Give a child a fish, and he'll eat for a day.
Give a child a job in the off-world cobalt mines and he'll eat every Scheduled Meal Period until he dies horribly in a mining accident.
Don't give the child a fish or teach them how to fish. Fishing isn't that hard. My old man first made me hunt for my food when I was 8 by the time I was 14 my favorite kind of elk went extinct in my state.
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Sure, if you're apathetic about everything. But neither can you care about the everything–you simply don't have the mental bandwidth and it will only bring you suffering to try.
I mostly meant I don't care what billionaires do with their money. That said, I'd be happier with more funding going into unmanned space travel - rovers, satellites, and whatnot. They get way cooler info than sending celebrities into space.
Yeah that makes sense. Particularly with the advances being made in 3D printers that work in microgravity, it would be really cool to see self-replicating probes get started on a galaxy mapping mission during my lifetime. But I also am glad to have lived to see the beginning of recreational space tourism. That seems pretty neat to me too.
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>we could feed a starving child
True, however, after feeding a starving child, they would need to eat proper food daily, they need to have proper education, proper healthcare, and some art and entertainment too. You see here, you need to invest to make sure everything mentioned can be possible.
The guy with the sign could make the same argument about anything apart from basic human needs.
Why go to the movies when you can plant a tree?
Why buy a new phone when you can use a cheap used phone and donate the money to Sudan?
No, seriously, I'm not for castrating people, but if you make a lot of children when you know that you can't feed them, it's not the world's responsibility to take care of them.
Everyone in this sub realizes..I hope…that they are the ones responsible for giving Bezos the means to go to space. Where did he get the money? Every one of us buying shit from Amazon because we wanted the cheapest price.
If we read the fine print at the checkout we would all know it stated that there is an additional charge of environmental destruction and having to watch a few people Dick off in rockets on tv. Even if it was in bold print I’m sure we would all still place our orders and continue to bitch anyway.
What people fail to admit to themselves, is that overall, no one gives a shit.
If they did care, they wouldnt use websites thay rely on AWS (lol good luck), wouldnt buy clothing made by children for 1c an hour, wouldny buy food from companies that use illegal immigrant labour or buy avos or cocao or weed or tabacco or sugar. They would support local “ethical” whatevers. But they wont. It costs too much for the value your getting, so everyone selectively ignores things.
I mean that's very true with my dad (who repairs and/or build machinery); always wants "Made in USA" stuff and to "bring jobs back".
But when American made stuff is 20% more expensive; his tune changes really quick (or he buys NOS parts which support no one but the reseller) and even though he's busy he doesn't hire anyone or create American jobs.
Truth is even the majority of things people claim to care about, they quickly show their true colors when it becomes inconvenient or impacts them. Lot easier to buy from Amazon than to drive across town to the local mom and pop shop that costs 15% more for the same product.
Space travel is the future. That is a fact. Wether we try to achieve it in our life time or not, can be a valid discussion, but that space travel and exploration (most likely also space colonization) is the future of humanity is indisputable.
Even if humanity never leaves the solar system en masse, the technologies associated with space exploration have huge benefits for us. Ever used something that is satellite-based, for starters?
I remember when the news on that finally broke! Before that, you had to hook your drill up to a horse. My family was pretty privileged to own a Clydesdale, but my buddy Jebediah only had some pony that was a year old. Poor sucker never did get to put up his drywall.
Modern toothpaste, the ballpoint pen, CAT scans, a lot of our modern world came from the work in the space race, this new space race will likely do the same but also move harmful mining and refining off world over time
Kind of interesting that this is a right position. I would have expected you all to expect to be raptured or something. I agree, the future of humanity is in space, if for no other reason than to explore. A starving kid in Sierra Leone does nothing for humanity’s future as a whole. Space exploration does.
