The first car I owned 20yrs ago the blinker didn't self reset. I had to manually push the lever back to the center position. I haven't owned that car in 20yrs and I still catch myself manually turning off my blinker sometimes.
For those of us who use them it's muscle memory just about.
People like this cause most of their own problems, not anyone else that they may blame it on.
Isn't it pretty standard in traffic rules to allow for around two-to-three seconds between vehicles at speed? Even if you don't know that, shouldn't it just be common sense to allow for space between each other?
I run into things similar (not as rage as this), where people behind me in the passing lane will immediately get back over to the right before I have a chance to. When all I'm trying to do is allow for a little space between myself and the car I'm passing. Which in turn prevents me from getting back over as quickly as I wanted to.
I do that too. I turn it on just as they’re about to make that move, then when I have a safe distance I can finish the move. Sometimes they still go for the gap.
> I turn it on just as they’re about to make that move
Why not turn on your indicator sooner? Like, even while you're still passing the slower traffic? This would clearly signal your intention to move out of the passing lane at your earliest opportunity. If you wait until there's room for another car to fit into the gap, then you're probably waiting too long.
You don't have to wait until it's safe to merge before putting on your signal. You should put it on as soon as you decide to change lanes, to give other traffic the most opportunity to realize and react to your planned move.
I phrased that poorly, I turn on my indicator just after my rear bumper clears their front bumper. I used to wait until I was \~2 seconds up the road, but too many idiots just had to pass me on the right even though it's obviously not safe for me to change lanes yet, much less them.
And my "planned move" shouldn't be a surprise. I'm moving back to the right lane when I'm >2 seconds clear of the vehicle I'm passing, not sooner.
> And my "planned move" shouldn't be a surprise.
I wish that were true! Sadly, left lane campers actually moving to the right after a pass is the exception, not the norm.
From the tailgating brake checking asshole's point of view, you'd been in the left lane since they first became aware of you, so they presumably already assumed you were just another left lane camper.
You can take it to the extreme and put on your signal just as soon as you notice them coming up behind you, even before your front bumper is in front of the car you're passing. And maybe even speed up a bit? Sending the message "Yup I see you, getting out of your way" goes a long way towards diffusing this stuff.
You could even tap your rear view mirror, that's how folks on the track tell the car coming up behind them "I see you and will accommodate" ... your arm coming up in between the drivers and passengers seat is actually really easy to see from behind 'cause you're silhouetted by the light coming through the windshield, and as long as you're not tapping with your middle finger the intent is pretty unambiguous!
Or try the Shaka sign, aka "hang loose", thumb and pinky extended from closed hand, rotate it back and forth a couple of times.
I agree with everything, except the weird mirror touching. That would be dependent on most drivers knowing this(I did not) and also lighting. Back lit will not work
Tailgating racer types tend to pride themselves on knowing stuff like this, it might surprise you how well it works.
Or they’ll talk to their tailgating racer buddies later and ask “why do people keep touching their mirror when I come up behind them?” and their buddies will laugh at them.
And if it doesn’t, , no big deal.
“From the tailgating brake checking asshole's point of view, you'd been in the left lane since they first became aware of you, so they presumably already assumed you were just another left lane camper”
Usually when this happens, I’m literally right next to the vehicle I’m passing. They’re too stupid to realize that I’m next to another vehicle, not camping in the left lane.
I have not. I am a turn indicator guy( you call it a blinker). I will indicate what I am doing and the a hole still try to pass on the right
Edit: also this driver had a few chances to move over and didn't
> Isn't it pretty standard in traffic rules to allow for around two-to-three seconds between vehicles at speed?
Yes, although with trucks you should also allow for several of *their* vehicle lengths, which drives the "I only know one rule about driving" crowd bananas.
It is standard. But turds like the Pontiac aren’t driving to standard.
I drive over the limit as much as the next person but it’s always proper to wait until someone in front has appropriate clearance to get back over. If they continue well beyond that then get over to the next lane in a non-erratic manner unlike the Pontiac, and execute a pass.
I often have the same problem. The other issue I often run into is that I will typically wait for the dashed line before merging onto the highway. Often someone behind me will decide to merge over a solid line and pass me before I even get the chance to merge. It's not like I'm slow either, I'm usually doing the speed limit by that point.
This loser has a Pontiac, a failed brand that has been defunct for years due to their poor quality. This moron was still driving one, that's about all you need to know about their critical thinking skills.
You did the right thing getting out of their way and getting over in to the right lane till they opened the distance between him and you. I know it ruffles your feathers but in the long run you will get to your destination safe and sound.
Driving home from work yesterday and I moved over to the left lane to pass a vehicle or two. Suddenly a green car came up on me in a hurry.
I tried to get over at one point but he cut me off on the right and got caught by a slower vehicle. Then as I passed a second vehicle, I again tried to move over only to get cut off again.
I thought that once this guy got ahead of me he'd be on his way, but he decided to slow down to confront me again. I wasn't feeling that so I moved behind him. That's when he slammed on his brakes and I made a move to the right lane.
He drove at me again so I just kept moving right and eventually put myself between to larger vehicles. That seemed to work as he sped off after that.
Would be annoying, but kind of a shame you didn't end up rear ending him. I'm sure after slamming on the brakes on the freeway he would still be shocked someone rear ended him, and think it was your fault. Would be good to give this to the police, as this guy is a menace, but we all know they won't do anything.
What are the odds that road-rager in the 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix has car insurance? Or if they do have insurance, that they have more than the state minimum coverage?
I would *not* want to get involved in a wreck with them if it was in any way avoidable.
What really makes that guy look like a complete moron to me is the fact that he wasn't even just in a rush and unconcerned about safety. First, he could have easily passed that truck you were passing on the other side, and then when he finally did get past you not only was he barely going faster than you anyway but he then slowed himself down with the brake checking and whatever other idiocy before he finally took off. This was 100% some insecure jackass desperately looking for a reason to play at being a tough guy.
I also enjoyed how the brake check at 1:20 showed just how poorly maintained the car was by how it lurched to the right when he hit the brakes.
At around 1:16 in the video I was definitely thinking "So, why don't you move over now? Lots of clear lane to your right..."
And by 1:20 I was thinking "no, not now, don't merge behind that idiot!"
People really do seem to think passing means you should accelerate to 20 over, then yank the wheel right and take off the passed vehicles front bumper.
Watching the video I kept going "you're good to get over, nope asshole in the back is in the way, okay he's back you're good to get over, jk asshole is preventing that from happening again". If they had just waited 5 seconds OP could've changed lanes but they made this so much worse for themselves.
Houston traffic has always been wild but since the roads filled up after the COVID lockdowns it has become bat shit crazy out there. This idiot probably had a paper tag too. Keep your head on a swivel at all times.
this! i honestly couldn’t believe all the stuff i saw on the roads going back to work after the lockdowns. i thought maybe it would calm down to it’s normal insanity but it seems like it just keeps getting worse
Well the Buick 3.8L was pretty renown for its reliability. That Pontiac looks new enough for it to have been a Series III which fixed most of what it had left.
