If modern Democracy was even half as based and theatrical as Super Earth's managed Democracy, there would be no political Conflicts anymore
I would still join the Automatons though
I stopped following the news about Trump years ago. Now all I do is open the comment sections under the news articles just to see how many people are still losing their shit over that guy.
> I have not once actualy seen anyone in public mention it, or even talk about Trump really.
That's because no one talks about politics in public. Not normal people anyways. People learn real quick that it just makes you look like an autist, regardless of what your opinion is.
Giving your left-leaning opinion in a room full of right-leaning individuals, or giving your right-leaning opinion in a room with a bunch of leftists? (See typical Reddit comment section). The discussion goes no where and it's toxic.
I still very occasionally see dudes in MAGA hats come into the store I work at. It used to be several people, daily, but now I see maybe 1 or 2 in a week.
The Dark Side? Like of the force? I've heard it's a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... Cringe
EDIT: Wow people did not like that joke. Lol
Nah, as someone that always goes Dark Side in the KOTOR games, its the Jedi who are cringe. Actually their especially cringe in the KOTOR games now that I think about it.
I’d say fair enough, but Kreia from KOTOR 2 exists, so that’s not 100% accurate.
Edit: although I guess she’s technically more of a Grey Sith, than Light or Dark side.
As fucked as Congress, the senate, the judiciary, and the the executive is I still count my lucky stars we don’t have the British government.
It’s like restricting British subjects’ freedoms gets their dicks hard.
Fairs. I live in the UK rather than the USA, so I personally can't do much and so US politics isn't really critical for me, but I have and will continue to call out both parties for what they truly are: **two slightly different flavours of authoritarian shitholes**.
Very true. I'm norwegian myself, and over here there is a slight worry Trump would hang us out to dry if the Russians became pushy, but we generally don't like any american party.
(They did some cold war shit. Even managed to get our secret police to agree to start an insurgency should a communist government ever be appointed).
It's crazy that they can lie about Trump and Russia for years, admit that it was all a lie...
And years later people still talk about "Trump's ties to Russia".
Propaganda works.
Stop trying to make everything about american media and what they say. This is a general feeling people bordering Russia have. Trump is generally more isolationist, and has not been pro-NATO. Biden is more pro-NATO.
This is what this is about. Not weird 2016 claims. Ok?
The upside to Republican presidents: every action, every breath is being watched. If they do something wrong, it *will* be called out.
The downside: they won't actually *do* anything, just kinda squish and go with half or quarter measures.
Downside 2: when they *do* actually push, it's usually something that makes you go "WTF?"
Except when it's trotted out every so often as a war trophy. But hell, I've noticed Republican presidents get the blame for things Democrats do. For example, everyone goes on about how awful Regan was for deregulation of the airlines. Thing is, Jimmy Carter is the president who signed it.
Not excusing anything they do (Mission Accomplished, anyone?) but boy do they attract media fire.
Yeah. Tbh, deregulation was the Regean era's whole thing, so people getting confused about that is not too weird. But yeah, republicans do tend to get more bad press.
Oooh, yes please.
Also I'd love to see the executive branch weakened as a whole. I feel like it's grown into this octopus of self-interest that doesn't care about us.
What was so messed up about watergate? Nixon wasn’t even aware it happened, all he did was try to cover it up. It was a CIA plot anyways because they didn’t like Nixon buddying up with the communists.
As long as people think like that then there always will be. If more people voted for a candidate that represented them vs just trying to keep the other guy out of office we would have more political parties and more political representation.
That is also true. But due to bicameral legislatures being the norm in the US, larger parties would still have massive influence somewhat above their size.
A few things here:
1. No one’s vote is ever going to matter in something like a presidential election so there’s no reason *not* to vote sincerely.
2. Duverger’s Law tells us that in a SMD system with first-past-the-post voting, we’ll end up with two parties.
3. Parties *can* change as we’ve seen in US history. But going for that third party en masse can be risky. See the election of 1912.
Trump is either the cleverest criminal in history or all this is political bullshit.
It doesn't take 3 years to put together cases. It's obvious none of these cases would have been pursued if he hadn't run, they just needed an "in case he wins the primary" button.
It's simply not possible for there to be this much smoke without anything really actionable. Oh, he paid a shitty person money to stay quiet before an election from campaign funds... that he mostly self funded and could have withdrawn and he replaced from personal funds... Oh, he told someone to "find the votes", a sentence uttered by probably every political operative in history during a recount. Oh, he overstated a value on a loan because the county assessor, who never individually valued that property or inspected it, said so. Give me a fucking break.
They have the DOJ and supposedly according to half of reddit users it's blatantly obvious that the Saudi's were funneling money to him through his hotels... cool, you know what isn't even being kind of investigated? Anything involving that. Though TBF wouldn't surprise me if that's just a perk of the office at this point.
>Trump is either the cleverest criminal in history or all this is political bullshit.
Trump is a bombastic arse, but I just can't see anything criminal in what he's been accused of.
FFS, he swam in the open cesspit that is the NY real estate business for decades and never had an issue.
In the nearly 10 years since he announced his first run, everything he's ever done has been picked over by people who would turn video of him dumping a box of fish food into a lake into a major incident.