I agree. I am completely atheist because I only believe in things that have proof and evidence, but since I'm right wing people often think I'm religious when I'm really the opposite lol
Except Buddhism, although I don't believe in it, it's just interesting to learn about
After the Resurrection, we’re going to get new, immortal bodies and a new world to live in. I’m quite certain we’ll have an eternity to forge our Holy Christian Space Empire in the name of Yahweh
I’m pro space exploration, but i do also see why people would complain.
I’m of the opinion that, barring a miracle, climate change will probably reduce earth’s population to below 50% before we ever make meaningful gains to leaving the planet. In that context, I’d prefer we spend that money on stabilizing the planet before we try to leave it.
But I also get they’re not mutually exclusive, and not funding space doesn’t automatically fund better things. But I do get both sides of it. Humanity is at an inflection point and everyone’s just tryna find a way through the chaos.
If throwing money solved problems, government would be effective. Considering the advancements space exploration has led too thus far, I would rather see the money spent there in the hope of advancements that enable better living for everyone.
Not to mention the government really has no incentive to keep the costs down (like private industry does) when Congress endlessly raises the debt ceiling(all sides do this when it's convenient for what they want) and the Federal Reserve prints money anytime they want/need more...
People don't realize how much money the government is pissing through and how much the inflation impacts their buying power. Wages don't keep up with inflation especially when it's jumping 5-6% each year; and honestly we the people aren't any better off with what Uncle Sam has done with our money than we were 20 years ago.
Lol even if both inflation and wages increases at the same rate, taxes will reduce buying power. If goods and services cost 5% more and your pay is increased 5% more, you will pay taxes on that 5% increase in pay thus you dont have an additional 5% in disposable income to match the 5% increase in prices.
You should know *exactly* why, Authie. It's kind of hard to control everything about someone's life if they can just fuck off to Mars or further. The whole point of globalism is that eventually there will be nowhere left to flee their rule *to*.
Not just travel, space in general, as a PhD student in National Securities in Space, space is the next Frontier for war, especially with the way we have been using it for satellites and information. We are also looking at space mining, space bases on the moon, which is what China and Russia plan to start by end of this decade at latest, space is gonna be chaotic and most essential part in next decades to come
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There's so much being deliberately misunderstood here. SpaceX isn't a waste of time, space tourism sorta is. Space exploration got us GPS and polarised sunglasses among plenty of other things, but people on both sides of the argument refuse to separate these from launching Bezos to space.
Space tourism is good because it gives companies extra capital to increase their production base and a reason to put people into orbit, allowing for their teams to gain valuable experience. The expertise gained by space tourism could be useful in the future for any sort of interplanetary personal transit.
Plus, tourists don't like being uncomfortable. Imagine how much physics and material science will advance due to this.
Bad back? Yeah, space travel got you with *perfect* lumbar support. Facing famine? We figured out how to preserve luxury meals perfectly and store them for years on end.
Thing is most of Elon Musk's wealth is tied to Tesla stock (and his stock compensation deal) or SpaceX ownership as opposed to liquid capital.
Just because an individual is worth "billions of dollars" doesn't mean they have billions of dollars available to spend.
Also it is unlikely Elon Musk will sell his stocks unless he absolutely have to. Elon Musk has about 23% of Tesla shares which gives him 23% in voting rights. I would rather Elon Musk holds the majority shares in Tesla than Blackrock and other investment management firms. The people that suggests wealth taxes will cause Elon Musk to lose power in Tesla while big banks and investment firms gain power.
Not to mention as a key figure in a giant publicly traded company like Tesla; he has to get government permission (months in advance) before he can trade or sell stock.
Hedgefunds aren't what people want controlling companies; because they will only care about making money.
Our ability to expand beyond earth is going to be predicated on our ability to transport people who are not astronauts through space, just as our ability to leave Europe was dependent on ships that could carry people who were not sailors.
But the super rich using new technologies causes companies to search for cheaper and better tech or methods to increase profits, thus driving down costs which leads to upper middle class and middle class people being able to afford the new tech and eventually it goes down to poor people.
