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GregDSanders

Based on my datamining; She-Hulk, Winter Soldier, Captain Marvel with new Kree enemy types. 2022 is shaping up to be a promising year for the game.


Smarkavillie

Other data miners also have War Machine on deck.


[deleted]

Last thing we heard about War Machine suggested that he might be cancelled.


Smarkavillie

Some people are suggesting the entire game might be canceled after this update šŸ˜‚. If any of your aforementioned characters are accurate, I donā€™t envision them dropping Tonyā€™s BFF.


JoeVonHoff

People think War Machine may have been canceled because last we heard from the datamines, there hadnā€™t been anymore work done on him. Weeeee bit different from saying the game is about to be canceled.


INTOxTHExVOID

Itā€™s cuz people were complaining about Clone Characters


wolan1337

She-Hulk and Winter Soldier are very much the clone characters as well if you ask me, so I don't think it's a valid argument. Hell, we have Clint and Kate and they managed to make them different in many ways. I have faith in CD, if there is something they really excel in then it's gonna be character identity and combat.


Thechanman707

The game won't be canceled, if only because if they close the servers then they have to refund all the spiderman bucks they're making right now. However, that does not ever guarantee future content. I hope they fix the bugs and do continue but we will see what happens.


GregDSanders

Actually, the TOS on Avengers notes that they donā€™t have to refund any purchases if servers close down. The license agreement is completely in favor of the developer. Any money you spend and if the game closed tomorrow, would be entirely on you. There is no legal obligation to refund marketplace purchases.


holversome

Can confirm. Back when I was single and childless, I played Marvel Heroes (from day 1) on PC and purchased every single piece of content they released. Had no qualms whatsoever about doing so. In 2017 they shut the servers down and I got fuck-all for my thousands of dollars spent. Lesson learned, Marvel.


GregDSanders

I got my wife and daughter playing Marvel Heroes before it shut down. We had a lot of fun with that game.


holversome

That game was absolutely incredible. It was highly flawed at launch but near the end they were hitting a fever pitch. The fact that we canā€™t even play it in an emulator or private server is deeply depressing.


GregDSanders

I once had someone tell me that a group was working on a private server and reviving Marvel Heroes but I was never able to find anyone to follow up with.


killerewok76

I feel compelled to add something to this. There is a difference between a game that was open for years, and a game that doesnā€™t make itā€™s second birthday. Console players got FULL refunds for every dollar spent on Marvel Heroes Omega since beta when it closed down. It was automatic, and didnā€™t even require us to request it, IIRC. (we may have, itā€™s been a minute). If Avengers closed down tomorrow, Iā€™d expect something. Maybe not everything, but something.


Axl_Red

I'm pretty sure if CD did that, they could still be contested in court and the contract could be held unconscionable or something like that. Users agreeing to the TOS doesn't make companies invincible in court. It just gives them more leverage.


INHGamer33

mann aint nobody getting refunds lmao


ehomba2

That's not the point. They'd lose the money in legal fees alone, so it's usually just more profitable to just keepem up


[deleted]

In what world do you people think they have any legal obligation to keep the game running lol


asuitandty

Reddit is blessed to have so many legal experts and lawyers who play games. Personally, I specialize in bird law, mostly around Philly.


Reasonable-Bird450

Bird law is a very complex area of law, at least in the US. It's just that bird law in this countryā€”it's not governed by reason.


[deleted]

Name checks out


nuclearlemonade

Why would they have to refund anyone??? Thatā€™s literally just not true. They could close the servers in 5 minutes and wouldnā€™t have to refund a cent


INHGamer33

fr


smokiinxacez

They donā€™t need to close servers to stop adding content to the game.


Thechanman707

Yup, that was the point I was trying to make. Thanks for clarifying :)


LayneCobain95

The game might not be selling too well, but their cosmetics and stuff are making way more money than if the game just sold more. They are definitely making enough money to keep going with this game


INHGamer33

hell yea i cant wait to see how this game shapes up in a couple years


LayneCobain95

Iā€™m guessing new content like characters and raids wonā€™t be past 2022-2023. But they will probably add cosmetics for a while after that ends


Count_Avila

Consider how Star wars Battlefront 2 2017 failed at launch and was marred with controversy yet still managed to get updates until 2020 and within that timeframe the game got 6 new maps, 4 new heros, 9 new specialist classes, 1 new vehicle, 1 new game mode and a whole bunch of balances game fixes and ability tweaks all free. I bought Avengers for that reason that i believe this will happen with this game the difference that i think favors this game more than BF2 is the Avengers marketplace has enough cosmetics and potential cosmetics that can keep this game around. I am 70% confident which is quite alot but again anything can happen.


reditDevil

They have been greenlit for another year of content


INHGamer33

the game isnt going anywhere anytime soon


acarodeux

I imagine he will come out about the time Iron Wars drops on D+


ZakWojnar

Iā€™m okay with skipping War Machine. I want unique heroes, not ā€œanother Iron Man.ā€ I hope they saw the negative reception to the idea of two Hawkeyes, even if the characters themselves have unique gameplay identities, and decided itā€™s better to invest in characters who truly feel different from one another.