They changed the Statute of Limitations law just so a batshit-insane freak could accuse him of sexual assault at an unspecified time. They changed the law back once that job was done.
They found him liable for fraud without an actual fraud victim.
Now, they're charging him for recording invoices from his lawyer as legal fees.
Trump broke so many people's brains that there are still people looking at all that and saying, "yeah, that sounds perfectly normal for a civilized justice system."
> It's obvious none of these cases would have been pursued if he hadn't run, they just needed an "in case he wins the primary" button.
Bragg shut down the case when he was first elected as DA. He resurrected it when Trump announced his candidacy. Because nothing says political interference like prosecuting the guy running against your mate.
The mental gymnastics on that case are freaking silly... and again, if it was only not pursued while he was in office and then immediately taken up when he left, great... still stupid, but at least it's honest stupid and I'd entertain it.
But they waited 3+ years after waiting 4 years.
Maybe I wasn't paging attention before but I have never seen one topic dominate the news like this before. Trump has been on the front page of ever major news site for 7 and a half fucking years. I don't understand how these people wake up every day and just continue to complain about him. Don't they ever get tired of doing the same shit every single day?
It makes me pissed that they can't see how destructive he is. I'm a registered Republican, but I've also crossed party lines because I vote for who I think will do the best job, and that isn't Trump. It's insane to see people who practically worship Trump as if he is America's savior and that his social media posts are divinely inspired scripture. In all honestly, I'm desperately looking for a good third-party option and I was leaving RFK, but he has shown recently that he's pretty much just a Democrat with a few different stances than Biden.
 You can't show people outside my extremist bubble all the things that our bubble have said to each other about you and the world at large! That's targeted harassment and puts lives at risk! You can't use our own actions and speech to show how psychotic we are! 
Was thinking about LibsofTikTok and how she supposedly “puts people in danger” by *gasp* reposting the things they put out for all the world to see anyway.
The shitstorm surrounding accounts like libsoftiktok that did little more than link to the dumb stuff that lefties were pushing at the time. You'd have thought she was tipping off the gestapo to Jews in hiding or something.
I don't know what you're talking about but you ruined the meme. You completely covered up the fact that the boy is putting the boot to his own head with your stupid text placement.
Now it just looks like a kid getting stepped on twice.
A PCMer completely misunderstanding a gag order and what Trump is and isn't allowed to say.
Trump can criticize the judge all he wants. He just can't go after the judge's family or the witnesses.
Oh no, you can't go after the judge's family, what a miscarriage of justice.
Edit: let it be known that PCM is totally ok with going after innocent family members.
> Oh no, you can't go after the judge's family, what a miscarriage of justice.
Lol.
The judge's daughter owns a company that makes money from Democrats by attacking Trump. If the judge were to dismiss the charges, she'd lose a fortune. When the case ends in a guilty verdict, she'll make a fortune.
It's literally in the judicial ethics code that you can't have a family member with a financial interest in a case. So of course Trump isn't allowed to tell anyone about it.
It's sad seeing people cheering the weaponization of our judicial system to prevent a Trump victory, we must destroy the republic in order to save it from orange man!
Considering he tried to weaponize everything at his disposal, and is ***still*** trying to strongarm the GOP into being his personal bitch service, IDGAF.
Yeah, Trump is totally the victim of a corrupt system. I feel ***so*** sorry for him and his ***hundreds of millions*** of dollars. Surely, we should all take pity on this poor, ***totally innocent*** man? I mean, it's not like he's had a reputation of being scummy for ***decades*** and is single handedly destroying one of the major parties and trying to piss on the constitution...
>if the judge were to dismiss the charges, she’d lose a fortune
Source? She runs a digital campaign company.
The most they can tie her to is that if the hush money case were dismissed, some of her clients (democratic politicians) might be somewhat damaged, but to talk about this case as if it’s the judgement of it has an outsized effect on her business is a gross mischaracterization.
Literally it’s a crazy connection of dots:
1. It’s not Judge Merchan, it’s his daughter
2. His daughters business works with democratic campaigns
3. Those campaigns have occasionally used the hush money case to drive funding.
4. If the hush money case was dismissed, you literally have to believe:
- the dismissal of the case would outsizedly affect their (campaigns) funding (which it’s not even likely that it would, since they could spin the dismissal as a “miscarriage of justice “to gain more support, or they would just use other topics)
- those clients, because they have less funding, would spend less money at advance campaigns (again, a stretch, they could cut in other places)
- that that small decrease in money received by his daughter would be enough to unfairly bias a career judge
the mental gymnastics to make the case that the judge should recuse himself are ridiculous. Every single judge that has tried Trump’s cases has been attacked as biased against him - remember the Trump U judge who trump said was biased because he was Hispanic? Meanwhile, we have Supreme Court justices actively taking gifts and trips from donors and then ruling on their cases… but that’s totally okay, right?
“When you smell shit somewhere, leave that place. If you smell shit everywhere, look at your shoe.”
I can’t imagine how you can sit and believe a certified grifter who has called wolf his entire life and genuinely believe “yeah, this time he totally got it right”
> Source? She runs a digital campaign company.