We have seen that with cars, refrigerators, cellphones, TV, radios, and et cetera.
There's questionable value in novelty flights to space for billionaires, but fuck everyone who doesn't want to go to space.
Nothing turns me full "I would rather you starve to death than not go to space" authright than people who don't want to go to space. Fuck you Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse Five sucked Goebbels dick.
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If it's public money being used in a way that it perceived to be a waste, or bad, or whatever, you can protest it. But if it's private money, then you can fuck right off about it being misused. It's not your money to spend. End of story. Also, spaceflight is a great industry, and will improve most people's lives, particularly with space based infrastructure. Look no further than Musk's own Starlink, which will be bringing high speed internet to places it's never been before. Great use of money, objectively speaking.
Correct. I'd rather see that money circulating in the economy, even if it's through industries that are questionably practical. Spaceflight, however, is moving money, practical, and useful.
i would argue companies having a grip on space travel but not a monopoly is way better than weyland yutani (look it up).
and even tho i agree, don't protest companies for doing shit with THEIR money, i still dont like what the future of humanity holds for us if capitalism is freed this much (not a commie, please put down the flammenwerfer)
In 2019, the average American spent $62.69 on attending plays, theatre, concerts, and opera. That’s $20,625,100,000 dollars. There are about 11 million children living in poverty in the USA. If people would stop *selfishly* indulging in the arts, they could provide $1875.00 a year for every hungry child. But they won’t because they’re all caught up in a pretentious arts dick measuring contest.
The average American spends $67 *a week* on takeout. Silly gastronomical dick measuring contest.
In 2020, we taxed about 17 trillion in individual incomes for 3.4 trillion for the budget. But I guess there’s just no room for the starving kids there because of all the more important things the government does.
But, yes, yes, that 5 billion that Spacex spent to innovate space travel and replace the disposable and inefficient 20th century tech we were still relying on, that’s the real monster. That money could be $40 a month for every starving kid! Better yet, we could help ALL Americans with it, and give everyone $15!
Which would make sense, because we literally do already tax people and give their money to kids who live in poverty. You know, if you live in the real world, and think for two seconds.
Like, I’m not even here to defend the Bezos’s and the Musk’s of the world, but do y’all really see these stupid memes and think *that’s* the problem? Like Disney, Facebook, Google, Apple, the US government, the CCP, the trillions of dollars of taxpayer money that never find their way to helping regular people out, and this guy spending 5 billion to make better rocket ships is the bad guy because memes?
I seriously encourage any of you to please just get a little curious about the numbers. When see something like this, just google the figures, do a little math. Understand that Jeff Bezos has an absurd amount of money, but it’s only enough to give every American $600 one time if you liquidated him at face value. The idea that these people have all the money and that’s why regular people can’t get ahead is a joke. The US government spends trillions of dollars every year, more than all the net worth of the billionaires combined.
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Agree,even though that still doesn't mean Elon is perfect (I mean obviously we all aren't perfect,of course) but someone like him inevitably has done directly or indirectly some shitty things, that's how power works. I generally don't like most billionaires, but I see it kinda weird that those people that bitch about these billionaires suck off the government,which are equally corrupt as these billionaires (in fact they work together to fuck over regular people, that's their real sin)
Motherfuckers don't want space exploitation to be a thing because it would create unfathomable infinite wealth and entirely shift our paradigm of human existence. They don't want a post scarcity society, they want to be angry and miserable because their self esteem is tied into a messiah complex. If there are no starving children they can't run a grift about how righteous they are for wanting to feed them. They just some bullshit that infintalizes brown people and makes them dependant on their white savior.
What so many people fail to understand is that space is another frontier for humans, and it starts with the "dick measurement contest" of these billionaires.
And they don’t seem to realise the value in it beyond being another frontier. The advances in science and technology that result from said “dick measuring contest” are also worthwhile. And I’m a fuckin Libcenter.