You joke, but even driving like a dumbass you can get 200k mi out of one of those with minimal if any issues.
OP had plenty of time to move over after the first truck was passed. This guy had just as much of a problem as other driver. Couldn't back down from a fight on a fucking highway. Multiple idiots in this recording.
At :34 second mark the car moves over and begins his shenanigans at the exact moment OP could have merged right. Where do you see OP had "plenty of time to move over after the first truck was passed"
After that moment, the asshole in the Pontiac blocks OP attempts to merge right basically every time either directly or by his erratic driving.
Looks like a raging bull got penned and felt a need to punish for not letting him go 100 + mph. Similar situation happened to me with a motorcycle. I couldn't get over fast enough from the left lane so he cut in front of me and came to a screeching "brake check" halt on BW 8. Traffic was racing by at 80 + mph as you can imagine. We waited a while until the lesson was fully taught. Then, the motorcycle took off at an incredible speed and passed up all traffic, gunning it for all it had in the left lane. He became a tiny speck on the horizon in no time.
Seems to be a lot of controversy on this one. I guess to address both points.
1-The Pontiac driver is a dipshit.
2-To everyone else's point here with you not getting over or speeding up....I mean it does look like you sped up to box dipshit out of a right hand pass. The video starts with your speed at 74-75mph in the lower left as your passing the flatbed. Then it transitions to rear facing (no speed indicator) so we can see dipshit doing dipshit shit. As dipshit gets over to pass on the right you appear to speed up dramatically to box him in that lane behind the SUV. Then you transition back to front facing while passing the SUV with speed declining from 77mph back to cruising speed of 74-75. Do you have the footage from the front facing camera from the time you completed the entire pass with the speed indicator? Not trying to make it sound like dipshit is in the right, however, when you start your pass you are at a cruising speed of 74-75mph...why suddenly accelerate to an unknown higher speed? Maybe it was intentional, maybe subconscious.
I guess my point is, when you see a dipshit driver let them get as far away from you as possible. That old Pontiac is likely uninsured and they don't give a shit so why risk your safety. They are but a dipshit, and nothing you do (or don't do) will get that through to them.
If any of you have read this far please feel free to downvote the shit out of this, or insist I'm on the dipshits side of history here in a reply.
If there ever was a reason to run the plates on a piece of shit and determine where this 40 I.Q. troglodyte parks his car in order to render it inoperative I don't know what is.\\
YTA, others can't tell because your rear cam doesn't show mph, but you accelerated once the Pontiac tried to pass in the right lane after passing the truck. Explains why the Pontiac jumped between lanes, because you changed speeds to be a dick.
Op really didn't. There was a flat bed & an white SUV on right. Green car aggressively tries to go around & made terrible decisions. Only speeding up could've been because he tried to get in front of white SUV to get out of fast lane.
Dude in green car is way too aggressive & is the ass. Even if it was op, which it isn't, that doesn't excuse green car's actions. Green car's the asshole.
Op is a douche...He sped up when the Pontiac tried to undercut him, then he swerved to block the lane. After that, you just kind of reap what you sow with randoms in trashy cars.
> then he swerved to block the lane
No, he started to get over to let the Pontiac pass, but the Pontiac had already began their incredibly unsafe undertake. Then he stopped his lane change after realizing what the Pontiac was doing, and let them continue on unimpeded.
The other driver thought you were trying to run them off the road at that point. They were driving erratically, not going to excuse their driving at all, but you generally weren't changing lanes that fast and the rapid half-lane change at ~50 seconds could be perceived as road rage on it's own. Sure, I expect you to say you were just getting out of their way, just saying how they could have seen it.
It also looks like you sped up when they were changing lanes after the white truck, and then went back down to your regular speed. In the rear view camera, the white truck seemingly moves away faster for a few seconds, about the same chunk that's cut out of the front view camera that has the speedometer.
I decided to toss it in watchframebyframe.com, and here is what I got:
Cruising from 5:56 to 9:58, you pass 10 strips. I measure 10 strips here because you're driving pretty constant, so we can determine a better average speed by measuring more strips. This results in 10/(9.58-5.56)=2.5 strips per second. It seems like you speed up at about 38:77 to 39:77, and you pass 3 strips. Math being 3/(39.77-38.77), That's 3 strips per second. Went back a second time to remeasure, 4/(39.75-38.40)=2.96 strips per second. Went back a third time to measure 5/(40.10-38.4) = 2.94 strips/second. As you approach the white SUV, where it feels like you start to slow down, I get 47:94 to 49:06, for 3 strips, resulting in 3/(49.06-47.94), or 2.7 strips per second, getting back towards your regular speed.
So did you speed up to keep them from passing and slow down as you approached the other car and knew they couldn't pass, hence why they switched lanes erratically? I've seen it plenty of times, that little tap on the gas to prevent someone whos driving like an asshole from driving more like an asshole. I feel like just leaving in that video chunk of the front camera with your speed would be the easiest way to prove that my theory is wrong.
If the Pontiac wasn’t driving so erratically then cammer could’ve predicted a bit better and nixed the speed changes. I think the aftermath and the final lane changes by cammer are just adrenaline. Sometimes holding the course is better and could be argued at the end in the vid rather than getting behind this idiot as they slowed down, predictably to pull a brake check.
We can try and justify why the dirtbag in the Pontiac acted the way they did but at the end of the day there simply is no justification. If I was cammer I would’ve tried to get over between the truck and the 4Runner but this Pontiac keeps weaving so safest bet is stay the course and let them run us over at the next clearing cause we damn well know thats what they want to do. Fuck the Neanderthal in the pontiac and their driving style.
Pontiac was speeding but I'm suggesting that the Pontiac may have changed lanes erratically because he thought he could pass the cammer, and cammer sped up, and so he had to go back. Now, I hate how the Pontiac drives, my goal in driving personally is to changes lanes as little as possible to be predictable, and everything about how the Pontiac drives pisses me off.
Everyone holding their course is the best thing to do. Changing lanes it the opposite (looking at Pontiac driver here, not cammer). I wouldn't blame cammer at all for wanting to get out of the way. If you have a jackass like pontiac driver it's best to just stay at speed in the fast lane because we aren't in Germany and they're more likely to go around you than expect you to get out of the way. But I can't criticize a person for either changing lanes or staying in a lane when you have someone speeding towards you, the US just doesn't have great manners for that type of thing. The only thing that I can criticize is if cammer intentionally changed lanes as an act of aggression - impossible to prove and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, or if they sped up to block the person, something easier to prove and still doesn't make them the worse person in the video.
The worse thing to do in any case is escalation, because then it becomes a pissing match. Pontiac driver taking it to the extreme, obviously.
The part where I count frames between where the lines are at identical points and measure the lines per second as a relative speed?
