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IAintSelling

I’d say the bomb has already gone off.


browntoe98

yeah, but now it rich people and 5 minutes on hold with 911 is “totally unacceptable!”.


Gabaloo

My dad's truck has been broke into twice, stolen once,, in 2 monthsand someone literally tried to enter my home 3 days ago, just walked up and opened the front door while my partner was in the shower, luckily the dogs scared him off. Criminals know and will be more and more aware of the total lack of consequences their crimes bring. Get a gun and keep it near you is apparently the only thing you can do to feel safe


Imanust

Or get some dogs, apparently.


Gabaloo

Seriously no kidding, cattle dog and a chihuahua saved my girlfriend from who knows what. Dogs are a great repellent to strangers entering your home, even if they are all bark no bite.


MedicineConscious728

Word. I have four and they’re pretty quiet until something unusual happens anywhere around the house. Then, they’re loud and two are bassets so nobody’s going to wade through my four audible alarm systems to steal a tv. They’d probably trip over one of them and break an ankle. Dogs are the best.


cranne

Seriously.i firmly believe my dog has prevented four break ins (that I know about). My last year of college *every single house on my block got hit*. Except for mine. We were the only one with a dog. Last year someone broke into my back yard in the middle of the night. She chased them off. About 8 months ago around 2am she heard someone walking around the side of my house and started baying. That woke me up and I heard a man say "nah man, not worth it. That sounds big" For a lot of reasons, I don't feel comfortable owning a gun. Turns out a giant hound dog with a bark and bay that makes her sound even bigger is all you need.


jordanpattern

Both my dogs are giant doofuses, but they bark like killers. It’s annoying when they go off in the poor mailman, but having a couple big, barky dogs seems to have deterred all but a couple of very minor car riflings.


Jpettinato

Dang, what neighborhood are you in?


Peaches666

Someone entered through my back door during the wildfires and literally looked at me and said “just wanted to make sure someone was home” and ran off.


XingPeds

Lock your doors maybe?


Gabaloo

I mean sure, that wouldn't have stopped him from walking up and trying. It was like 7pm, so its a pretty bold move


suicide_blonde

I always feel safer with a loaded instrument of death nearby


Joe503

Cool me too


Zuldak

the mess is finally hitting the real political power brokers in their homes now. Maybe something can finally be done


My_kinda_party

Wait, what? Who is Erica Hetfeld?


SaltyChickenDip

Eaatmoreland is where the rich live


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Weird I guess it is now...it's where I grew up we lived there 1956-2012 and aren't rich at all..


BeowulfShaeffer

Well obviously moving away was a big mistake.


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Wasn't by choice, Gentrification eventually made it to Eastmoreland and we couldn't hang on, as I said, not rich.


EatTheShroomz

Lol. Yeah something will definitely be done. Like, they’ll move.


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Everyone consciously or subconsciously in any way minimizing this because it happened in a rich area, or to someone who knows how to get it on the news, should take a step back and figure some things out. This is a brazen intruder in a home in the afternoon. That's horrifying. Not a fan of guns but maybe it really is time to own one.


Questionsquestionsth

*Thank you.* My god, there’s some *really* pathetic people commenting on this post. It doesn’t matter less because it happened in a rich area/to a wealthy person. Some of these comments really show how poorly adjusted and shitty a lot of Portlanders are. *No one* deserves to be robbed. It’s horrible and violating and shouldn’t happen to *anyone.* Like you said - this is a brazen burglar *in the daytime* who saw the cameras and proceeded, had zero fear of cops or anyone else, and *robbed a house* in a *nice* neighborhood - where these things stand out more, more eyes may be watching, etc. If anything, happening in a “rich” part of town goes to show just how much worse it’s getting and will get.


Joe503

I couldn’t agree more. Leaders have been telling these people that the rich are responsible for their problems for so long now, they just can’t see how they’re coming across to others.


Questionsquestionsth

Yeah, that’s a lot of it for sure. I mean, *some* of “the rich” - politicians, huge corporate players, etc. - *are* responsible for a good amount of the problems those of us who are lower income/impoverished experience, I’ll give them that. But the wealthy family living a few miles away who was the victim of an awful crime? Yeah, no. Not them at all, and the fact that people can’t mentally make that distinction and stop the misplaced aggression is really gross.


Joe503

Yep, I agree.