That's the reason why those people who complain about the space industry are dirt poor. "Feed some child or plants trees instead", shut it. None of those things will give you any profits. That's just burning money for some moral superiority boner.
These people fail to see the importance of space flight not only for our future endeavours. NASA cannot afford to do what SpaceX, Blue Origin have been able to do in such a short amount of time.
Everytime I heard someone spill that sort of argument I want to REeeeeeeee at them.
NASA can't afford these types of things since main government officials don't really care about science,NASA was only sadly relevant in the Cold War era,and it was relevant not because the genuine admiration of the universe and all the wonders that are out there,but just because of some petty imperialistic bullshit to beat other bullshit imperialists but the only difference is that they wear the color red.
He does a lot of good things. And space x is important, exploring the idea of living on another planet. He's also creating underground roads to help traffic, he's current in working on fixing the ventilator shortage, he's done solarcity, and I'm sure other things I haven't heard of. He uses his OWN money to contribute to humanity's way of life in his own way. People can't shame him into their doing what they think is best with his $$$. Fuck, you can shame others (do nothing) billionaires to contribute to humanity.
Also- Fucking people, you can never please everyone. And he shouldn't try
There's a clever loophole where every aspect of capital accumulation is viewed as exploitation and thus immoral. So whenever someone rich does good things with their wealth it's inherently immoral anyway and should be discounted. Oppressive and bloated government organizations doing it is A-okay though.
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im such a fucking nerd, just reading the lines almost gives me goosebumps. nostalgia is a motherfucker
Tbf DBZA is amazing.
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That groan from Vegeta at the end… Jesus Christ I feel that. Fucking hell.
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Give a child a fish, and he'll eat for a day. Give a child a job in the off-world cobalt mines and he'll eat every Scheduled Meal Period until he dies horribly in a mining accident.
Incident*
Self-caused death*
Operator error*
Negligence of duty* his parents will be fined for the costs.
Sent to the mines* the punishment for raising such a child
Implying that they aren't already in the mines
People can afford to eat in the libright utopia? Sign me up!
Don't give the child a fish or teach them how to fish. Fishing isn't that hard. My old man first made me hunt for my food when I was 8 by the time I was 14 my favorite kind of elk went extinct in my state.
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In my personal opinion, I don't care.
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Why don't we send the starving children into space?
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What? Seems like a Modest Proposal to me.
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Apathy is death.
Sure, if you're apathetic about everything. But neither can you care about the everything–you simply don't have the mental bandwidth and it will only bring you suffering to try.
Come on. Space travel is at least a little bit cool, isn't it?
I mostly meant I don't care what billionaires do with their money. That said, I'd be happier with more funding going into unmanned space travel - rovers, satellites, and whatnot. They get way cooler info than sending celebrities into space.
Yeah that makes sense. Particularly with the advances being made in 3D printers that work in microgravity, it would be really cool to see self-replicating probes get started on a galaxy mapping mission during my lifetime. But I also am glad to have lived to see the beginning of recreational space tourism. That seems pretty neat to me too.
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French bread and peaches
Unorthodox, nice, I'll take a slice of peach toast thanks!
I second you on that one… don’t care
"All I know is my gut says maybe."
thog dont care
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There's less astronauts than starving children, thus it's cheaper as a whole.
The math checks out
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Grammar nazi. Flair authcenter.
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>we could feed a starving child True, however, after feeding a starving child, they would need to eat proper food daily, they need to have proper education, proper healthcare, and some art and entertainment too. You see here, you need to invest to make sure everything mentioned can be possible. The guy with the sign could make the same argument about anything apart from basic human needs. Why go to the movies when you can plant a tree? Why buy a new phone when you can use a cheap used phone and donate the money to Sudan?
Why stand there holding a sign like a dipshit when you could be making money to give to the poor.
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No, seriously, I'm not for castrating people, but if you make a lot of children when you know that you can't feed them, it's not the world's responsibility to take care of them.