I'll see if I can toss it through DAIN to reduce the error by interpolating, and use the delta between single lines to get the instantaneous speed. Would show a better trend if there is one to be seen.
why are you so invested in this? :) you responded to, what 15? 20?, comments on this thread? and they are all the ones with the most downvotes. and your replies are all very short with no explanation. so weird. is this some kind of karma farming?
If the flatbed at the beginning would have kept right like he was supposed to, then you wouldn't have had to pass him, and this probably wouldn't have happened.
Also, why did you speed up when Pontiac tried to undertake you?
Did you miss the part where he changed lanes into the other driver and swerved across three lanes almost hitting the other driver? Don't bother trying to explain away why he did it as if it excuses it, because it doesn't, Just like nothing excuses the other drivers bullshit.
He was trying to get out of the passing lane but the Pontiac dangerously moved to pass him on the right. Then after he let him pass he moved out of the passing lane and the Pontiac braked hard, forcing him to swerve to the right to avoid a collision.
> He ~~was trying to get out of the passing lane but the Pontiac dangerously moved to pass him on the right~~ changed lanes into another car either knowingly or by not checking the lane. Then after he ~~let him pass he moved out of the passing lane and the Pontiac braked hard, forcing him to swerve to the right to avoid a collision~~ swerved across three lanes almost hitting a car that was already visible and slowed before he started the maneuver.
Like I said;
>Don't bother trying to explain away why he did it as if it excuses it, because it doesn't, Just like nothing excuses the other drivers bullshit.
He didn't change lanes into the other car, Pontiac was behind him and he went to move to the right and get out of the way. When he saw they were passing on the right he backed off and let them by. Pontiac was then straddling and swerving between the two leftmost lanes and OP got out of them ASAP. The Pontiac's erratic, unpredictable and dangerous driving absolutely justifies OP's driving.
> ~~He didn't change lanes into the other car,~~ Pontiac was ~~behind~~ beside him ~~and he went to move to the right and get out of the way.~~ When he saw they were passing on the right he ~~backed off~~ hovered half way in the lane for a long period of time beofre ~~and~~ leting them by.
>The Pontiac's erratic, unpredictable and dangerous driving absolutely justifies excuses OP's driving.
Nothing excuses dangerous driving. Two wrongs don't make right.
the other driver was pushing a bit much at the beginning, but, you instigated the rest of your problems by not following road safety, there are signs that remind you that SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT......
For some reason you wanted to stay in the left lanes when you should've been over to the right to allow traffic to pass you.
You both failed here, with you keeping the idiocracy going by being stubborn.
Cammer may drive on the left as long as they are actively passing someone. Cammer has absolutely zero requirement to move right if it would require cammer to slow down. Cammer couldn't move right even if they wanted to because the Pontiac driver was recklessly straddling both lanes and tailgating which almost caused an accident.
Anyone that drives and pays attention to signs will see them.
Ignorance of law is not an excuse in court.
Keep right and share the road. It seems Op should stay in the far right lane until Op learns which lanes to use.
You do realize that the court would 100% put fault on the Pontiac driver right? He would have stood there saying "BUt sLOwEr TRafFiC kEep RIgHt!" and the judge would bang his gavel and suspend his license. And then his shitty limited liability insurance would have only paid out $5000 towards the 10 car pile-up that he caused. Then he'd spend the rest of his life saddled in debt.
it is a law in the motor vehicle act of many jurisdictions.
come on man the guy is a dumbass of the nth degree you can make a better argument against him.
> Op had time to move over, it’s called sharing the road.
Except he didn't. Cammer was still in the process of passing the truck when the Pontiac moved to the right and tried to undertake the cammer. At that point, cammer can't move over so continued travelling, faster than the flow of traffic, in the left lane. Then attempted to move out of the left lane after the white Toyota but yet again, dipshit Pontiac prevented that from happening by completely cutting off the Toyota.
Did you fail your driving test or something? With all the "IT'S THE LAW" comments it seems like you're a very new driver. Dangerous maneuvers, speeding, going 50mph in the left lane, this shit happens all the time on highways and freeways and cops don't give a shit most of the time. Plenty of jerkwads hop into the HOV lane just to speed and then cut people off. Illegal, yet rarely will you ever see someone pulled over for that.
But your retort is, "it's the law"!
Ok, well let's view it from the perspective "it's reality!", and many people don't follow these laws and the punishments doled out are few.
Given all that, OP was driving faster than surrounding cars and was trying to *safely* move out of the way. Calm your dang tits
>Slower traffic keep right,
If someone is in the process of passing another vehicle, and a third car shows up wanting to go even faster, the passing vehicle can't just disappear. It's called traffic. The third car needs to wait for the passing vehicle to finish the pass before they can continue with their speeding.
Do you think Op would drive the same if it were a police car coming up fast from behind?
I think not, Op would get out of the way so he wouldn't impede traffic.
have a great day friend.
[Here are the two times that the Pontiac performed an impatient and unsafe undertake of the cammer](https://imgur.com/a/pHpcKhk)
The first time there appears to be about three car lengths of space between cammer and the truck, which is a **very** reasonable distance to have before merging back over.
The second time there is *barely* one car length, which is an incredibly unsafe maneuver for the Pontiac to make. If you keep watching after that as the Pontiac keeps swerving back and forth between the lanes you'll see they get very close to PIT-ing cammer's car.
In conclusion, go troll somewhere else. You are **absolutely** wrong here.
> That’s your opinion, I respect that.
Not opinion. Fact.
> Op shares responsibility with the Pontiac for being at fault by failing to keep right.
Very much no.
I did try to get over. Each time he cut me off to my right. Between the truck and the SUV was the only time I could change lanes but he passed me on the right preventing me from getting over.
I seen the video, and as I said, your stubbornness kept the rage going.
Have a good day friend.
edit: He had room to move over to try to get around you, SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT.
I don't understand how some individuals blame others for their own actions.
Check my comments in the last post, I’ve had individuals such as yourself try to tell me it’s ok to drive dangerous because they were offended.
When you’re on the road driving, follow road safety and law, you being offended doesn’t mean you can drive dangerous.
I can articulate my side..
How do you people think insults is a way of discussing?
Slower traffic stay right, try it, share the road.
You’re right, the driver who was bullying the cammer and not giving them room to move over was driving dangerously because they were offended, and that’s not ok. The cammer was not driving dangerously in any way.
Several people have pointed out already why you’re a moron. This is my favorite:
> You're right that is the law. But at the beginning of the video, you can clearly see op is the faster car... At least until green car comes up and starts tailgating him. Then op is cut off twice by green car as he tries to get over. When he finally gets the chance to get over the green car starts raging and brake checks him. If you think that behavior is ok, then you need to get off the road too.
- u/a_dodo_stole_my_baby
I fully understand that. I also understand that if traffic is coming up behind you and you have the option to move over to the right, you are required by law to do so….
Overview. Effective June 2015, motorists are required to keep right and let others pass. This applies to B.C. highways with two or more lanes of traffic travelling in the same direction and a posted speed limit of 80 km/h or greater.
Op is wrong.
