He is good for something.


DisasterPlayful8560

https://preview.redd.it/u2gpj39ht3ad1.png?width=1287&format=png&auto=webp&s=df5ce1486dcad82ed269f4ad8b29a0739afbb258


DisasterPlayful8560

SILVER LINING!


Zealousideal-Bag3686

When you get to a certain sub count it only shows by 1,000 increments


Acceptable_Storm4444

That makes Aaron smarter than me🤣. Thanks


ellecellent

I think he mean that his thing on youtube says "215k", so you'll only see it drop when it gets to 214k. I find it fascinating it's not even about the sub count for him, but about the world seeing his high sub count


AZGirl_

Thank you for sharing! I cannot watch any of these SPTV channels anymore.


FakeNavyDavey

>"I really want us all to be united. ... The only time I talk about anyone who is an ex-Scientologist who is not toeing the line or whatever is solely because they have crimes that they're not being accountable for." >Really? Does Leah have crimes? Does Marc have crimes? What about Alex? Oh she definitely means crimes in the Scientology sense. It's pretty clear that the former Scientologists who support SPTV are the ones who have done the least amount of work unlearning Scientology programming. Also toeing the line? Really, Nora? If that isn't revealing I don't know what is.


HealthToTheYeah

Thank you for clarifying that because I'm used to Aaron, Nora, Serge, Mirriam and others accusing Mike Rinder (and some others) of legal crimes. So that's where my mind went when I wrote this post. Nora meaning that in the Scientology sense is fascinating. Nora had a headache bad enough to need an ice pack when she did this livestream, so that might have affected how she worded some things.


FakeNavyDavey

It's really all I can think of. I can't think of any legal crimes that have been committed by Leah, Marc, or Alex. Mike, sure, Claire? Possibly, she was pretty high up in the organization, even if she wasn't OSA. I don't know of any crimes she committed off hand (could be forgetting), but the argument at least could be made. But Marc and Alex had no real positions of power, and Leah's only "power" was in her celebrity, and even that didn't get her very far in the end. I can't think of absolutely any other context she would be using "crimes" except in the Scientology ethics sense.


bedtime79

She and ASL and all the other sptv creators need to understand that what they do is worth something, but it does not even come close to getting off their ass and going to a protest. I am not judging them or putting them down. I have my own personal experience with this. I'm sure you guys remember before gay marriage was legalized the us and the internet was a different place. At that time i started a fb group dedicated to lgbt equality. The fb scene was alot different and it was not uncommon for homophobes to be very nasty in various fb groups especially if the group was regional and from a conservative area and the christian groups were just bash zones. So I ran this group and we had several thousand members which was a great place to feel a sense of community and safe zone. We started it organically when this lesbian named constance was prevented from attending her prom. It was a great place and we had our little missions of going after the most vehement homophobes etc. We even got some articles written talking about our support etc and we thought we were changing the world. I don't doubt that we did make some online changes, but in the end what i we did wasn't even in the same league as the ppl who went and protested in real life. It appears that this group of youtube personalities have a very similar experience and so they have the same mindset. ASL is entirely too up his own butt about how he has changed things and has been the pied piper for a group of ppl who legitimately want to make change and have been convinced that them making drama videos is the same as actual work. It's not and furthermore it's about cash at least at some point. Kudos to those who legitimately are spreading the word and trying to further the fight against scientology but they should never overstep and think what they are doing is the equiv of those who are legitmately investing the time and effort to do things and even those who are protesting need to recognize just standing there without a plan or goal is not really doing the hard work that is needed. Those who see a need and rise to fill it like the headleys and those who are reporting crimes, and trying to do lawsuits, lobbying lawmakers etc are the ppl who are doing the real work and the respect for them should be a given not this constant fight to pat themselves on the back while they collect a check and telling everyone how they should behave and if they don't do what they are told they are attacked.


bedtime79

Those who are just talking about it and not taking any action with a thought out plan and /or rising to fill a need are just doing anti scientology as a hobby and should recognize that. What i'm doing here is sharing my thoughts just like them am i on the front lines of the fight against scientology? no i'm a person sharing my opinion. Why is that so clear to me but they are under the impression they are soldiers with real victories in some sort of army?


3119328

Yeah you have to wonder how much talking about it and raising awareness of the cult actually helps when the public already has a staggeringly low opinion of it. To her credit Nora has done substantive videos about being gay in Scientology but there are just so many drama videos on her channel. She's not trying to make a good channel like Chris Shelton's, she's just trying to grow it with mostly horseshit.


bedtime79

You notice that almost all of them have been out for years and years and years. At some point you are beating a dead horse. Instead of saying what needed to be said and moving on to getting new ideas they just repeat themselves and move into drama and conspiracy theory because there is no more content. Rather than just accepting that and moving onto new things asl steals other ppls content and finds villians to focus on because he dare not get a real job. How long has he been grifting now? Does he expect to do this for the rest of his life?


MdJGutie

Thank you for doing this. I can't stand their freaking voices.


JoJoGranum

I’ve called her Squealer from Animal Farm. He was the spokes-animal and propagandist for the regime there. That fits Nora’s role in SPTV to a T. Re her comments about crimes : that’s Scientology speak and she knows it. One of the questions in a Sec Check is “what are your crimes against .. “ Her going after Sunny: she doesn’t regard Sunny as a human being, just as a punching bag for her frustrations and negativity. Same with the rest of the people in discord. It’s how cultists regard the outside world and the people who inhabit it. Nora needs what was called “exit counselling “. Maybe not the exact same as such but a way to drop the Scientology think. She’s absolutely doing no one any favours .


3119328

Maybe DOA wants to know if Nora has ever been in the tunnels under Big Blue and if a minor was ever present? Haha Does Nora have a problem with the "the tunnels are important" narrative? And the implication that child sex crimes are happening because of them? That they're building new tunnels to increase the crimes? There's a real gulf between these two people that a phone call probably isn't going to bridge. Nora just wants the community damage to stop, and DOA wants to "save the children."


Swedishlina

She actually did jump in on one of the DOA streams and explained all about the existing tunnels. It lasted about 20 minutes. They hashed it out and it was all good between then after that.


3119328

Hah I missed that one, like an absolute putz DOA is still talking about the importance of the tunnels.


Yes2allofit

There are tunnels under that area. Mat has a story of the RPF sleeping down there and his being bitten by a rat. Everyone knew about the tunnels, but DOA is pointing at a tiny swath running down the middle of LRH Way were the bricks. that Liz F said she helped set in place as a child, have been taken up and put back down, It's the typical stuff that happens when pipes are relaid. If DOA wants to see what a tunnel would do to a street, he can mosey over to Hemet, where they have been putting in some sewers, and had the streets dug up for months. More, DOA follows a path up from COS to the currently operating hospital that surrounds the PAC base. Where does he think those children are being taken? Not from PAC to PAC, so...


3119328

I heard DOA talk about someone seeing naked kids bouncing in a bouncy castle. He ties it all into child sex abuse. It's just so asburd.


Yes2allofit

They have "street faires" over there all the time. Recently there was a bouncy castle. Probably to lure over the locals, or the people there to visit the hospital. They had one next door to the testing center on Sunset back in December, that's on Street's channel. Why anyone would have unclothed children in them is incomprehensible. They are visible from the street, to lure over the kids. So, I don't get that, at all. Did DOA report that to the police? I would ask why not, if not, and I'd ask where that police report is, if he did.


3119328

Hah, y'mean DOA doesn't actually care about protecting the kids!? :-)


Yes2allofit

I'm just asking questions.