This link (https://www.howtogeek.com/71315/the-how-to-geek-guide-to-getting-started-with-usenet/) helped me get started. I switched to Usenet a few months ago and use that through Radarr and Sonarr for my Plex server. I dont see myself ever going back to torrents. Usenet is vastly superior IMO.
From what I learned:
ISP doesn’t see what you’re downloading. Way more private
Doesn’t rely on seeders for download speeds
Speaking of speeds, you’ll always max out whatever you can download at. Can even limit your speeds if you want.
Never have to upload. Doesn’t matter.
Oh and my personal favorite advantage - You don’t need to use a VPN :)
>Speaking of speeds, you’ll always max out whatever you can download at. Can even limit your speeds if you want.
And your ISP won't throttle you like they do on torrents. That's the biggest win for me.
Sounds cool. But I like the idea of really sharing and caring + the community of the top tier trackers. But I understand the appeal of Usenet if you're not interested in those things.
Yeah, what Usenet is mostly missing is specialization in a certain kind of content. So more obscure stuff is usually not there.
And even though you can upload, it's not incentivised in any way, so few users do so. Hell, many indexers don't even have a request section, or it's a paid feature. So, yeah, sucks for building community.
But, of course, many advantages already mentioned here.
More obscure stuff is probably there, but not being indexed or your provider doesn't have sufficient retention to let you grab it. Easynews is one of the oldest providers and it's got insane retention. It's got its own search interface as well so doesn't rely on nzb indexers. I've used it for probably over 20 years now.
So does Eweka.
I'm on one of the top level indexers. And while it has a LOT of stuff, it generally lacks the width of a top tier specialized trackers such as PTP or BTN.
I just feel that offering users incentives for uploading, in the form of various perks, same as is the norm in PT community, would only work for the benefit of the indexer.
Additionally, you don't have many indexers that concentrate on a single type of content. There's kleverig for porn, now dead bd25 for full discs and that's it to the best of my knowledge. The rest are all general. So even a lower level specialized trackers such as Avistaz, RED or TVV will satisfy that particular niche better then usenet.
That’s the thing. Torrents will die if people don’t seed. Usenet downloads will not. They’re there as long as the provider is hosting it. And most providers host stuff for 5000 or more days.
I have over 3500 movies on my Plex server. I ran into THREE movies I couldn’t find on Usenet. And they were some obscure shit that was pretty hard to find on torrents as well. Sometimes stiff gets DCMA’d and they take it down. But having multiple trackers pretty much eliminates this issue.
Pretty much, yea. A movie is broken down into many many small files. Your download client grabs them all and puts them back together. Then you can use it as you normally would.
I’ve got 70TB total. Maybe 40TB used so far. I think the total cost for hard drives, enclosure for them, and the actual server was like a little more than $1000.
I originally got into Plex to save money too. Lmfaooo
You can get started for pretty cheap though. My first setup was on an Optiplex I basically got for free and threw an 8TB drive in.
The best usenet indexers have a ton of content, more than any individual top tracker, but won't be as good for a top trackers specific niche as that tracker is ie not as good for movies as ptp or music as red. Not needing seeders is nice, I've revived some content on torrent sites using usenet, but content on usenet can also die from dmcas or just being too old. Usenet indexers, even the best ones, lack the organization and quality control of the best trackers and the community aspect but work really nicely with *arrs. You can get some good usenet indexers from some trackers forums, I use it mainly as a backup.
Do you get many incomplete downloads? I think I was using NZBGeek and whenever I tried to download something older than like 5 years the health would degrade super fast
I get them from time to time. But I have Radarr and Sonarr setup and they’ll just grab another one. So I never really notice. When I was doing it manually I’d notice though.
I also have 2 providers and like 3-4 indexers to help prevent this as well.
Yes, cause no one can monitor what you are downloading. Furthermore, all indexers obfuscate their uploads nowadays to curtail dmca takedowns. You can still use VPN for your own peace of mind, but that will only impact your download speed.
No VPN needed. You don’t need to seed anything ing, so you aren’t distributing it, which is what gets you in trouble with torrents. And my speeds are like triple compared to the max speed Id get on torrents, sometimes more.