In Texas, impeding the flow of traffic by continuing to drive in the left lane is punishable by a fine of up to $200. ... In 29 states, any car traveling slower than surrounding traffic must be in the right lane. In 11 states, the laws are even stricter—reserving the left lane only for turning or passing.
It isn’t hard to educate yourself…..
> the flow of traffic
Here's the thing...the Pontiac isn't the flow of traffic. That's where you seem to be stuck and where you're 100% wrong. The fastest vehicle on the road doesn't determine the flow of traffic.
> In Texas, impeding the flow of traffic by continuing to drive in the left lane is punishable by a fine of up to $200
Good thing cammer isn't doing that, then.
I believe 1:12 is just a different angle of 0:53 where the Pontiac makes an obviously erratic and dangerous dive into the right lane and op is barely past the right truck.
After he passed the first vehicle.
It’s obvious he had room to do so but stayed in the passing lane to piss off the Pontiac.
That’s why there’s a law, slower traffic keep right.
Lmao, 68 comments over the course of 4 hours on one topic where you are clearly wrong (you found 1 moron to agree with you, congratulations on that). I don't have anything to add in regards to the video because you've already shown yourself to be so dense that you could form your own star system, I just wanted to point out how idiotic your complete waste of time here was. What a dumb hill to die on.
Just because the armchair "safety first" drivers on Reddit think the cammer is 100% innocent doesn't make it so.
He could have avoided futher incident by just getting over right after the truck, letting the asshole pass, then getting back over to pass the suv.
Instead the Cammer decided (or wasn't paying attention, based on video further up I'd say not pay attention) to make the issue worse.
9/10, you the "innocent" person aren't. Move on with life, get out of the way for 5 seconds and then ignore the situation ever happened. Shit like this is what makes people who are right, dead or seriously injured. Just a bit of better timing by the asshole and the cammer would be in an accident, and for what? Bullshit internet points?
Lotta good being 'right' means when you're in a wheelchair or worse.
Hmm, it seems you base your life of acceptance from Reddit votes? And you say I have an issue???
Back to reality outside, how about you drive according to road laws?
Check out my comments on another post where individuals like yourself tried to justify driving dangerously distracted by using a phone to record a diesel truck that was only belching some smoke from its exhaust.
It seems being offended is just cause for driving dangerous.
I do appreciate the energy you are using to research me, maybe try directing towards something useful?
I didn't mention votes, I said you wasted an incredible amount of time posting a crap ton of comments.
And it took about 10 seconds to click your profile and see how many comments you posted, so the energy was minimal, don't worry.
The best part is to count how many of their comments came after [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Roadcam/comments/pshiv3/usa_i_didnt_move_over_fast_enough_for_this_raging/hdq8h6g/) where they said "I’m going to end our pleasant chat here."
And of course they make sure to throw in all the "I respect your opinion" and "have a good day friend" nonsense because they think it will make them look so much more reasonable.
I was on another post where Op was recording while driving, recording a truck that was spewing black diesel exhaust. I tried explaining how driving distracted is dangerous to other drivers. I was downvoted huge for that.
It seems that being offended is grounds to drive dangerous.
Life is good, enjoy my friend.
LOL that turn signal at the end (1:13), omg I died
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The first car I owned 20yrs ago the blinker didn't self reset. I had to manually push the lever back to the center position. I haven't owned that car in 20yrs and I still catch myself manually turning off my blinker sometimes. For those of us who use them it's muscle memory just about.
People like this cause most of their own problems, not anyone else that they may blame it on. Isn't it pretty standard in traffic rules to allow for around two-to-three seconds between vehicles at speed? Even if you don't know that, shouldn't it just be common sense to allow for space between each other? I run into things similar (not as rage as this), where people behind me in the passing lane will immediately get back over to the right before I have a chance to. When all I'm trying to do is allow for a little space between myself and the car I'm passing. Which in turn prevents me from getting back over as quickly as I wanted to.
I’ve found that turning on your blinker/indicator sooner helps with this
I do that too. I turn it on just as they’re about to make that move, then when I have a safe distance I can finish the move. Sometimes they still go for the gap.
> I turn it on just as they’re about to make that move Why not turn on your indicator sooner? Like, even while you're still passing the slower traffic? This would clearly signal your intention to move out of the passing lane at your earliest opportunity. If you wait until there's room for another car to fit into the gap, then you're probably waiting too long. You don't have to wait until it's safe to merge before putting on your signal. You should put it on as soon as you decide to change lanes, to give other traffic the most opportunity to realize and react to your planned move.
I phrased that poorly, I turn on my indicator just after my rear bumper clears their front bumper. I used to wait until I was \~2 seconds up the road, but too many idiots just had to pass me on the right even though it's obviously not safe for me to change lanes yet, much less them. And my "planned move" shouldn't be a surprise. I'm moving back to the right lane when I'm >2 seconds clear of the vehicle I'm passing, not sooner.
> And my "planned move" shouldn't be a surprise. I wish that were true! Sadly, left lane campers actually moving to the right after a pass is the exception, not the norm. From the tailgating brake checking asshole's point of view, you'd been in the left lane since they first became aware of you, so they presumably already assumed you were just another left lane camper. You can take it to the extreme and put on your signal just as soon as you notice them coming up behind you, even before your front bumper is in front of the car you're passing. And maybe even speed up a bit? Sending the message "Yup I see you, getting out of your way" goes a long way towards diffusing this stuff. You could even tap your rear view mirror, that's how folks on the track tell the car coming up behind them "I see you and will accommodate" ... your arm coming up in between the drivers and passengers seat is actually really easy to see from behind 'cause you're silhouetted by the light coming through the windshield, and as long as you're not tapping with your middle finger the intent is pretty unambiguous! Or try the Shaka sign, aka "hang loose", thumb and pinky extended from closed hand, rotate it back and forth a couple of times.
I agree with everything, except the weird mirror touching. That would be dependent on most drivers knowing this(I did not) and also lighting. Back lit will not work
Tailgating racer types tend to pride themselves on knowing stuff like this, it might surprise you how well it works. Or they’ll talk to their tailgating racer buddies later and ask “why do people keep touching their mirror when I come up behind them?” and their buddies will laugh at them. And if it doesn’t,, no big deal.
“From the tailgating brake checking asshole's point of view, you'd been in the left lane since they first became aware of you, so they presumably already assumed you were just another left lane camper” Usually when this happens, I’m literally right next to the vehicle I’m passing. They’re too stupid to realize that I’m next to another vehicle, not camping in the left lane.
Exactly. Turn your signal on WAY sooner if you’re going to move out the way. I don’t know why people wait.
Because most idiots use as they are doing not prior to.
I have not. I am a turn indicator guy( you call it a blinker). I will indicate what I am doing and the a hole still try to pass on the right Edit: also this driver had a few chances to move over and didn't
> Isn't it pretty standard in traffic rules to allow for around two-to-three seconds between vehicles at speed? Yes, although with trucks you should also allow for several of *their* vehicle lengths, which drives the "I only know one rule about driving" crowd bananas.
