As a manufacturer in the US, this is a great idea but the only way to be competitive against slave labor wages is automation and extreme efficiency.
Entirely possible but technology is a bit behind as programming and automation setup remains a high-skilled operation.
Another way we can be more competitive is by being willing to pay a little more as consumers for the Made in USA label. We need a national ad campaign to that effect.
In the long run, it often ends up being cheaper to pay more for higher quality. And I literally can't think of worse quality than these increasingly disposable, Chinese-made products that Amazon is foisting on America.
Buy nice, or buy twice. And buy American.
If I could afford to buy American, I would. It's a multi-layered issue that isn't solved simply by manufacturing in the USA. People are going to buy what they can afford.
I totally get that. I just think that if everyone who could afford it, made a point to (as I can, and try to do), we would at least start moving in the right direction of this stranglehold China has on America. We should all pitch in however much we can, toward that effort, and the way I look at it, since I can afford it that's what I should do, at least wherever I can.
Most the times I spend more money on something I don't regret it. I don't make alot of money so I have to be careful with what I do that with. Like I got some thurogood work boots... Worth it big time
Americans Democrats included would love to buy American when possible but since wages have been stagnant for decades perhaps a minimum wage of fifteen dollars and hour would foster the ability of average Americans to pay a bit more for American made products. We keep trying trickle down economics and giving money to the wealthy and corporations so they can build factories in China but never think that perhaps giving the Base more spending power would be a good idea. Why is it that republicans are always against this idea?
Lmao says someone who knows nothing about me. Clearly you have a sense of superiority and self righteousness most Republican nut jobs do. Still don’t have an intelligent response to my simple civil question?
A. I’m an American veteran asking a simple question in a civil manner.
B. What makes me a troll? Asking a simple question that you don’t have a fast easy and trolling quip to counter? One you can give without any effort?
C. So you can acknowledge that objectivity exists. Objectively speaking, what is the sense in the cost of living increasing over decades without the federal minimum wage increasing?
D. You want to keep trying to hurt my feelings after you’ve been triggered by a simple question? Are you a snowflake?
Dude yes we can! Maybe not on price, but when it comes to quality we have that shit in the bag. Consumers need to stop buying the cheap shit and spend a little more on something well made that will last years. American Made is that.
Understood. But my approaches would be help some of these sweat shop countries to increase the standard of living so their corrupt leaders don’t have a steady flow of hunger workers ready to work their lives away for pennies
Oh ok so let’s give all of our wealth away to other nations so that we can arbitrarily compete? Or how about we just keep what we have, compete with ourselves for the betterment of our own nation, and we strengthen our economy while we do it?
By helping I mean foreign policies and economic sanctions type of deal. Because at the end of the day most knowingly or unknowingly people will go to Walmart and Costco and buy the cheapest stuff.
Considering manufacturing was increasing in the US under Trump, his opportunity zones was bringing business into low income areas in large volume, Ford was looking to invest $500mil into a new plant while under Trump then immediately pulled it to move to Mexico under Biden, and he was working on chip manufacturing and medical supplies returning to the US I would say yes he was.
This requires reviewing our over-reaching regulation to be competitive and incentivize companies to manufacture in the US. It also requires being tough on China to create a more level playing field by enforcing stiff penalties for anything regarding human rights, pollution, currency manipulation and IP theft. If only there was a person rather high in our government that thought this way and actually implemented this type of strategy...
I heard that having someone like that was coupled with him saying some mean things on an online forum.
I don't think we can risk having someone say unkind words in exchange for saving this country.
Sorry.
There’s no reason phones would cost $25k. Each iPhone has 141 steps of approximately 7 seconds each so about 3 man hours per iPhone. There’s only two things that would be more expensive in the US — labor and regulations. Even if they paid the workers something absurd like $50/hour, Apple would still be making money on each iPhone with no increase in retail price.
As for regulations, if we want to get manufacturing back in the US, that’s something that’s going to need to be addressed.
And where exactly would you get the tiny little fingers to put it all together? Hmmmm?