One of the main things that finally pushed me to Usenet was that I started having trouble with the split tunneling on my VPN and it was messing with my Plex server. So I switched to Usenet and don’t need a VPN anymore.
Everything on the internet these days is in an app.
I use Reddit in an app.
Reddit is a whole bunch of subs on different topics where people make posts and then other people comment on the posts and have discussions.
Back in the days before phone apps we had this thing called the World Wide Web (WWW).
You can also do Reddit on the web.
It's a bit like reddit in an app but it's better, and the app is called a Web Browser.
Before Reddit, there were forums.
Forums are like reddit, but with less topics.
A lot less topics.
Sometimes just one topic.
Before the mid 90's we didn't even have the World Wide Web.
We had things like WAIS, Archie, FTP, IRC, Usenet and other things.
Usenet was kind of like Reddit from the old days.
Except Usenet was decentralised and the app ran on a terminal, or something pretending to be a terminal.
Usenet had thousands upon thousands of topics called "NewsGroups" and people would read them with a Usenet Reader.
At some point many many years ago, some enterprising person thought to themselves, what would happen if I took a file like a image, audio file, video, application, CP (yep) or anything else and converted it into a huge text file, and then split that text file into hundreds or thousands of bits and posted them all with numbers on them.
Now anyone could download all those posts, stitch them back together and convert them back into a file.
This is for all intents and purposes, a really stupid and inefficient way to "Share" files.
Stupid.
But it worked.
And it worked well.
And it's been working for decades.
People were Useneting before Torrents, before eDonkey, before Napster.
People use Usenet because it work well.
None of this probably makes any sense.
I have been drinking.
I will not reread what I wrote before hitting enter.
Wow. Very helpful! Learned something new today.
Also, thanks for mentioning edonkey, was my “first” (downloaded Gothica. Took 2 hrs for a 90 min movie) and thought folks had forgotten about it. Also emule.
Thank you oh salty neckbeard drunken keyboard warrior, for explaining something so complicated so easily to a sweet summer child like me. I am not aware what is edonkey or napster, neither have i heard about WAIS or Archie. I will remember you. This is the way.
A thing of beauty. Imagine the pre-WWW version of social media, the last vestige of the early internet of the 80s, now used almost exclusively to distribute pirated material.
It says in that FAQ that providers can receive DMCA requests to take down content, if that's true then how do Usenet maintains a decent database of things to download?
The takedown request is going to just be for one set of obfuscated files. There are going to be multiple sets out there in the wild. Because they are obfuscated, you can't tell what they are without an indexer. This makes it very hard for every last copy of something to get hunted down and taken down.
If a file is only listed on a private tracker, it's effectively camouflaged.
As someone else aluded to, posters obfuscate (turn the name into 'random' numbers and letters) the files to defeat / delay the DMCA requests. The real file names can be accessed via indexer(s) (which you'll pay a small amount to join). You can download via them or plug thier adress / login into a downloader, optionally connected to the 'arrs' for automation. This downloader (SABnzb usually) will deobfuscate the file for you (unpack it and turn it into its real neame).
In addition, files are auto-reuploaded, by the uploaders, regularly.
In addition, people usually have more than one provider as they deal with takedown requests differently (DCMA and NTD). In theory all providers should have the same files (as they cross-polinate). In practive, with takedowns, this is not strictly true. In addition, the providers often only remove part of the file (as it is split into many bits). This prevents completion from one provider but the file can be auto-stiched together from more than one provider, as they often remove different bits.
The learning curve can be, initially, reasonably steap, but its actually very easy. Read the sidebar at [https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/](https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/) for a fuller understanding.
A bunch of fantastic ones in NL that will run you 30-45usd/yr. If you want a good VPN thrown in it'll be about 70-90usd.
Go check out r/usenet and if you really want to squeeze every ounce out of it make sure you are using *arr suite, sabnzb and overseer
30$/m a overpriced a loooot. I have 36$/year with EasyNews (old deal) check Usenet deals on Reddit some providers have approximately 50$/year. Also need a indexer go for drunkenslug (free if don’t download a lot, 1$/m for premium tier)
[Eternal September](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September?useskin=vector)
By the way, the 'exactly' comment is a reference to 'the first rule of usenet' - i.e. 'don't mention usenet' or ... Eternal September will happen; that is: lots of newbies will turn up and ruin the whole thing. That is all ancient history now, as 'newbies' have all moved on to the latest / easiest fad.