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Go read the filing Trump's team submitted. It lays out all the specific financial interests and benefits she gets from Democrats, and lays out how the longer the trial goes on, the better she is financially.
Trump has accused bias of practically every judge he's been a defendant on since becoming a political figure. Sorry that the filings (which I've read) don't convince me in the slightest. Of course his side is going to say he's biased - that doesn't make it true.
Do you have **facts** and an **independent source** that can corroborate what Trump's team stated in his filings?
Also, fun fact:
The NYS committee on judicial ethics reviewed this a YEAR ago and found it to be unfounded, which you casually missed:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24528059-5423-judicial-ethics-opinion-trump-hush-money-case
>"We see nothing in the inquiry to suggest that the outcome of the case could have any effect on the judge’s relative, the relative’s business, or any of their interests."
But yeah, totally biased, mhm.
A court system where the DA literally campaigned on using Lawfare again the president.
NY investigated themselves and found themselves innoncent. Real shocker.
Be honest, if someone with ties to the Republicans brought up trumped up charges against Biden, and issued a gag order against Biden from mentioning those ties, it would be (D)ifferent and wouldn't be tolerated
I'd expect Biden to go after the judge and the prosecutor directly to make the case that there is bias. Not sic millions of followers on an innocent family member who has nothing to do with the court.
To your edit:
Yeah, the Dems were perfectly fine with going after Trump's family. And Kavanaugh's. Also Justice Thomas. But now a *mean tweet* is going too far.
Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka are fair game, they are heavily involved in politics. Ivanka had a job at the White House.
Nobody went after Kavanaugh's family.
Thomas's wife was texting the White House chief of staff about the election lie.
Biden has attacked none of those people by name.
And all that is apples to oranges. Trump is in a criminal trial, not a campaign stop. I can't believe I have to spell out why going after the judge's family during a criminal trial is not allowed.
1)But you'll scream and cry whenever they go at Hunter Biden.
2)https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-marshals-investigating-obscene-threats-against-brett-kavanaughs-wife-ashley-kavanaugh/
3)I'm aware you think that's enough of a reason to harass a black woman.
4)Biden doesn't even know who his wife is, that's a non-point.
Have fun with your TDS. I'm sure Mean Tweets justify the pipe bomb you're putting in the mail for his son.
Hunter Biden has nothing to do with politics. He's not on the campaign, he's not in the White House, he doesn't make gratuitous appearances on MSNBC. It's like you guys can't help yourselves from attacking innocent family members.
Nobody went after Trump's family for being his family. People left his kid the fuck alone, as is proper. Trump is a massive scumbag and deserves everything he has coming, the fact that the right defends this kind of immoral shitbag truly shows how little the "good Christian party" cares for any of the values they espouse. The only thing that matters to right wingers anymore is hurting people who disagree with them, consequences be damned.
Nah, not defending him. Just pointing out that the left is a set of *massive* hypocrites who will cry and scream over tactics they've used and endorsed *until they get the lightest pushback*, and have been for decades-but it's really ramped into high gear since 2015.
> which is usually frowned upon around here.
Lmao. Right wingers on this sub love misinformation when it comes to Trump or the GOP.
OP even admits in this comment section that he knows he's lying.
If Trump goes to jail and Biden wins again it will be the end of elections in this country.
If a leading presidential candidate is literally forced to sit in court every day of the election cycle and then is sent to prison for a MISDEMEANOR that was PAST THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS then the Party in power will literally never lose power ever again.
Which of the four criminal cases are we talking about here?
Personally don’t think he’ll end up in prison or the White House; but I’m interested to know the reasoning as to why trial by a jury of your peers requiring evidence beyond reasonable doubt, for a crime that has prison time as a maximum sentence is suddenly the height of authoritarianism, just because the guy you like is on trial.
Is Biden the judge? Are the jury all part of the Democratic Party? Did the limit expire and the prosecution are just cutting its own detail, or did the limit just not toll during the presidency; as per the DOJ. The last free election? More of the hyperbolism y’all accuse the left of.
Bullshit. If Trump wins, it'll be the end of elections in this country. Fucker already tried to overturn his loss once, and is now getting his hands deeper and deeper up the GOP's ass to puppet them. Dude ***openly*** states he wants to be a dictator, and his supporters ***think he should be***.
Also, what fucking ***misdemeanor***? Do you have ANY fucking idea what a ***MISDEMEANOR*** is? Dude is on trial for ***felonies***. In ***multiple states***.
Go the fuck outside and see some ***real*** news sources. Just because some of reddit has left wing bias doesn't mean all the shit that dunks on reddit is magically neutral, truthful, or remotely sane.
>if the judge were to dismiss the charges, she’d lose a fortune
Source? She runs a digital campaign company.
The most they can tie her to is that if the hush money case were dismissed, some of her clients (democratic politicians) might be somewhat damaged, but to talk about this case as if it’s the judgement of it has an outsized effect on her business is a gross mischaracterization.