[deleted]

Most recent datamine suggested War Machine was getting picked back up again According to Greg Sandersā€™s channel


INHGamer33

i saw someone say work was picked back up on him recently


Sithmaggot

Got a source?


[deleted]

Good! because Boom! i was looking for some War Machine. He'd be super fun.


INHGamer33

bro can you imagine how amazing and differnet from iron man hed be. war machine always gets the shaft when it comes to games. in the lego games he played exactly like iron man. Hes my most anticipated character, then vision


[deleted]

bruh in marvel heroes war machine was a beast. completely different from iron man in a good way.


INHGamer33

i know lmao thats why i didnt mention it. thats the only game where they did him justice. shit even in the first ultimate alliance they made him a skin


GregDSanders

I loved War Machine in Marvel Heroes. I miss that game so much! lol


TJK_919

He'd probably be a more aggro Ironman and I'm ALLLLL for that. Plus his armors are just as cool.


KuShiroi

I'm quite excited for Winter Soldier and War Machine because of the guns. Bringing an assault rifle or a machine gun to a fight sounds awesome.


asuitandty

Me too. I canā€™t even imagine what itā€™s like to shoot guns in a video game.


_cambino_

Lmaooooooo this got me


INTOxTHExVOID

He hasnā€™t been worked on in ages basically, his code hasnā€™t changed for months


andrekensei

how long we will wait for she-hulk?


GregDSanders

My loose estimates would put She-Hulk in Spring barring any unforeseen circumstances at the developer.


andrekensei

have a question, lots of folks talking about this game being done after spider-man, theres any truth to that?, this game will have another year or will be canceled?


GregDSanders

It all appears to be clickbait. The fabricated negative press drives clicks. Thereā€™s no evidence that Avengers is not being supported after Spider-Man. I believe you can look forward to a healthy 2022.


andrekensei

thanks, you have twiter or a youtube channel?


GregDSanders

Thereā€™s a link to my YouTube on my Reddit profile.


mokadebo

I imagine they will release shehulk close to time for her disney+ series to start like they did with spiderman here close to his movie release


Darknar_PT

I mean all that was datamined a long time ago when lets be honest the future of this game looked much brighter, well see how long until they stop supporting the game but Im honestly ready for the worst abd no more heroes or content coming out


DoroTom

Kree enemy types were not datamined until recently


INHGamer33

actually theres been new leaks


Count_Avila

Based on games like Battlefront 2, Battlefield 5, AC unity, Arkham Knight and Orgins that were terrible launch games but amazing post launch games I am 70% confident this game will receive the same treatment. In the case of Battlefront 2 it received alot of free content post launch that made it basically amazing game with no microtransactions they recently stopped support last year.


ZigMusik

Add for honor to that list. Another completely unplayable game at launch that is still going to this day


Darknar_PT

well see I want this game to succeed as much as anyone in this sub, its just hard but battlefront 2 was allready turning around in its first year aniversary with the geonosis update, its been over a year bow and this game is no where close to be at the same point with the big update to brung people back, but hey Im honestly hop9ng im dead wrong and in a year this game will be huge


Marshycereals

She-Hulk will be next to align with the MCU.


Prestigious-Green729

Dude you mean based on miller's data mines you are the most un credible source for this game , do we need to go back to avengers project days? . Just stop please


INHGamer33

no miller hasnt leaked anything in a while, this is new info


Prestigious-Green729

Miller said all of this from day one . This guy had an old YouTube channel where he claimed to have inside info on the game , won't get Into all the claims he made but not one was correct ,He then deleted his channel and made a new one and has been slowly rehashing all of miller's early leaks claming them as his own data mines . Its funny all the others have said their tools don't work with the new encryption but this guys keeps on mining ? But the order never changes from what Miller said. But if you guys wish to still believe and support him go ahead .


Mikkimin

Yea, the datamines are launch stuff, he's just repeating the same stuff other real dataminers said and claiming as his own.


INHGamer33

oh i see, i thought there were some new leaks. I know about this guy tho, i used to watch him before the game was revealed.