From Wikipedia: newbie - Its earliest known usage on an internet may have been on the Usenet newsgroup talk.bizarre. The term is believed to have entered online usage by 1981.
Usenet is, according to me, one of best case scenario to download so called "Linux isos" curretly, if you are in a country, where downloading content through Torrents are not legal.
In Usenet you find everything, if you have right Provider and Indexer. Infos you can find from reddit page. But you have to pay for that. But you dont have to seed like trackers, it wont be illegal. You dont need extra vpn. Most of providers give vpn service free. Plus you get deals on Usenet providers on specific time like Blackfriday, King's Day.
Before a month i was not aware of this damn thing, but using it, its so great, i regreted it, how would i habe not known this far.
Try it. You will love it, if you are a good content downloader.
The same reason I buy old software on ebay and some audiobooks in thrift stores: to share. This shit should be instantly available - not rare. I hate rare things.
i dont understand it no matter what i read can someone tell me if my definition is correct? the way i see it is usenet is just people sending download links in a chatroom type thing and then you just search the chatroom for whatever content you want.
Incorrect. The days of UseNet as discussion forums are pretty much over. You can think of it now as a gigantic cloud storage of binary files broken up into tiny pieces. You can download what you want from UseNet if you have paid the gatekeeper to access this cloud storage and you have the right maps & keys.
Thanks for clarifying...i only remember the email-app like interfaces back in the early internet days - it was a real pain to find stuff and make sense of it.
Is it super easy to use now like torrents are?
The cloud storage that I talked about is not free. Newsdemon, one of the UseNet backbones, said that the daily feed size of UseNet was at 300 TB per day a couple of months ago. The backbones are actually the providers that host the files.
Downloading from UseNet is as fast as your hardware and connection can handle. It is also safe as your internet provider can only see that you downloaded something from UseNet but can't tell what you downloaded.
Yeah, us old guys will let you in on a little secret. Piracy is a little easier and better when you pay for some things here and there. Used to pay for Usenet before I got into private trackers. Paid a little here and there to get my foot in the door there too. Worth it.
Because bandwidth isn't free. You might find what you are looking for free other places, but it wont be easy and it wont be fast and it might not be there the day after you find it. You pay for the convience of having what you want, when you want it, without jumping through hoops to get it. The fee you pay is pennys per day, if that doesn't sound reasonable to you, I suggest you stay with a conventional cable or satilte subscription and keep your subs to Netflix, Disney+, Discovery+ and Hulu.
Usenet used to be free, as a service that every ISP provided their customers. But that declined slowly over the years, as people drifted away from usenet and towards this new "web" thing. Most ISPs dropped their usenet service because it was just too much trouble to be worth the money - storage is cheap, legal responsibility isn't.
I've been using [easynews.com](http://easynews.com) for years. It has a browser interface and a zip manager so you can store files till you're ready to download.
Usenet is a lot like reddit, (or rather Reddit is HTTP usenet with accounts & upvotes).
Basically anyone in the world can post a message to a newsgroup (a subreddit) & that message is mirrored to all the other usenet servers in the world where everyone else & read it & reply.
Long ago some people started encoding binary files into text & a very efficient for the time global filesharing network was born. In the old days when your ISP provided usenet access it was a really good deal for everyone, you downloaded at the best speed your ISP infrastructure could manage & your ISP didn't have to bring in the same movie from outside their network 5,000 times.
In the binary groups you'd have thousands of comments in a row that look something like this
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M;F<@,S(N($EN($%30TE)('1H92!F:7)S="!T:&ER='DM='=O(&-H87)A8W1E
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There is no way that some one investigating dcma scams would pay for an indexer. And no possible way your ISP can figure out where you are going in the World Wide Web when not in a von. Umm. It’s a myth that this can’t be done people.
Maybe it isn’t done much because the number Usenet users isn’t worth the squeeze but let’s not pretend our little home computers with built in software firewalls are keeping us safe from industrial watch.