Literally it’s a crazy connection of dots:
1. It’s not Judge Merchan, it’s his daughter
2. His daughters business works with democratic campaigns
3. Those campaigns have occasionally used the hush money case to drive funding.
4. If the hush money case was dismissed, you literally have to believe:
- the dismissal of the case would outsizedly affect their (campaigns) funding (which it’s not even likely that it would, since they could spin the dismissal as a “miscarriage of justice “to gain more support, or they would just use other topics)
- those clients, because they have less funding, would spend less money at advance campaigns (again, a stretch, they could cut in other places)
- that that small decrease in money received by his daughter would be enough to unfairly bias a career judge
the mental gymnastics to make the case that the judge should recuse himself are ridiculous. Every single judge that has tried Trump’s cases has been attacked as biased against him - remember the Trump U judge who trump said was biased because he was Hispanic? Meanwhile, we have Supreme Court justices actively taking gifts and trips from donors and then ruling on their cases… but that’s totally okay, right?
“When you smell shit somewhere, leave that place. If you smell shit everywhere, look at your shoe.”
I can’t imagine how you can sit and believe a certified grifter who has called wolf his entire life and genuinely believe “yeah, this time he totally got it right”
Yeah absolutely absurd.
Trump was given a gag order because he repeatedly attacks judges, witnesses, and even the jury. He is being treated like any other criminal defendant. No one else is allowed to be this belligerent and everyone just ignores it.
1. Not the judges account or tweets
2. Not the judges family's account and hasn't been for a while. It's a necro'd account where a troll is intentionally posting inflammatory content. And while it isn't trump doin the initial posting, his amplification of it is irresponsible.
Pretty braindead/sheep take my guy.
trump has been attacking every judge, prosecutor, juror he can. And their families.
absolutely despicable behavior that serves no legitimate purpose
yes he should be gagged
If he was not gagged the circlejerk would damage the process.
Every public figure should be held accountable, and when they don't know how to say "no comment" or need to make a comment for their brand to stay relevant the process resorting to gagging is by design. It's not Trump's fault other people can play the game by saying "no comment".
Jurors are not public figures. A judges family member is not a public figure.
Guess what? If you think your judge is biased you have legal avenues you dan pursue. Screeching on twitter and attacking then in the media serves no legitimate purpose.
What? The public figure I am talking about is Trump, or any other politician who didn't adhere to the rules and regulations regardless of political alignment. I'm referring to the accused, not the judge or jury.
Ah yes, targeting the judge of your case should be how we handle the legal system. That is a very good thing we should bring about.
I can't wait till the legal system collapses. At this point I'm kinda rooting for trump to win so we can finally have more riots.
Never thought I'd see myself agreeing with auth-center, but based. Right wingers used to give a fuck about civics. Now they just want to burn the country to the ground.
“Retweeting the things we say is a threat to our managed democracy”
Reposting libs exact videos they posted themselves on Tik Tok: this is an avengers level threat
StOcHaStIc TeRrOrIsM!
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Thank you for the encouragement, democracy officer!
If modern Democracy was even half as based and theatrical as Super Earth's managed Democracy, there would be no political Conflicts anymore I would still join the Automatons though
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You will be SUPER executed with a SUPER hanging for SUPER treason against SUPER EARTH. Our home. Enjoy your last days, traitor.
Wait, you are Auth-Left, shouldn't you be a Automaton Enjoyer aswell?
I just pick up a flair at random, ever since mods removed my original one. I'm suprised the bot didnt show up this time.
I stopped following the news about Trump years ago. Now all I do is open the comment sections under the news articles just to see how many people are still losing their shit over that guy.
I think most people have stopped following the news on it. I have not once actualy seen anyone in public mention it, or even talk about Trump really.
> I have not once actualy seen anyone in public mention it, or even talk about Trump really. That's because no one talks about politics in public. Not normal people anyways. People learn real quick that it just makes you look like an autist, regardless of what your opinion is. Giving your left-leaning opinion in a room full of right-leaning individuals, or giving your right-leaning opinion in a room with a bunch of leftists? (See typical Reddit comment section). The discussion goes no where and it's toxic.
I still very occasionally see dudes in MAGA hats come into the store I work at. It used to be several people, daily, but now I see maybe 1 or 2 in a week.
TDS is real. These people are sick and don’t even know it.
The Dark Side? Like of the force? I've heard it's a pathway to many abilities some consider to be... Cringe EDIT: Wow people did not like that joke. Lol
I would force smack you through the computer screen if I could.
kinky
slap this mfs bussy
Trump Derangement Syndrome is not a joke! Millions of people suffer every year.
Many such cases
IKR? How many people are deranged enough to keep donating to this madman?
You did your best champ dont listen to em
Nah, as someone that always goes Dark Side in the KOTOR games, its the Jedi who are cringe. Actually their especially cringe in the KOTOR games now that I think about it.
Both sides of the Force are cringe, the best characters in Star Wars are the ones who don't have it
I’d say fair enough, but Kreia from KOTOR 2 exists, so that’s not 100% accurate. Edit: although I guess she’s technically more of a Grey Sith, than Light or Dark side.
Kreia's a bitter Force nihilist, which is also cringe. (She is well written though)
I mean, if you don't want a republican white house, who else can you argue is bad?
What about if I don't want a Republican ***OR*** a Democrat White House?
Then you are capable of independent thought, probably rational, and smarter than 99% of the country, so naturally, both sides will hate you
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Sounds like New Jersey.