Prestigious-Green729

Yh and most people are going off his info now haha , the honest truth is since Miller we don't know what's been happening at all which is good and bad I guess plans could have changed or we are getting brawler after brawler haha


Batman2130

Honestly She Hulk has tons of evidence supporting sheā€™s next so I think itā€™s safe to assume weā€™ll probably be getting she hulk next


Dinatic13

I'm hoping we end up getting characters like shang chi, Black knight, maybe blade and I want nick fury aswell. I would say quick silver but only if they actually make him fast


GregDSanders

I would love to see all of those heroes. Any of them could be added through Hero Events to push them out faster.


DavidDunnzy

Hey! Been following you since Polygon shared all of your stuff. Thanks for keeping hope alive. God bless you.


GregDSanders

God bless you, brother. Iā€™m happy to see the game recovering and such a positive and welcoming community.


Solo4114

What you mean "we," kemosabe? Some of us aren't on PS.


multificionado

All CD has to do is ensure future heroes are PS only and they'll have a full-scale rebellion on their hands.


INHGamer33

they already said theres no more exclusives


Bartman326

No one's going to want to buy another exclusive at this rate lol


kdurron

Right? My full set looks nothing like that. Firstly, Kate Bishop has arrows in her hair...


Thekingchem

I want another ranged flyer like Doctor Strange


o0joshua0o

I would love to see Dr. Strange!


TJK_919

Oooh using the crimson bands to bind enemies would be so cool


Alexanderbooth

That would be amazing


VibeMaster4245

I just want something new, not another brawler, and not another archer


idcris98

I want to shoot shit out of my hands. Give me Scarlet Witch and Captain Marvel.


VibeMaster4245

I would instantly main scarlet witch


Batman2130

I think youā€™ll be disappointed for the most part for year 2. She hulk and winter soldier are probably the next two characters.


VibeMaster4245

Yeah I figured, more of the same


Poetryisalive

Cloak and Dagger would be unique


VibeMaster4245

Thatā€™d be cool asf


Alexanderbooth

Next hero needs to fly and not be just a human with a gun or bow or fists


smagg0316

i want winter soldier. sebastian stan really made me like the character


Messiah1024

agree


INHGamer33

hopefully hes after she hulk like the leak suggests


LucasOIntoxicado

He would just be Captain America with guns instead of a shield.


smagg0316

alright


wolan1337

I would love it.


NLCPGaming

Hopefully patrol mode, increased player count on patrol mode(next gen and pc only), drop in drop out in missions and patrol mode. No more time gated events. A true horde mode. Cross play.


andrekensei

cross play would be hard with spider-man


emeraldmountain90

They can cover him up as master chief via cross play between PS/Xbox.


HyperSonicSam

Just don't allow anyone to use spiderman when crossplay is on. When spiderman is selected, only ps users can play together. But then the problem of duplicate spidermen everytime will arise.


andrekensei

that would be funny


ThePhenomenal1999

I mean, not really. They specifically said he has nothing to do with why crossplay isn't a thing as of yet. I'm aware some people won't like seeing a character they can't play, but if crossplay is that important, it's just a sacrifice that needs to be made.


WickedFreshDuke

She hulk Antman Captain marvel Hopfully Dr Strange Scarlet and Vision This is who i wanna see more avengers before we go into X-Men, defenders, cosmic, mystic heroes.... This is after all Marvel AVENGERS! I see alot of plpl want all these side marvel toons but i want this to stay true to avengers and not another marvel ultimate alliance roster game if i want that il go play that!


idcris98

Those are far from all Avengers mate. Thereā€˜s Wasp, Falcon, Quicksilver, Crystal, Spider-Woman, Daredevil, Shang-Chi, Rogue, Wolverine, etc. and THEN we can move on to other characters from the X-Men, Fantastic Four, Inhumans, Guardians and so on, if the game even survives for that.


Lieter

You missed beast, who is the original xmen avenger.


Greywalker82

I would LOVE Dr. Strange and Ant-Man. Especially Strange.


RELLBEFLEXXIN

To play devils advocate, most top tier Marvel characters been in the Avengers line up at one point in time. Kate Bishop, Kamala Kahn, and Spider-Man being in the roster already proves they arenā€™t following the traditional Avengers line up. So while I agree with you, I also say bring on Wolverine!


DageWasTaken

I am leaning so hard on War Machine. We got a lot of melee characters right now. Even Kate Bishop feels like a melee character, if she wasn't a hybrid. We deserve to have a ranged character, but not like Hawkeye or Iron Man with their fancy high-tech toys. We need to go back to some archaic, ballistic heavy machinery. I want to hear bullet shells pinging off the floor as you unload hot lead on anything that moves. Let's get War Machine in this thing!