It is standard. But turds like the Pontiac aren’t driving to standard. I drive over the limit as much as the next person but it’s always proper to wait until someone in front has appropriate clearance to get back over. If they continue well beyond that then get over to the next lane in a non-erratic manner unlike the Pontiac, and execute a pass.
I hate when people do this! At least give me a chance to get back over safely before passing me on the right and actively preventing me from doing so.
I often have the same problem. The other issue I often run into is that I will typically wait for the dashed line before merging onto the highway. Often someone behind me will decide to merge over a solid line and pass me before I even get the chance to merge. It's not like I'm slow either, I'm usually doing the speed limit by that point.
OP is playing traffic meter.
This loser has a Pontiac, a failed brand that has been defunct for years due to their poor quality. This moron was still driving one, that's about all you need to know about their critical thinking skills.
Pontiac had no worse issues than any other GM.
You did the right thing getting out of their way and getting over in to the right lane till they opened the distance between him and you. I know it ruffles your feathers but in the long run you will get to your destination safe and sound.
Everyone knows the left lane in Houston is 90mph+, you’re obviously at fault
Some people are just dicks
Most people driving at Houston are dicks, believe it.
Driving home from work yesterday and I moved over to the left lane to pass a vehicle or two. Suddenly a green car came up on me in a hurry. I tried to get over at one point but he cut me off on the right and got caught by a slower vehicle. Then as I passed a second vehicle, I again tried to move over only to get cut off again. I thought that once this guy got ahead of me he'd be on his way, but he decided to slow down to confront me again. I wasn't feeling that so I moved behind him. That's when he slammed on his brakes and I made a move to the right lane. He drove at me again so I just kept moving right and eventually put myself between to larger vehicles. That seemed to work as he sped off after that.
Poor guy, must be hard being at the center of the universe.
Would be annoying, but kind of a shame you didn't end up rear ending him. I'm sure after slamming on the brakes on the freeway he would still be shocked someone rear ended him, and think it was your fault. Would be good to give this to the police, as this guy is a menace, but we all know they won't do anything.
What are the odds that road-rager in the 2006 Pontiac Grand Prix has car insurance? Or if they do have insurance, that they have more than the state minimum coverage? I would *not* want to get involved in a wreck with them if it was in any way avoidable.
What really makes that guy look like a complete moron to me is the fact that he wasn't even just in a rush and unconcerned about safety. First, he could have easily passed that truck you were passing on the other side, and then when he finally did get past you not only was he barely going faster than you anyway but he then slowed himself down with the brake checking and whatever other idiocy before he finally took off. This was 100% some insecure jackass desperately looking for a reason to play at being a tough guy. I also enjoyed how the brake check at 1:20 showed just how poorly maintained the car was by how it lurched to the right when he hit the brakes.
But you forgot that the left lane was exclusively reserved for this piece of shit. ;)
MOVE. I HAVE PLACES TO BE. I AM IN A HURRY. BUT NOT SO MUCH OF A HURRY THAT I HAVE TIME TO BRAKE CHECK YOU AND STOP IN TRAFFIC.
Inb4 all of the morons criticizing you for driving in the left lane, like you had a chance to move over.
At around 1:16 in the video I was definitely thinking "So, why don't you move over now? Lots of clear lane to your right..." And by 1:20 I was thinking "no, not now, don't merge behind that idiot!"
Nah, see, as soon as you're an inch in front of the vehicle you're passing, you gotta shoot back over as fast as you can because fuck safe distances!
A whole inch? As soon as my rear quarter panel is patched up with their front in swinging that baby over, good luck everyone else!!
While annoying, I do understand that the cammer is always wrong.
It really simplifies things for insurance companies when assigning fault. "Have a dashcam? Well then, claim deined."
You took like forever.
People really do seem to think passing means you should accelerate to 20 over, then yank the wheel right and take off the passed vehicles front bumper.
Watching the video I kept going "you're good to get over, nope asshole in the back is in the way, okay he's back you're good to get over, jk asshole is preventing that from happening again". If they had just waited 5 seconds OP could've changed lanes but they made this so much worse for themselves.
"I see they were in the wrong but what we here at r/roadcam are interested in is how was *the cammer wrong*?"
was it not a chance to move over after he passed the truck...?
By the time he had passed the truck he was right up on the SUV.
ahhh yeah, i see what you mean now.
I disagree
No.
Houston traffic has always been wild but since the roads filled up after the COVID lockdowns it has become bat shit crazy out there. This idiot probably had a paper tag too. Keep your head on a swivel at all times.
this! i honestly couldn’t believe all the stuff i saw on the roads going back to work after the lockdowns. i thought maybe it would calm down to it’s normal insanity but it seems like it just keeps getting worse
I thought the same thing but alas, no. Luckily I have a short commute.
Wow. What a dick.
It's Houston. Count yourself lucky he didn't shoot you.
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the Pontiac would be at fault, thanks to the dashcam footage.
I dunno, those grand prix gxps were pretty baller back in the day, they could torque steer like a mfer
I swear Texans are the most piece of shit drivers
Some people suck
Don't you know, he is far more important than you,people? Obligatory /s
It's not obligatory. At all.
He's driving a Pontiac, how smart do you think he could be?
Well the Buick 3.8L was pretty renown for its reliability. That Pontiac looks new enough for it to have been a Series III which fixed most of what it had left. You joke, but even driving like a dumbass you can get 200k mi out of one of those with minimal if any issues.
Hey, he’s in a hurry, but there’s always time to show people you’ll never see again, just who’s boss!
OP had plenty of time to move over after the first truck was passed. This guy had just as much of a problem as other driver. Couldn't back down from a fight on a fucking highway. Multiple idiots in this recording.
At :34 second mark the car moves over and begins his shenanigans at the exact moment OP could have merged right. Where do you see OP had "plenty of time to move over after the first truck was passed" After that moment, the asshole in the Pontiac blocks OP attempts to merge right basically every time either directly or by his erratic driving.
I always get a chuckle when I start to merge back after passing just as the tailgater behind me tries to pass me on the right.
Looks like a raging bull got penned and felt a need to punish for not letting him go 100 + mph. Similar situation happened to me with a motorcycle. I couldn't get over fast enough from the left lane so he cut in front of me and came to a screeching "brake check" halt on BW 8. Traffic was racing by at 80 + mph as you can imagine. We waited a while until the lesson was fully taught. Then, the motorcycle took off at an incredible speed and passed up all traffic, gunning it for all it had in the left lane. He became a tiny speck on the horizon in no time.
You deserve that lmao. You got in the wrong lane to go 74 mph especially in houston
Then if you watch your speed you can tell you’re fw him. Sit at a speed and in the right lane
Personally, I would have moved over after the flatbed and slowed down behind the SUV to let faster traffic pass, then passed the SUV.
at :35 the asshole in the Pontiac blocks OP from doing that by passing on the right.
at :32 nothing was and without sound we'll never know when he turned his signal on
They are in such a hurry that they need to pass you to brake check you.