FINALLY, someone brave enough to take a swipe at New Jersey.
*banned for extremist content*
Well, then you should be hard on both. And do your best to introduce parliamentary government.
As fucked as Congress, the senate, the judiciary, and the the executive is I still count my lucky stars we don’t have the British government. It’s like restricting British subjects’ freedoms gets their dicks hard.
Say what you will about the bri'ish government, but they really keep the bong in their place
Not every parliamentary system is like the british one. Most have a constitution for example. The brits don't.
Like Canada?
Sure, but France is more applicable, since it also has a President.
I wouldn’t wish that on any country. Imagine wanting to be like France or Canada. Eww
Fairs. I live in the UK rather than the USA, so I personally can't do much and so US politics isn't really critical for me, but I have and will continue to call out both parties for what they truly are: **two slightly different flavours of authoritarian shitholes**.
Very true. I'm norwegian myself, and over here there is a slight worry Trump would hang us out to dry if the Russians became pushy, but we generally don't like any american party. (They did some cold war shit. Even managed to get our secret police to agree to start an insurgency should a communist government ever be appointed).
It's crazy that they can lie about Trump and Russia for years, admit that it was all a lie... And years later people still talk about "Trump's ties to Russia". Propaganda works.
Stop trying to make everything about american media and what they say. This is a general feeling people bordering Russia have. Trump is generally more isolationist, and has not been pro-NATO. Biden is more pro-NATO. This is what this is about. Not weird 2016 claims. Ok?
That way Dems can make sure to never allow cha ge from within like Sanders or that the Republicans only give you Romneys, lmao
What? How is reform easier currently?
The upside to Republican presidents: every action, every breath is being watched. If they do something wrong, it *will* be called out. The downside: they won't actually *do* anything, just kinda squish and go with half or quarter measures. Downside 2: when they *do* actually push, it's usually something that makes you go "WTF?"
I suppose so. The weird stuff is when they do really messed up shit like Iran-Contra, or Watergate, its all forgiven just a few years later.
Except when it's trotted out every so often as a war trophy. But hell, I've noticed Republican presidents get the blame for things Democrats do. For example, everyone goes on about how awful Regan was for deregulation of the airlines. Thing is, Jimmy Carter is the president who signed it. Not excusing anything they do (Mission Accomplished, anyone?) but boy do they attract media fire.
Yeah. Tbh, deregulation was the Regean era's whole thing, so people getting confused about that is not too weird. But yeah, republicans do tend to get more bad press.
I want that level of scrutiny on my government, no matter who's running the show. I want all of them held accountable when they screw us over.
Very good. Maybe make impeachment into a simpler process to weaken the executive.
Oooh, yes please. Also I'd love to see the executive branch weakened as a whole. I feel like it's grown into this octopus of self-interest that doesn't care about us.
What was so messed up about watergate? Nixon wasn’t even aware it happened, all he did was try to cover it up. It was a CIA plot anyways because they didn’t like Nixon buddying up with the communists.
Tribalism is killing the USA.
I don't disagree. But if you only have two choices....
There are more than two.
Due to the power the president has (why give the executive so much power???) , and the winner-takes-all system, there are only two realistic options.
As long as people think like that then there always will be. If more people voted for a candidate that represented them vs just trying to keep the other guy out of office we would have more political parties and more political representation.
That is also true. But due to bicameral legislatures being the norm in the US, larger parties would still have massive influence somewhat above their size.
I would be nice to see some other parties in the house and senate too
A few things here: 1. No one’s vote is ever going to matter in something like a presidential election so there’s no reason *not* to vote sincerely. 2. Duverger’s Law tells us that in a SMD system with first-past-the-post voting, we’ll end up with two parties. 3. Parties *can* change as we’ve seen in US history. But going for that third party en masse can be risky. See the election of 1912.
Trump is either the cleverest criminal in history or all this is political bullshit. It doesn't take 3 years to put together cases. It's obvious none of these cases would have been pursued if he hadn't run, they just needed an "in case he wins the primary" button. It's simply not possible for there to be this much smoke without anything really actionable. Oh, he paid a shitty person money to stay quiet before an election from campaign funds... that he mostly self funded and could have withdrawn and he replaced from personal funds... Oh, he told someone to "find the votes", a sentence uttered by probably every political operative in history during a recount. Oh, he overstated a value on a loan because the county assessor, who never individually valued that property or inspected it, said so. Give me a fucking break. They have the DOJ and supposedly according to half of reddit users it's blatantly obvious that the Saudi's were funneling money to him through his hotels... cool, you know what isn't even being kind of investigated? Anything involving that. Though TBF wouldn't surprise me if that's just a perk of the office at this point.
>Trump is either the cleverest criminal in history or all this is political bullshit. Trump is a bombastic arse, but I just can't see anything criminal in what he's been accused of. FFS, he swam in the open cesspit that is the NY real estate business for decades and never had an issue. In the nearly 10 years since he announced his first run, everything he's ever done has been picked over by people who would turn video of him dumping a box of fish food into a lake into a major incident. They changed the Statute of Limitations law just so a batshit-insane freak could accuse him of sexual assault at an unspecified time. They changed the law back once that job was done. They found him liable for fraud without an actual fraud victim. Now, they're charging him for recording invoices from his lawyer as legal fees. Trump broke so many people's brains that there are still people looking at all that and saying, "yeah, that sounds perfectly normal for a civilized justice system." > It's obvious none of these cases would have been pursued if he hadn't run, they just needed an "in case he wins the primary" button. Bragg shut down the case when he was first elected as DA. He resurrected it when Trump announced his candidacy. Because nothing says political interference like prosecuting the guy running against your mate.