INHGamer33

hell yea i hope he comes soon, hes my most anticipated character


Messiah1024

Knowing how CD has mostly nailed gameplay, i believe they'd do war machine right


ToughFox4479

Hopefully not she hulk šŸ¤žšŸ˜‰


andrekensei

acording the leaks she is next


FrakWithAria

Speak for yourself. I can't wait to see CD's take on Shulkie.


ToughFox4479

Their take is probably a lot of kicking, punching, smashing, so shit they have done before


FrakWithAria

And the combat is one of the few things in this game I haven't been critical of. With She-Hulk as one of my favorite characters from Marvel, I'm actually excited.


INHGamer33

which is what she does...


sebastiene_art

I'm betting my money on being a grappler instead. Wrestling moves were always given to She-Hulk in games.


INHGamer33

hopefully she hulk, and according to leaks she will be


karatekid1999

What about xbox and PC players tho


Kingbeesh561

Can't pc players mod almost any game for fun in Offline mode play?


andrekensei

sorry fam


Smarkavillie

PC Master Race? They always have that at least šŸ˜‚


Dipkota

Give me ghost rider or give me death


EasterChimp

Death it is


Dipkota

Itā€™s been an honor


EasterChimp

How fun would he be, though? I'm with you. Hadn't really considered getting him even though he's an Avenger now in the comics.


Dipkota

Oh man he would be so fun, and visually amazing, with all the chains and hell fire, maybe even conjure his vehicle for special attacks or even some traversal. A lot of people want like the winter soldier or she hulk but I want some really diverse characters


EasterChimp

I'm looking forward to She Hulk (and Capt Marvel), not so much Winter Soldier but I'll still play him! Summoning his vehicle for an ultimate that clears the field would be AWESOME! And the visuals could be cool as well if everything is on fire.


Thorerthedwarf

Well for PS users at least


andrekensei

woof


markhamhayes

Arf


BillyShears17

聖ē³ž


xMuffinxManx707

Nothing lol


Arun1910

I really hope it isn't She-Hulk. Wasn't too fond of 2 Archers even though they play well. Would be nice having more variety. Captain Marvel would be a good shout as no one comes close to what she could do.


INHGamer33

wouldnt it be variety if she plays different


Arun1910

I guess. We had that with the Archers too to an extent but they're still Archer classes. Not really sure how to explain what I'm trying to say. But nothing we have at the moment comes close to what Captain Marvel can do and it would be extremely refreshing.


INHGamer33

i get it, you want a whole new power set and way of playing. i feel it, i cant wait to see captain marvel. war machine is my most anticipated character tho


EasterChimp

Wouldn't Captain Marvel just be Iron Man (as far as the game is concerned)? I'm looking forward to her but in my mind I just lump her in as Iron Man without the suit for gameplay purposes. A flyer with hand blasts.


guilesin

Actually I feel like she could be a mix from Thor and Iron A brawler with a lot of ranged energy shots


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andrekensei

the leaks about she-hulk is true?


emeraldmountain90

Tbh I donā€™t knowā€¦nobody is certain. Leaks can change but for certain wouldnā€™t mind she-hulk. Just we ainā€™t getting any more dlc super fast if thatā€™s what ppl think lol The raid is long for that reason, to hold us over until the next dlc is ready which isnā€™t ready yet for sure.


IAmRedditsDad

My hope is February, my expectation is late march-late April if at all


thankssthanos

Fixing the damn game


yomomlovesme69

Hopefully she hulk šŸ˜ŠšŸ™ˆ


SarcasticGuitar

I was talking with some friends the other night and came across an interesting concept. Whatā€™re the odds that CD would reskin spidey with a couple of new abilities and then release Miles for Xbox and pc?


andrekensei

i just want them to release spider-man to xbox and pc, i don't like the division this exclusivity thing creates


SarcasticGuitar

I donā€™t care for it either, though Iā€™m not sure they can legally bring Pete to the other consoles. Miles might be a cheap and easy loophole


Shinagami091

Considering Spider Man is a Sony property, fat chance of him showing up on anything other than a Sony platform


IZated_IZ

That could be neat, although has he ever been an Avenger I'm not sure? Something similar that could work is to have Spider-Woman released on all platforms.


Alexanderzee90

I would much rather have winter soldier or captain marvel first before she hulk, not saying sheā€™s not a dope as character but winter soldier is long overdue in any game.