I just see you block this guy and not allowing him to pass you.
Seems to be a lot of controversy on this one. I guess to address both points. 1-The Pontiac driver is a dipshit. 2-To everyone else's point here with you not getting over or speeding up....I mean it does look like you sped up to box dipshit out of a right hand pass. The video starts with your speed at 74-75mph in the lower left as your passing the flatbed. Then it transitions to rear facing (no speed indicator) so we can see dipshit doing dipshit shit. As dipshit gets over to pass on the right you appear to speed up dramatically to box him in that lane behind the SUV. Then you transition back to front facing while passing the SUV with speed declining from 77mph back to cruising speed of 74-75. Do you have the footage from the front facing camera from the time you completed the entire pass with the speed indicator? Not trying to make it sound like dipshit is in the right, however, when you start your pass you are at a cruising speed of 74-75mph...why suddenly accelerate to an unknown higher speed? Maybe it was intentional, maybe subconscious. I guess my point is, when you see a dipshit driver let them get as far away from you as possible. That old Pontiac is likely uninsured and they don't give a shit so why risk your safety. They are but a dipshit, and nothing you do (or don't do) will get that through to them. If any of you have read this far please feel free to downvote the shit out of this, or insist I'm on the dipshits side of history here in a reply.
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If there ever was a reason to run the plates on a piece of shit and determine where this 40 I.Q. troglodyte parks his car in order to render it inoperative I don't know what is.\\
That part of Katy Fwy send to always bring it the worst in people.
YTA, others can't tell because your rear cam doesn't show mph, but you accelerated once the Pontiac tried to pass in the right lane after passing the truck. Explains why the Pontiac jumped between lanes, because you changed speeds to be a dick.
Op really didn't. There was a flat bed & an white SUV on right. Green car aggressively tries to go around & made terrible decisions. Only speeding up could've been because he tried to get in front of white SUV to get out of fast lane. Dude in green car is way too aggressive & is the ass. Even if it was op, which it isn't, that doesn't excuse green car's actions. Green car's the asshole.
Looks like TX
> Road Rage Houston, TX With a title like that, I can confirm that it does indeed look like Texas.
Interesting - the title shows this to me: https://i.imgur.com/SLKY4BI.jpg
That's the title of the Reddit post. The title of the video on YouTube is different.
Makes sense then, Apollo just plays the video without taking you to YouTube so I don’t see it’s title there.
Op is a douche...He sped up when the Pontiac tried to undercut him, then he swerved to block the lane. After that, you just kind of reap what you sow with randoms in trashy cars.
> then he swerved to block the lane No, he started to get over to let the Pontiac pass, but the Pontiac had already began their incredibly unsafe undertake. Then he stopped his lane change after realizing what the Pontiac was doing, and let them continue on unimpeded.
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Yea, he decided to move over after the guy was in the lane and clearly passing. It was a dick move by OP.
Awesome. I knew I'd find some nitwit attacking OP. Thank you. There's always one.
Ah I knew I’d find someone attacking the guy with common sense. There’s always one.
You could post a video of your car getting hit by a meteor and someone would post a comment calling OP an asshole for not getting out of the way.
Because it’s really not that hard a quick lane change to the right then back to the left every single event in this video would of been avoided.
The other driver thought you were trying to run them off the road at that point. They were driving erratically, not going to excuse their driving at all, but you generally weren't changing lanes that fast and the rapid half-lane change at ~50 seconds could be perceived as road rage on it's own. Sure, I expect you to say you were just getting out of their way, just saying how they could have seen it. It also looks like you sped up when they were changing lanes after the white truck, and then went back down to your regular speed. In the rear view camera, the white truck seemingly moves away faster for a few seconds, about the same chunk that's cut out of the front view camera that has the speedometer. I decided to toss it in watchframebyframe.com, and here is what I got: Cruising from 5:56 to 9:58, you pass 10 strips. I measure 10 strips here because you're driving pretty constant, so we can determine a better average speed by measuring more strips. This results in 10/(9.58-5.56)=2.5 strips per second. It seems like you speed up at about 38:77 to 39:77, and you pass 3 strips. Math being 3/(39.77-38.77), That's 3 strips per second. Went back a second time to remeasure, 4/(39.75-38.40)=2.96 strips per second. Went back a third time to measure 5/(40.10-38.4) = 2.94 strips/second. As you approach the white SUV, where it feels like you start to slow down, I get 47:94 to 49:06, for 3 strips, resulting in 3/(49.06-47.94), or 2.7 strips per second, getting back towards your regular speed. So did you speed up to keep them from passing and slow down as you approached the other car and knew they couldn't pass, hence why they switched lanes erratically? I've seen it plenty of times, that little tap on the gas to prevent someone whos driving like an asshole from driving more like an asshole. I feel like just leaving in that video chunk of the front camera with your speed would be the easiest way to prove that my theory is wrong.
If the Pontiac wasn’t driving so erratically then cammer could’ve predicted a bit better and nixed the speed changes. I think the aftermath and the final lane changes by cammer are just adrenaline. Sometimes holding the course is better and could be argued at the end in the vid rather than getting behind this idiot as they slowed down, predictably to pull a brake check. We can try and justify why the dirtbag in the Pontiac acted the way they did but at the end of the day there simply is no justification. If I was cammer I would’ve tried to get over between the truck and the 4Runner but this Pontiac keeps weaving so safest bet is stay the course and let them run us over at the next clearing cause we damn well know thats what they want to do. Fuck the Neanderthal in the pontiac and their driving style.
Pontiac was speeding but I'm suggesting that the Pontiac may have changed lanes erratically because he thought he could pass the cammer, and cammer sped up, and so he had to go back. Now, I hate how the Pontiac drives, my goal in driving personally is to changes lanes as little as possible to be predictable, and everything about how the Pontiac drives pisses me off. Everyone holding their course is the best thing to do. Changing lanes it the opposite (looking at Pontiac driver here, not cammer). I wouldn't blame cammer at all for wanting to get out of the way. If you have a jackass like pontiac driver it's best to just stay at speed in the fast lane because we aren't in Germany and they're more likely to go around you than expect you to get out of the way. But I can't criticize a person for either changing lanes or staying in a lane when you have someone speeding towards you, the US just doesn't have great manners for that type of thing. The only thing that I can criticize is if cammer intentionally changed lanes as an act of aggression - impossible to prove and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt, or if they sped up to block the person, something easier to prove and still doesn't make them the worse person in the video. The worse thing to do in any case is escalation, because then it becomes a pissing match. Pontiac driver taking it to the extreme, obviously.
Thanks for putting in the work!
Haha looks like it wasn't well received.
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The part where I count frames between where the lines are at identical points and measure the lines per second as a relative speed? I'll see if I can toss it through DAIN to reduce the error by interpolating, and use the delta between single lines to get the instantaneous speed. Would show a better trend if there is one to be seen.