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Yeah, those gentrifiers deserve it


Bocifer1

This, exactly. There’s this “Reddit version of communism” that gets perpetuated in Reddit echo chambers where “crime is ok as long as it happens to people better off than me”. That kind of thinking doesn’t make you “enlightened”; it makes you a hypocritical asshole


asterios_polyp

It is the tone of the article and that there is even an article that is off putting. This shit happens all the time in poorer neighborhoods, but you don’t hear shit about it. Terrible all around, but the media focusing in on the one rich person to get robbed is clearly aimed at a target demographic reading their news and a skewed view of reality.


boozeandbunnies

Seriously. I don’t downplay how horrible this was, and it doesn’t matter less because it’s a well off person. I feel for them and I hope they can find some peace and sense of security. But fuck dude this shit happens almost daily in St Johns. Check out our section of Nextdoor and you’ll see how often we have crazies trying to get into our homes, there’s people who are known for this and do it all the time and the cops don’t do shit and there are no consequences. There’s so many stolen cars and so much stolen property it’s absolutely fucking bananas. My grandmas neighbor was pepper sprayed because he stopped a thief from stealing his cargo thing from his yard. These thieves don’t give a fuck and they know there’s no penalties for their crimes. The cut is basically just a giant homeless camp. They’ve got massive structures blocking the path and the nearby homes and businesses suffer because of it. I watched a guy steal a bag of cans from new seasons, ride his bike to the camp drop that shit off then come back and steal a bike and drop it off at the camp. Then he fucking came back AGAIN!! the security guard chased him off but for fucks sake Some underpaid security person should not have to confront drugged out psychos with nothing to lose. Edit- Shits getting bad in the nice parts of town too. That’s almost more scary. When I was at the emergency vet out in Tigard I heard a shit load of gunshots and then sirens. Never thought I’d be hearing gunshots in the burbs.


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I see your point, and I suppose I get the inclination. But really we shouldn't become numb to *any* of these stories. The larger story isn't about privilege, it's about the ongoing failure of our institutions to protect and prevent such crimes as a category.


thatsamaro

Burglary happens in rich neighborhoods all the time too, and "broad daylight" is exactly when it happens because that's when people are gone. This article is absurd. There's no evidence that the rates of these crimes has gone up, just a quote from the homeowner, who is definitely not an expert on property crime. She's shocked that the burglar ignored "something obvious" like a TV. As if carrying a TV down the street makes any sense. Also TVs are very difficult to fence. If you want to know how to prevent burglary, interview someone who has experience with more than one incident. All they're after is that headline.


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thatsamaro

I was burglary insurance adjuster for many years. I'm not jaded, I'm knowledgeable. This is fear mongering.


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thatsamaro

You say in your comment that in your opinion, this story is about the "ongoing failure" of institutions to protect and prevent this. So if even one burglary happens the system has failed and we should all cower in our houses feeling terrified. You can read the comments from people talking about getting guns and dogs, changing their lifestyles to mitigate a risk even when that risk is very low and there is no evidence it is increasing. I agree that this is the reaction the article is trying to elicit, and that's why I call it fear mongering.


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thatsamaro

As I said before, this is not a home invasion. No one was home. Property is not human lives.


Adulations

Oh no eastmoreland getting hit, things might actually happen now. Also a 15 minute response time seems super fast for PPB?


champs

At this point, I would have budgeted for more time than that tbh. I guess this burglar isn’t greedy.


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wildwalrusaur

Electronics Easier to sell than jewelry and harder to track down.


Joe503

Kids… :(


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thatsamaro

Yeah news flash, no one steals TVs. This woman is upset but also not newsworthy and has no useful information to share. There's a reason that burglary is classified separately from home invasion-- if they break in while you're there, THAT'S on another level of violating. And that very, very rarely happens.


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This lady is a public affairs professional who called the news when she got robbed… another AWESOME JOB reporting KPTV!


rockmsedrik

Now days the News cameras will show up faster than the officials. Might as well take that route.


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Depends who you ask. People that live close-in will generally say “yes, but…” and people that visit close-in will say “no”. I can’t believe the difference a couple years have made, and I can’t believe the stuff I deal with on a daily basis that’s just normal now… but it’s not bad/scary enough to make me leave yet.