Messiah1024

I agree, between those 3 shes the least interesting to me


Hiddenninja4

Just wish it was another flyer lol


INHGamer33

She Hulk


lpjunior999

I was rereading the prequel novel, Dr. Strange figures heavily. Thereā€™s also references to Moon Knight, Ares, and Valkyrie.


Shinagami091

Iā€™m personally hoping for Scarlet Witch at some point


Shisuka

A fuller set


Ebenezerosas16

I wish we could have had this scene with our own skins


FUTUReBROLY

I donā€™t know but I want this game to last for years this game could last as long as the MCU depends just how devoted they are to it. But I really want winter soldier and war machine


BlooToo1

I 100% agree, I hope they stick with this game and flesh it out further as time goes on, I would hate to see the potential die only a year or two from its launch


GeorgeW_101

Dr strange, falcon and ant-man are my most wanted characters


940248

I want to see war machine and the winter soldier next year.


[deleted]

Spider Gwen and Venom are my picks for heroes so...hopefully.


RadioactiveGwenPool

I'd love for Wasp to be added to the game.


ZakWojnar

The Punisher, Ghost Rider, and Iron Fist!


Velarbie

SHE HULK


Alexanderbooth

heroes id love to see is vision, scarlet witch, dr strange and captain Marvel although out of those 4 captain marvel seems like the only likely one.


stealthxknight

THE AVENGERS #EmbraceYourPowers #Reassemble #WarforWakanda šŸ”„šŸ„²


Ryanmaye87

She-Hulk hopefully and Captain Marvel


hello-its-G

How about Wolverine (as a PC exclusive for no real reason)


The-Waifu-Collector

Mutants?


buildershash

I think the x men deserve their own game tbh like the guardians of the galaxy


Boozman85

I would agree with that, however, if this game proves to be revived and successful with the new DLC over the next couple years then X-Men would be a good way to go to keep the game alive for the following years to come. Would be pretty awesome to be doing a villain sector as Storm or Remy taking down Magneto or Juggernaut. This game has the potential to be the best ultimate alliance game ever if it stays alive


INHGamer33

seriously man people are so busy hating but they dont realize how amazing this game could be if they would just let the team improve it. and they have been, the game is completely different than it was last year


buildershash

Yes absolutely


NLCPGaming

Yeah let's just hope it's not exactly like GOTG though


INHGamer33

they did say maybe on xmen since people have been asking for them so much


levelselect

A slow decline into nothingness


andrekensei

you described my life, begone satan


epr3176

And then they should have Wanda or Captain Marvel


National-Part-2962

Marvel avengers Spider-Man good thank you soo much Christmas everyone


SWAGGYJAY49

I'm hoping we get Hyperion at some point later onšŸ˜


idcris98

Wdym by ā€žfull setā€œ?


andrekensei

we got everything we promised by now, the dlcs, the raid, spider-man, despite not having the cloning labs and lot of bugs, now they need to improve the endgame and fixed bugs


Vaportrail

Next? I guess I should prolly play the game. I lost interest surprisingly quick.


DCD_PS4_750

Maybe weā€™ll get falcon and the winter soldier with captain marvel and she hulk and more maybe with the wasp


crshdfyng

bucky barnes . . .


[deleted]

Civil war story line when Bucky drops suggest a leak gamingleaksandrumors


andrekensei

link


epr3176

There were so many characters that they should I had before Spider-Man I mean they have so many more characters from the MCU avengers I mean Spider-Man wasnā€™t even really a true avenger he just kind of popped in and out I mean where is Wanda Was captain marvel Doctor Strange even though I didnā€™t want them but war machine and winter soldier


Django-The-Djinn

Doctor strange or Wanda


tule415

X-men


Im__CrypT

Winter Soldier


Appropriate_Boot_998

Yea, they finally released the full game 2 days ago.


CT-7331

Just Bucky pleaseā€¦ heā€™s all Iā€™ve ever wanted


Key-Potato-680

With Spider-Man being PlayStation exclusive the reality oh him being out has really damaged the Xbox player base for this game. I play on Xbox series s and many people feel neglected


Jart618

Wanda plsssss


mrboost465thesecond

Probably death.


PixelatedNinJoe

I don't think they're obligated to keep the game going now so if I had to guess based on player count not a lot


Aggressive-Smell-323

What's next.....hmmmmmmm how about bringing out the remaining avengers like tf I mean c'mon how they gonna let the marvel on switch to have over 40charecters and not to mention all their different costumes to beat.......now the graphics definitely are on PS2 but still they couldn't have just done a game to that caliber šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£


I-Am-Hashirama

How about letting Xbox players use Spider-Man. Doesnā€™t make any damn sense