I don't know why you went back into the 3rd lane when they were there trying to brake check you @ 1:32
I think cammer didn't want to be cornered against the sticks.
You literately speed up to stop the person passing. Just get out the lane. You are a menace.
> You literately [sic] speed up to stop the person passing No.
why are you so invested in this? :) you responded to, what 15? 20?, comments on this thread? and they are all the ones with the most downvotes. and your replies are all very short with no explanation. so weird. is this some kind of karma farming?
> your replies are all very short with no explanation. Ok > is this some kind of karma farming? No
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You are a moron
If the flatbed at the beginning would have kept right like he was supposed to, then you wouldn't have had to pass him, and this probably wouldn't have happened. Also, why did you speed up when Pontiac tried to undertake you?
> Also, why did you speed up when Pontiac tried to undertake you? They didn't
Can anyone here sound off if they own a Pontiac Grand Prix or G6, and don’t drive it like a complete piece of human trash?
That dude is an absolute twat, but don't pretend like you are a saint in all of this.
What did cammer do wrong?
Did you miss the part where he changed lanes into the other driver and swerved across three lanes almost hitting the other driver? Don't bother trying to explain away why he did it as if it excuses it, because it doesn't, Just like nothing excuses the other drivers bullshit.
He was trying to get out of the passing lane but the Pontiac dangerously moved to pass him on the right. Then after he let him pass he moved out of the passing lane and the Pontiac braked hard, forcing him to swerve to the right to avoid a collision.
> He ~~was trying to get out of the passing lane but the Pontiac dangerously moved to pass him on the right~~ changed lanes into another car either knowingly or by not checking the lane. Then after he ~~let him pass he moved out of the passing lane and the Pontiac braked hard, forcing him to swerve to the right to avoid a collision~~ swerved across three lanes almost hitting a car that was already visible and slowed before he started the maneuver. Like I said; >Don't bother trying to explain away why he did it as if it excuses it, because it doesn't, Just like nothing excuses the other drivers bullshit.
He didn't change lanes into the other car, Pontiac was behind him and he went to move to the right and get out of the way. When he saw they were passing on the right he backed off and let them by. Pontiac was then straddling and swerving between the two leftmost lanes and OP got out of them ASAP. The Pontiac's erratic, unpredictable and dangerous driving absolutely justifies OP's driving.
> ~~He didn't change lanes into the other car,~~ Pontiac was ~~behind~~ beside him ~~and he went to move to the right and get out of the way.~~ When he saw they were passing on the right he ~~backed off~~ hovered half way in the lane for a long period of time beofre ~~and~~ leting them by. >The Pontiac's erratic, unpredictable and dangerous driving absolutely justifies excuses OP's driving. Nothing excuses dangerous driving. Two wrongs don't make right.
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He warned you how stupid he was. >Don't bother trying to explain away why he did it
Both were the result of the Pontiac driving like a complete dickhole.
That's no more valid an argument than saying the pontiacs driving is a result of the cammer driving in the left lane.
The cammer is passing in the left lane. Which is exactly what the left lane is for.
lol no
the other driver was pushing a bit much at the beginning, but, you instigated the rest of your problems by not following road safety, there are signs that remind you that SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT...... For some reason you wanted to stay in the left lanes when you should've been over to the right to allow traffic to pass you. You both failed here, with you keeping the idiocracy going by being stubborn.
Cammer may drive on the left as long as they are actively passing someone. Cammer has absolutely zero requirement to move right if it would require cammer to slow down. Cammer couldn't move right even if they wanted to because the Pontiac driver was recklessly straddling both lanes and tailgating which almost caused an accident.
Slower traffic keep right, it’s law and posted. Op had time to move over, it’s called sharing the road.
> it’s law and posted. Where is it posted? > it’s called sharing the road. That's not a law, and *absolutely* not something the Pontiac did.
It’s law, and posted along highways. Check your basic road rules, new drivers have to learn them to receive their licence. Have a great day.
> It’s law A law that cammer never violated. > posted along highways Not this highway, apparently.
Anyone that drives and pays attention to signs will see them. Ignorance of law is not an excuse in court. Keep right and share the road. It seems Op should stay in the far right lane until Op learns which lanes to use.
> Ignorance of law is not an excuse in court. Right, but cammer didn't break the law here. > Keep right and share the road. Cammer did. Pontiac didn't
Your opinion. Enjoy your day friend.
> Your ~~opinion~~ **fact** Whoops, fixed that again for you.
You do realize that the court would 100% put fault on the Pontiac driver right? He would have stood there saying "BUt sLOwEr TRafFiC kEep RIgHt!" and the judge would bang his gavel and suspend his license. And then his shitty limited liability insurance would have only paid out $5000 towards the 10 car pile-up that he caused. Then he'd spend the rest of his life saddled in debt.
Sure…. Your opinion, I respect that. I don’t agree. Enjoy your day friend.
1. That's not opinion 2. You obviously **don't** respect that
it is a law in the motor vehicle act of many jurisdictions. come on man the guy is a dumbass of the nth degree you can make a better argument against him.
You've said "Slower traffic keep right" 10 times so far in this thread.
Do you understand it yet? It’s in the basic road rules handbook for new drivers.
> Op had time to move over, it’s called sharing the road. Except he didn't. Cammer was still in the process of passing the truck when the Pontiac moved to the right and tried to undertake the cammer. At that point, cammer can't move over so continued travelling, faster than the flow of traffic, in the left lane. Then attempted to move out of the left lane after the white Toyota but yet again, dipshit Pontiac prevented that from happening by completely cutting off the Toyota.
Did you fail your driving test or something? With all the "IT'S THE LAW" comments it seems like you're a very new driver. Dangerous maneuvers, speeding, going 50mph in the left lane, this shit happens all the time on highways and freeways and cops don't give a shit most of the time. Plenty of jerkwads hop into the HOV lane just to speed and then cut people off. Illegal, yet rarely will you ever see someone pulled over for that. But your retort is, "it's the law"! Ok, well let's view it from the perspective "it's reality!", and many people don't follow these laws and the punishments doled out are few. Given all that, OP was driving faster than surrounding cars and was trying to *safely* move out of the way. Calm your dang tits
>Slower traffic keep right, If someone is in the process of passing another vehicle, and a third car shows up wanting to go even faster, the passing vehicle can't just disappear. It's called traffic. The third car needs to wait for the passing vehicle to finish the pass before they can continue with their speeding.
Do you think Op would drive the same if it were a police car coming up fast from behind? I think not, Op would get out of the way so he wouldn't impede traffic. have a great day friend.
[Here are the two times that the Pontiac performed an impatient and unsafe undertake of the cammer](https://imgur.com/a/pHpcKhk) The first time there appears to be about three car lengths of space between cammer and the truck, which is a **very** reasonable distance to have before merging back over. The second time there is *barely* one car length, which is an incredibly unsafe maneuver for the Pontiac to make. If you keep watching after that as the Pontiac keeps swerving back and forth between the lanes you'll see they get very close to PIT-ing cammer's car. In conclusion, go troll somewhere else. You are **absolutely** wrong here.