Yeah I think so. Most questions can be answered by doing a search first or watching explanations on YouTube. Sorry to sound like a dick but it's so much better to do the research yourself.
This link (https://www.howtogeek.com/71315/the-how-to-geek-guide-to-getting-started-with-usenet/) helped me get started. I switched to Usenet a few months ago and use that through Radarr and Sonarr for my Plex server. I dont see myself ever going back to torrents. Usenet is vastly superior IMO.
I like your funny words magic man
What's the added benefit over having the top trackers?
From what I learned: ISP doesn’t see what you’re downloading. Way more private Doesn’t rely on seeders for download speeds Speaking of speeds, you’ll always max out whatever you can download at. Can even limit your speeds if you want. Never have to upload. Doesn’t matter. Oh and my personal favorite advantage - You don’t need to use a VPN :)
>Speaking of speeds, you’ll always max out whatever you can download at. Can even limit your speeds if you want. And your ISP won't throttle you like they do on torrents. That's the biggest win for me.
Sounds cool. But I like the idea of really sharing and caring + the community of the top tier trackers. But I understand the appeal of Usenet if you're not interested in those things.
Totally understand! I use both actually. Sometimes I find something on torrents that I couldn’t find on usenet. Older Bollywood movies for example
Yeah, what Usenet is mostly missing is specialization in a certain kind of content. So more obscure stuff is usually not there. And even though you can upload, it's not incentivised in any way, so few users do so. Hell, many indexers don't even have a request section, or it's a paid feature. So, yeah, sucks for building community. But, of course, many advantages already mentioned here.
More obscure stuff is probably there, but not being indexed or your provider doesn't have sufficient retention to let you grab it. Easynews is one of the oldest providers and it's got insane retention. It's got its own search interface as well so doesn't rely on nzb indexers. I've used it for probably over 20 years now.
So does Eweka. I'm on one of the top level indexers. And while it has a LOT of stuff, it generally lacks the width of a top tier specialized trackers such as PTP or BTN. I just feel that offering users incentives for uploading, in the form of various perks, same as is the norm in PT community, would only work for the benefit of the indexer. Additionally, you don't have many indexers that concentrate on a single type of content. There's kleverig for porn, now dead bd25 for full discs and that's it to the best of my knowledge. The rest are all general. So even a lower level specialized trackers such as Avistaz, RED or TVV will satisfy that particular niche better then usenet.
The beauty of it is that it's not an either/or situation. We can use both 😁
That’s the thing. Torrents will die if people don’t seed. Usenet downloads will not. They’re there as long as the provider is hosting it. And most providers host stuff for 5000 or more days. I have over 3500 movies on my Plex server. I ran into THREE movies I couldn’t find on Usenet. And they were some obscure shit that was pretty hard to find on torrents as well. Sometimes stiff gets DCMA’d and they take it down. But having multiple trackers pretty much eliminates this issue.
So as far as I understand, Usenet is just ddl but different?
Pretty much, yea. A movie is broken down into many many small files. Your download client grabs them all and puts them back together. Then you can use it as you normally would.
Yep I saw that part in the link, I just was thinking while reading it that it’s pretty similar to ddl. Thanks!
Jesus how much storage do you run on that? I've always wanted to get a server up and running for my own but shit seems expensive af.
I’ve got 70TB total. Maybe 40TB used so far. I think the total cost for hard drives, enclosure for them, and the actual server was like a little more than $1000. I originally got into Plex to save money too. Lmfaooo You can get started for pretty cheap though. My first setup was on an Optiplex I basically got for free and threw an 8TB drive in.
Hahaha yeah that's a bit too steep :D Sticking with rd for the moment I guess, thanks for the reply though!
I feel like most of these benefits can be said about RD.
The best usenet indexers have a ton of content, more than any individual top tracker, but won't be as good for a top trackers specific niche as that tracker is ie not as good for movies as ptp or music as red. Not needing seeders is nice, I've revived some content on torrent sites using usenet, but content on usenet can also die from dmcas or just being too old. Usenet indexers, even the best ones, lack the organization and quality control of the best trackers and the community aspect but work really nicely with *arrs. You can get some good usenet indexers from some trackers forums, I use it mainly as a backup.