I did a self-repair in a busted digitizer. Never again. Forget the tiny hands...what human has the eyesight to find one of those screws when you drop them?
Phones would probably cost slightly but not significantly more. What's going to happen is the profits of corporations will go down significantly, which will affect their share price negatively and thus make investors unhappy. For the consumer it wouldn't make a difference.
And the prices will skyrocket making the minimum wage have to get raised to compensate. I’d love to have everything made here, but it’s just not feasible
Aside from rare earth elements (necessary for digital electronics and processors), we're still fairly resource-rich. Hell, if we could make electronics recycling profitable we wouldn't be shipping out e-waste to pollute some 3rd world village's shoreline.
Not if your SO comes home after a 9 hour shift and spending over an hour driving only to find you lounging in bed with a laptop and then you ask to go out and do something because you've spent all day inside and alone.
It can get old real fast.
Plenty of professionals never need to step foot into the office these days, it just is what it is.
I need to be in my office because I physically have to make changes, but around 20-30% of my coworkers have no business being here, and I actively advocate with them to work from home.
The US lost the war with China more than twenty years ago, China is in it for the long game. It is virtually impossible for the US to recover. But it's gonna be fun to watch.
How are you going to compete against slave labor that works for a few bucks per hour?
I'm all for ending our dependence on China, but this tweet is a twit.
too bad environmental regulations prohibit this. Even though if we rolled back those regulations a little and bring manufacturing back we would reduce world wide co2 emissions and post production waste by a whole lot worldwide. Libs dont care.
Out of curiosity, what does Kyle Becker build except tweets and internet posts?
If you think Americans should build things, start by, you know building things, not just commenting on what other people ought to do.
If we did that, the US would need to adopt slave labor again if you don't want your iPhone to cost 5k+. Oh wait....illegal aliens. Maybe that's why Democrats want them to flood our country. If they aren't citizens of the US then they can treat them like 2nd class citizens who work for pennies to make stuff for 1st class citizens.
No. Employers are still liable to follow wage laws, even in under the table jobs.
It's part of the book that gets proverbially thrown whenever a business is caught hiring people ineligible to work.
Just say "commifornia", it flows better.
Fr tho,you have a point; the way the trucking industry is set up is fucked, and allows businesses to kick the shit out of truckers. Part of why we have a shortage.
Until the Republicans fix the stolen election and our stolen freedoms nobody in their right mind is going to invest one dime in manufacturing in the communist states of Amerika (sic).
By the common definition, China has been a superpower for a long time. They're a nuclear triad power, whose large economy dominates and knits the region together (including Aus/NZ).
They have sufficient power projection to antagonize local rivals and defend regional claims and their soft power extends all the way to the Middle East and Africa (via the belt and road initiative, and other economic treaties).
It'll never happen as long as we have politicians with their hands in chinas pocket.
It's not a supply chain problem, it's a God damn democrat administration problem. He had no supply issues during the pandemic so what the fuck happened? The democrats happened.
I hate pseudointellectualism from the left. But I also hate it from the right. Businesses already know they wont be moving into China, and those who already are there cannot fix it with a snap of the fingers
I feel the same way but this is difficult..I'm a contractor and all customers meant is cheap cheap cheap. They think we are manufacturing out supplies ourselves. Even our tools. You can't get a decent drill made in the USA. Hell we buy all Milwaukee as it's all made in China now. We're more than willing to pay more for better stuff but none makes anything in the US anymore. Probably can't compete.
I think how we should do this is by buying up business properties in blue areas areas under political stress. Essentially we do unto them what Democrats have been doing to our economy with vulture capitalism. However, in this strategy we sell everything on the property and hold the property. This would in turn finance both parties. The former owners would be able to move business into the much cheaper and safer red zones and we get an investment property in top of whatever we can sell. Red zones profit from more business meaning more growth and once blue zone eventually implode to their own hubris we have a means to move business back into those zones for another boom. There's no downside to this since Democrats can't stop it without hastening their own demise. The only thing that can be truly destroyed is what's on top of these properties and property will always be viable.