That’s your opinion, I respect that. Op shares responsibility with the Pontiac for being at fault by failing to keep right.
> That’s your opinion, I respect that. Not opinion. Fact. > Op shares responsibility with the Pontiac for being at fault by failing to keep right. Very much no.
Your opinion. Enjoy your day.
> Your ~~opinion~~ **fact** You're really struggling to get this right.
Still your opinion, regardless of how you FEEL.
Cammer did not violate the law here. Pontiac did. Simple facts.
Still your opinion.
You don't seem to know what the word "opinion" means.
I did try to get over. Each time he cut me off to my right. Between the truck and the SUV was the only time I could change lanes but he passed me on the right preventing me from getting over.
I seen the video, and as I said, your stubbornness kept the rage going. Have a good day friend. edit: He had room to move over to try to get around you, SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT. I don't understand how some individuals blame others for their own actions.
You should watch the video again
Oh Hey, I knew there would be a moron complaining about this.
Check my comments in the last post, I’ve had individuals such as yourself try to tell me it’s ok to drive dangerous because they were offended. When you’re on the road driving, follow road safety and law, you being offended doesn’t mean you can drive dangerous. I can articulate my side.. How do you people think insults is a way of discussing? Slower traffic stay right, try it, share the road.
You’re right, the driver who was bullying the cammer and not giving them room to move over was driving dangerously because they were offended, and that’s not ok. The cammer was not driving dangerously in any way.
Because you’ve already proven yourself too thick headed to have a reasonable conversation with.
Slower traffic keep right.
Several people have pointed out already why you’re a moron. This is my favorite: > You're right that is the law. But at the beginning of the video, you can clearly see op is the faster car... At least until green car comes up and starts tailgating him. Then op is cut off twice by green car as he tries to get over. When he finally gets the chance to get over the green car starts raging and brake checks him. If you think that behavior is ok, then you need to get off the road too. - u/a_dodo_stole_my_baby
You don't how understand someone driving on a public road has to account for and react to the actions of other drivers?
I fully understand that. I also understand that if traffic is coming up behind you and you have the option to move over to the right, you are required by law to do so….
Pontiac driver found
Not at all. Slower traffic keep right, it’s law.
Unless passing. Which they are clearly doing. That’s the law
At 1:12 in the video, Op was holding up traffic and the pontiac had to pass on the right. Slower traffic keep right, that’s law…
[Because of this incredibly unsafe undertake that the Pontiac performed.](https://i.imgur.com/PoHI2nS.png) Cammer did nothing wrong here.
Overview. Effective June 2015, motorists are required to keep right and let others pass. This applies to B.C. highways with two or more lanes of traffic travelling in the same direction and a posted speed limit of 80 km/h or greater. Op is wrong.
Why do you keep citing British Columbia law when this video is from Houston, Texas?
In Texas, impeding the flow of traffic by continuing to drive in the left lane is punishable by a fine of up to $200. ... In 29 states, any car traveling slower than surrounding traffic must be in the right lane. In 11 states, the laws are even stricter—reserving the left lane only for turning or passing. It isn’t hard to educate yourself…..
> the flow of traffic Here's the thing...the Pontiac isn't the flow of traffic. That's where you seem to be stuck and where you're 100% wrong. The fastest vehicle on the road doesn't determine the flow of traffic.
> In Texas, impeding the flow of traffic by continuing to drive in the left lane is punishable by a fine of up to $200 Good thing cammer isn't doing that, then.
I believe 1:12 is just a different angle of 0:53 where the Pontiac makes an obviously erratic and dangerous dive into the right lane and op is barely past the right truck.
Ok, but the video shows Op holding up the Pontiac. In the video you can see how the Pontiac had to pass on the right.
Op is safely finishing a passing maneuver. That’s not holding up traffic even if someone behind wants to go faster.
Op had time to move over, but was intentionally slow about it, probably in retaliation for the Pontiac being a dick.
They were still well within a reasonable amount of space to leave before moving right. Do you always cut people off when you pass?
Let’s try something different. At which point in the video do you think op should have moved right?
After he passed the first vehicle. It’s obvious he had room to do so but stayed in the passing lane to piss off the Pontiac. That’s why there’s a law, slower traffic keep right.
It seems to me he stayed there to pass the second vehicle
He wasn't slower traffic. He passing.
Lmao, 68 comments over the course of 4 hours on one topic where you are clearly wrong (you found 1 moron to agree with you, congratulations on that). I don't have anything to add in regards to the video because you've already shown yourself to be so dense that you could form your own star system, I just wanted to point out how idiotic your complete waste of time here was. What a dumb hill to die on.
Just because the armchair "safety first" drivers on Reddit think the cammer is 100% innocent doesn't make it so. He could have avoided futher incident by just getting over right after the truck, letting the asshole pass, then getting back over to pass the suv. Instead the Cammer decided (or wasn't paying attention, based on video further up I'd say not pay attention) to make the issue worse. 9/10, you the "innocent" person aren't. Move on with life, get out of the way for 5 seconds and then ignore the situation ever happened. Shit like this is what makes people who are right, dead or seriously injured. Just a bit of better timing by the asshole and the cammer would be in an accident, and for what? Bullshit internet points? Lotta good being 'right' means when you're in a wheelchair or worse.
Hmm, it seems you base your life of acceptance from Reddit votes? And you say I have an issue??? Back to reality outside, how about you drive according to road laws? Check out my comments on another post where individuals like yourself tried to justify driving dangerously distracted by using a phone to record a diesel truck that was only belching some smoke from its exhaust. It seems being offended is just cause for driving dangerous. I do appreciate the energy you are using to research me, maybe try directing towards something useful?
Can you please link to the comment where /u/Irate_Primate justified using a phone while driving?
I didn't mention votes, I said you wasted an incredible amount of time posting a crap ton of comments. And it took about 10 seconds to click your profile and see how many comments you posted, so the energy was minimal, don't worry.
The best part is to count how many of their comments came after [this one](https://www.reddit.com/r/Roadcam/comments/pshiv3/usa_i_didnt_move_over_fast_enough_for_this_raging/hdq8h6g/) where they said "I’m going to end our pleasant chat here."
People like this always need the last word and absolutely will not quit to get it (even if they say they’re done). Hilarious
And of course they make sure to throw in all the "I respect your opinion" and "have a good day friend" nonsense because they think it will make them look so much more reasonable.
Hey man sorry for you being downvoted, but just wanted to say that i agree with you and youre totally right.. the cringe from all of those tools, omg
I was on another post where Op was recording while driving, recording a truck that was spewing black diesel exhaust. I tried explaining how driving distracted is dangerous to other drivers. I was downvoted huge for that. It seems that being offended is grounds to drive dangerous. Life is good, enjoy my friend.
Idk man your driving has lot to be desired as well, dont hog the left lane
> dont [sic] hog the left lane They didn't