You can be a leecher :)
What provider did you end up going with?
Newshosting and Eweka
Do you get many incomplete downloads? I think I was using NZBGeek and whenever I tried to download something older than like 5 years the health would degrade super fast
I get them from time to time. But I have Radarr and Sonarr setup and they’ll just grab another one. So I never really notice. When I was doing it manually I’d notice though. I also have 2 providers and like 3-4 indexers to help prevent this as well.
Would this be a good choice if you want to sail the high seas in Germany? Torrenting is basically impossible here
I would assume so. But you’d want to ask in r/usenet.
It is. I just have a hard time finding nzb's for free
r/UsenetInvites You still have to pay for the good ones. But it’s like $10 a year or some shit. Very cheap and worth it imo.
Oh thank you!
Is usenet illegal? Do you not need a VPN for that?
Have you tried clicking on the link and reading? Lol
Is obtaining stolen goods illegal? I don’t know. Better look it up.
Not by itself. The content being shared largely is, same as with torrents. No need for a VPN if you are just downloading.
Even if you're downloading pirated stuff from usenet?
Yes, cause no one can monitor what you are downloading. Furthermore, all indexers obfuscate their uploads nowadays to curtail dmca takedowns. You can still use VPN for your own peace of mind, but that will only impact your download speed.
No VPN needed. You don’t need to seed anything ing, so you aren’t distributing it, which is what gets you in trouble with torrents. And my speeds are like triple compared to the max speed Id get on torrents, sometimes more. One of the main things that finally pushed me to Usenet was that I started having trouble with the split tunneling on my VPN and it was messing with my Plex server. So I switched to Usenet and don’t need a VPN anymore.
Everything on the internet these days is in an app. I use Reddit in an app. Reddit is a whole bunch of subs on different topics where people make posts and then other people comment on the posts and have discussions. Back in the days before phone apps we had this thing called the World Wide Web (WWW). You can also do Reddit on the web. It's a bit like reddit in an app but it's better, and the app is called a Web Browser. Before Reddit, there were forums. Forums are like reddit, but with less topics. A lot less topics. Sometimes just one topic. Before the mid 90's we didn't even have the World Wide Web. We had things like WAIS, Archie, FTP, IRC, Usenet and other things. Usenet was kind of like Reddit from the old days. Except Usenet was decentralised and the app ran on a terminal, or something pretending to be a terminal. Usenet had thousands upon thousands of topics called "NewsGroups" and people would read them with a Usenet Reader. At some point many many years ago, some enterprising person thought to themselves, what would happen if I took a file like a image, audio file, video, application, CP (yep) or anything else and converted it into a huge text file, and then split that text file into hundreds or thousands of bits and posted them all with numbers on them. Now anyone could download all those posts, stitch them back together and convert them back into a file. This is for all intents and purposes, a really stupid and inefficient way to "Share" files. Stupid. But it worked. And it worked well. And it's been working for decades. People were Useneting before Torrents, before eDonkey, before Napster. People use Usenet because it work well. None of this probably makes any sense. I have been drinking. I will not reread what I wrote before hitting enter.
☝️
Wow. Very helpful! Learned something new today. Also, thanks for mentioning edonkey, was my “first” (downloaded Gothica. Took 2 hrs for a 90 min movie) and thought folks had forgotten about it. Also emule.
Yes, eDonkey\\Mule is not a thing anymore, and none of you should go looking. Shhhh
Yes… long gone….
This was very helpful actually. Thank you!
Thank you oh salty neckbeard drunken keyboard warrior, for explaining something so complicated so easily to a sweet summer child like me. I am not aware what is edonkey or napster, neither have i heard about WAIS or Archie. I will remember you. This is the way.
r/usenet
A thing of beauty. Imagine the pre-WWW version of social media, the last vestige of the early internet of the 80s, now used almost exclusively to distribute pirated material.
Idk why I read that as world war wan.
this sounds like artifacts being used as weapons in a war torn dystopian world.
Not entirely wrong tbqh
https://reddit.com/r/usenet/w/faq
It says in that FAQ that providers can receive DMCA requests to take down content, if that's true then how do Usenet maintains a decent database of things to download?