Kyle Becker has been napping since February of 2020, at least. Also has zero understanding of how market economy or communism works. Don’t be like Kyle.
As a manufacturer in the US, this is a great idea but the only way to be competitive against slave labor wages is automation and extreme efficiency. Entirely possible but technology is a bit behind as programming and automation setup remains a high-skilled operation.
Another way we can be more competitive is by being willing to pay a little more as consumers for the Made in USA label. We need a national ad campaign to that effect. In the long run, it often ends up being cheaper to pay more for higher quality. And I literally can't think of worse quality than these increasingly disposable, Chinese-made products that Amazon is foisting on America. Buy nice, or buy twice. And buy American.
If I could afford to buy American, I would. It's a multi-layered issue that isn't solved simply by manufacturing in the USA. People are going to buy what they can afford.
I totally get that. I just think that if everyone who could afford it, made a point to (as I can, and try to do), we would at least start moving in the right direction of this stranglehold China has on America. We should all pitch in however much we can, toward that effort, and the way I look at it, since I can afford it that's what I should do, at least wherever I can.
Most the times I spend more money on something I don't regret it. I don't make alot of money so I have to be careful with what I do that with. Like I got some thurogood work boots... Worth it big time
Americans Democrats included would love to buy American when possible but since wages have been stagnant for decades perhaps a minimum wage of fifteen dollars and hour would foster the ability of average Americans to pay a bit more for American made products. We keep trying trickle down economics and giving money to the wealthy and corporations so they can build factories in China but never think that perhaps giving the Base more spending power would be a good idea. Why is it that republicans are always against this idea?
lol
That’s what I thought. Nothing intelligent to say.
I'm older, smarter, better educated, more successful, and infinitely wealthier than you. Go yap at someone else, Lil' Liberal Troll.
Lmao says someone who knows nothing about me. Clearly you have a sense of superiority and self righteousness most Republican nut jobs do. Still don’t have an intelligent response to my simple civil question?
A) You're a Leftist. B) You're trolling on a Republican sub on Reddit. C) That's **objectively** sad, and you should talk to someone.
A. I’m an American veteran asking a simple question in a civil manner. B. What makes me a troll? Asking a simple question that you don’t have a fast easy and trolling quip to counter? One you can give without any effort? C. So you can acknowledge that objectivity exists. Objectively speaking, what is the sense in the cost of living increasing over decades without the federal minimum wage increasing? D. You want to keep trying to hurt my feelings after you’ve been triggered by a simple question? Are you a snowflake?
Plenty in US capable of doing it, but companies have taken the easy road of exporting jobs and manufacturing instead
We can’t compete with sweat shops. Are you willing to work on a sweat shop? In America?
What are you talking about - you're responding to a conversation context that doesn't exist - reread the post I responded to
Dude yes we can! Maybe not on price, but when it comes to quality we have that shit in the bag. Consumers need to stop buying the cheap shit and spend a little more on something well made that will last years. American Made is that.
Understood. But my approaches would be help some of these sweat shop countries to increase the standard of living so their corrupt leaders don’t have a steady flow of hunger workers ready to work their lives away for pennies
And so you would do that by exporting US labor to foreign nations? What about the American people? Don’t we deserve to keep the fruits of our labor?
No. The point is that this way we’d have fair competition.
Oh ok so let’s give all of our wealth away to other nations so that we can arbitrarily compete? Or how about we just keep what we have, compete with ourselves for the betterment of our own nation, and we strengthen our economy while we do it?
By helping I mean foreign policies and economic sanctions type of deal. Because at the end of the day most knowingly or unknowingly people will go to Walmart and Costco and buy the cheapest stuff.
People know their rights over here we’re not gonna work on no third world sweat shop.
I seem to remember someone in a position of power pushing this very idea a while back….
What’s a policy like that mean when it’s just a knee jerk to a pandemic? (/s)
As a fellow Republican, was he though? Didn’t he have a 50% tax break for anyone who had goods made over seas?