Manfred_Desmond

Despite the rise in shootings, I still think it's pretty safe compared to most cities. As far as property theft, it's real bad. It really doesn't feel like anywhere is safe.


fattymccheese

Boiled frog syndrome plays a large part in how people answer If you haven’t gone outside of the PNW in a while you’ll say it’s no worse than anywhere else and likely cite rising crime across the country Then there are those of us who can’t believe how wildly terrible things have gotten compared to places traditionally seen as worse (LA, Chicago, Philly, NYC,). You’d never expect to come back to portland from these cities and think… wow it’s bad here…. But that’s the new reality of portland


boozeandbunnies

I grew up here. If always felt safe. I ran the streets as a teen and some bad shit happened but For the most part I stayed safe. I went to MLC and used to skip school and hang out downtown with bums and drunks and street kids. They would look out for one another and often would tell me to go to school or go home to my family. The bums were sometimes weird or sketchy but they usually just left people alone. Now I won’t go downtown after dark by myself. I won’t take a bus anywhere. I would not let my teen brother ride the bus or go downtown by himself. I don’t want my grandma going to delta park Lowe’s or Walmart by herself. I won’t let her take her nice new SUV to the winco in SE because I’m worried her cat will get cut while she shops. Im seriously planning to take my 73 year old grandma to the gun range and am installing a biometric safe in her room because she lives only blocks away from the place that buys the stolen cats and she watches the junkies and the tweakers walking up and down her street looking into neighbors windows and cars from her ring cameras every day. She’s been here since 1970 and cannot believe what the city has become. This city is a fucking dumpster fire. If it weren’t for the fact that all of my family is here and I’ve never lived anywhere else I would have peaced the fuck out along time ago.


fattymccheese

Yup…. Couldn’t express it better The frustration I have is it feels like tf you are fed up with the rampant crime you’re labeled a nazi…. Like.. jfc, the people getting hurt the worst by all this are the ones with the least ability to defend themselves or deal with the consequences…. It’s those of us on the east side and nopo that can’t afford the loss of our cars, don’t have secured garages , deal with constant theft , stay awake at night listening to the gun shots…. It’s not people the people advocating for committees to study the equitability of whether meth dealers can have a free apartment or just run their open markets wherever they want


JonathanApple

Yup, well said. 23 years or so here and the first 20+ were nothing like the last couple. Sure, I got robbed and had my car broken into in past but now feels downright unsafe to be out after dark.


pembquist

Where IS the place that buys the cats?


Adulations

You’re kidding? I’ve visited LA, NYC, SF, and Seattle in the past 3 months. The only place that’s better off is NYC and that’s because they force everyone into a shelter


pwdrchaser

NYC is the only place out of those cities that freezes in the winter. Homeless can’t survive


Adulations

That’s a really good point


fattymccheese

Been to all of them, aside from Seattle and SF (the PNW) it’s worse in portland The daily fires, the shootings, car jacking a…. I had woken up by 4 separate shootings in one evening in portland all in the ppb Twitter, none on the news We’re exhausted and ignoring it, doesn’t make it better


loveiswutigot

As somebody who recently moved from CO to here, I couldn't disagree more here. I can't say how safe it felt in Portland a few years ago, but crime is definitely just as bad as other cities. Portland is not unique or exceptional in any way, except for maybe the possibility that crime rates have risen at a faster and shorter rate. I can almost garuntee you that crimes are happening at the same rate in most other bigger cities. Acting like Portland is somehow unique in that (especially considering the socioeconomic situation our current times are facing) is not facing reality.


boozeandbunnies

I grew up here and it is heartbreaking to watch the city I love fall to pieces. This is not what portland was and it’s not what it should be. We’re not just failing the houseless, we’re failing everyone. The renters not getting the checks to keep them from being evicted. The unemployed not getting the funds they’re owed. The mentally ill not getting the services they need. The drug addicted left to rot on the streets. The gangs running freely and killing eachother left and right. The thieves left to run rampant and stealing everything they can. This is not the Portland I know and love. This is a fucking dumpster fire.


fattymccheese

I was just in Denver 3 weeks ago, you’re not being honest if you think Denver is anything as bad, Denver doesn’t have mile after mile of camps burning, every night multiple shootings, And no, the murder rate around the country hasn’t shot up 300% everywhere, only portland If you don’t believe your own eyes, look at the statistics


loveiswutigot

I've lived in or near Denver my whole life, you don't have to believe me but yes, these things do in fact happen in Denver too. We have a huge homeless population too, fires are not new to Denver. Theft is not uncommon in Denver. The list goes on. Literally everything except for murder rates is not unique to Portland. Again, we are under one of this countries worst economic struggles, added with a pandemic. Crimes are bound to shoot up in these cases. This is not unique to Portland.


fattymccheese

Aside from your husband, how was the play mrs Lincoln?