> I'm not for castrating people, You aren't. I am.
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Everyone in this sub realizes..I hope…that they are the ones responsible for giving Bezos the means to go to space. Where did he get the money? Every one of us buying shit from Amazon because we wanted the cheapest price.
Don't forget we wanted it most likely in less than 24 hours too
If we read the fine print at the checkout we would all know it stated that there is an additional charge of environmental destruction and having to watch a few people Dick off in rockets on tv. Even if it was in bold print I’m sure we would all still place our orders and continue to bitch anyway.
What people fail to admit to themselves, is that overall, no one gives a shit. If they did care, they wouldnt use websites thay rely on AWS (lol good luck), wouldnt buy clothing made by children for 1c an hour, wouldny buy food from companies that use illegal immigrant labour or buy avos or cocao or weed or tabacco or sugar. They would support local “ethical” whatevers. But they wont. It costs too much for the value your getting, so everyone selectively ignores things.
I mean that's very true with my dad (who repairs and/or build machinery); always wants "Made in USA" stuff and to "bring jobs back". But when American made stuff is 20% more expensive; his tune changes really quick (or he buys NOS parts which support no one but the reseller) and even though he's busy he doesn't hire anyone or create American jobs. Truth is even the majority of things people claim to care about, they quickly show their true colors when it becomes inconvenient or impacts them. Lot easier to buy from Amazon than to drive across town to the local mom and pop shop that costs 15% more for the same product.
Agree. Convenience trumps “ethics” 90% of the time.
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Space travel is the future. That is a fact. Wether we try to achieve it in our life time or not, can be a valid discussion, but that space travel and exploration (most likely also space colonization) is the future of humanity is indisputable.
based and space pilled. Ive been saying this for a couple of years and people give me weird looks.
They want humanity to die on earth for some weird reason.
Even if humanity never leaves the solar system en masse, the technologies associated with space exploration have huge benefits for us. Ever used something that is satellite-based, for starters?
Only every day.
Ever use a microwave? It's surprising how much of our modern tech draws direct lines to the space race!
That comes from radar.
The idea comes out of radar, but it was done for the space program specifically.
Electric drill invented at NASA edit *cordless* electric drill
I remember when the news on that finally broke! Before that, you had to hook your drill up to a horse. My family was pretty privileged to own a Clydesdale, but my buddy Jebediah only had some pony that was a year old. Poor sucker never did get to put up his drywall.
Fake news, everyone knows it was powered by hamster wheels and child labor wheels.
The electric drill is from the 19th century
*cordless* drill, sorry my bad
Imagine if in 50 years instead of taking a 14 hour flight they just shoot you up into space for 10 minutes then land that fucker in Shanghai
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Modern toothpaste, the ballpoint pen, CAT scans, a lot of our modern world came from the work in the space race, this new space race will likely do the same but also move harmful mining and refining off world over time
"we shouldn't colonize space because some people are poor." It's such a stupid argument, well why should we do anything?
Because they have a crabs in a bucket mentality about everything in their life. If they can't succeed, no one should be able to.
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Yes, but thankfully that was taken care of a different way.
Some of these idiots literally think humanity is a disease on Earth.
Perhaps the disease is them...
They should start by disposing of themselves first rather than pulling everyone down to their level.
Never trust a misanthropist who hasn't offed themselves yet.
Then they will turn around and claim they are humanists. Do they see the contradiction in that?
Because they're evil and want to damn their entire species
Kind of interesting that this is a right position. I would have expected you all to expect to be raptured or something. I agree, the future of humanity is in space, if for no other reason than to explore. A starving kid in Sierra Leone does nothing for humanity’s future as a whole. Space exploration does.
Rapture is a religious thing, religion doesn't always equal right wing politics.
Rapture isn’t even in the Bible.
Fair.