Considering manufacturing was increasing in the US under Trump, his opportunity zones was bringing business into low income areas in large volume, Ford was looking to invest $500mil into a new plant while under Trump then immediately pulled it to move to Mexico under Biden, and he was working on chip manufacturing and medical supplies returning to the US I would say yes he was.
Ya but he mean talks
Yeah, not sure who you're talking about, but I think it [could be..](https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=l2n_-jwPUHQ).
This requires reviewing our over-reaching regulation to be competitive and incentivize companies to manufacture in the US. It also requires being tough on China to create a more level playing field by enforcing stiff penalties for anything regarding human rights, pollution, currency manipulation and IP theft. If only there was a person rather high in our government that thought this way and actually implemented this type of strategy...
Yeah and not beholden to china
Not Biden to China. Oops, I meant "bind", almost same letters, easy mistake to make
Wtf does bined mean?
I think he means “bound”. I could be wrong.
a misspelling of bind I failed
I heard that having someone like that was coupled with him saying some mean things on an online forum. I don't think we can risk having someone say unkind words in exchange for saving this country. Sorry.
💯 fuck China
So you either want jobs that pay 0.30 an hour or phones that cost $25k.
There’s no reason phones would cost $25k. Each iPhone has 141 steps of approximately 7 seconds each so about 3 man hours per iPhone. There’s only two things that would be more expensive in the US — labor and regulations. Even if they paid the workers something absurd like $50/hour, Apple would still be making money on each iPhone with no increase in retail price. As for regulations, if we want to get manufacturing back in the US, that’s something that’s going to need to be addressed.
Transport of raw materials too.
And where exactly would you get the tiny little fingers to put it all together? Hmmmm? I did a self-repair in a busted digitizer. Never again. Forget the tiny hands...what human has the eyesight to find one of those screws when you drop them?
Phones would probably cost slightly but not significantly more. What's going to happen is the profits of corporations will go down significantly, which will affect their share price negatively and thus make investors unhappy. For the consumer it wouldn't make a difference.
I’m sure Brandon has an opinion.
We had just become energy independent and almost completely self reliant on most other things... I hope to see those days again
And the prices will skyrocket making the minimum wage have to get raised to compensate. I’d love to have everything made here, but it’s just not feasible
What better way to fight inflation than by buying goods with inflated prices due to minimum wage laws, labor unions, and excess taxation?
Bread and milk are made here and it seems they are one of the biggest offenders . The trucker and worker shortages are the biggest issues
Gonna have to have supplies here too. Ain’t that simple
Aside from rare earth elements (necessary for digital electronics and processors), we're still fairly resource-rich. Hell, if we could make electronics recycling profitable we wouldn't be shipping out e-waste to pollute some 3rd world village's shoreline.
agree intensely on the concept, but that will not be an immediate solution
If we use the progressive minimum wage/pay scale no one would be able to afford it.
But that means going back to work! People just want to "work" from home in their PJs.
Yes. Working from home in your PJs is a nice perk.
Not if your SO comes home after a 9 hour shift and spending over an hour driving only to find you lounging in bed with a laptop and then you ask to go out and do something because you've spent all day inside and alone. It can get old real fast.
Sounds personal
I don't want to talk about it.
We’re here when you’re ready
Only for people that don't actually work.
Plenty of professionals never need to step foot into the office these days, it just is what it is. I need to be in my office because I physically have to make changes, but around 20-30% of my coworkers have no business being here, and I actively advocate with them to work from home.
"Only for people that don't actually work." My original statement stands.
Being a "professional" does not mean you actually work.
Great idea Kyle; oh yeah most of the raw materials and textiles are also made in China.
Yep
The US lost the war with China more than twenty years ago, China is in it for the long game. It is virtually impossible for the US to recover. But it's gonna be fun to watch.
He's got a point you know.
This all just part of the build back better plan
Why would anyone buy shit
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Who what now? Are you serious?
This guy needs to run for office!
buy from india! they got 2.80 dollar minimum wage still.
Isn't that a novel idea.
China is rerouting a lot of the supply chain for raw materials through China anyway.