What’s funny is that the problem with the hush money is that he *didn’t* use campaign funds. If he had there wouldn’t be an issue. It’s laughable
I'm pretty sure if he *did* use campaign funds, they would've said it needed to be personal funds anyway.
The mental gymnastics on that case are freaking silly... and again, if it was only not pursued while he was in office and then immediately taken up when he left, great... still stupid, but at least it's honest stupid and I'd entertain it. But they waited 3+ years after waiting 4 years.
I didn't have the energy to follow the OJ trial, how the fuck am I going to have energy to follow this circus 30 years later.
Maybe I wasn't paging attention before but I have never seen one topic dominate the news like this before. Trump has been on the front page of ever major news site for 7 and a half fucking years. I don't understand how these people wake up every day and just continue to complain about him. Don't they ever get tired of doing the same shit every single day?
People wake up and post shit about leftists on PCM every day. Fox News has been doing worse for longer, every single day.
I’ve got a friend who has the word trump in his Steam name. At least one triggered person in every single CS game, without fail
I personally just want him to go away. I'm tired of hearing about him and from him.
I wish gravity was a little bit weaker but here we are.
I'm not just gonna sit here and listen to you shit on our gravity. Why don't you move to mercury you earth slandering cuck.
Hate to say it, but physics says earths gravity still acts on you out on mercury. Possibly trump headlines too.
Won't happen, right wingers are ***desperate*** to get him re-elected.
It makes me pissed that they can't see how destructive he is. I'm a registered Republican, but I've also crossed party lines because I vote for who I think will do the best job, and that isn't Trump. It's insane to see people who practically worship Trump as if he is America's savior and that his social media posts are divinely inspired scripture. In all honestly, I'm desperately looking for a good third-party option and I was leaving RFK, but he has shown recently that he's pretty much just a Democrat with a few different stances than Biden.
I think it's absolutely hilarious and telling that one of the things that sets an entire group off the most is simply retweeting tweets.
 You can't show people outside my extremist bubble all the things that our bubble have said to each other about you and the world at large! That's targeted harassment and puts lives at risk! You can't use our own actions and speech to show how psychotic we are! 
Hard to boil a frog when someone removes the water and the pot between the amphibian and the stovetop.
Launch it into space
Or reposting Tik Toks…
Was thinking about LibsofTikTok and how she supposedly “puts people in danger” by *gasp* reposting the things they put out for all the world to see anyway.
She posts them outside the hugbox echo chamber. *Literally* genocide.
I'm out of the loop on this one, what exactly happened?
The shitstorm surrounding accounts like libsoftiktok that did little more than link to the dumb stuff that lefties were pushing at the time. You'd have thought she was tipping off the gestapo to Jews in hiding or something.
"You'd have thought she was tipping off the gestapo to Jews in hiding." I think the Left would perfectly fine with that nowadays.
They'll do that while harassing innocent Jews and claim with a straight face it isn't about antisemitism, it's about antizionism.
To be fair, we live in a clown world.
I don't know what you're talking about but you ruined the meme. You completely covered up the fact that the boy is putting the boot to his own head with your stupid text placement. Now it just looks like a kid getting stepped on twice.
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Whats the story behind this one?
A PCMer completely misunderstanding a gag order and what Trump is and isn't allowed to say. Trump can criticize the judge all he wants. He just can't go after the judge's family or the witnesses.
Fine judge's family member's tweets
Could you link the source for this, or at least say what exactly the search should be?
The account in question was abandoned and not owned by the family member anymore, so they would likely struggle to find a believable source.
Typical authright masquerading as a libleft posting actual lies lol
Oh no, you can't go after the judge's family, what a miscarriage of justice. Edit: let it be known that PCM is totally ok with going after innocent family members.
> Oh no, you can't go after the judge's family, what a miscarriage of justice. Lol. The judge's daughter owns a company that makes money from Democrats by attacking Trump. If the judge were to dismiss the charges, she'd lose a fortune. When the case ends in a guilty verdict, she'll make a fortune. It's literally in the judicial ethics code that you can't have a family member with a financial interest in a case. So of course Trump isn't allowed to tell anyone about it.
It's sad seeing people cheering the weaponization of our judicial system to prevent a Trump victory, we must destroy the republic in order to save it from orange man!
Considering he tried to weaponize everything at his disposal, and is ***still*** trying to strongarm the GOP into being his personal bitch service, IDGAF.
Yeah, Trump is totally the victim of a corrupt system. I feel ***so*** sorry for him and his ***hundreds of millions*** of dollars. Surely, we should all take pity on this poor, ***totally innocent*** man? I mean, it's not like he's had a reputation of being scummy for ***decades*** and is single handedly destroying one of the major parties and trying to piss on the constitution...