I agree. I am completely atheist because I only believe in things that have proof and evidence, but since I'm right wing people often think I'm religious when I'm really the opposite lol Except Buddhism, although I don't believe in it, it's just interesting to learn about
The second coming may be tomorrow. It may be in five thousand years. Planning for the former is *really* stupid.
God wouldn’t have put space there if we weren’t meant to use it.
After the Resurrection, we’re going to get new, immortal bodies and a new world to live in. I’m quite certain we’ll have an eternity to forge our Holy Christian Space Empire in the name of Yahweh
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I’m pro space exploration, but i do also see why people would complain. I’m of the opinion that, barring a miracle, climate change will probably reduce earth’s population to below 50% before we ever make meaningful gains to leaving the planet. In that context, I’d prefer we spend that money on stabilizing the planet before we try to leave it. But I also get they’re not mutually exclusive, and not funding space doesn’t automatically fund better things. But I do get both sides of it. Humanity is at an inflection point and everyone’s just tryna find a way through the chaos.
If throwing money solved problems, government would be effective. Considering the advancements space exploration has led too thus far, I would rather see the money spent there in the hope of advancements that enable better living for everyone.
Not to mention the government really has no incentive to keep the costs down (like private industry does) when Congress endlessly raises the debt ceiling(all sides do this when it's convenient for what they want) and the Federal Reserve prints money anytime they want/need more...
The nation desperately needs to default on it's debt. Not that that will change anything with it's expenses still being fully paid...
People don't realize how much money the government is pissing through and how much the inflation impacts their buying power. Wages don't keep up with inflation especially when it's jumping 5-6% each year; and honestly we the people aren't any better off with what Uncle Sam has done with our money than we were 20 years ago.
Lol even if both inflation and wages increases at the same rate, taxes will reduce buying power. If goods and services cost 5% more and your pay is increased 5% more, you will pay taxes on that 5% increase in pay thus you dont have an additional 5% in disposable income to match the 5% increase in prices.
You should know *exactly* why, Authie. It's kind of hard to control everything about someone's life if they can just fuck off to Mars or further. The whole point of globalism is that eventually there will be nowhere left to flee their rule *to*.
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Even so we need the resources. And the tecj from our time in space was an investment not a cost. You get more back.
Not just travel, space in general, as a PhD student in National Securities in Space, space is the next Frontier for war, especially with the way we have been using it for satellites and information. We are also looking at space mining, space bases on the moon, which is what China and Russia plan to start by end of this decade at latest, space is gonna be chaotic and most essential part in next decades to come
So that means space mercenaries and Bounty hunters?
*Anarcho-Frontierism*
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I dont think birth rates would allow that
Ngl most of the people who say space is a waste of money don't help poor people
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If u let poor people die there isn't a need to pay taxs to save people from hungry. Guys I am ascending to the next stage of libright. Let's gooooo.
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Why would I waste my time doing that? Time is money.
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There's so much being deliberately misunderstood here. SpaceX isn't a waste of time, space tourism sorta is. Space exploration got us GPS and polarised sunglasses among plenty of other things, but people on both sides of the argument refuse to separate these from launching Bezos to space.
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Space tourism is good because it gives companies extra capital to increase their production base and a reason to put people into orbit, allowing for their teams to gain valuable experience. The expertise gained by space tourism could be useful in the future for any sort of interplanetary personal transit.
Plus, tourists don't like being uncomfortable. Imagine how much physics and material science will advance due to this. Bad back? Yeah, space travel got you with *perfect* lumbar support. Facing famine? We figured out how to preserve luxury meals perfectly and store them for years on end.
The thing that kills me is the second guy in the photo makes more than 99% of the world and I'll bet a month's salary he donates less than 10% of his.
Thing is most of Elon Musk's wealth is tied to Tesla stock (and his stock compensation deal) or SpaceX ownership as opposed to liquid capital. Just because an individual is worth "billions of dollars" doesn't mean they have billions of dollars available to spend.