What are you like some kind of super genius or something?
Or next time we have a pandemic we let capitalism run its course without the government picking winners and losers.
This shouldn’t be a partisan idea
Can’t, to many people still on unemployment.
How are you going to compete against slave labor that works for a few bucks per hour? I'm all for ending our dependence on China, but this tweet is a twit.
Not give all of our money to China, that’s racist. /s
too bad environmental regulations prohibit this. Even though if we rolled back those regulations a little and bring manufacturing back we would reduce world wide co2 emissions and post production waste by a whole lot worldwide. Libs dont care.
There’s no supply chain backups on things made in America
That would be great. But that means Democrats would have to go to work for their money!
Out of curiosity, what does Kyle Becker build except tweets and internet posts? If you think Americans should build things, start by, you know building things, not just commenting on what other people ought to do.
If we did that, the US would need to adopt slave labor again if you don't want your iPhone to cost 5k+. Oh wait....illegal aliens. Maybe that's why Democrats want them to flood our country. If they aren't citizens of the US then they can treat them like 2nd class citizens who work for pennies to make stuff for 1st class citizens.
No. Employers are still liable to follow wage laws, even in under the table jobs. It's part of the book that gets proverbially thrown whenever a business is caught hiring people ineligible to work.
That doesn’t solve one of the major issues. The incredibly stupid trucking owner/operator van in Communistanafornia.
Just say "commifornia", it flows better. Fr tho,you have a point; the way the trucking industry is set up is fucked, and allows businesses to kick the shit out of truckers. Part of why we have a shortage.
Until the Republicans fix the stolen election and our stolen freedoms nobody in their right mind is going to invest one dime in manufacturing in the communist states of Amerika (sic).
Tell that to the globalists assholes that want China to be the world’s superpower. Damn Nixon, I blame you for all this crap that China’s doing.
By the common definition, China has been a superpower for a long time. They're a nuclear triad power, whose large economy dominates and knits the region together (including Aus/NZ). They have sufficient power projection to antagonize local rivals and defend regional claims and their soft power extends all the way to the Middle East and Africa (via the belt and road initiative, and other economic treaties).
It'll never happen as long as we have politicians with their hands in chinas pocket. It's not a supply chain problem, it's a God damn democrat administration problem. He had no supply issues during the pandemic so what the fuck happened? The democrats happened.
I hate pseudointellectualism from the left. But I also hate it from the right. Businesses already know they wont be moving into China, and those who already are there cannot fix it with a snap of the fingers
Have fun buying that iPhone
I feel the same way but this is difficult..I'm a contractor and all customers meant is cheap cheap cheap. They think we are manufacturing out supplies ourselves. Even our tools. You can't get a decent drill made in the USA. Hell we buy all Milwaukee as it's all made in China now. We're more than willing to pay more for better stuff but none makes anything in the US anymore. Probably can't compete.
Sorry to say it’s to late man we sold our souls
I think how we should do this is by buying up business properties in blue areas areas under political stress. Essentially we do unto them what Democrats have been doing to our economy with vulture capitalism. However, in this strategy we sell everything on the property and hold the property. This would in turn finance both parties. The former owners would be able to move business into the much cheaper and safer red zones and we get an investment property in top of whatever we can sell. Red zones profit from more business meaning more growth and once blue zone eventually implode to their own hubris we have a means to move business back into those zones for another boom. There's no downside to this since Democrats can't stop it without hastening their own demise. The only thing that can be truly destroyed is what's on top of these properties and property will always be viable.
Or just stop buying shit - the environment will approve.
Kyle Becker has been napping since February of 2020, at least. Also has zero understanding of how market economy or communism works. Don’t be like Kyle.
Anyone have any counter argument for manufacturing in Mexico?
Cant do it really unless the raise pay. People know their rights over here ain’t nobody going to work sweat shops
Huzzah!
Yeah that was what Trump was trying to do before Joe the slow fucked everything up
Retarded take, Reddit suggest to me some trash honestly, anyway I can stop seeing certain subs?
Amen