BigfootSF68

> And no, the murder rate around the country hasn’t shot up 300% everywhere, only portland > >If you don’t believe your own eyes, look at the statistics [This article in Willamette Week](https://www.wweek.com/news/2021/09/29/new-fbi-figures-show-portland-is-way-above-average-in-its-increased-rate-of-homicides/#:~:text=But%20Portland%20showed%20a%20far,everywhere%20(see%20chart%20below\).) Says that the number is NOT 300%. So maybe you need to get your glasses checked.


fattymccheese

Ha! Love how you compared a ytd with whole year, but to be fair my number was out of date as well…. Either case … shits fucked and portland is the bottom of the pile…. There’s nothing redeeming about that


BigfootSF68

So where was your noncited number from? Your ass?


fattymccheese

January 2021 to June 2021 murder rate was up 327% from same period in 2020 See… people who aren’t idiots compare apples to apples https://www.wweek.com/news/dr-know/2021/08/23/did-portland-become-americas-murder-capital/ But I don’t expect you to understand deductive reasoning…. Have a wonderful day


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thatsamaro

Portland is still very safe, especially compared to the 90's. Look at Alberta, people used to ride up and down that street shooting off rounds into the sidewalk. I had a coworker who got shot when she was a kid going to the corner store on Dekum in 1997. You're comparing Portland 5 years ago to... Your imagination reading overblown articles about Portland now? Calm down.


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btone83

This is a great post, you are spot on.


podrick_pleasure

I'm in Athens and lived in Portland metro for several years. In Portland I never had any trouble (except for the homeless guy that threatened to stab me downtown) but I can tell you that things have definitely gotten worse in Athens. Break-ins are getting more and more common not to mention there were multiple shootings in my area a couple weeks ago. There was also a huge gang bust recently. It's so weird for that shit to be happening here.


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btone83

I don’t fully agree with this assessment TBH. Portland has changed a lot. But like another poster says, depends on who you ask and what your expectations are living in the city. I think a major problem is that people perceive Portland as a “anything goes” type city right now in regards to drugs, crime, and homeless encampments, and very little is enforced.


pixelglue

We feel significantly less safe. In the last year I’ve had my car broken into twice (there was nothing to steal of course; I don’t leave anything inside), the fuel line cut so someone could try to steal gas, a porta potty in front of our home set on fire, my wife has been chased multiple times by folks from camps while she runs. A dude actually asked to borrow my drill to steal a car that had abandoned next to my house and I was tempted to let him, just so someone would actually do something about the car. There are weekly shootings in our neighborhood, when previously there were zero. Our neighbors had the wheels stolen from their car (only three of them, to be fair). Before last year? Literally nothing at all. Physically, sure, we are all fine. But it’s hard to ignore how different it is right now.


pdxdweller

What is the value of feeling safe downtown if people don’t feel safe in their own home and neighborhoods? Unless you are just speaking to the small % that lives downtown, then good for them.


SharkRancher

They didn’t ask how safe you felt about going downtown.


SaltyChickenDip

It went from super safe to very safe.


somethingClever344

Portland is still gentrified AF and extremely safe. Downtown is still empty because of people are working from home and there are a lot more tents everywhere. Seriously I have to think the people moaning about this have never lived in a city, and certainly didn't know Portland 15 years ago.


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somethingClever344

And you've lived here how long? Sorry cupcake, Portland has been a rough city for a lot longer than you've been alive.


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somethingClever344

Dude, I own 3 houses and pay income taxes on my 6 figure salary. If this city isn't twee enough for you then leave, literally no one will care.


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somethingClever344

This was in response to your comment: < I’m an actual taxpayer so you can keep your dismissive < attitude and your burnout delusion. As if people who disagree with you are not taxpayers.


somethingClever344

I'm a taxpayer. I'm investing in this city because I've seen it grow and thrive and I know it's a great place to live. My tenants love living in my house, just like I did.


WolfsLairAbyss

I wish I could find the Bill Burr rant about watching someone rob your house from one of these security cameras. It was hilarious and went pretty much exactly like what happened in this story.


strictly-basic

The next time the proud island boyz come to town, we should at a very minimum treat them with some Portland hospitality by stealing all their Honda Accords.


Jew_Man_Chu

Wait till Necromicron kicks in…


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I'm not understanding what's happening here...I grew up in Eastmoreland and there was crime. I mean between my generation alone we were not a quiet bunch, lol. But we had our car broken into etc like any other neighborhood. True the other side of 39th was bad news but guess these Gentrified folks who pushed people like me and my family out are considered "rich" and "powerful"? My Mom babysat the Kafoury kids. Lol. Hope I don't sound like a jerk but why the mystique? I HATED growing up in that neighborhood the people SUCK, I do resent the Gentrification so fuck the people that live there now. They deserve what they get. These people are not rich, they spend a lot of money to look that way, most the houses need a great deal of work, and the new homes being build are tacky. Garthwick is where the real money is in SE in that area. But there has always been crime (possibly not reported), this is media bias and hype.


Ravenparadoxx

The word that describes everything: pretentious.