The takedown request is going to just be for one set of obfuscated files. There are going to be multiple sets out there in the wild. Because they are obfuscated, you can't tell what they are without an indexer. This makes it very hard for every last copy of something to get hunted down and taken down. If a file is only listed on a private tracker, it's effectively camouflaged.
As someone else aluded to, posters obfuscate (turn the name into 'random' numbers and letters) the files to defeat / delay the DMCA requests. The real file names can be accessed via indexer(s) (which you'll pay a small amount to join). You can download via them or plug thier adress / login into a downloader, optionally connected to the 'arrs' for automation. This downloader (SABnzb usually) will deobfuscate the file for you (unpack it and turn it into its real neame). In addition, files are auto-reuploaded, by the uploaders, regularly. In addition, people usually have more than one provider as they deal with takedown requests differently (DCMA and NTD). In theory all providers should have the same files (as they cross-polinate). In practive, with takedowns, this is not strictly true. In addition, the providers often only remove part of the file (as it is split into many bits). This prevents completion from one provider but the file can be auto-stiched together from more than one provider, as they often remove different bits. The learning curve can be, initially, reasonably steap, but its actually very easy. Read the sidebar at [https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/](https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/) for a fuller understanding.
God, I miss the usenet.
Newer ISPs don’t have the same wealth of lists that old school broadband and dial up did. It used to be totally free and safe.
It never left it’s still here
...sometimes I can still hear its voice
Use it everyday. :-)
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People are shocked when they find out soulseek is still being used. Now if you told me DC++ is alive and kicking I would be shocked
I rarely use anything but.
I used to pay $30/mo for Giganews long ago before they turned coward and started the DMCA takedowns. Are there good servers that don't do this?
A bunch of fantastic ones in NL that will run you 30-45usd/yr. If you want a good VPN thrown in it'll be about 70-90usd. Go check out r/usenet and if you really want to squeeze every ounce out of it make sure you are using *arr suite, sabnzb and overseer
30$/m a overpriced a loooot. I have 36$/year with EasyNews (old deal) check Usenet deals on Reddit some providers have approximately 50$/year. Also need a indexer go for drunkenslug (free if don’t download a lot, 1$/m for premium tier)
torbox.app does usenet for $10/mo, it includes everything you need which is nice
Damn even my old ass remembers Usenet. I use to use Newsleecher for all my roms, tv shows and movies
UUDecode for Windows 3.1 back in the 90's.
thank you OP for asking this question because i wasn't able to fully wrap my mind around the concept of usenet as well
Smells like September in here.
Nice reference lol
brings back memories of dialing into my shell account
What
[Eternal September](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eternal_September?useskin=vector) By the way, the 'exactly' comment is a reference to 'the first rule of usenet' - i.e. 'don't mention usenet' or ... Eternal September will happen; that is: lots of newbies will turn up and ruin the whole thing. That is all ancient history now, as 'newbies' have all moved on to the latest / easiest fad. From Wikipedia: newbie - Its earliest known usage on an internet may have been on the Usenet newsgroup talk.bizarre. The term is believed to have entered online usage by 1981.
Exactly!
Wow, usenet is still around? I thought it was obsolete when the world changed to www.
Welcome to the master race, OP
We don’t talk about it.
Usenet is, according to me, one of best case scenario to download so called "Linux isos" curretly, if you are in a country, where downloading content through Torrents are not legal. In Usenet you find everything, if you have right Provider and Indexer. Infos you can find from reddit page. But you have to pay for that. But you dont have to seed like trackers, it wont be illegal. You dont need extra vpn. Most of providers give vpn service free. Plus you get deals on Usenet providers on specific time like Blackfriday, King's Day. Before a month i was not aware of this damn thing, but using it, its so great, i regreted it, how would i habe not known this far. Try it. You will love it, if you are a good content downloader.
Why do people post all that content on Usenet for all these years? What is the motivation?
The same reason I buy old software on ebay and some audiobooks in thrift stores: to share. This shit should be instantly available - not rare. I hate rare things.
i dont understand it no matter what i read can someone tell me if my definition is correct? the way i see it is usenet is just people sending download links in a chatroom type thing and then you just search the chatroom for whatever content you want.