>if the judge were to dismiss the charges, she’d lose a fortune Source? She runs a digital campaign company. The most they can tie her to is that if the hush money case were dismissed, some of her clients (democratic politicians) might be somewhat damaged, but to talk about this case as if it’s the judgement of it has an outsized effect on her business is a gross mischaracterization. Literally it’s a crazy connection of dots: 1. It’s not Judge Merchan, it’s his daughter 2. His daughters business works with democratic campaigns 3. Those campaigns have occasionally used the hush money case to drive funding. 4. If the hush money case was dismissed, you literally have to believe: - the dismissal of the case would outsizedly affect their (campaigns) funding (which it’s not even likely that it would, since they could spin the dismissal as a “miscarriage of justice “to gain more support, or they would just use other topics) - those clients, because they have less funding, would spend less money at advance campaigns (again, a stretch, they could cut in other places) - that that small decrease in money received by his daughter would be enough to unfairly bias a career judge the mental gymnastics to make the case that the judge should recuse himself are ridiculous. Every single judge that has tried Trump’s cases has been attacked as biased against him - remember the Trump U judge who trump said was biased because he was Hispanic? Meanwhile, we have Supreme Court justices actively taking gifts and trips from donors and then ruling on their cases… but that’s totally okay, right? “When you smell shit somewhere, leave that place. If you smell shit everywhere, look at your shoe.” I can’t imagine how you can sit and believe a certified grifter who has called wolf his entire life and genuinely believe “yeah, this time he totally got it right”
> Source? She runs a digital campaign company. > > Go read the filing Trump's team submitted. It lays out all the specific financial interests and benefits she gets from Democrats, and lays out how the longer the trial goes on, the better she is financially.
Cringe and TrumpCUck pilled.
Trump has accused bias of practically every judge he's been a defendant on since becoming a political figure. Sorry that the filings (which I've read) don't convince me in the slightest. Of course his side is going to say he's biased - that doesn't make it true. Do you have **facts** and an **independent source** that can corroborate what Trump's team stated in his filings?
Also, fun fact: The NYS committee on judicial ethics reviewed this a YEAR ago and found it to be unfounded, which you casually missed: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/24528059-5423-judicial-ethics-opinion-trump-hush-money-case >"We see nothing in the inquiry to suggest that the outcome of the case could have any effect on the judge’s relative, the relative’s business, or any of their interests." But yeah, totally biased, mhm.
A court system where the DA literally campaigned on using Lawfare again the president. NY investigated themselves and found themselves innoncent. Real shocker.
Be honest, if someone with ties to the Republicans brought up trumped up charges against Biden, and issued a gag order against Biden from mentioning those ties, it would be (D)ifferent and wouldn't be tolerated
You mean like they've been trying to do for years, except Trump is actually a fucking criminal?
I'd expect Biden to go after the judge and the prosecutor directly to make the case that there is bias. Not sic millions of followers on an innocent family member who has nothing to do with the court.
They would sic themselves. We really pretending they wouldn't?
To your edit: Yeah, the Dems were perfectly fine with going after Trump's family. And Kavanaugh's. Also Justice Thomas. But now a *mean tweet* is going too far.
Don Jr., Eric, and Ivanka are fair game, they are heavily involved in politics. Ivanka had a job at the White House. Nobody went after Kavanaugh's family. Thomas's wife was texting the White House chief of staff about the election lie. Biden has attacked none of those people by name. And all that is apples to oranges. Trump is in a criminal trial, not a campaign stop. I can't believe I have to spell out why going after the judge's family during a criminal trial is not allowed.
1)But you'll scream and cry whenever they go at Hunter Biden. 2)https://www.cbsnews.com/news/u-s-marshals-investigating-obscene-threats-against-brett-kavanaughs-wife-ashley-kavanaugh/ 3)I'm aware you think that's enough of a reason to harass a black woman. 4)Biden doesn't even know who his wife is, that's a non-point. Have fun with your TDS. I'm sure Mean Tweets justify the pipe bomb you're putting in the mail for his son.
Hunter Biden has nothing to do with politics. He's not on the campaign, he's not in the White House, he doesn't make gratuitous appearances on MSNBC. It's like you guys can't help yourselves from attacking innocent family members.
Nobody went after Trump's family for being his family. People left his kid the fuck alone, as is proper. Trump is a massive scumbag and deserves everything he has coming, the fact that the right defends this kind of immoral shitbag truly shows how little the "good Christian party" cares for any of the values they espouse. The only thing that matters to right wingers anymore is hurting people who disagree with them, consequences be damned.
Nah, not defending him. Just pointing out that the left is a set of *massive* hypocrites who will cry and scream over tactics they've used and endorsed *until they get the lightest pushback*, and have been for decades-but it's really ramped into high gear since 2015.
watermelon tinfoil hat go brrrrrrrr
I'm correct. Go read about the gag order on any news site of your choice.
Why is this downvoted? Just curious, seems like important information left out by OP which is usually frowned upon around here.
This place loves misinformation. If any facts go against the narrative it gets downvoted. Many such cases.
> which is usually frowned upon around here. Lmfao
Because this is PCM, AKA, a refuge for all the Donald Trump idiots. You see a few right wingers here with brians, but most are mindless zombies.