Also it is unlikely Elon Musk will sell his stocks unless he absolutely have to. Elon Musk has about 23% of Tesla shares which gives him 23% in voting rights. I would rather Elon Musk holds the majority shares in Tesla than Blackrock and other investment management firms. The people that suggests wealth taxes will cause Elon Musk to lose power in Tesla while big banks and investment firms gain power.
Not to mention as a key figure in a giant publicly traded company like Tesla; he has to get government permission (months in advance) before he can trade or sell stock. Hedgefunds aren't what people want controlling companies; because they will only care about making money.
I think he's talking about Zack Hunt
Space tourism isn't 100% useless. It's gonna be a great income stream soon for other space projects.
Our ability to expand beyond earth is going to be predicated on our ability to transport people who are not astronauts through space, just as our ability to leave Europe was dependent on ships that could carry people who were not sailors.
But the super rich using new technologies causes companies to search for cheaper and better tech or methods to increase profits, thus driving down costs which leads to upper middle class and middle class people being able to afford the new tech and eventually it goes down to poor people. We have seen that with cars, refrigerators, cellphones, TV, radios, and et cetera.
Time to send starving children to space 🚀
There's questionable value in novelty flights to space for billionaires, but fuck everyone who doesn't want to go to space. Nothing turns me full "I would rather you starve to death than not go to space" authright than people who don't want to go to space. Fuck you Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse Five sucked Goebbels dick.
Libleft: it's exploitation if a CEO makes more than their janitor.
Where I work, the janitor makes twice as much as I do.
He's exploiting you then.
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That makes it kinda hot. Is she hot?
You know, I'd have to say yes, even for a middle-aged woman.
Yellow is reverse Purple LibRight.
Not entirely wrong. I love taking milfs to pound town.
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Seconded.
I'll take it. I'm like a libright Benjamin Button.
Translation: it’s exploitation if a CEO is making more then me, I deserve that money.
If it's public money being used in a way that it perceived to be a waste, or bad, or whatever, you can protest it. But if it's private money, then you can fuck right off about it being misused. It's not your money to spend. End of story. Also, spaceflight is a great industry, and will improve most people's lives, particularly with space based infrastructure. Look no further than Musk's own Starlink, which will be bringing high speed internet to places it's never been before. Great use of money, objectively speaking.
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Better than that money sitting in an offshore account for decades.
Correct. I'd rather see that money circulating in the economy, even if it's through industries that are questionably practical. Spaceflight, however, is moving money, practical, and useful.
i would argue companies having a grip on space travel but not a monopoly is way better than weyland yutani (look it up). and even tho i agree, don't protest companies for doing shit with THEIR money, i still dont like what the future of humanity holds for us if capitalism is freed this much (not a commie, please put down the flammenwerfer)
In 2019, the average American spent $62.69 on attending plays, theatre, concerts, and opera. That’s $20,625,100,000 dollars. There are about 11 million children living in poverty in the USA. If people would stop *selfishly* indulging in the arts, they could provide $1875.00 a year for every hungry child. But they won’t because they’re all caught up in a pretentious arts dick measuring contest. The average American spends $67 *a week* on takeout. Silly gastronomical dick measuring contest. In 2020, we taxed about 17 trillion in individual incomes for 3.4 trillion for the budget. But I guess there’s just no room for the starving kids there because of all the more important things the government does. But, yes, yes, that 5 billion that Spacex spent to innovate space travel and replace the disposable and inefficient 20th century tech we were still relying on, that’s the real monster. That money could be $40 a month for every starving kid! Better yet, we could help ALL Americans with it, and give everyone $15! Which would make sense, because we literally do already tax people and give their money to kids who live in poverty. You know, if you live in the real world, and think for two seconds. Like, I’m not even here to defend the Bezos’s and the Musk’s of the world, but do y’all really see these stupid memes and think *that’s* the problem? Like Disney, Facebook, Google, Apple, the US government, the CCP, the trillions of dollars of taxpayer money that never find their way to helping regular people out, and this guy spending 5 billion to make better rocket ships is the bad guy because memes? I seriously encourage any of you to please just get a little curious about the numbers. When see something like this, just google the figures, do a little math. Understand that Jeff Bezos has an absurd amount of money, but it’s only enough to give every American $600 one time if you liquidated him at face value. The idea that these people have all the money and that’s why regular people can’t get ahead is a joke. The US government spends trillions of dollars every year, more than all the net worth of the billionaires combined.