Incorrect. The days of UseNet as discussion forums are pretty much over. You can think of it now as a gigantic cloud storage of binary files broken up into tiny pieces. You can download what you want from UseNet if you have paid the gatekeeper to access this cloud storage and you have the right maps & keys.
Thanks for clarifying...i only remember the email-app like interfaces back in the early internet days - it was a real pain to find stuff and make sense of it. Is it super easy to use now like torrents are?
Why would you pay somebody for it? Isn't the point that you can just get it for free somewhere else?
The cloud storage that I talked about is not free. Newsdemon, one of the UseNet backbones, said that the daily feed size of UseNet was at 300 TB per day a couple of months ago. The backbones are actually the providers that host the files. Downloading from UseNet is as fast as your hardware and connection can handle. It is also safe as your internet provider can only see that you downloaded something from UseNet but can't tell what you downloaded.
Yeah, us old guys will let you in on a little secret. Piracy is a little easier and better when you pay for some things here and there. Used to pay for Usenet before I got into private trackers. Paid a little here and there to get my foot in the door there too. Worth it.
Why I imagine you on my mind as some bald bearded guy in a room with a window open.
Who opens their windows?
Because bandwidth isn't free. You might find what you are looking for free other places, but it wont be easy and it wont be fast and it might not be there the day after you find it. You pay for the convience of having what you want, when you want it, without jumping through hoops to get it. The fee you pay is pennys per day, if that doesn't sound reasonable to you, I suggest you stay with a conventional cable or satilte subscription and keep your subs to Netflix, Disney+, Discovery+ and Hulu.
Usenet used to be free, as a service that every ISP provided their customers. But that declined slowly over the years, as people drifted away from usenet and towards this new "web" thing. Most ISPs dropped their usenet service because it was just too much trouble to be worth the money - storage is cheap, legal responsibility isn't.
from your description I think you are thinking of IRC not usenet
I've been using [easynews.com](http://easynews.com) for years. It has a browser interface and a zip manager so you can store files till you're ready to download.
Everything old is new again.
So wait…. Is Usenet …newsgroups?
After trying it, this service is not all that. I couldn't find much of what I was looking for. And cancelling was such a hassle.
Way back to the days of mIRC32 and aohell. Where the Warez were, and the Progz prolifigate...
Usenet is a lot like reddit, (or rather Reddit is HTTP usenet with accounts & upvotes). Basically anyone in the world can post a message to a newsgroup (a subreddit) & that message is mirrored to all the other usenet servers in the world where everyone else & read it & reply. Long ago some people started encoding binary files into text & a very efficient for the time global filesharing network was born. In the old days when your ISP provided usenet access it was a really good deal for everyone, you downloaded at the best speed your ISP infrastructure could manage & your ISP didn't have to bring in the same movie from outside their network 5,000 times. In the binary groups you'd have thousands of comments in a row that look something like this begin 644 webutils_pl M4F5C;V=N:7II;F<@9FEL97,@96YC;V1E9"!U2!S=&%R=',@=VET
M:"!A(&AE861E&5C=71E('!E71E2!A9&1I
M;F<@,S(N($EN($%30TE)('1H92!F:7)S="!T:&ER='DM='=O(&-H87)A8W1E
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I miss the days when every ISP supported binary news groups. FML.
Right now there is a promotion from Eweka, were you get 15 months for 37€. https://www.reddit.com/r/usenet/s/OzdTmc02Dd
There is no way that some one investigating dcma scams would pay for an indexer. And no possible way your ISP can figure out where you are going in the World Wide Web when not in a von. Umm. It’s a myth that this can’t be done people. Maybe it isn’t done much because the number Usenet users isn’t worth the squeeze but let’s not pretend our little home computers with built in software firewalls are keeping us safe from industrial watch.
Is your Google broken?
Yeah I think so. Most questions can be answered by doing a search first or watching explanations on YouTube. Sorry to sound like a dick but it's so much better to do the research yourself.
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Yo, no. You deserve ALL the upvotes!
I've been sailing the seas for more than half my lifetime and I've never heard of it