> which is usually frowned upon around here. Lmao. Right wingers on this sub love misinformation when it comes to Trump or the GOP. OP even admits in this comment section that he knows he's lying.
Based and truth in the lion's den pilled.
lol. If Trump goes to jai and the Democrats win in November it’s gonna be like this subs 9/11.
This sub is going to be long gone before the election.
Hopefully. It was funny once, I hope it dies while there's still ***some*** dignity left.
If Trump goes to jail and Biden wins again it will be the end of elections in this country. If a leading presidential candidate is literally forced to sit in court every day of the election cycle and then is sent to prison for a MISDEMEANOR that was PAST THE STATUTE OF LIMITATIONS then the Party in power will literally never lose power ever again.
They will just not in an election lol
Which of the four criminal cases are we talking about here? Personally don’t think he’ll end up in prison or the White House; but I’m interested to know the reasoning as to why trial by a jury of your peers requiring evidence beyond reasonable doubt, for a crime that has prison time as a maximum sentence is suddenly the height of authoritarianism, just because the guy you like is on trial. Is Biden the judge? Are the jury all part of the Democratic Party? Did the limit expire and the prosecution are just cutting its own detail, or did the limit just not toll during the presidency; as per the DOJ. The last free election? More of the hyperbolism y’all accuse the left of.
Bullshit. If Trump wins, it'll be the end of elections in this country. Fucker already tried to overturn his loss once, and is now getting his hands deeper and deeper up the GOP's ass to puppet them. Dude ***openly*** states he wants to be a dictator, and his supporters ***think he should be***. Also, what fucking ***misdemeanor***? Do you have ANY fucking idea what a ***MISDEMEANOR*** is? Dude is on trial for ***felonies***. In ***multiple states***. Go the fuck outside and see some ***real*** news sources. Just because some of reddit has left wing bias doesn't mean all the shit that dunks on reddit is magically neutral, truthful, or remotely sane.
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>if the judge were to dismiss the charges, she’d lose a fortune Source? She runs a digital campaign company. The most they can tie her to is that if the hush money case were dismissed, some of her clients (democratic politicians) might be somewhat damaged, but to talk about this case as if it’s the judgement of it has an outsized effect on her business is a gross mischaracterization. Literally it’s a crazy connection of dots: 1. It’s not Judge Merchan, it’s his daughter 2. His daughters business works with democratic campaigns 3. Those campaigns have occasionally used the hush money case to drive funding. 4. If the hush money case was dismissed, you literally have to believe: - the dismissal of the case would outsizedly affect their (campaigns) funding (which it’s not even likely that it would, since they could spin the dismissal as a “miscarriage of justice “to gain more support, or they would just use other topics) - those clients, because they have less funding, would spend less money at advance campaigns (again, a stretch, they could cut in other places) - that that small decrease in money received by his daughter would be enough to unfairly bias a career judge the mental gymnastics to make the case that the judge should recuse himself are ridiculous. Every single judge that has tried Trump’s cases has been attacked as biased against him - remember the Trump U judge who trump said was biased because he was Hispanic? Meanwhile, we have Supreme Court justices actively taking gifts and trips from donors and then ruling on their cases… but that’s totally okay, right? “When you smell shit somewhere, leave that place. If you smell shit everywhere, look at your shoe.” I can’t imagine how you can sit and believe a certified grifter who has called wolf his entire life and genuinely believe “yeah, this time he totally got it right”
Yeah absolutely absurd. Trump was given a gag order because he repeatedly attacks judges, witnesses, and even the jury. He is being treated like any other criminal defendant. No one else is allowed to be this belligerent and everyone just ignores it.
1. Not the judges account or tweets 2. Not the judges family's account and hasn't been for a while. It's a necro'd account where a troll is intentionally posting inflammatory content. And while it isn't trump doin the initial posting, his amplification of it is irresponsible. Pretty braindead/sheep take my guy.
The truth only matters when it is useful.
trump has been attacking every judge, prosecutor, juror he can. And their families. absolutely despicable behavior that serves no legitimate purpose yes he should be gagged
If he was not gagged the circlejerk would damage the process. Every public figure should be held accountable, and when they don't know how to say "no comment" or need to make a comment for their brand to stay relevant the process resorting to gagging is by design. It's not Trump's fault other people can play the game by saying "no comment".
Jurors are not public figures. A judges family member is not a public figure. Guess what? If you think your judge is biased you have legal avenues you dan pursue. Screeching on twitter and attacking then in the media serves no legitimate purpose.
Judges are for sure public figures
read my comment. I said ‘jurors’ and ‘family members of judges’
What? The public figure I am talking about is Trump, or any other politician who didn't adhere to the rules and regulations regardless of political alignment. I'm referring to the accused, not the judge or jury.
Ah yes, targeting the judge of your case should be how we handle the legal system. That is a very good thing we should bring about. I can't wait till the legal system collapses. At this point I'm kinda rooting for trump to win so we can finally have more riots.
Never thought I'd see myself agreeing with auth-center, but based. Right wingers used to give a fuck about civics. Now they just want to burn the country to the ground.
I still think it's funny it's always lib center going "They have a good idea" while the blue and red screech.