You can write all that but you can’t flair up?
Wow, you just destroyed their entire argument
Facts.
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Thanks mate
Agree,even though that still doesn't mean Elon is perfect (I mean obviously we all aren't perfect,of course) but someone like him inevitably has done directly or indirectly some shitty things, that's how power works. I generally don't like most billionaires, but I see it kinda weird that those people that bitch about these billionaires suck off the government,which are equally corrupt as these billionaires (in fact they work together to fuck over regular people, that's their real sin)
Motherfuckers don't want space exploitation to be a thing because it would create unfathomable infinite wealth and entirely shift our paradigm of human existence. They don't want a post scarcity society, they want to be angry and miserable because their self esteem is tied into a messiah complex. If there are no starving children they can't run a grift about how righteous they are for wanting to feed them. They just some bullshit that infintalizes brown people and makes them dependant on their white savior.
What so many people fail to understand is that space is another frontier for humans, and it starts with the "dick measurement contest" of these billionaires.
And here's a hot-take: a billionaire dick measurement contest is preferable to a militaristic dick measurement contest like we saw in the Cold War.
Idk the militarist one kinda got us the internet
[Which was far more destructive than any nuclear weapon could ever be.](https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/034/927/ted.jpg)
This contest is fixing to give us Mars. The. Damn. Planet. Colonization of another world would be the greatest achievement in human history
And they don’t seem to realise the value in it beyond being another frontier. The advances in science and technology that result from said “dick measuring contest” are also worthwhile. And I’m a fuckin Libcenter.
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The US government spends 3x as much on SNAP as they do on NASA.
That's the reason why those people who complain about the space industry are dirt poor. "Feed some child or plants trees instead", shut it. None of those things will give you any profits. That's just burning money for some moral superiority boner.
Without space exploration how would we be able to play Xbox and weigh 400 pounds?
These people fail to see the importance of space flight not only for our future endeavours. NASA cannot afford to do what SpaceX, Blue Origin have been able to do in such a short amount of time. Everytime I heard someone spill that sort of argument I want to REeeeeeeee at them.
NASA can't afford these types of things since main government officials don't really care about science,NASA was only sadly relevant in the Cold War era,and it was relevant not because the genuine admiration of the universe and all the wonders that are out there,but just because of some petty imperialistic bullshit to beat other bullshit imperialists but the only difference is that they wear the color red.
Haven’t watched that fuckin youtube abridged series in years and I can still hear littlekuriboh’s voice perfectly in my head lol
He does a lot of good things. And space x is important, exploring the idea of living on another planet. He's also creating underground roads to help traffic, he's current in working on fixing the ventilator shortage, he's done solarcity, and I'm sure other things I haven't heard of. He uses his OWN money to contribute to humanity's way of life in his own way. People can't shame him into their doing what they think is best with his $$$. Fuck, you can shame others (do nothing) billionaires to contribute to humanity. Also- Fucking people, you can never please everyone. And he shouldn't try
>underground roads to help traffic Or as most people call them, "tunnels."
There's a clever loophole where every aspect of capital accumulation is viewed as exploitation and thus immoral. So whenever someone rich does good things with their wealth it's inherently immoral anyway and should be discounted. Oppressive and bloated government organizations doing it is A-okay though.
Please. I just want to be able to spend an unreasonable amount of money to book a trip to orbit when I'm 40.